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SarahTime
01-12-2013, 04:16 PM
There are cheap girls of all nationalities!! I have seen American girls (and other nationalities) on MFC being incredibly cheap! I wish they would stop. Does anyone want to write and post a "memo" or something deemed tasteful and non-offensive that we can say to the cheap girls?! LOL I'm only gonna hold my tongue for so long and when/if I say something, it probably won't be nice! Maybe add a link to SW so they can learn more and stop fucking it all up? Any of our more eloquent, experienced ladies want to write something? I'm TOTALLY SERIOUS about this...
Although I would love to see girls quit being cheap, I don't think saying anything to them would matter. Girls are going to charge what they want to charge, what they think works for them. I'll admit, I even do 5 minute $1 shows on rare occasions and if you do it right, it can help. But doing it as the norm... hurts us all. But still.... it won't matter if someone said something to them, unfortunately.
RaineyLane
01-12-2013, 04:34 PM
[QUOTE=SarahTime;2442909]Although I would love to see girls quit being cheap, I don't think saying anything to them would matter. Girls are going to charge what they want to charge, what they think works for them. I'll admit, I even do 5 minute $1 shows on rare occasions and if you do it right, it can help. But doing it as the norm... hurts us all. But still.... it won't matter if someone said something to them, unfortunately.[/QUOTE
I'm not usually on SM often, but an occasional cheap GOLD show is WAY different than girls on MFC furiously masturbating for FREE and only asking for 50-200 tokens to SQUIRT! That's the kind of stuff I'm talking about. And that's ALL these girls are doing! They are butt naked, legs spread, with a toy (or in one case, a cucumber) going at it with full rooms but they weren't getting tipped (DUH) just giving a FREE FUCKING SHOW. One girl couldn't hold her squirt in and just let it all out for free! I honestly LOL'd when that happened and wish I could remember the jokes that guys were making in her room. SMH
TheBrownFox
01-12-2013, 05:42 PM
Does anyone want to write and post a "memo" or something deemed tasteful and non-offensive that we can say to the cheap girls?! LOL Maybe add a link to SW so they can learn more and stop fucking it all up?
I'm not gonna tell another cam girl what to charge unless she asks me for my opinion or for advice. I did send an MFC model a message (a friendly MFC Mail) once about using PayPal. It showed me that she read my message, but she didn't message me back to say thanks or anything. *shrugs shoulders* Oh well...
If you insist on confronting a cam girl about "being too cheap," (which I wouldn't recommend) please be sure to do it via MFC Mail or SM messaging. To give a cam girl advice (that she didn't ask for) in the middle of her public chat would be rude. But I'm sure that's NOT what you're planning on doing, right? And if you're going to tell her about StripperWeb, PLEASE don't mention SW in the public chat where the guys are.
temptingmodel
01-12-2013, 06:53 PM
IMO that's not a good idea. (sending emails)
Models know what they are doing and MOST know how to hustle it.
I do cheap gold and no shame in my game.
Its easy to put in the instant text what a model will start the show at with a minimum. If the minimum is not met, no show. The men will throw gold. (regulars help and tbh I have had more 1st time custis throw out 50 or 100)
I have a max and a minimum. They are well aware.
About MFC girls... I see a lot of hate about open masturbation and giving away things etc etc.. they make bank, if they know their hustle. MFC is a TRUE hustle site.
minniesoporno
01-12-2013, 07:02 PM
my rate is the highest streamate will allow. I am not lowering it It has paid off a little I've noticed that if I get someone for at least 2 minutes I am ranking in at least $4. with the crap these idiots say to me and what I have to put up with the higher rate is way beneficial some come in my room complain my rate is too high but I really don't care what they have to say they are on a porn website begging for ass.
temptingmodel
01-12-2013, 07:27 PM
MFC? U have to hustle if so
Okay, I'm new to cam modeling so I am trying to figure out how to set up prices. I get .05 cents per tip & idk on the rest still trying to figure that stuff out. Can someone help me so I can make money?!
RaineyLane
01-12-2013, 08:00 PM
I'm not gonna tell another cam girl what to charge unless she asks me for my opinion or for advice. I did send an MFC model a message (a friendly MFC Mail) once about using PayPal. It showed me that she read my message, but she didn't message me back to say thanks or anything. *shrugs shoulders* Oh well...
