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sexysusie
01-24-2017, 03:35 AM
The current title is kinda off-puttingly inflammatory.
It's meant to be and it should be. Too many girls charge WAY TOO LOW FOR NO REASON!! They need to read every post in this thread and never, ever ask again if they 'need to' lower their rates ;)
Glamourmilf
01-24-2017, 08:48 AM
^I'm on SM
One time I bumped it up to 6.99/9.99 for 2 days. I averaged $50 an hour, a slight drop, and although I made BANK in paidchat I was also sitting in freechat way too much for my liking (freechat SUX).
And I had much less multi-custie privates at that price, which meant I never got awesome $ boosts from doing one show. Multi-custie privates is the TITS, let me tell you. The absolute tits. You can never guess quite how much you're raking in and it's always a pleasant surprise. It was a fad on SW for a while to have Excl set lower than Prem to avoid 60-sec peeper bastards, but let momma tell you right now, it is not worth it. I've made peace with being freepeeped, because the occasional slip-up and the God blessed multi-custie pvts more than make up for it.
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This, and ALL of this is how I feel.
I keep my prices low, because I can't stand to be in free chat!
I can perform till the cows come home,:cow:, but sitting in free chat kills my soul, and makes me want to quit camming.
I need to make a certain amount each day, and the '\compound interest ' effect of having multiple guys in premium and the steady flow of exclusives helps me achieve that.
IvyRose
01-24-2017, 09:21 AM
Evolution of me as a camgirl
2012-2016
*I started in 2011 on sm, with 2.99 pvt-4.99 excl. I had to close my account, and wait a half year to start fresh (I signed up through a studio accidently and they took 15% of my paycheck)
2012 dec (oops) 3,49 pvt - 5,99 excl
47197
2012 nov 2,99 pvt - 3 ,99 excl
47198
2013 jul 4,99 pvt - 8,99 excl
47199
2013 dec 7,99 pvt - 9,00 excl
47200
2014 aug 8,99 pvt - 10,99 excl
47201
2015 jan 9,99 pvt - 11,99 excl
47202
2015 jun 9,99 pvt - 19,99 excl
47203
2016 feb 9,99 pvt - 16,99 excl
47204
2016 jul 9,99 pvt - 16,99 excl
47205
I tried to randomly take some weeks from those years in which i worked several days so you can compare better.
you can see the paychecks made by ranging from 2,99-19,99 a minute (how long it took me to earn it and % in payed chat)
I hope it is visible bec some files are kinda large, I hope the numbers are still visible... if not I just tried opening it up in a new tab and relarging it which helped a lot)
I had a couple of times I tried to lower my prices, but it never payed out more, in my case, when I did so
Whenever I upped I stayed on that prices untill I upped again (I rarely went down, maybe 1-2 times when I first started out.. and that times went I went back to 16,99 after charging 19,99 for a month)
Do whatever makes you most, but dont give up if the money doesnt follw through immediatly
My clients had to get used to my higher prices too, and I had to build up a entirely new customerbase
The roughest spot for me to be in was 4,99-6,99 when I went higher it became easier again. So do not give up when you hit a rough spot, it doesnt mean that you cannot go even higher
Charge whatever you are comfortable with, but never hold back because of fear of rejection. Look at the numbers and stay positive.
I never had big longlasting gangbangs in my pvts even at lower rates, if I would have I may not have made this change
PS I offer fetish and non fetish shows. I do not offer (or very limited analshows), I dont use big toys (Unless you count my strapon I use on my custies).
I think my customers are 50% non fetish 50% fetish
the higher I went the less I had to use toys, but maybe that also comes with experience. The higher I went the more findom and fetish customers I got. Also less demanding customers
When doing fetishshows they are based a lot on worshipment, cuckolding, sph, edging, findom, strapon and hypno with body
When I started out my cutomers where 80% non fetish 20% fetish I dont know if it had to do with experience or rates or both combined. I do know I was more insecure and less Godesslike because of my attitude
sexysusie
01-24-2017, 12:23 PM
Evolution of me as a camgirl
2012-2016
*I started in 2011 on sm, with 2.99 pvt-4.99 excl. I had to close my account, and wait a half year to start fresh (I signed up through a studio accidently and they took 15% of my paycheck)
2012 dec (oops) 3,49 pvt - 5,99 excl
47197
2012 nov 2,99 pvt - 3 ,99 excl
47198
2013 jul 4,99 pvt - 8,99 excl
47199
2013 dec 7,99 pvt - 9,00 excl
47200
2014 aug 8,99 pvt - 10,99 excl
47201
2015 jan 9,99 pvt - 11,99 excl
47202
2015 jun 9,99 pvt - 19,99 excl
47203
2016 feb 9,99 pvt - 16,99 excl
47204
2016 jul 9,99 pvt - 16,99 excl
47205
I tried to randomly take some weeks from those years in which i worked several days so you can compare better.
