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CarmenF
04-17-2013, 05:26 AM
Yeah, I don't know how models on SM can do those back-to-back privates (if most/all of those privates involve dildo play, I mean). Don't get me wrong...I love money like everybody else, but I don't love having a sore pussy. I think I'd have to log off early if it got to the point where I'm getting nothing but penetration private shows. Either that, or stay in public chat for a little while and do more 5 Gold flashes.
I'd rather work back to back at high rates :P
kittykrane
04-17-2013, 05:58 AM
Yeah, I don't know how models on SM can do those back-to-back privates (if most/all of those privates involve dildo play, I mean). Don't get me wrong...I love money like everybody else, but I don't love having a sore pussy. I think I'd have to log off early if it got to the point where I'm getting nothing but penetration private shows. Either that, or stay in public chat for a little while and do more 5 Gold flashes.
I do enough different kinds of shows where often, I don't even mess with my pussy. That's why it's good to expand your niche of expertise if you can, give those parts a break!
TheBrownFox
04-17-2013, 06:04 AM
I do enough different kinds of shows where often, I don't even mess with my pussy. That's why it's good to expand your niche of expertise if you can, give those parts a break!
Luckily, my private shows aren't always about the guy wanting dildo play. Sometimes they just wanna do cam-to-cam (which I love), and the nakedness with oil is enough for them. I do have a regular on there who I know always wants toy play. But some of those times, I'll just use my Pocket Rocket Plus vibrator instead of my glass dildo.
MFC is the only site where just about ALL the private shows, the guy wants toy play.
On ImLive (haven't bothered with that site lately though) I hardly ever have to get out my toy.
kittykrane
04-17-2013, 06:24 AM
But there are days when pussy play is all some want and days when I get nothing but closet cocksuckers, CEI, and watch me on cam bb....it all balances out nicely :)
laurielegs
04-21-2013, 04:16 PM
I'd rather work back to back at high rates :P
So would I. Any tips on how to accomplish that? :)
I'm here to update - have had to go back down to 4.99 to get any shows at all. Not a happy camper.
It's not THAT low I know but after charging way higher for months its a disappointment when I check my stats. I just can't take any more tiny paychecks so had to go back down again. It's the only thing that seems to be working (and honestly its not bringing that many shows but at least it's something).
temptingmodel
04-21-2013, 04:28 PM
Exact same boat bb :( but they are coming .. It is what it is
so would i. Any tips on how to accomplish that? :)
i'm here to update - have had to go back down to 4.99 to get any shows at all. Not a happy camper.
It's not that low i know but after charging way higher for months its a disappointment when i check my stats. I just can't take any more tiny paychecks so had to go back down again. It's the only thing that seems to be working (and honestly its not bringing that many shows but at least it's something).
TheBrownFox
04-21-2013, 04:31 PM
So would I. Any tips on how to accomplish that? :)
I'm here to update - have had to go back down to 4.99 to get any shows at all.
I was curious what the increments are in the rate options, so I took a look. After $4.99, there's $5.04 and $5.09. LOL. $5.04? Weird. :P
I'm at $5.99, but I might actually see what things are like at $5.04 or $5.09 since those prices round to $5. I'm not sure what I'll do.
Missymissdemeanour
04-22-2013, 04:26 PM
I just put my rates up to 5.99 and 6.99 so we will see what happens. Not had any complaints, had a pvt a few excs, decent lengths. I'm happy tonight :)
Missymissdemeanour
04-25-2013, 08:18 AM
I just put my rates up to 5.99 and 6.99 so we will see what happens. Not had any complaints, had a pvt a few excs, decent lengths. I'm happy tonight :)
I know it's only been a few days but I wish I had done this sooner lol. Deffinately getting more pvt's and exc's and they are lasting a lot longer! No one has complained yet either!
Missymissdemeanour
04-25-2013, 08:19 AM
WTF!!! Double/triple/quadruple posted lmao
Missymissdemeanour
04-25-2013, 08:19 AM
I know it's only been a few days but I wish I had done this sooner lol. Deffinately getting more pvt's and exc's and they are lasting a lot longer! No one has complained yet either!