If you insist on confronting a cam girl about "being too cheap," (which I wouldn't recommend) please be sure to do it via MFC Mail or SM messaging. To give a cam girl advice (that she didn't ask for) in the middle of her public chat would be rude. But I'm sure that's NOT what you're planning on doing, right? And if you're going to tell her about StripperWeb, PLEASE don't mention SW in the public chat where the guys are.
I would never say anything in public chat for sure! About giving advice or SW ;)
RaineyLane
01-12-2013, 08:04 PM
IMO that's not a good idea. (sending emails)
Models know what they are doing and MOST know how to hustle it.
I do cheap gold and no shame in my game.
Its easy to put in the instant text what a model will start the show at with a minimum. If the minimum is not met, no show. The men will throw gold. (regulars help and tbh I have had more 1st time custis throw out 50 or 100)
I have a max and a minimum. They are well aware.
About MFC girls... I see a lot of hate about open masturbation and giving away things etc etc.. they make bank, if they know their hustle. MFC is a TRUE hustle site.
The squirt chick I wanted to message wasn't making anything to furiously fuck herself to the point she squirted uncontrollably!! She was only charging 50 tokens for the squirt in the first place... that she gave away for FREE in public. This is the model I wanted to PM specifically. She was failing miserably and it was really SAD! :(
Marķa Bala
01-12-2013, 09:28 PM
Totally against low prices.
To be "pretty" for them costs you money, your sexy clothes, make up, etc
To have the necessary equipment: PC, lights, a proper room, a good internet connection, costs you money.
Your precious time costs a lot of money and most of this: we are totally exposed. Any kind of sex job means risks: social rejection, dangerous people outside thinking you are of their own property...among others.
That's why it has to be well paid. Less than 5 per minute is shit in webcam.
LolaBohemia
01-14-2013, 04:54 AM
After 2.5 years of camming, I feel I'm finally getting what I am worth and it was some misdirection that confused me in the beginning.
I thought I couldn't do better. I was stuck thinking making $100 a night was impossible.
I just recently went back to SM and I have no idea why I wasn't there to begin with. Perhaps it's better I'm there now because my hustle has been perfected and I've cornered my niche.
which means raising my price is working.
I started off with 3.99/4.99 and guys were tipping on top of that. Now I'm going for 4.99/5.99 and really would like to keep pvt and excl the same as I don't like doing group role play/fetish shows.
After a month, I will aim to raise it another dollar but first I need to establish myself a bit more. This raise won't be noticed much and I'm thrilled at how well I'm doing.
And I agree, less than $5/min for cam is shit. Think about $3/min phone sex...guys pay that and we are offering VISUALS. I mean, come on.
Plus raising my price will allow me to improve my wardrobe a bit, finally afford a car, and get healthcare. Working 5-6/hrs a day has never been so rewarding, especially since I barely get nude.
Blovely
01-14-2013, 05:41 PM
I've been slowly increasing my rate over the last couple of weeks. I was at $4.09 and now I'm at $5.99. I notice that some guys that use to get shows come in my room don't say anything, sit for a couple of secs/mins, and then leave. I dunna if there coming in just to look at my price/me or if there jerking off.... either way I don't like it. If they keep popping in then I'm just going to block them. Save up your money or go somewhere else please and thank you. My rate isn't going back to what it was, in fact its just going to keep going up. I'm going to keep raising it until I get to $7.99.
QUEENOFCURVES
01-14-2013, 06:16 PM
i am new and i love my high prices had to try it.
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 03:57 AM
Ladies, advice needed here.
Like 3 weeks ago, I upped my pvt rate from 2.99 to 3.99 (my traffic was very slow so I decided to get as much as I can out of the few pvts I was getting). Now it looks to me like it was way too steep: while my earnings havent changed (even went a bit down), my paid time percentage has decreased, and my room is slowly sinking towards the 2nd page. Shall I lower my rate back to 2.99 or keep them high hoping for better? I am so close to falling off the 1st page with those high rates, but I am afraid that, if I lower them again, those guys will kick me back into charging 1.99 or less.
sammii
01-31-2013, 04:05 AM
^ I don't think anyone is going to advise you to charge $2.99. $3.99 is not steep, it's lower than average ... most girls on the front page charge at least $4.99.
