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shywebcamgirl
12-08-2011, 12:09 PM
I do plan on raising my exclusive price once I get a better internet connection soon. I am shelling out big money for it to get done. If it doesn't end up fixing the majority of technical problems I am having with SM after this, I am going to be beyond pissed.

Busygirl
12-08-2011, 12:38 PM
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WebDarling
12-08-2011, 12:46 PM
I don't agree with starting out at low prices, you should charge a lot from the beginning, and stay there. I made the mistake of charging low from the beginning.

If i learned something good it's this: the expensive, demanding girls are successful in this business, doesn't matter how they look, or if they speak English. You have to give out that expensive, luxury vibe from the beginning, there's no way to work yourself up to it slowly! silver doesn't change to diamond in this industry, you need to be diamond from the beginning.

Remember they pay for your image. What does your image tells them?

Take mfc fro example: i have a low score for working many hours without tips, now guys don't respect me, and tip me anymore because i,m no longer a diamond, i'm a trash working on the 3d page, where guys never tip. ( I'm really mad on mfc site because they never let you turn this around)

High tippers still visit my room and talk to me, but they go tip asp.. or amberc... instead. What does that tell you?????????????

I love not only this post, but the entire thread. It was really useful, because I've never LOWERED my prices at all, but I've never really raised them either :/ I've got them basically at the start-out rate for my sites, because I always thought that was "normal".

SybilVain
12-08-2011, 12:49 PM
I just wanted to add a few things, since some girls were wondering if they can charge more/should charge more, let me give you a (very basic) checklist of things that will give you more confidence in giving a good show for a minimal investment:
-first is, can you cater to a niche that will pay more? do you have epic boobs? do you know what to do with your feet? advertise that - specific fetishes pay off!
- do you have good cam and sound quality? cams are expensive but a basic asset you can't do without, but getting a good mic can cost you as little as 6$ - head over to a discount site like directron and upgrade.
-good toys? by good I mean are they safe for you and tire you less. I see discount glass toys for 10$ all the time, and I bought an awesome silicon vibe for 10$ just last week.
-You can charge premium easy if you look premium. By that I don't mean body, I mean taking care of your appearance. You can find basic makeup at your local drugstore... heck, wet n wild has good lipshades for 99 cents... a lash set goes for 5$ and all the jewelry guys keep complimenting me on, on cam you can't tell they're just baubles. Easier to ask for good prices when you look and feel like a million bucks.
-You don't need a million outfits, guys don't think like that. If you have a couple really hot ones they will beg you to wear them over and over again.

As for the issue at hand... its not the 2.99 prices that get my blood boiling. If gals prefer more privates for smaller fees, that's their hustle. I understand Isobel's hustle, because I use that situation as well - when I have a lot of guys talking and not buying, but one guy steals me away to private when I come back they compete for my time with money cause now they know I won't be there for them forever.
But lately I've been seeing fully private shows for less than 50 cents per minute being advertised - I'm not talking about cheap gold shows... talking about full 1on1 for those prices... And while the guys that will buy those are definitely not the guys coming to me, it makes me sad (ok, pissy) as it cheapens the profession. Everyone knows that while there are discounts here and there, you can't get lawyers, architects and engineers for less than X. Camgirls are one of those professions that cater to the "chosen few". Of course I'm just venting since I doubt any of those gals are here, if they did some research they'd see why getting *maybe* a macdonald meal out of an hour's work is downright dumb. There are lots of easier jobs paying that little...

MissKatie
12-08-2011, 01:17 PM
in case any members/customers are reading this:
Thank you guys! :)

That's a really good point! There are some really good customers out there, and if you find them, make sure you appreciate them and work hard for them. Don't lower your rates and don't compromise your standards, but DO give these gem customers the best show they've ever had every time they come back to you. Reply to their emails, use their name, remember things they like and things they tell you, and refer to that stuff when you talk to them. They're willing to pay your prices, they like you, hell they LOVE you! Keep hold of them because THESE are the regulars you want to build up.

And yes, thank you to these guys if you are reading;D

SarahTime
12-08-2011, 02:55 PM
Most members who pay for our shows, DO HAVE THE MONEY! They do! They would not be on a paid adult site if they did not... Never assume they dont have the money.. never never never.

And if they don't have the money..... they shouldn't be on Streamate annoying the hell out of girls like you and I.

That's what MFC is for.

Ha ha just joking!

But really.

TXCamgirl
12-08-2011, 05:03 PM
I charge 3.99$/4.99$ on SM and am happy where I am although I don't get many privates anymore since I started doing gold shows... but I am fine with that too. I only have to masturbate for 5 minutes every 20 minutes or so instead of the whole 20 minutes straight for the same price.

