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Snowy0Star
02-01-2013, 03:40 PM
FUCK YES
and if u lose regulars for it o well ull make new ones

Sunnylexie
02-01-2013, 08:25 PM
Too bad most guys in my following arent really into any fetish. I have some regulars who are, and they are ready to pay the money, but everyone else is whining on how they don't need any of these and all they want is the good old cheap pussy.
Of all the fetishes I ever offered, CHEAP seems to be the most demanded))))

Snowy0Star
02-01-2013, 08:29 PM
Too bad most guys in my following arent really into any fetish. I have some regulars who are, and they are ready to pay the money, but everyone else is whining on how they don't need any of these and all they want is the good old cheap pussy.
Of all the fetishes I ever offered, CHEAP seems to be the most demanded))))

aw hun :(. maybe u can try marketing urslef better? ive never seen u on cam and i dont know how u market but maybe reach out on twitter(pimp ur cam modles link) and fetlife and my pornfile anything. i bet it must stress u the fuck out to have to survive on camming i was in ur shoes when i was escorting i was doing $60 for an hour witch is dirt cheap for San Diego but it was where i had to be to get cleints or i would never get calls and make money. I'm sure if you start asking for what u deserve it wont that bad tho. Things will look up good luck

Sunnylexie
02-02-2013, 02:29 AM
^^Well, they do not say it exactly that way, and some of them used to watch the fetish/bondage shows when I was charging less for them. But they are rather like "You do it because you enjoy it - so you shouldn't be charging us extra for it" or "You don't have to do it, most guys would be happy with regular dildo shows for 1.99". But, yes, worth a bitch slap.

Snowy0Star, thank you ever so much for mentioning Fetlife - I currently advertise on Twitter and FB, but I definitely need to make it more targeted.

Snowy0Star
02-02-2013, 03:08 AM
^^Well, they do not say it exactly that way, and some of them used to watch the fetish/bondage shows when I was charging less for them. But they are rather like "You do it because you enjoy it - so you shouldn't be charging us extra for it" or "You don't have to do it, most guys would be happy with regular dildo shows for 1.99". But, yes, worth a bitch slap.

Snowy0Star, thank you ever so much for mentioning Fetlife - I currently advertise on Twitter and FB, but I definitely need to make it more targeted.

Do you have fan page or do u have a normal profile on Facebook? I tried to make a regular page with my cam name and Facebook wouldnt let me because it wasnt a "real" name and they suggusted I make a fan page so I did and used my cam name.

Sunnylexie
02-02-2013, 04:21 AM
Yes, it's a normal profile, and I had no problem creating it /:O.

CurvyWinona
02-03-2013, 10:51 AM
Sunnylexie, it's been few days since the discussion. How have your rates been doing for you? Hope it's better, even just a little bit.

Sunnylexie
02-04-2013, 12:02 AM
I can't tell yet (had to take several days off). Hopefully all the SM guys will get paid by the time I come back)))

AshleyRed
03-09-2013, 03:03 PM
I've started to read this thread from the beginning and I'm in page 6 right now. However, I found I should say something around here, can't wait anymore :D

I'm not American, as girls probably already know. But I LIE being American because when I told custies where I am from... well, I got a mix of fetishism and "well, so I could pay less for you" kind of reaction. Well, it's not because I'm from a country where I'll make much more earning in US dollars that I should charge less for my shows and pvts, right? If you want to pay less for girls from my country find another one who doesn't have a good English or who doesn't speak English at all ;-)

I made the mistake of telling where I'm from in my first day camming. The following days I've stick to the "I'm from the US" thing and even American guys didn't doubt it. My accent is pretty good and I've always worked on it A LOT. I guess it came out kinda handy right now. If guys insist on being more specific I tell them I'm from Hill Valley, the fictional city from "Back to the Future", hahahahaha!

Still settling my prices, but I never stick to the lowest rate. But I'm not putting it up too much because I'm still learning. I want to leave "learning mode" by the end of the month, when my bandwidth will be already the best one I can have here in my country and when I get some new toys... got only a vibrator so far :(

So, I can resume everything like that: I'M NO CHEAP MATERIAL JUST BECAUSE I'M NOT AMERICAN ¬¬ but people think I am when I tell my background, so I guess I should stick to being American while camming, after all... I guess besides avoiding the "cheap girl" blah blah blah it helps with privacy issues... :)

JoJoX
03-09-2013, 03:19 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it is wrong to say that non-north americans can't do any better? I mean, they are equivalent to us, they are cam girls too and deserve just as much.