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 04:23 AM
^^I know getting a certain slowdown after raising your rates is natural - but how long can it last? The thing is that, if it stays that way for another week or two, I'll cease being a front page girl)))
Snowy0Star
01-31-2013, 05:07 AM
Well it is slow right now for everyone so i wouldnt panic too much. How did guys "kick u back into charging 1.99 or less"?
LittleLexy
01-31-2013, 05:17 AM
I charge 7.99 for privates and 5.99 for exclusives. I just recently started with these prices. I have had two complaints from my regulars...I find it funny. The two men that complained were not big spenders to begin with. I'm talking two to three minute exclusives guys. LOL What did I say to them? I told them if they can't afford a extra two dollars to move there cheap asses to the next girl. I mean really...it's two freaking dollars more! All my regulars that spend 10 to 30 minutes with me...they don't say anything about my price increase. I freaking can't stand cheap assholes!
Girls..if your new to camming..who cares! Just start out with prices that are higher. Don't worry that your not good enough, because you are! I have learned this since starting in 2006. My shows were 2.99 a minute in the beginning..I want to kick myself in the ass for being worried about charging to much back then.
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 05:22 AM
I am having a hell slow week too. Well, for most of this month but I am not gonna go back to 4.99 the rate I started out when I joined SM. I think you just should wait out for a week or two before go lower. Top girls are having hard time too and they have said here again again, after years of camming experience, things will pick up. It's my first year camming and I am trying not to freak out for just a slow month. I have a vanilla job to back up and it helps. I think next year on the same week, I am gonna call for a vacation!
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 05:22 AM
Well it is slow right now for everyone so i wouldnt panic too much. How did guys "kick u back into charging 1.99 or less"?
That's a long story))) I started off at 0.99 and 1.49 and was that way for a year and a half or more. Then, it took me about a year to raise it to 1.99 and 2.99. I tried to raise it several times after, but all my regulars started boycotting me - not actually just leaving me, but hanging around in my room and telling everyone that I used to charge less and they could get cheaper shows from me by helping my old audience press me into returning to the old rates. Streamate's my only site, and camming is my only job, so I gave up after like 2 weeks of making around $20 a day. My biggest camming victory after 3 and a half years on Streamate was succesfully raising my rates as high as 2.49 and 3.99 =/.
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 05:27 AM
Maybe try 3.99/4.99 and see what happens? Give it a week or two? Maybe you will get better guys at higher price and have a second victory? :)
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 05:32 AM
^^ That's where I've been for 3 weeks, with no success so far. Well, they say it's darkest before the dawn. Hope it is my case. =/
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 05:39 AM
Try raise before dawn? :)
Snowy0Star
01-31-2013, 06:20 AM
Why didnt u just ban them? thats what i would have done. I can kinda understand it because camming is ur only job but stil...
TheBrownFox
01-31-2013, 06:59 AM
I think it's been said on here before that once you decrease your rates, it makes it kinda hard later on to raise them back up. I imagine there are cheapasses who actually remember that you were 5.99 one day, then went down to 2.99, and now you're at 7.99. LOL. And you'd better believe they'll be all "But you were 2.99 yesterday!" :P
I don't think things being slow should = time to lower rates. If anything, I think it should be the opposite. Decreasing your rates probably means that it will take you longer to get to your goal, and your cheaper rates may even attract the kind of customers you don't want ("Finger ass! I said FINGER ASS, BITCH!" LOL).
Rather than decrease my rate when it's slow, I'd rather keep them as is or raise them. That way, when you DO get private shows, you're getting them with better quality customers. Not cheapass clock-watchers ("This girl's expensive, and I've already been here for 3 minutes. Oh no!")...LOL! You want those guys who don't sit there sweating the time and dollar signs...they just wanna go with the flow and enjoy a good session.
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 07:14 AM
Why didnt u just ban them? thats what i would have done. I can kinda understand it because camming is ur only job but stil...
You underestimate the power of the Anonymous.:'( Have you ever tried to ban a name-changing scammer or a 30-sec peeker? I thought that shit would drive me crazy.
Snowy0Star
01-31-2013, 07:16 AM
O so it was just one guy it wasnt all of them?