CandaceMoon
12-08-2011, 05:20 PM
Y'all make me wanna raise my prices !! :D lol

ManyRoses
12-08-2011, 05:40 PM
I charge 3.99$/4.99$ on SM and am happy where I am although I don't get many privates anymore since I started doing gold shows... but I am fine with that too. I only have to masturbate for 5 minutes every 20 minutes or so instead of the whole 20 minutes straight for the same price.

Agreed! I also agree with Isobel...I like to keep myself around $4 for pvt and $5 for exclusive...and I don't think that that is "cheap"!

Also - I started at the automatic rate for SM, and then slowly built it up, and had no problems with guys complaining. And I feel much more comfortable doing that then starting at a random "high" rate...I will keep upping my price slowly but surely until I notice my money start to go down instead of up. At that point, I will go back to the previous rate, and stick with that.

ElianaIsis
12-08-2011, 05:55 PM
I'm at 3.34/4.99. I want to raise my pvt until I get to 3.99, but I need a faster comp first so the HD symbol stays put, I think I need to play with my encoder settings a little bit cause I have the bit rate lowered.

Oh I started at 2.99/4.99. Had a couple of guys ask about the raise and I just explained I wasn't even making $1/min before and they thought it was really cool that I raised it after that. I also explained they could do blocks for a discount ;)

fallout_grrl
12-08-2011, 06:29 PM
I'm glad MFC has set prices so I don't have to deal with pricing drama, lol.

BustyAmeera
12-08-2011, 06:51 PM
Occupy cam girl prices! Raise them! Omg we should all be making 6 figures a year...

Raise them! Raise them! Raise them!

tashataboo
12-08-2011, 07:31 PM
What I found though is the guys who will pay 1.99 are not the same customer base who will pay 5.99.

I'd rather have those 5.99 customers because my shows are longer and they are much less demanding. Those are the guys who are not worrying about what they spend.

YES. YES. YES. This is the same in all areas of the sex industry. I've worked camming, escorted, and worked legal brothels in Nevada, USA. The guys who come in (brothels) and spend thousands are usually the easiest parties. Those who bargain shop for pussy and want the world for a couple of hundred are often the most demanding. Same for me when I cammed; just on a smaller scale.

At the same time though, I can't knock anyone for having low prices because when I was younger and my self esteem wasn't as developed I settled for less. I thought because I didn't have large boobs or because I was black that I couldn't charge as much as some other women. I was sadly mistaken. I learned that lesson after putting my body through quite a lot. You live you learn. Now I know.

We don't have to have fear based, scarcity type thinking. The money is out there. They will pay if you provide quality and are unique. Ask for what you really want. Believe it and you'll get it. May sound corny, but I found it to be soooo true.

whiteheat
12-08-2011, 08:15 PM
Sure, their choice but they are under-valuating the service the adult sites offer.
In other words they are saying " its ok to be cheap"
Its becoming a trend for new customers to see that Others charge Lower prices and question Our higher prices.
and having to defend yourself and explain yourself why u charge more its at least time consuming...


Instead of low priced girls making $150 and high priced girls making $450..
what about BOTH make $600

This is the point :)

Yeah, i get that!
but apparently they dont or havent realize yet.
what are you going to do about it?
well i guess since this section of SW has so many lurkers, i hope a good chunk of girls are reading this thread questioning their choices and open their eyes ;)

amiamour
12-08-2011, 08:31 PM
I charge $5.99 for private shows and I'm in one show right after another. I'm also pretty darn new. If a guy wants to be with YOU he will pay what YOU ask. You aren't selling a used car. We are giving them personal time with our beautiful, womanly bodies and they don't mind paying your rate. In fact, they will respect you more if you value what you offer and charge accordingly. If you price yourself cheap, they will agree with you and think you're "cheap". After all, you know yourself better than they do. So who are they to disagree? I still get looong private shows. And I've never been called a mean name or "show asshole, bb". Charge what you're worth.

This thread makes me want to up my rates again. Thanks for the post.

laurielegs
12-08-2011, 09:42 PM
Occupy cam girl prices! Raise them! Omg we should all be making 6 figures a year...

Raise them! Raise them! Raise them!

BustyAmeera, not sure if you were joking or not with this post but for a full time host who speaks good English, has quality equipment and lighting and puts on a kickass show, with the combination of clip sales, live video and perhaps a few other sources of passive income I absolutely see this as a goal. I do know a few chathosts who exceed 100K a year. It's a lot of work and a lot of hours, but really what biz that pays you that well is not going to take up a lot of time and work?

(I'm referring to those who consider this a business and commit full time hours to building that business).