AshleyRed
03-09-2013, 05:05 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it is wrong to say that non-north americans can't do any better? I mean, they are equivalent to us, they are cam girls too and deserve just as much.

I couldn't agree more with you, but that still happens... and it sucks :(

Missbeth
03-09-2013, 06:21 PM
Am I the only one who thinks it is wrong to say that non-north americans can't do any better? I mean, they are equivalent to us, they are cam girls too and deserve just as much.
No you're not the only one...
I think they are sometimes better camgirls than us on the basis that most of them work way longer hours and more days a week than us "north American girls"
However....depending on what country they are living in some of them can live like queens on $500/week so that's something to consider.

However I totally stick to the argument that EVERY cam girl should make WAYYY more than we make.

AshleyRed
03-09-2013, 09:19 PM
No you're not the only one...
I think they are sometimes better camgirls than us on the basis that most of them work way longer hours and more days a week than us "north American girls"
However....depending on what country they are living in some of them can live like queens on $500/week so that's something to consider.

However I totally stick to the argument that EVERY cam girl should make WAYYY more than we make.

Missbeth, I don't know how much girls need there in the US in order to have a good living, but if I made $500/week I would make more than I do alone at my business right now (of course I want to expand, but that's what I make now). If I made $ 1000/week I would make more than my husband and I TOGETHER =P If I made $ 1000/week I would make the average of a mid to high executive in many companies here. I wouldn't live like a queen for $ 500/week, but I would surely live like the queen of the universe with $ 1000/week XD

The bad thing is that I'll need to hide my persona under american cover for the reasons I've mentioned before... and I only have around 4 hours to work a day, I hope it will be enough to make at least 500 bucks a week. But my goal is 1000 bucks/week. I'll let you know what I got in the "goal threads". I'm still learning, still learning.

But I agree with all of you that Cam Girls should make more. And besides that, I think cam girls should be more respected like working girls... I hate the damn freeloaders ¬¬ I mean, are you for real that you don't have a single credit to spend on me but wanna see my boobies/show your cock/just a flash or anything? Like THEY WOULD DO WORK FOR FREE? Bleh...

Ashley_3
03-09-2013, 10:48 PM
Oh, where I live I can live like a queen with 500 $, that's true. At first I was lying when they asked me where I'm from, but I was picking countries in Europe (I'm in Europe really). But then I stopped and I started telling my real country. I don't think I've had negative reaction, but I realize, not everyone will like that. I don't know, being honest is much more easy for me.
As for the prices I've set them pretty low, because I'm new and I'm still learning. In sm my pvt is 1,99 and the excl 2,99. I might try raising them with a dollar just to see if it is any difference. I would charge as much as I think I can offer. Right now I have an hd cam, but not the best, I don't have lighting and generally I don't speak on cam (sadly I have an accent and I'm not sure there's anything I can do about it). And also I'm not good at fetishes, because I'm still new and not sure what to do and what men like. So that's why I've set my prices low. But I''m definitely raising them when I get some lighting and become a little more confident and experienced.

Sunnylexie
03-10-2013, 12:57 AM
Speaking about "$500 queens": in a perfect world, the model's pricing is determined by her performance, not her expenses.
According to the people who think that spending less should equal to charging less, someone living in a land where rivers are milk and honey and fancy shoes grow on trees should please others free of charge just because living costs her nothing.

Ashley_3
03-10-2013, 01:02 AM
Well, that's what I'm trying to do. But I understand, that not speaking perfect english is some disadvantage for me and take this in mind.

loveshooks
03-10-2013, 01:26 AM
Am I the only one who thinks it is wrong to say that non-north americans can't do any better? I mean, they are equivalent to us, they are cam girls too and deserve just as much.

I agree 1000%, but ultimately we aren't the target audience for that message. Based on what I've heard from guys throughout the years one of the significant challenges faced by non-Western chicas is customer perceptions, and we all have the power to confront that. I'm sure I'm not the only one who's dealt with these guys (I know I've even seen it here on sw occasionally) who parrot unfair stereotypes about women located outside the West....and when we hear that ish we need to challenge it. While I can see language issue as being a legit barrier for some customers, in that those with specific and detailed requests/fantasies need to be able to convey those to their chosen cam partner, the trope of the studio-zombie split camming on 15 sites simultaneously is not the case for every cam chica located outside the west. It's NOT the norm, and quality is not tied to location. Most of us know that, but the guys need to know it too.