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 08:01 AM
In the beginning, it was like four or five of them trying to gang up against me. I don't know if it were all of them being that persistent, or them plus someone else, or just some of them, or just one guy. I work full-time and have a steady schedule, so it's pretty easy to find out when to come bug me. It wasn't before I moved several time zones to the east and started logging in really early in the morning that they left me in peace.
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 08:03 AM
If they start bother you, ban them. They are not worth to lower your prices for! If anyone keeps blabbing to me about how beautiful my freckles or my smile... for like 5 min nonstop after I ask them what they wanna do... I know they are just wasting my time, I ban them. Anyone who says I am too expensive, I ban them too. Gotta trim all the cheap asses off the site! You WILL get some good paying customers at higher price. Just give it a try. :)
Kayden
01-31-2013, 08:19 AM
That's a long story))) I started off at 0.99 and 1.49 and was that way for a year and a half or more. Then, it took me about a year to raise it to 1.99 and 2.99. I tried to raise it several times after, but all my regulars started boycotting me - not actually just leaving me, but hanging around in my room and telling everyone that I used to charge less and they could get cheaper shows from me by helping my old audience press me into returning to the old rates. Streamate's my only site, and camming is my only job, so I gave up after like 2 weeks of making around $20 a day. My biggest camming victory after 3 and a half years on Streamate was succesfully raising my rates as high as 2.49 and 3.99 =/.
Why is SM your only site? In the "camming sucks rn" thread I've seen you posting that on some days you have gotten barely any traffic being in the 2nd row of the 1st page (or similarly high placement) which means those mofo's (SM) are not doing their job!!! The reason why you're getting 30-35% instead of 60-70% is because you are paying 30-35% for them to SUPPLY you with traffic. In other words it's not because of your rates - it's because SM sucks at their job (apparently. On some days at least.)
When someone is not doing what you pay them for, you try to look for fall-back options.
You are specifically from Russia if I understand correctly, my guess is that internet speeds are pretty decent there. Over the years I have seen several primarily SM models being pretty content with Cams.com as a splitting/back-up site (their "nude chat" option is very conducive for splitting - you just need to remember to set it to "non tipping"). For me personally they didn't work - my niche seems completely undeveloped/underrepresented there. I'm pretty satisfied with IL (their "freechat pausing" option is also conducive for splitting). Other models think of IL what I think of Cams.com i.e. that they're useless, in the end it depends on whether the site has a "culture" for my niche (in my case at least) as a more of a girl next door performer you actually have more options than a heavily niche'd performer like me!
Which country are you displaying? I know that Russia is on the same drop down as Czech Rep. perhaps think of changing your country? When guys tell me they are thinking of visiting Prague I tell them I'm actually from Warsaw when they say oh I was thinking of going there too, I tell them whoopsie I'm actually from Estonia my bad! :giggle: And so on. It's not very ethical but sorry I can barely roll out of the bed, even if the guy was a total hottie in my town as part of his eurotrip I just don't see myself going thru the hassle PLUS a while ago I was kind of... toying with the idea of perhaps finding a fuck buddy on the internet (with the ulterior motive of using him to shoot clips for c4s hehe) and guess what!? the guys who had actually initiated conversation with me FLAKED out when I said them that I'm DTF. For a lot of them it's just a fantasy - they don't even intend on following thru, or so it seems. So give them the run around after selecting a popular tourist destination EU member EE country.
I remember with disgust back in my LJ days when I actually disclosed my country once this fat entitled fuck from my country/speaking my language (he gave me a link to some profile or something) hogged up my attention in freechat for I think good 40 minutes I want to just shake my head remembering that - what was I thinking!? yuck yuck yuck
Also there is no such a thing as regulars! (In Kaydenland at least there isn't ::)) The whole concept makes me uneasy - when they allude that we might have some "special connection" (bitch, please!) I'm just like: squinting my eyes, faintly smiling and I go "I kinda remember ur username but I don't remember what did we do :D" If certain "regulars" are disorganizing your room I think it's def worth looking into banning them at least temporarily. I'm not huge on banning (currently have 0 banned) but behavior as you describe must have consequences. Either way someone not spending money at that moment =/= regular.