Missymissdemeanour
04-25-2013, 08:22 AM
WTF is a data base error?? it made me make all those duplicate posts honest, I wasn't bragging or anything ;)
Graceface
07-23-2013, 12:41 PM
I don't give a shit if other models are being cheap. The high spenders will spend more time in my room.
^This. I don't have two shits to give about what other models are charging. I put on a damn good show, spend a ton of money on make up, clothes, waxing, etc. and I'll raise my rates every time I get the chance.
Some days I want to tattoo, "I AM NOT A CHARITY" on my forehead.
CurvyWinona
09-07-2013, 04:16 PM
Here is an example of my work from yesterday - only 5 sessions and several gold tips. YOU GIRLS CAN RAISE THE RATES!!! I took a nice break after the exclusive and then came back on for some more monies.
It does not happen like that everyday, but I get that a lot and it is very nice. Build new regulars at new higher rates, girls! You just have to give it a try.. AND give it some time, too!
p.s.
Those 2 minutes guys can add up!!! Especially for on a hell of SLOW DAY ever on SM.
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SillyCamgirl
09-08-2013, 10:18 AM
Dang girl, that screen shot made me wetter than any customer ever has. I charge $5.99/6.99 and do well for a new girl. May I ask if you do anything different in exclusive than in premium? I'm curious because I've been wondering if my exclusive rate should be even higher.
CurvyWinona
09-08-2013, 02:33 PM
Not really much different in exclusive. Some guys just don't want to share the cam girl with others in the privates, so exclusives it is. I will make guys take me to exclusive if they want more unique shows like light bdsm or fetish. Most of times I don't even ask them to take me to exclusive, it's up to them. Try raise your exclusive rate by several dollars more than private and see how it goes! :)
ScarletSage
09-24-2013, 01:09 PM
I'm writing here both to "up" this thread and also to beg you girls to change my mind about lowering my rates on AW. I really feel that if I lowered at least my group rate i could do better but only because other girls are cheaper :/ I wish there was a magical way to set up a minimum fee, at least a pound...
I may give lower fee a try but then I'll be anxious calculating all the money I'd be earnig if I didn't lowered my fees. Arghh.
seicento
09-24-2013, 01:40 PM
I'm writing here both to "up" this thread and also to beg you girls to change my mind about lowering my rates on AW. I really feel that if I lowered at least my group rate i could do better but only because other girls are cheaper :/ I wish there was a magical way to set up a minimum fee, at least a pound...
I may give lower fee a try but then I'll be anxious calculating all the money I'd be earnig if I didn't lowered my fees. Arghh.
I have the same problem with my aw price .It used to be low,because all the europeans are cheap.I dont want to be a cheap cam-whore anymore,Its bothering me that I have to compete with 0,6 /min models doing ANYTHING for that price. My price never been that low but if I set up my price over 1 credit per min I get nothing.In my opinion I deserve at least 2 credits per minute in private,but how to stop being cheap when raising price brought me nothing?Im 1.3/pvt now and not happy with it ,I wish aw would set a minimum of 1 credit instead of 0.6.If u are in the UK dont lower it,u have chances getting privates at a high price ,if u are european,its hard!I would like to know how to deal with low prices I see there!No need to mention that I ve seen a lot models playing in free chat ,when nudity isnt allowed,no wonder that I get a lot of "sho tits bb".Robots charging 0.6 per min are everywhere and it seems they are also in pvt all the time!
ScarletSage
09-24-2013, 01:57 PM
I lowered my group to .99, just to raise my exposure, and for a side money. I only do regular masturbation there anyways.