you can see the paychecks made by ranging from 2,99-19,99 a minute (how long it took me to earn it and % in payed chat)
I hope it is visible bec some files are kinda large, I hope the numbers are still visible... if not I just tried opening it up in a new tab and relarging it which helped a lot)
I had a couple of times I tried to lower my prices, but it never payed out more, in my case, when I did so
Whenever I upped I stayed on that prices untill I upped again (I rarely went down, maybe 1-2 times when I first started out.. and that times went I went back to 16,99 after charging 19,99 for a month)
Do whatever makes you most, but dont give up if the money doesnt follw through immediatly
My clients had to get used to my higher prices too, and I had to build up a entirely new customerbase
The roughest spot for me to be in was 4,99-6,99 when I went higher it became easier again. So do not give up when you hit a rough spot, it doesnt mean that you cannot go even higher
Charge whatever you are comfortable with, but never hold back because of fear of rejection. Look at the numbers and stay positive.
I never had big longlasting gangbangs in my pvts even at lower rates, if I would have I may not have made this change
PS I offer fetish and non fetish shows. I do not offer (or very limited analshows), I dont use big toys (Unless you count my strapon I use on my custies).
I think my customers are 50% non fetish 50% fetish
the higher I went the less I had to use toys, but maybe that also comes with experience. The higher I went the more findom and fetish customers I got. Also less demanding customers
When doing fetishshows they are based a lot on worshipment, cuckolding, sph, edging, findom, strapon and hypno with body
When I started out my cutomers where 80% non fetish 20% fetish I dont know if it had to do with experience or rates or both combined. I do know I was more insecure and less Godesslike because of my attitude
I just wet myself at your hourly in 2016 Ivy! Omg. I don't work sm too much but I'm going to go on more, build up a few more custies then whack up those rates even higher x
DonaDiabla
01-24-2017, 12:24 PM
Actually, SexySusie, you are correct! There has been so many girls charging below 99 cents for camming and it is kind of sad! But we have this thread and cam models can see that they are worth more than that :)
It's meant to be and it should be. Too many girls charge WAY TOO LOW FOR NO REASON!! They need to read every post in this thread and never, ever ask again if they 'need to' lower their rates ;)
IvyRose
01-24-2017, 12:35 PM
I just wet myself at your hourly in 2016 Ivy! Omg. I don't work sm too much but I'm going to go on more, build up a few more custies then whack up those rates even higher x
I got even my own lazy ass motivated again crunching my numbers
I get demotivated way to quick when I am in pain or when they freechat is nagging and slow
Most of the time I do popup onlinetime (I do not plan my online time and I do not have set houres.. so it is quit hard for custies to find me)
I am going to make a set schedule this week and keep that ass in gear
xxxGothBarbie
01-24-2017, 02:38 PM
Ya I'm def getting my ass in gear this week also. I'm gonna bump mine up a dollor or two more than what it is now & see what happens. I'm a very pretty girl with a sexy sultry voice & I know I'm worth it , I'm like Glamourmilf tho I hate sitting in free chat with crickets too much sometimes bleh :( soul sucking.
hyori
01-24-2017, 07:48 PM
I've been offering guaranteed gold shows for $20 and the guy who starts it gets 10 vids along with the show. It works out much better, I don't feel shafted if I don't meet the gold show goal. I keep it short at 6 minutes with $1 buy in, $99 goal, 3 minutes until start. Most of the time I get 3/4 of the way in 3 minutes!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-26-2017, 10:21 AM
I finally changed the name after a few pm's where people kindly offered suggestions and offered some insight as to how the previous name may come off a a little to abrasive for some. Also its probably not a good idea to have a thread that openly shames people for making decisions that directly impacts their lives, not mine. It's a great discussion that needs to be had I feel but please lets be kind and not throw punches at those who found offense to the original title. I'm sure we're all better than that? ;D
hyori
01-26-2017, 11:40 AM
Moderating a forum is a tough job.
malika29
01-26-2017, 01:28 PM
I am going to argue that those who choose to set cheap rates inpacts each and everyone of us as it cheapens the industry as a whole and as we are the ones setting then standards then it is our right to ensure that others are setting a similar standard to ensure the integraty of the industry is kept. If some get a bit butthurt as others with years of industry experience and knowledge point out that they are just being plain cheap (and clearly not offering value for money, which is a whole other topic) then they may want to reasess being in this industry if they cannot understand the difference between constructive (which this topic clearly is as no one has ever been personally called out on this issue) and personal criticism However i digress.