I get that it's tricky to have convos about geo location and rates here, in that without discussing (and risking the reproduction of) unfair tropes we can't acknowledge that they exist and are a real challenge for many members here. That said, every one of us who disgrees with that crap about non-Western chicas needs to confront it where we find it. I really appreciate it when those of y'all who confront these issues personally are willing to discuss them because it is an important issue and it's one I think a lot of Western chicas aren't all that aware of, simply because it's not usually part of the western experience of camming.

as an aside, @Ashley your english is on point. If that's holding you back, forget it and bump your rates already :)

BrightAndClaire
03-10-2013, 02:17 AM
Speaking of the more or less usual services - I use a variety of toys and bondage gear and do deepthroat, but I don't offer anal or fisting or huge/weird insertions. I am in the "Hairy" niche, meaning I'm all hairy (armpits and legs, too). I cater to some popular fetishes and roleplay scenarios, except the ones tabooed by the site. I also do self-bondage (I'm pretty good at it) and pain-play, except the kinds leaving bruises, cuts or other marks on my body or otherwise making me unable to return to my camming routine that same day.

We do similar things (I am damned good at beating myself without it actually hurting), and I just raised my prices past the $5 mark. If you're duct taping your limbs together while paddling your tits and gagging on a dildo, all while looking gorgeous, then you need to price yourself accordingly.

mimiboo69
03-10-2013, 10:30 AM
I am at 1.99/3.99 doing ok on the 1page and 2page on SM, who care what others are charging as long your doing great thats all that matters

Ashley_3
03-10-2013, 10:45 AM
as an aside, @Ashley your english is on point. If that's holding you back, forget it and bump your rates already :)

Well, thank you, but really I'm not speaking good. I have strong accent and I can't do dirty talking.

Missbeth
03-10-2013, 10:53 AM
Well, thank you, but really I'm not speaking good. I have strong accent and I can't do dirty talking.
Not everyone wants dirty talk.... :)
I rarely do it..


I am at 1.99/3.99 doing ok on the 1page and 2page on SM, who care what others are charging as long your doing great thats all that matters

I understand but at $1.99/min you are only making 70 cents a minute. I am pretty sure you must have more than one person in private at a time BUT if only 1 person was in pvt for a whole hour you would only make $42 and around $33 after taxes.
Just food for thought....

LavishLivia
03-10-2013, 11:49 AM
I can't talk dirty for the life of me! I should start practising it on my own language and maybe try it again in English. But that's for sure, not all of us can talk dirty and it's not a pre-requisite or something.

You have to find your own way. It's gonna sound more natural than trying to do something you're not comfortable with (yet ;)

LavishLivia
03-10-2013, 11:55 AM
Speaking about "$500 queens": in a perfect world, the model's pricing is determined by her performance, not her expenses.
According to the people who think that spending less should equal to charging less, someone living in a land where rivers are milk and honey and fancy shoes grow on trees should please others free of charge just because living costs her nothing.

My thoughts exactly. Unfortunately, as loveshooks said, this message is not targeted on us, camgirls, but rather at our customers, so it's up to us non-US camgirls to educate them come hell or high water. They're not gona learn it the easy way.

Ashley_3
03-10-2013, 12:09 PM
Ok, I did it :D I set my pvt on 2,99 and excl is 3,99 on sm. I'm not rising my lj price, because it's completely different there. I think I'll only use lj with splitcamming. I'll let you know how it goes next week :)

loveshooks
03-10-2013, 01:18 PM
Well, thank you, but really I'm not speaking good. I have strong accent and I can't do dirty talking.

accents are sexy, and if you google 'dirty talk scripts' a ton of resources pop up. Read through to get some inspiration, hell, write some down on post-its and stick em to your comp for easy referral if it makes it easier }:D Either way, I think that a natural-sounding (meaning not stumbling over the words) delivery is far more important than the actual words/phrases one uses. To that end, one technique you could use to increase your comfort/confidence level is to film yourself practicing dirty talk, then review the footage to see what works best for you, your voice, your cam persona.

congrats on the rates bump as well...I get where you're coming from in wanting to wait to increase your rates as you gain more experience and expertise, but the best $$$$$ guys aren't looking for a 'perfect' cam show, they're looking for an authentic experience with a real human being. By the standards of the site (a significant factor in determining rates) you have a lot of room to move up. I hope you continue to experiment with rates increases as your confidence grows.