But I'm sticking with my 1.99 private because it really affects my mood to be doing whatever they ask for a lower fee.It's mostly silent there with this rate but when someone came in and take me private for ages, i see that it's way better :)
DaddyslilHeaven
09-24-2013, 02:39 PM
Thank you to everyone for the inspiration, motivation, and encouragement on raising me prices. I am on ImLive and I changed my rate to $3.80 although I have only been on there twice and I am about to start on Streamate tonight & I am at $3.99/4.99. A little nervous, but you all have been great and I'm going to make sure to let my confidence and smile shine BRIGHT!!! xoxoxoxoxo
ScarletSage
09-24-2013, 03:03 PM
Thank you to everyone for the inspiration, motivation, and encouragement on raising me prices. I am on ImLive and I changed my rate to $3.80 although I have only been on there twice and I am about to start on Streamate tonight & I am at $3.99/4.99. A little nervous, but you all have been great and I'm going to make sure to let my confidence and smile shine BRIGHT!!! xoxoxoxoxo
If your connection is good enough to carry you on first two pages on streamate, don't even mention the imlive, lol. Good luck on your new start!
CatBBW
03-02-2014, 07:05 AM
I have to say, I do find it very frustrating and irritating when I see the thousands of girls on AW charging .60 and .90 credits per minute. They've brought the whole industry down.
This is most likely down to their "managers" setting their profiles and rates for them. You can often spot the ones who are with the same "manager", as the photos are taken in the same room, or with the same background, often with the same clothes, and all with similar names. Of course, the paying custies all too often don't know or care about this, as long as they're getting a 'good deal' and a bit of pussy for their pound (£), and makes the other ladies seem expensive in comparison.
smaddy
03-02-2014, 07:50 AM
I really don't understand how the guys on SM seem to have no problem paying 3.99/4.99 a minute yet they can't chip $6 for a 6 minute goldshow... or a $1 a minute in general. I mean c'mon it's 1/4 of the price!
ladyjalyn
03-02-2014, 08:34 AM
Because there is 4 types of guys... 1.Gold show guys-let me get off as cheap as I can 2.PVT guys-they mostly never join any gold show, since they are looking for attention and can afford pvt. 3.Guys who will do pvt and gold shows if they want to. 4.freeloaders, trolls who run from gold show room to gold show room hopping they will get just enough jerk off material in free chat...
I really don't understand how the guys on SM seem to have no problem paying 3.99/4.99 a minute yet they can't chip $6 for a 6 minute goldshow... or a $1 a minute in general. I mean c'mon it's 1/4 of the price!
SoloDesire
08-26-2016, 08:45 AM
I'm reviving this thread because I think it needs to be read. I'm noticing a trend with the slowness on Streamate (and other) cam sites lately...that girls are lowering their prices and doing too much for too little. Reading through this thread again has really given me the confidence to not only raise my prices, but to also SLOW DOWN in my private shows and stop showing too much too soon!
When you think about it, these guys are getting to see us completely naked in (usually) less than 3-4 minutes. Meaning they are only paying on average less than $20 ($7 in our pocket)to see us NUDE! From now on, I vow to stop getting naked so quick in group shows. I will tease the hell outta them and drag out my shows so that they are paying what I feel is worth it. There is so much more to me and my show than just being naked. I have so many assets and talents to show off before showing my pussy or asshole.
Let's keep these minute men from leaving so soon because they've already seen everything they want. Stop the short, cheap shows! I know not everyone feels the same and some of you have been doing this for ages, but I hope this is inspiration to someone :)
Now go get that $$$$
Halo88
08-26-2016, 09:37 AM
I'm reviving this thread because I think it needs to be read. I'm noticing a trend with the slowness on Streamate (and other) cam sites lately...that girls are lowering their prices and doing too much for too little. Reading through this thread again has really given me the confidence to not only raise my prices, but to also SLOW DOWN in my private shows and stop showing too much too soon!
When you think about it, these guys are getting to see us completely naked in (usually) less than 3-4 minutes. Meaning they are only paying on average less than $20 to see us NUDE! From now on, I vow to stop getting naked so quick in group shows. I will tease the hell outta them and drag out my shows so that they are paying what I feel is worth it. There is so much more to me and my show than just being naked. I have so many assets and talents to show off before showing my pussy or asshole.