Also what kind of accent do you have? The accent may not even be that important 'cause your English is on point. Have you considered telling them that you reside in the US as part of your "hustle" (if those idiots are so preoccupied with your geographic location)? OK, I know this is not ethical but back when I used to use audio they simply wouldn't take "eastern europe" for an answer to the question where I'm from, I guess I have too little accent so after second questioning which state I'm from I just told them I'm from NYC. EVEN if I were in NYC and EVEN if one of them was a total hottie and I was down to hook up I could totally imagine them freaking out at the last moment and flaking out on me. No good deed goes unpunished as they say... not being entirely truthful could work to your advantage. In the end you sell fantasy.
OK, that's my "two cents" ;D
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 09:00 AM
THANK YOU A LOT, LADIES!
Camming in January might be just just generally slow because of custies making up for their Christmas and New Year expenses, not because of SM being lazy bitches. Need to see if it gets any better in February =/
I thought about changing my display location - but on my dropdown it doesn't show Czech Republic, just the former Soviet countries which can be only better than RU for not being that well-known. The studio I used to work at uses its own VPN and a dedicated server in the UK - but since I moved to another city they don't give me access to it anymore. I'm really damn pissed seeing the girls from the same studio work on SM under the UK location and do just fine charging 3.99 and 4.99 (and most of them don't even speak). I tried using a paid VPN to change my location to the UK (I do have an accent, but guys from the USA I mostly work with identify it as British), but it sucked for dropping my internet speed almost thrice. I am afraid simulcasting to 2 or more sites can have the same outcome - though splitting my day betweeen them could be worth trying.
Yet another thing I'm afraid of is that the studio I am registered with might find out about me working elsewhere and cut me off Streamate. Do they allow masks or no-face camming on Cams.com/IL?
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 10:36 AM
Have you tried using hotspot shield? It helped me a lot with speed problem. Incantious made a post about hotspot somewhere on here. I'm on iPhone so it's hard to search for it right now.
beauvoir
01-31-2013, 10:39 AM
On AW, I charge 1.5/min in group and 2.5/min private. I was going to wait a year before upping my prices, but considering how busy I am I was considering upping my prices. I don't want to be so expensive that I lose customers, but don't want to feel I'm missing out on an income.
Advice?
xx
CurvyWinona
01-31-2013, 10:51 AM
Here the post for hotspot- http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?180353-How-I-got-the-encoder-working-increased-my-upload-speed-and-made-lots-more-!&highlight=Hotspot+shield
Try it!
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 10:52 AM
I'm using it currently (went Elite after I read Incantatious' post actually), and it really helps (not dramatically, but definitely helps). Too bad it doesn't solve the display country problem. When I'm using Hotspot the dropout only shows A1 and the display country remains the same. Got to try a VPN+Hotspot combo.
Kayden
01-31-2013, 10:58 AM
THANK YOU A LOT, LADIES!
Camming in January might be just just generally slow because of custies making up for their Christmas and New Year expenses, not because of SM being lazy bitches. Need to see if it gets any better in February =/
I thought about changing my display location - but on my dropdown it doesn't show Czech Republic, just the former Soviet countries which can be only better than RU for not being that well-known. The studio I used to work in uses its own VPN and a dedicated server in the UK - but since I moved to another city they don't give me access to it anymore. I'm really damn pissed seeing the girls from the same studio work on SM under the UK location and do just fine charging 3.99 and 4.99 (and most of them don't even speak). I tried using a paid VPN to change my location to the UK (I do have an accent, but guys from the USA I mostly work with identify it as British), but it sucked for dropping my internet speed almost thrice. I am afraid simulcasting to 2 or more sites can have the same outcome - though splitting my day betweeen them could be worth trying.
Yet another thing I'm afraid of is that the studio I am registered with might find out about me working elsewhere and cut me off Streamate. Do they allow masks or no-face camming on Cams.com/IL?
Hmm, perhaps Estonia could do? They are the closest to Scandinavia (altho it already is a pretty popular display country for EE's) Well at least if some Russian guy showed up and wanted to hog your attention in freechat you could go "Mina on eestlane, ei vene keel" <-- LMAO that was my terrible, broken attempt at speaking Estonian. Well that's what *I* would do, 'cause IMO not letting local losers eat up your attention is important, ok, unless you have more patience than me or UNLESS they're paying.