Ashley_3
03-10-2013, 02:23 PM
loveshooks, thank you so much, I had no idea that I can find scripts. I'm definitely going to find some and practice. I don't want to become the dirty talking queen, but I need to learn to say somethings. In my first private on sm the guy said he wanted me to do certain things, I did them without speaking and then he told me he wanted me to tell him a specific thing. And I typed what he wanted, but he said he wanted to me to tell it, not type it. Stupid me. Well, I told it, but I think it sounded horrible and he left soon after. There is another thing, also, I don't like how my voice sounds. Even when I'm speaking my own language. And I have a little speaking defect. All of this makes me really not confident.

TheBrownFox
03-10-2013, 02:43 PM
Dirty talk is VERY awkward for me to do, because that's the kind of thing I'd rather do naturally...not "on demand." So when I have regulars buying custom videos (or winning them as a contest prize) where they want me to dirty talk, I'm thinking "Dammit!" LOL. It's awkward as hell too when I have to go edit the videos, because I have to listen to myself...lol.

AshleyRed
03-10-2013, 04:42 PM
Oh, another non-american Ashley hahahahaha... XD

I had problems talking dirty as well when I was still learning English, but then I got an English speaker bf and got lots of experience from that... hahahah!

Many years later I've decided cammimg and I forgot part of dity-talking stuff... so I've researched on that, looking for videos on the internet and porn movies. I guess I'm ready again, and I really advice girls who have trouble talking dirty to look for videos and learn from them... Even in my native language I had trouble on that, untill I've tried to learn it good. I really felt like Moss from IT Crowd (English sitcom) trying to talk dirty before I've looked for videos to improve that.

Ashley, I can't tell I'm from a country nearby where I live because I don't speak their language =P I just speak my language and English. Ok, I'll just let it out: I'm Brazilian. That means I don't speak Spanish, so I can't tell I'm from another South American country. Either I'm from an English speaker country or a Portuguese speaker country. But when I tell costumers that I'm from Brazil they usually get really surprised about my English, and then think I should be cheaper ¬¬ I really don't know what to do, I wish I could say who I really am because of the fetishism around being Brazilian (ass and everything, I've got a big curvy one), but how can I make guys think I'm no cheap meat?

And I agree performance is what rules your price, and not where you're from. That's why my prices won't be low at all... at least average.

KittyAudrey
03-10-2013, 07:05 PM
My english is not native either and I charge 3.80 a minute and they pay. Im terrible with dirty talking but I have a txt on my desktop called "dirtytime" lol with quotes I think are useful and matches my cam persona and it works very good for me. I always get the "you have a sweet/nice/etc accent" but I always let them know Im not native after they realize I understand them, what annoys me are the guys that leaves when you I tell them Im not from the US not even giving me a chance to prove Im good at what I do. Jerks.
Anyways I always think on charging more than I already charge, never drop my rates and I rarely give discounts muahaha }:D but I think 3.80 works for me and them.

roast
03-10-2013, 08:32 PM
A dirty talk suggestion is also if they say something, parrot it back as a question or just ask a lot of questions

Like:
Guy: Mmm my cock is so hard
You: Ohh your cock is hard?
Guy: Yesss
You: How hard is your cock?
Guy: Super hard
You: Mmmm (lol idk) bet it is sooo hard... mmm love your hard cock
Guy: Can you show me your pussy
You: Want to see it -slowly tease towards nude vagina- Want to.. see my pussy? -sexy eyebrow raise- (but you know, show it lol)
Guy: Love your tits
You: mmmm you love my tits -boobie rub- what do you love about my tits?
Guy: big ole nipples mmm
You: Like my big... nipples? -lean in to highlight big ole nipples- mmm theyre as hard as your cock -rub nipples-
Guy: omgg


....OK this all sounds and looks stupid, haha I know. Id say Im pretty good at dirty talk but am terrible at it if the guy is giving me nothing to go on (50% of the time, especially if they just say 'talk dirty' and type little else)....but if I just echo what he is saying I have a vague idea what he likes, it tends to go better. Like certain words they use try just repeating them, if he says 'dick', say 'dick', if he says 'boobs', say 'boobs'. If youre at a loss, basically it isnt always your fault for not knowing the language 100%. It can be intimidating talking dirty in another language - going slowly is really a blessing, bc you can stretchhhh your delivery so it sounds sexier (plus gives you more time to think)... slow seems intentionally sexy when secretly youre just thinking of the next sentence.