Let's keep these minute men from leaving so soon because they've already seen everything they want. Stop the short, cheap shows! I know not everyone feels the same and some of you have been doing this for ages, but I hope this is inspiration to someone :)
Now go get that $$$$
All of this plus stop selling videos for pennies. Thanks for reviving this thread!
CreativeName
08-26-2016, 09:41 AM
what do you consider "selling videos for pennies"?
I am new and have not yet dabbled in clip making so i am curious about clip making for my days I just am in too bad of a mood to be in front of people live on camera..
Bootsie
08-26-2016, 09:46 AM
I'm not thrilled to see this thread revived. Every camgirl sets their own rates. My prices would likely be what you consider "cheap". But they work for me. I decided that I would rather be cheap and busy all the time instead of expensive and waiting a lot in between shows. My income increased substantially when I lowered my prices. My low prices do not have anything to do with you, and if guys have the money to spend on you, they can. If they don't have enough for you, they can spend it on me. $20 for 3-4 minutes seems like a lot to me, and if you're only seeing $7 of it, then maybe the issue is more where you are camming than how low prices are. Perhaps if you saw more than 35% you wouldn't bash girls with lower prices.
SoloDesire
08-26-2016, 09:57 AM
I'm not thrilled to see this thread revived. Every camgirl sets their own rates. My prices would likely be what you consider "cheap". But they work for me. I decided that I would rather be cheap and busy all the time instead of expensive and waiting a lot in between shows. My income increased substantially when I lowered my prices. My low prices do not have anything to do with you, and if guys have the money to spend on you, they can. If they don't have enough for you, they can spend it on me. $20 for 3-4 minutes seems like a lot to me, and if you're only seeing $7 of it, then maybe the issue is more where you are camming than how low prices are. Perhaps if you saw more than 35% you wouldn't bash girls with lower prices.
How was I bashing anyone?! Sounds like you're getting a bit defensive. I never told anyone to raise their price...I said "I" decided to raise mine. My post was about taking my time in my shows and to stop getting naked so fast. More about performance than price per minute...but take it for what you want. Hopefully it was inspiring to some others who actually read my post.
EllieGold
08-26-2016, 10:20 AM
I was just thinking about this. It's not a matter of bashing anyone's prices, It's just reminding us to stay expensive. After all, we're luxury. We're not .99 cent item. I had many men tell me during my last gold show that $5 was pushing it for a 7 minute nude show where I spray breast milk. Time to halt to brakes there! We shouldn't ever listen to these cheap bungholes and cater to them. After all, if they want my attention, they can gladly pay my $6.99 rate.
When you break it down here as follows:
What can $5 buy you in America?
$5 barely affords you a meal at McDonalds
$5 barely affords you a cup of coffee at Starbucks
$5 can't fill your gas tank
$5 is handed to panhandlers
$5 was a tiny amount compared to the $20 weekly allowance I got at age 16 in 2004...
The idea of a gold show was very simple. Everyone chips in, we have a show. $5 x 20 men = $100. EASY. At least it used to be. Now we're getting men that feel like for $5 they should get a pussy/anal show with free videos. Is $5 (your cut is maybe $1.50+). A whole dollar and 50 cents! That's what made me stop doing gold shows. We're already getting such a low percentage anyway. Now guys don't even want to fork over $5 for a gold show. Maybe SM should have followed suit like Clips4Sale where we have a minimum per min we can charge and we couldn't undercut other peoples prices? Because we ALL deserve to be paid fair accordingly because we're seeing 30-35% depending on if you're with a studio. I know some models get much, much less though. This isn't insulting those who are choosing to go cheaper, this is sticking up for all models by saying we need to teach them that if they are going to get a $0-2 gold show, they should stop bossing us around and treat us like the fucking queens that we are....
Halo88
08-26-2016, 10:23 AM
$20 for 3-4 minutes seems like a lot to me.