I also think it's fine to do this part time for extra cash, but still if you are giving an HD video stream and offering a lot of value then you should not undervalue your service, for sure.

luscious sadie
12-08-2011, 09:47 PM
I raised my rate because of this thread and have been getting the same / more privates that end up being multi-person where the people who join in late stay longer.

work smarter, not harder!

neliana
12-08-2011, 09:52 PM
Everything said in this thread is so true! Seems like the higher my prices get , the better my cam customers get. Wish I had realized this earlier, I sold myself short back when I was stripping and escorting and I would have more $ saved up now if I had known I was worth more :( Hope some new girls see this and up their prices!

Lacy Luck
12-09-2011, 02:16 AM
I wish certain girls on MGF would stumble upon this thread and quit giving away 100 video deals for $1.

LusciousKatya
12-09-2011, 02:43 AM
Ummm yeah, so after reading this thread I decided that even tho I'm a newbie, I wasn't goin to sell myself short and I raised my prices from 2.99 pvt to 3.49 and 3.99 exclusive to 4.49 and I made my goal tonight in an 1 1/2. I hope and wish we all keep this in mind, WE ARE A LUXURY and yes, they (custies) do pay. BTW, I was treated like a princess tonight!

luscious sadie
12-09-2011, 03:53 AM
how do I raise my exclusive to more than 4.99 a minute? Do I have to wait a little while before I can do that? Before this thread I was 3.99/4.99 but I raised it to 4.49/4.99. I would like to raise it so it's 4.49/5.something.

WebDarling
12-09-2011, 03:57 AM
I wish certain girls on MGF would stumble upon this thread and quit giving away 100 video deals for $1.

Thank you so much for saying this!! Every single time I go through the offers blog and I see girls giving away all of their content for what seems like pennies I die a little inside. I sell a couple PHOTOS for $35. And I get five stars each time and the guys always tell me it was well worth it. I couldn't imagine giving ALL my content for $10 O_o

Crustyz
12-09-2011, 05:01 AM
A cam show is a LUXURY item, a one on one personalized fully interactive porn fantasy fulfillment service. it is NOT a hamburger or a lipstick. Guys who are looking to pay nothing go to free tube siteswhile the others come to US because they prefer a personalised experience.
I say this to myself all the time, and wonder why these moron freeloaders are trying to hassle us for free shows. lol

I'm always going to tell them now, "if you want free porn go to youporn."

Trix66
12-09-2011, 05:05 AM
Yup. Inspired by this thread, I jumped my premium rate up fifty cents to 3.99, and *surprise surprise* none of the guys who've been in premium with me before even seemed to notice and, in fact, the guys who never had were the sort who actually wanted me to take my time, and weren't in a hurry to stop the clock once they'd gotten off. Those are my fave kind of custies. I don't even mind doing research and preparation specifically for their requests, because they PAY.

I'm definitely going to send a message to support so I can go above 4.99, and see what I can get away with.

When I look at it, I speak English (creatively, with regard to the fact that I'm a performer); I'm in HD on a flawless connection; I have sound (and know to adjust the level so it's not squawky); I put effort into my makeup and outfits; I cater to kinks, fetishes, and roleplays; I'm near the top placement in my category, and I'm attractive and personable. I am the top shelf and there's no reason why I shouldn't be getting paid as such.

The inspiration I've received in this thread is what I come around here for :)

Thanks as always, ladies!

BustyAmeera
12-09-2011, 05:51 AM
Oh yes, I agree that with all jobs combined I could make 100k per year. I was speaking of cam only though. I do a lot. I have a customer service job, cam, sell clips, and some writing work. I am pretty sure I could make 6 figures if I can get everything a little more organized. But cam alone? That is possible too but I am not sure. But that would be nice :)


BustyAmeera, not sure if you were joking or not with this post but for a full time host who speaks good English, has quality equipment and lighting and puts on a kickass show, with the combination of clip sales, live video and perhaps a few other sources of passive income I absolutely see this as a goal. I do know a few chathosts who exceed 100K a year. It's a lot of work and a lot of hours, but really what biz that pays you that well is not going to take up a lot of time and work?

(I'm referring to those who consider this a business and commit full time hours to building that business).

I also think it's fine to do this part time for extra cash, but still if you are giving an HD video stream and offering a lot of value then you should not undervalue your service, for sure.

Sam38g
12-09-2011, 08:41 AM
Busty America-Anything is possible when you focus & work hard. :)

I have a dream board right infront of me off camera when I cam. It helps me double my money from what I was making. So instead of quiting when I have hit my goal, I keep going to see just how much more money I can make. Loving the results.