Or randomly coo in your native language if youre super stuck so theyre like "omfg what did you say! so hott" when you could be saying "English is a pain in the ass, your cam is so blurry, I want to take a nap, mmmmm", just be like 'I was so turned on I spoke in [your language] lol sorry ;) where were we?'

Plus bear in mind if he's jerking away and your giant nude moving image is on his screen - he isnt giving much of an english language critique anyway? Seriously!

mimiboo69
03-10-2013, 09:19 PM
Not everyone wants dirty talk.... :)
I rarely do it..



I understand but at $1.99/min you are only making 70 cents a minute. I am pretty sure you must have more than one person in private at a time BUT if only 1 person was in pvt for a whole hour you would only make $42 and around $33 after taxes.
Just food for thought....

Most of the time I have 1-3 guy in a show at one time that is why I set rates like that the other day I went on for a hour 1/2 made 60.00 less then two hours I hate sitting in free chat but I only fuck my pussy for 1.99 if they want anything more they have to pay 3.99 like cam2cam all nude I mean anything have to pay more that is the catch everyone is diffident it works for me

QUEENOFCURVES
03-11-2013, 10:05 AM
good for you mimi do what works for u.:)
Most of the time I have 1-3 guy in a show at one time that is why I set rates like that the other day I went on for a hour 1/2 made 60.00 less then two hours I hate sitting in free chat but I only fuck my pussy for 1.99 if they want anything more they have to pay 3.99 like cam2cam all nude I mean anything have to pay more that is the catch everyone is diffident it works for me

passionflower
03-11-2013, 09:47 PM
I hope I can get some advice about how to price myself without going too low. I've had some good days on SM but I want to switch to nights and leave my day open for another site. The only problem is that I really can't do audio at night. What is a good rate for someone who is relatively new and working without sound?

TheBrownFox
03-11-2013, 10:11 PM
I hope I can get some advice about how to price myself without going too low. I've had some good days on SM but I want to switch to nights and leave my day open for another site. The only problem is that I really can't do audio at night. What is a good rate for someone who is relatively new and working without sound?


When I first started on there (well, actually it was a Streamate studio before), the studio agent told me that they recommend models START OUT at $3.99/minute for premium and $4.99/minute for exclusive. Of course you can make your rates higher than that. I think to go higher than $4.99 you have to message SM and ask them to raise your rates to such and such.

passionflower
03-11-2013, 10:40 PM
Thanks Yummy. That's what I had my shows at during the day when I had sound. Should I keep them there even with my mic off at night?

delilahd
03-11-2013, 11:44 PM
I did it! I feel like I'm mad but I bumped up my rates on AW to 2.79/3.09 per min. There is totally a part of me that is like "No one is gonna spend that much on me" but I gotta be bigger than that part of me. I have an HD cam, I am easy on the eyes and I have personality. I think it is worth $4+/min in my currency. I will give it two weeks and see how my new rates go. If they bust, I still know I can make money at a lower rate. I might be "that new girl" in terms of my prices but shit, it is worth a shot.

Right now, its a matter of me chanting to myself "I'm worth it!"

Cuz, we all are!!

Classy_Katy
03-11-2013, 11:49 PM
I find it works well for the first month then stops!

delilahd
03-11-2013, 11:57 PM
Classy, thank goodness for my timing. That info helps me now so I can at least try and max out my new girl status now and hopefully figure out what works after that one month or so.

Thanks!

Ashley_3
03-12-2013, 02:46 AM
Well, I stayed for 2 hours on sm and absolutely no pvts :( Not sure I'm doing it right.

JaneBurgess
03-12-2013, 06:03 PM
Can you offer the phone option in exclusive? A lot of customers want sound in their private shows.