$20 isn't a lot when it comes to live adult entertainment. We are a luxury service, and guys who can't afford it can fuck off.
Erika_Xstacy
08-26-2016, 10:32 AM
Lol I was thinking about this thread when I lowered mine a few weeks ago
I was like maaaaan watch someone revive this thread soon :D
My fuckery didn't last long w lower rates
DeepThoughts
08-26-2016, 10:46 AM
I say raise your Indy rates! Way too many girls offering Skype shows for way the fuck less then they would offer the same show on a bigbox site. I realize you get a bigger cut but that doesnt mean your should charge less! Charge the same and make a bigger cut!!!
Bootsie
08-26-2016, 11:08 AM
TBH I don't see myself as a luxury item. I see myself as a regular purchase, like a Friday night Pizza Hut. I guess it just depends on where you market yourself and how you work. And my Skype rate is half what I charge on SM. Why? Because I keep more than double the $. I don't think raising your rates is the right choice for everyone, and I'm a bit sick of it being pushed as the solution to lower earnings and such. My earnings were meh, I lowered my rates, and now I don't need to think about leaving camming for a vanilla job. It's an individual choice IMO.
hyori
08-26-2016, 11:27 AM
Walmart sucks but their retail sales formula works. Appeal to the masses and be all about how many you sell rather than focusing on the singular sale. This works with models who have a large following. Combine this with some kind of extreme show that you can tolerate/stomach and it's likely you'll go viral. Of course, you will have to face the consequences.
For those who are more niche and offer a more unique/fetish/alternative/goth/inked etc. or who wish to remain low key then the goal is to charge more for a rare product. Or you can go on "sale" to give the lowest common denominator a taste of what it's like to experience a rare luxury.
Are you happy with your earnings in the end? Is your self esteem healthy? That's all that matters.
Erika_Xstacy
08-26-2016, 12:32 PM
TBH I don't see myself as a luxury item. I see myself as a regular purchase, like a Friday night Pizza Hut. I guess it just depends on where you market yourself and how you work. And my Skype rate is half what I charge on SM. Why? Because I keep more than double the $. I don't think raising your rates is the right choice for everyone, and I'm a bit sick of it being pushed as the solution to lower earnings and such. My earnings were meh, I lowered my rates, and now I don't need to think about leaving camming for a vanilla job. It's an individual choice IMO.
GIRL! YOU ARE EVERY BIT OF A LUXURY NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHARGE! YOU ARE A WOMAN, YOU ARE A GODDESS, YOU ARE ENVIED BY OTHER WOMEN THAT DONT HAVE THE GUTS TO ACT OUT THINGS WE DO IN THEIR OWN BEDROOM.
WOMAN... YOU ARE A LUXURY. Whomever invests one penny in you sees you as a luxury. This shit doesnt just happen naturally with other women.
I am honestly in shock you dont think of yourself as a luxury and that breaks my heart, all of us are a luxury item. We have a price tag for what others do for free ninety free.
More than one model has told me she doent feel like shes luxury or exotic, sexual or anything that we do daily, its bc it comes so natural to us, it is easy to not feel like a luxury.
Pizza Hut my motherfucking ass smh girl. lol if I was sitting next to you, we might be in a argument. In the most loving way pop you on the head and ask you wtf r thinking?
I dont fuss about rates. I know what it takes to cover my ass, i give no fucks what others are doing as long as you are covering your ass.
Hugs BB! :)
audritwo
08-26-2016, 12:38 PM
GIRL! YOU ARE EVERY BIT OF A LUXURY NO MATTER WHAT YOU CHARGE! YOU ARE A WOMAN, YOU ARE A GODDESS, YOU ARE ENVIED BY OTHER WOMEN THAT DONT HAVE THE GUTS TO ACT OUT THINGS WE DO IN THEIR OWN BEDROOM.
WOMAN... YOU ARE A LUXURY.