I guess it's not something I would recommend straight off the bat but perhaps if you acquired some back-up options it could be beneficial to restart SM with Daily Pay, in other words, getting away from your current studio and joining a studio that doesn't have any bullshit policies and is actually offering a service in return (i.e., daily payout.)
I'm not aware of any rule that would forbid not showing face on Cams.com/IL, so yeah, def make accounts with them, neither of them "deactivate" your profiles in case you don't log on. IL's min p/o is $50 and they pay out pretty much on the same day pp ends and cams.com pays out I think a week later (i.e., none of that LJ month waiting bullshit.)
Actually I should follow my own advice - I'm *kinda* able to justify charging $3.99 I guess... because I would be wee bit self conscious charging more than what all the Americans in my category charge! Idk how are they able to justify charging so low, ok, Midwestern cities actually have cheaper rent than I'm getting here but some of those performers live in crazy expensive places like San Francisco. I'm totally breaching one of the fundamental camgirls' rules (i.e., not sticking your nose in other performers' business) BUT a performer from my category who also happens to be a regular poster on CC recently raised their rate which makes me really happy and hopeful that I could bump mine up - I wouldn't be charging more than Americans I would be charging the same as the highest charging American ;D (ok, maybe after I get a good 3rd backup...)
Vlodina
01-31-2013, 11:04 AM
UP. THEM. NOW. After a year of staying where you are, you will get yourself the cheapest, the pickiest and the most disrespectful audience, thousands of them, and you will be having hard times trying to raise your rates or get those asshats off your back. I am speaking from my own experience.
Just pointing out here that Beauvoir was talking about £, not $, so her prices aren't dead low (especially when coupled with the fact that we get 65% on Adultwork). They are good average-ish prices.
Sunnylexie
01-31-2013, 11:12 AM
Just pointing out here that Beauvoir was talking about £, not $, so her prices aren't dead low (especially when coupled with the fact that we get 65% on Adultwork). They are good average-ish prices.
AWW, nevermind)
beauvoir
01-31-2013, 11:42 AM
Just pointing out here that Beauvoir was talking about £, not $, so her prices aren't dead low (especially when coupled with the fact that we get 65% on Adultwork). They are good average-ish prices.
I thought it was 70%?
Vlodina
01-31-2013, 12:04 PM
You get 65% on Direct cam. 70% for bookings, movies, pics, sales. Directchat varies, think it's 15p/min you lose plus 30% so the % for that varies depending on what you charge.
beauvoir
01-31-2013, 12:18 PM
Ahhh... I never work it out anyway, I just let admin take their fee. x
ABigNerd
02-01-2013, 01:07 AM
Have you tried gradually raising your rates? I tried to go from $1.99 to $3.99, and the guys threw a fit. Over the last few months I gave myself a raise every time I got a new toy, a better computer, a better cam, etc. The couple of guys that called me out I explained that an extra dollar or two for the show is nothing to them, but it helps me a lot. Do you do anal, certain roleplays, or deepthroat? Do you fit into a small niche? If you offer something special that a lot of girls won't do/ can't satisfy then you MUST charge more than they do. Almost all of my customers know this, and they'll tell me that I deserve more. I have lost a few guys, but they were mostly minute men, and were very demanding. It seems like after 3 years, you should be able to do this and keep most of your regulars.
It's incredibly slow on SM right now. I've been browsing other rooms while mine is dead. It's almost all beggers. I'm generally pretty laid back and I just try to have fun. I've had to hustle like crazy this week just to keep afloat. A lot of people are sick or taking extra work because their coworkers are sick. A lot of my guys run their own businesses and own property too. They're figuring out their finances before they have to pay taxes. Do you have a mailing list set up? Sometimes when I'm anticipating a slow period, I'll take a few sexy pics and send a mass e-mail. SM only allows you to message so many guys at once, so it takes some time. It usually pays off for me though. I wouldn't lower your rates though. I've tried doing 'specials' a few times and I just get depressed because I lost out on money from the privates I did get.