Anyway moving on from my little rant above, i would also like to include membership prices in this topic if that is ok? I have seen stupid prices and sadly nothing bar mine that i am currently in the process setting as above the 30 bucks per month. That is before the sites take their cut. Some model have a huge amount of content on their subscriptions too so i do find it really disheartening to see some, including top models who have also toes in the porn sector, charging as little 8 bucks per month for a 12 month subscription! I mean really! Should the lowest we are taking home after cuts etc should be round the 20 mark. Or am i missing the mark completely on membership prices? Is it possible to see if we can get a challenge going for raising membership rates too?
hyori
01-26-2017, 01:36 PM
We can bitch and moan about low rates forever, it won't change anything. Living off grid seems to be the answer to everything.
EricaErotica
01-26-2017, 02:19 PM
I think the problem is that most people only work in a manner so that they can survive. They do not understand the notion of building wealth. Very few people have an abundant savings account. They live from paycheck to paycheck. I did that for 10 years working in Corporate America. I will never do that again. I will never have another person control how many hours I work and how much money I can earn.
To me the sole purpose for me to be in this industry is to amass wealth. If I am not saving $20,000 - $30,000 a year after all my taxes and living expenses are paid then I am doing something wrong. My hustle would be wack. So I price my services in the adult industry so that each year I am building that wealth. I plan on living very well when I retire and this industry is one of the few were I can literally plan what I want to earn and save each year. So for me pricing myself high and delivering nothing but high quality sexertainment is the only way to go.
heyho
01-26-2017, 03:57 PM
I really wish every model knew about SW/ACF. Before reading all the other models' much higher rates on this forum I was definitely cheap as hell. I trusted SM's default 2.49/3.49 and thought that was the average price, and if I raised it much higher I'd be way more expensive than other models and earn nothing. I'm so grateful to this thread and many others that helped me realise that men are, in fact, willing to pay a LOT more for pixel pussy! High rates can rock, and every model should know that.
Marina Starr
01-26-2017, 09:09 PM
I charge .99 cent for private and $1 for exclusive. I make bank ;D
Sayusayme
07-24-2017, 07:54 PM
Men don't like paying, period. Men like to feel like they are lowering a woman. That's why the girls on cam end up naked in free chat. Trying to out cheap eachother to get the cheapos to pay at all. Sure..if you are 18 and 100 lbs you can charge whatever you want to start but each of those performers rates become lower and lower til she's naked in free chat and not getting paid. At least it is safer than hooking.
Sayusayme
07-24-2017, 07:58 PM
I like the idea of splitting the day into 3 parts and charging more throughout the day. A way to keep some customers coming back
Snowy0Star
07-24-2017, 10:06 PM
Men don't like paying, period. Men like to feel like they are lowering a woman. That's why the girls on cam end up naked in free chat. Trying to out cheap eachother to get the cheapos to pay at all. Sure..if you are 18 and 100 lbs you can charge whatever you want to start but each of those performers rates become lower and lower til she's naked in free chat and not getting paid. At least it is safer than hooking.
Theres more girls keeping their clothes on then not. im 230 and made $80 in 3 hours on SM on Sunday wearing a tank top and undies and 40 on CB in that same time because i split CB and MFC so thats $120 in 3 hours .
minniesoporno
07-25-2017, 10:31 AM
I am going to argue that those who choose to set cheap rates inpacts each and everyone of us as it cheapens the industry as a whole and as we are the ones setting then standards then it is our right to ensure that others are setting a similar standard to ensure the integraty of the industry is kept. If some get a bit butthurt as others with years of industry experience and knowledge point out that they are just being plain cheap (and clearly not offering value for money, which is a whole other topic) then they may want to reasess being in this industry if they cannot understand the difference between constructive (which this topic clearly is as no one has ever been personally called out on this issue) and personal criticism However i digress.
Anyway moving on from my little rant above, i would also like to include membership prices in this topic if that is ok? I have seen stupid prices and sadly nothing bar mine that i am currently in the process setting as above the 30 bucks per month. That is before the sites take their cut. Some model have a huge amount of content on their subscriptions too so i do find it really disheartening to see some, including top models who have also toes in the porn sector, charging as little 8 bucks per month for a 12 month subscription! I mean really! Should the lowest we are taking home after cuts etc should be round the 20 mark. Or am i missing the mark completely on membership prices? Is it possible to see if we can get a challenge going for raising membership rates too?