THISSSSSSSSSsssssfsSsdgds
pixiepower329
08-26-2016, 01:03 PM
For me, I do not know nor understand why, but regardless of what rate I charge, my % in paid chat on SM stays pretty static (Between 15-25%). Its that way whether I charge 1.99/3.99 or 4.99/6.99.
So in my particular case... fuck it.. may as well maximize earnings. Now, if I could drop rates and watch my percentage skyrocket, I might look at things differently.
anonymous camgirl
08-26-2016, 01:15 PM
Haha I raised mine to $7.99/$9.99.... I was $1 cheaper .. but fuck it!.. I am not happy this month has left me broken, depressed and dreading my future.. yes that bad and now I am on the verge of a nervous breakdown.. because of these fucking piece of shits.. if they don't behave my personal life doesn't go well!.. so I am sticking with my higher rates for now.... I also noticed not as many 30 second peepers..
I'm reviving this thread because I think it needs to be read. I'm noticing a trend with the slowness on Streamate (and other) cam sites lately...that girls are lowering their prices and doing too much for too little. Reading through this thread again has really given me the confidence to not only raise my prices, but to also SLOW DOWN in my private shows and stop showing too much too soon!
When you think about it, these guys are getting to see us completely naked in (usually) less than 3-4 minutes. Meaning they are only paying on average less than $20 ($7 in our pocket)to see us NUDE! From now on, I vow to stop getting naked so quick in group shows. I will tease the hell outta them and drag out my shows so that they are paying what I feel is worth it. There is so much more to me and my show than just being naked. I have so many assets and talents to show off before showing my pussy or asshole.
Let's keep these minute men from leaving so soon because they've already seen everything they want. Stop the short, cheap shows! I know not everyone feels the same and some of you have been doing this for ages, but I hope this is inspiration to someone :)
Now go get that $$$$
anonymous camgirl
08-26-2016, 01:31 PM
same.. so why bother charging less..
For me, I do not know nor understand why, but regardless of what rate I charge, my % in paid chat on SM stays pretty static (Between 15-25%). Its that way whether I charge 1.99/3.99 or 4.99/6.99.
So in my particular case... fuck it.. may as well maximize earnings. Now, if I could drop rates and watch my percentage skyrocket, I might look at things differently.
anonymous camgirl
08-26-2016, 01:36 PM
I am a middle aged fat, emotional woman charging $7.99 / $9.99 per min.. I earned it from years of dealing with MEN and being a camgirl for 14 yrs.. so yea!.,.. believe it and it will be.
TBH I don't see myself as a luxury item. I see myself as a regular purchase, like a Friday night Pizza Hut. I guess it just depends on where you market yourself and how you work. And my Skype rate is half what I charge on SM. Why? Because I keep more than double the $. I don't think raising your rates is the right choice for everyone, and I'm a bit sick of it being pushed as the solution to lower earnings and such. My earnings were meh, I lowered my rates, and now I don't need to think about leaving camming for a vanilla job. It's an individual choice IMO.
audritwo
08-26-2016, 01:45 PM
Girl, you aint fat. You are VOLUMPTIOUS!
I was just thinking about this. It's not a matter of bashing anyone's prices, It's just reminding us to stay expensive. After all, we're luxury. We're not .99 cent item. I had many men tell me during my last gold show that $5 was pushing it for a 7 minute nude show where I spray breast milk. Time to halt to brakes there! We shouldn't ever listen to these cheap bungholes and cater to them. After all, if they want my attention, they can gladly pay my $6.99 rate.
When you break it down here as follows:
What can $5 buy you in America?
$5 barely affords you a meal at McDonalds
$5 barely affords you a cup of coffee at Starbucks
$5 can't fill your gas tank
$5 is handed to panhandlers
$5 was a tiny amount compared to the $20 weekly allowance I got at age 16 in 2004...