I hope I can get some advice about how to price myself without going too low. I've had some good days on SM but I want to switch to nights and leave my day open for another site. The only problem is that I really can't do audio at night. What is a good rate for someone who is relatively new and working without sound?

passionflower
03-12-2013, 07:00 PM
Can you offer the phone option in exclusive? A lot of customers want sound in their private shows.

I don't know why I didn't think of that! Yes, speaking into a headset instead of the mic lets me keep my voice down. Thanks!

JackAlexander
04-15-2013, 10:20 PM
BUMP

I LOVE this thread and it has been awhile since there has been a post.
For the newbies that think you are not worth more or are charging below $4,99, especially on SM... please read this thread and these threads - RAISE YOUR RATES BB's

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge!&highlight=raise+rates

https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?181068-webcamming-at-4-99-a-minute-or-higher&p=2445558#post2445558

just my opinion :)
yay I am full of myself tonight

TheBrownFox
04-16-2013, 01:25 AM
I'm glad this thread was bumped. I think it's a great thread for reminding cam models that they don't need to be afraid to experiment with their rates and charge more. :)

Via Flaminia
04-16-2013, 09:58 AM
Last January I raised my Exclusive rate on SM from 4.99 to 5.99. No one has made a comment about it so far. :) In fact, I haven't been on SM as much, and guys are saying over and over "Where have you been, I have been wanting to do a show with you" (and they back it up and do the show - no complaining about the rates).

Thank you for bumping this thread. The encouragement here from you all is just what the doctor ordered for me.

kittykrane
04-16-2013, 10:55 AM
I get many more guys at 4.99 for Exclusive than when I tested 5.99/minute..Sure there were some willing to pay 5.99, but they were minute men. Back to $4.99 and I get nice long shows & I'm not killing myself either. I just reactivated my IMLIVE after a 2 year hiatus and have my rate set at 4.80/min. I made $40 my first hour back. Naked.com just sucks...so many freeloaders. I can't rely on that as my back up site and I'm tired of guys saying "Look at my cam bb, flash tits etc.." when they can't even read the tip amounts in my topic line.

DoodlebugBites
04-16-2013, 06:16 PM
Just wanted to share this: Someone today told me in his two years on SM he had never seen a model as expensive as me.

Now, I know full well this is not the case so I just laughed and said, "Sweetie, I have a hard time believing that. Maybe you should get your eyesight checked?" (He is 81.) Then he got the big ole' foot.

To paraphrase Eleanor Roosevelt, no one can make me feel bad about my rates without my permission.

Pearl_Sugar
04-16-2013, 06:45 PM
I've actually thought about lowering my rates by a $. I was at 4.49/4.99 and I was near-constantly in pvt/exc. I don't know if it's the turn of the season or the economy, but ever since I've been at 5.49/5.99 it's been really slow... It was great for a few weeks, then it just bombed.

DoodlebugBites
04-16-2013, 08:22 PM
I've actually thought about lowering my rates by a $. I was at 4.49/4.99 and I was near-constantly in pvt/exc. I don't know if it's the turn of the season or the economy, but ever since I've been at 5.49/5.99 it's been really slow... It was great for a few weeks, then it just bombed.

Keep in mind it's been slow for a lot of people the past couple of weeks. The only way you will know is to keep your rates the same (whether that's lower or higher) through the fluctuations. Soup to nuts if you lower your rates when it's slow you will just be making less when you do get some business. Then you'll be thinking that you would have made more at the higher rate.

Maybe try varying other things instead–time, set-up, niches, etc? Honestly, a dollar/min more is not a huge factor for someone who has the money for this luxury, in my opinion at least. And those who can afford it see the value in higher prices.

luscious sadie
04-16-2013, 08:50 PM
I would rather have higher rates and spend more time in free chat than be constantly in private for cheaper. That's just a personal thing though... I think it's a personal decision that everyone has to make :)

TheBrownFox
04-17-2013, 05:08 AM
I would rather have higher rates and spend more time in free chat than be constantly in private for cheaper. That's just a personal thing though... I think it's a personal decision that everyone has to make :)

Yeah, I don't know how models on SM can do those back-to-back privates (if most/all of those privates involve dildo play, I mean). Don't get me wrong...I love money like everybody else, but I don't love having a sore pussy. I think I'd have to log off early if it got to the point where I'm getting nothing but penetration private shows. Either that, or stay in public chat for a little while and do more 5 Gold flashes.