It's one of the first rules in business. You can either be the most expensive or the cheapest. Then there is a middle group.
Everyone is an independent contractors majority do this work to barely survive and then there are few who do this work as a stepping stone to building wealth or even build a brand.
With the huge lack of money and business education out there. it's clear why the rates are all over the place and then you have to look at it not every cam model out there is actually working for themselves. So that tips the scale of what is being charged.
I remember starting out on cams I was 3.99 and 2.99 for 3 years straight. then I heard about Flirt4free charging 5.99 I asked I asked the man I was working for can we increase my rates. HE told me flat out no because your shows are not at that level. He controlled everything even my rates.
Cam sites is basically a giant market place. There are individual models and then models under a studio then models who are signed up under someone else and have no idea they have power to be independent and still work under who they are signed up with because. they are being lead blind.
So all we can do is keep our head down and charge what we are going to charge and hope we come out ahead.
I think the problem is that most people only work in a manner so that they can survive. They do not understand the notion of building wealth. Very few people have an abundant savings account. They live from paycheck to paycheck. I did that for 10 years working in Corporate America. I will never do that again. I will never have another person control how many hours I work and how much money I can earn.
To me the sole purpose for me to be in this industry is to amass wealth. If I am not saving $20,000 - $30,000 a year after all my taxes and living expenses are paid then I am doing something wrong. My hustle would be wack. So I price my services in the adult industry so that each year I am building that wealth. I plan on living very well when I retire and this industry is one of the few were I can literally plan what I want to earn and save each year. So for me pricing myself high and delivering nothing but high quality sexertainment is the only way to go.
It took me a long time to reach the point where my camming is just a job and I need to focus on creating a business that can operate without me and have my money being uses to create wealth. This only happens with awareness and self education.
I really wish every model knew about SW/ACF. Before reading all the other models' much higher rates on this forum I was definitely cheap as hell. I trusted SM's default 2.49/3.49 and thought that was the average price, and if I raised it much higher I'd be way more expensive than other models and earn nothing. I'm so grateful to this thread and many others that helped me realise that men are, in fact, willing to pay a LOT more for pixel pussy! High rates can rock, and every model should know that.
I increased my rates on cams and the guy are paying for it. If they want you and they are real about it they will pay for it. They can complain your expensive all you want but really they are complaining the cam site is expensive. You have nothing to do with it. So now when some guy says I am too expensive I let them the prices are not set by me. that way I end that topic and the guy can leave or buy.
RobynMathena
04-14-2019, 09:21 AM
It depends on every person and company, I think. Everybody can state the personal rate.
minniesoporno
04-14-2019, 09:33 AM
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QML7ol50GxID4WCaN0Cs7tCxoEgIeE8UBUd_fkppzhc/edit?usp=sharing
I update it from time to time, but honestly there are so many sites out there it's hard to keep track of the numbers.
sexysusie
04-14-2019, 11:38 AM
I've had a week of pure laziness and now feeling the pinch money wise.
SO tonight's plan -
I need only ONE guy to buy 10 mins with me at $10 per min to make $100, and that's doable by anyone. So i aim for 3 - 4 shows like that, a few content sales at average $10 each, and a couple of $20+ tributes and I'm set!
GirlWithAPlan
04-14-2019, 10:08 PM
I charge high rates out the gate. On imlive I started low, naturally. Get those five stars. Then, up I went.
I have men complain. I say, join my club. Or...ok this time I'll give you a discount code. Then I change my code after.
If they stay and spend a lot and leave ratings I'll add a note to give them codes IF they ask in the future.
If they spend not much, no code. Pay full price or get out.
Some days I'll lower my rate to literally chump change and open up the rate for chump change and only tease. Tell them I only so fetish for X AMT. Or I only do toys for X AMT. I build up cheap regs like that for when it's slow I'll tap into the cheap men. Then drain their credits. Then I'll surprise raise rates and go on. I have some who are like dogs waiting for a bone. "Omg I've been waiting for you to change because yesterday you were lower and I checked and you are higher today.". Yeah.....I do that when it's slow. Usually mid day when there's NO traffic because men with money are at work. But a cheap show gets a cheap show. Want more? Leave, I'll up my rate, return. Otherwise you get me naked slithering around. Take it or leave it.
I never lower rate on SM. Never. Ever.
caramelcraze
04-15-2019, 11:43 PM
upping my rates on sm! already did for indie and it has attracted a couple big fish. Aiming for higher hourly $. Getting sick of how much I have to push for so little already, so might as well push just as hard and make about the same even if my time in private is lower.