The idea of a gold show was very simple. Everyone chips in, we have a show. $5 x 20 men = $100. EASY. At least it used to be. Now we're getting men that feel like for $5 they should get a pussy/anal show with free videos. Is $5 (your cut is maybe $1.50+). A whole dollar and 50 cents! That's what made me stop doing gold shows. We're already getting such a low percentage anyway. Now guys don't even want to fork over $5 for a gold show. Maybe SM should have followed suit like Clips4Sale where we have a minimum per min we can charge and we couldn't undercut other peoples prices? Because we ALL deserve to be paid fair accordingly because we're seeing 30-35% depending on if you're with a studio. I know some models get much, much less though. This isn't insulting those who are choosing to go cheaper, this is sticking up for all models by saying we need to teach them that if they are going to get a $0-2 gold show, they should stop bossing us around and treat us like the fucking queens that we are....
The idea of a gold show was very simple. Everyone chips in, we have a show. $5 x 20 men = $100. EASY. At least it used to be. Now we're getting men that feel like for $5 they should get a pussy/anal show with free videos.
THANK YOU.
I get it though. We all have to eat and when times are tough some of us are just trying to make it. Then it gets to the tipping point where so many have lowered their prices/ doing more for less that the site collapses on itself. Instead be trying to climb up and out. Guys will pay.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-26-2016, 02:44 PM
Its good to know I'm not the only one doing some reflecting on price points right now. Recently a few of you spoke about lowering your prices in one of the sucks threads and it got me thinking. I haven't done free chat all summer long because I told myself after last year I wasn't gonna put myself through that stress. So I got my ducks in a row early and started working on my indy stuff months ago. And it really paid off. I've done a lot of promoting this summer for myself and other ventures and I've seen some really exciting things. Cammodels are out there hustling more now than ever. No one is doing it like they used to. So many new faces who probably have zero idea of how things used to be, but are doing it. And doing it well. AND they're making it look FUN. It's really inspired me to be honest....I've done lost my train of thought. What was my point? Oh I went back to the Raise Your Rates thread to find this one amazing post about charging different rates through out the day. Well I didn't find it but I came across these wonderful gems instead. If you need to something to inspire you please take a look at what I found
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge!&p=2393183&viewfull=1#post2393183
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge!&p=2411474&viewfull=1#post2411474
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?169252-Raise-Your-Rates-Challenge!&p=2638871&viewfull=1#post2638871
Sometimes you have to go back to the old to remind yourself why you still do this, you know what I mean?
CatBBW
08-26-2016, 02:56 PM
TBH, I see Pizza Hut as a luxury. It's not human right (as in basic nutritious food & water) and is expensive for what it is - bread, cheese and tomato. Would you pay £20 for a large melted cheese toastie? Because that's basically what a pizza is. So yeah, we are as much (or more) a luxury product as a Pizza Hut delivery and should be thinking less in terms of "we are just Pizza Hut" and more in terms of "Yeah! We ARE Pizza Hut and WORTH IT!!"
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-26-2016, 03:18 PM
TBH, I see Pizza Hut as a luxury. It's not human right (as in basic nutritious food & water) and is expensive for what it is - bread, cheese and tomato. Would you pay £20 for a large melted cheese toastie? Because that's basically what a pizza is. So yeah, we are as much (or more) a luxury product as a Pizza Hut delivery and should be thinking less in terms of "we are just Pizza Hut" and more in terms of "Yeah! We ARE Pizza Hut and WORTH IT!!"
You have a good point there. Because some people only get Pizza Hut once or twice a month? It's still one of the more expensive pizza chains around. So from the mind of the consumer, let's say men who buy camshows right now. Pizza Hut, A six pack of good imported beer and a camshow on payday is considered a luxury. This is where we're at now and days. But I'm not a pizza type chick. I like to think I'm on par with The ChartHouse or Bonefish Grill at least. Men who pay for seafood understand value. Are we still talking about pussy or what? I'm getting hungry.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
08-26-2016, 03:28 PM
I can kind of relate to this, from my own perspective. I don't really see myself as a "luxury" item either, in the sense that I'm not a spoiled princess type, or a bitchy domme, or a smoking hot bombshell with a perfect body. I think those personas lend themselves to much higher rates. Personally, for my own "brand"/persona, I actually want to be seen as affordable, not expensive. But affordable does not necessarily mean "cheap."