ABigNerd
02-01-2013, 01:24 AM
I just wanted to throw it out there that I've asked my guys about their favorite models. Ninety percent of the time, they name girls from eastern Europe (I'm an American). I think you're selling yourself short. Your written English is great, so I'm assuming you speak it well too. People like exotic things. About half of my regulars are European. They always tell me what a beautiful accent I have. I'm sure American men will love your accent as long as you can understand each other. I think European models the guys don't care for are the ones that answer everything with "Good, bb" or "Yes, bb". Those girls can't charge normal rates.
TheBrownFox
02-01-2013, 01:24 AM
I raised my ImLive rate to the max ($5.80/min) today. I was at 3.80, and I know most would say I should've just raised it to 4.80 first, but I was like fuck it. I'm able to get exclusive shows on Streamate for 5.99/min from the decent guys willing to spend, so why not? One guy took me private on ImLive for a measly one minute, but I thought it was cool to have my first private at the max price...lol. I don't really expect much out of ImLive anymore. I still like the site and love not having to do free chat, but the traffic is no where near as good as MFC or SM's.
Oh, and you know how I'm always saying I hardly ever get chargebacks on ImLive? Well this time, I got tiny chargebacks from 3 different people...smh.
Sunnylexie
02-01-2013, 03:40 AM
Have you tried gradually raising your rates? I tried to go from $1.99 to $3.99, and the guys threw a fit. Over the last few months I gave myself a raise every time I got a new toy, a better computer, a better cam, etc. The couple of guys that called me out I explained that an extra dollar or two for the show is nothing to them, but it helps me a lot.
That is what I do. My latest regular raise (2.49 to 2.99) was to get my new laptop and PTZ cam to pay for themselves, actually. I went for the steep 2.99 to 3.99 raise because with 2.99 it was VERY slow.
Does the toy purchase/service range expanding explanation really work for you? All reaction I get is "But... but havent you bought them to please yourself?" or "This is for you to be getting more pvts, you're already making money off it"))))))))
Do you do anal, certain roleplays, or deepthroat? Do you fit into a small niche? If you offer something special that a lot of girls won't do/ can't satisfy then you MUST charge more than they do. Almost all of my customers know this, and they'll tell me that I deserve more. I have lost a few guys, but they were mostly minute men, and were very demanding. It seems like after 3 years, you should be able to do this and keep most of your regulars.
Speaking of the more or less usual services - I use a variety of toys and bondage gear and do deepthroat, but I don't offer anal or fisting or huge/weird insertions. I am in the "Hairy" niche, meaning I'm all hairy (armpits and legs, too). I cater to some popular fetishes and roleplay scenarios, except the ones tabooed by the site. I also do self-bondage (I'm pretty good at it) and pain-play, except the kinds leaving bruises, cuts or other marks on my body or otherwise making me unable to return to my camming routine that same day.
CurvyWinona
02-01-2013, 04:04 AM
You have great fetish! You definitely need charge more for the special niches you have! :)
Sunnylexie
02-01-2013, 05:26 AM
^^So, staying where I am (3.99 and 4.99) is justified. Am I right?
sammii
02-01-2013, 06:02 AM
^ Yes, I PROMISE you, guys will pay it. Just give it a chance.
CurvyWinona
02-01-2013, 06:04 AM
Yeah or go higher. :) hope things will work out for you. I too have slowest week ever, so I didn't cam much as I normally do. But I am gonna cam more later today and tomorrow in the hopes to make at least a payout.
CurvyWinona
02-01-2013, 06:12 AM
I used to have the feeling that I shouldn't go higher than 3.99 or 4.99 because I worried that I might lose a lot of custies but I needed to go higher to make myself feel good. I am not a happy meal, u know? I just went ahead and started at high cuz I didn't have much to lose. Boy, I felt so good and I actually earn times more than I used to earn AND work lesser! Now, I am at the point where I have absolutely NO bad feeling for the guys who cannot afford me. I just ban them. Lol. Guys with no intention to spend more than $10 just need to die in a fire for being on the site. Now, I have way less assholes and beggars in my room ever since! :)
Marina Starr
02-01-2013, 07:38 AM
Yesterday was so slow for me for like half a day then I decided the hell with it and raised my rates to the max and see what happens. I did not expect to get any private or exclusive but I was happy to be proven wrong. I'm still on the fence of wether I should lower it or keep things as they are.