I have zero incentive to raise my rates because I'm banking with the ones I have, even though they might be considered "cheap" to some girls. I have regulars who buy block sessions frequently, and I get new custies buying long shows all the time. My income reassures me that my rates are in the right place. I don't want to suddenly be more expensive, then risk losing those existing customers (or hearing them complain), and have to hustle all new ones.
Edited to add: With all of that said, I do agree with Solo's initial thread-revival post, in that we should be aiming to tease longer and draw out the length of our shows. But that doesn't necessarily have anything to do with what you charge.
YES she had good intentions I feel when she revived this thread. And Bootsie I know you have great intentions as well are and are caring member of StripperWeb. Please do not take offense to those who say raise. At the end of the day you know what you need to do to get it done. But we should at least listen and think on what the other person is saying. The conversation on rates doesn't have to be so divisive.
sexysusie
08-26-2016, 03:42 PM
If you're used to earning $7 per hour or whatever from some shitty job, or you're fresh out of school with no real work experience, then earning $10+ per hour is going to seem amazing to you. $20 is going to seem incredible. And $30+, well fuck that's going to blow your socks off. So some girls DO feel like they're banking on those numbers, because they've never seen that sort of money before. I totally get it.
What they don't understand is that they can make so much more! And THAT is why they should raise their rates. It isn't down to looks, or equipment, or lighting, or expertise, or whether you have modelled/ done porn etc in the past, or even down to how many social media followers you have. All that can help but it doesn't MAKE you the money.. YOU do!
Still, there is no getting through to some people. They have to figure it out for themselves.
anonymous camgirl
08-26-2016, 04:54 PM
I was that girl!.. I was happy to make anything over $9 an hour.. I was raising 2 kids off of that.. so yea .. but then I got used to making $30 an hour.. and now that's not enough.. now $40 an hour is my norm and I get pissy if I don't make that!.... I want $50 an hour now.. I mean after 14 yrs in this business!.. think about it!.. I started off camming 14 yrs ago and I was averaging $10 an hour.. and now I am trying to average $40 an hour for all my hard work over the years.. just like any job or career.. I busted my ass for years.. And to think it would be for nothing? NO WAY!.. The way I am feeling this month I want to quit.. working towards my goal for the future seems futile this month.. .. But I have been doing cam for 14 yrs to get OUT of cam..
If you're used to earning $7 per hour or whatever from some shitty job, or you're fresh out of school with no real work experience, then earning $10+ per hour is going to seem amazing to you. $20 is going to seem incredible. And $30+, well fuck that's going to blow your socks off. So some girls DO feel like they're banking on those numbers, because they've never seen that sort of money before. I totally get it.
What they don't understand is that they can make so much more! And THAT is why they should raise their rates. It isn't down to looks, or equipment, or lighting, or expertise, or whether you have modelled/ done porn etc in the past, or even down to how many social media followers you have. All that can help but it doesn't MAKE you the money.. YOU do!
Still, there is no getting through to some people. They have to figure it out for themselves.
anonymous camgirl
08-26-2016, 04:56 PM
Bonefish grill.. one of my fav's !... hahaha.. you are right though.. still like pizza hut!.. but if I am not feeling to lazy I prefer the authentic Italian pizza down the street .. lmao
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You have a good point there. Because some people only get Pizza Hut once or twice a month? It's still one of the more expensive pizza chains around. So from the mind of the consumer, let's say men who buy camshows right now. Pizza Hut, A six pack of good imported beer and a camshow on payday is considered a luxury. This is where we're at now and days. But I'm not a pizza type chick. I like to think I'm on par with The ChartHouse or Bonefish Grill at least. Men who pay for seafood understand value. Are we still talking about pussy or what? I'm getting hungry.