Smooches,
Sam

BustyAmeera
12-09-2011, 09:20 AM
Thanks Sam! I had a teacher who told us about the power of positive thinking. To imagine something, and you will just have it, and act as if it is already here. He also said to make a list of everything you want, and know you will have it. So thanks for reminding me. :-*



Busty America-Anything is possible when you focus & work hard. :)

I have a dream board right infront of me off camera when I cam. It helps me double my money from what I was making. So instead of quiting when I have hit my goal, I keep going to see just how much more money I can make. Loving the results.

Smooches,
Sam

IsobelWren
12-09-2011, 09:33 AM
LOL, arright arright already! I'm raising my rates. Only up to the next tier, but then next week I'll raise them again.

shywebcamgirl
12-09-2011, 09:33 AM
Busty America-Anything is possible when you focus & work hard. :)

I have a dream board right infront of me off camera when I cam. It helps me double my money from what I was making. So instead of quiting when I have hit my goal, I keep going to see just how much more money I can make. Loving the results.

Smooches,
Sam

That is freaking genius idea Sam! Thank you so much for sharing it.

amberose
12-09-2011, 11:07 AM
Sorry if this has already been addressed here, but what's a good starting price for a newbie on SM then (with HD video, sound, etc)? I was thinking about charging $2.99 at the beginning, then raising it when I get a little more experience or start to feel more comfortable/in the zone.

MissKatie
12-09-2011, 11:43 AM
how do I raise my exclusive to more than 4.99 a minute? Do I have to wait a little while before I can do that? Before this thread I was 3.99/4.99 but I raised it to 4.49/4.99. I would like to raise it so it's 4.49/5.something.

Email and ask them to raise it. They give you the option to go up to 9.99 then :)

@ Amberrose - one thing this thread should have taught you is that you're worth more. Don't go in low and then raise your prices, it just creates headaches. Try a higher rate and see how you get on :)

amberose
12-09-2011, 12:30 PM
@ Amberrose - one thing this thread should have taught you is that you're worth more. Don't go in low and then raise your prices, it just creates headaches. Try a higher rate and see how you get on :)

Hmm...in that case I'll start at 3.99. It's tempting to try 4.99, but I still don't know if this is "too much" for somebody new. Maybe worth a try, though?

ModelJolie
12-09-2011, 01:15 PM
I was charging less than a dollar when I first started camming because I noticed that a lot of the other girls were charging lower amounts. Then I was contacted by another model on the site and she let me know that I was charging too little. She said that guys would pay the higher per min rate, and also not to always offer free chat. She said to use free chat when I get bored just waiting for someone to ask for a pvt or when I feel like my profile was needing more exposure. This truly made sense to me, and I did double my prices, and I still got shows. Plus, I only use the free chat on occasion because, honestly, when I am flirting and being cute and sexy, but dealing with a bunch of cheapos for too long, it stresses me out!

Bianca Brazil
12-09-2011, 01:21 PM
My rates on SM are 6.99/8.99 and I do fine even so I only work there for 1-2hr since MFC is my main site. I wish girls on MFC didn't sell themselves for 25 cents though:(

shywebcamgirl
12-09-2011, 03:03 PM
I actually started really low ($1.99) and inched up tier level by tier level as I gained more confidence. No one ever noticed. But, as I said. I was one sneaky inchworm.

Kalypso
12-09-2011, 03:13 PM
My rates on SM are 6.99/8.99 and I do fine even so I only work there for 1-2hr since MFC is my main site. I wish girls on MFC didn't sell themselves for 25 cents though:(
HO-LY FUCK! Lol! I'm so inspired now. I know I can't charge this right now but as I build my brand/fan base and upgrade myself I'll be upgrading my prices too. I'm amped thinking about it;D

DominicanDream
12-09-2011, 04:01 PM
Look. If you demand more, you'll get more. If you raise your prices with a hesitant attitude like "Damn..am I worth $3 a min? Are guys going to give me shit for it?..." It'll show.

KNOW your worth, and demand more.

I work on SM and when people come in saying ''mmm bb show ass mmm bb'' they get booted instantly. If they come in and apologize (which they do a lot of the time) then they learned their lesson and sometimes either take me private or they leave.

I don't put up with freeloaders, I don't put up with cheap guys who just want a $1 GOLD show.

Demand more $ and you'll make more. The end.

taylor_sweet
12-09-2011, 04:22 PM
I charge 4.99 a private but.I don't even do them anymore gold shows.r my thing n sometimes I will go cheap if I get 100 gold to do a 5 min show why the help not when I get about 30 to fuck myself private but that works for me I'm happy n some models prob won't agree but a dollar is a dollar it all adds up I'm I rather make money then none now I don't go dirt cheap bell no but I will do the occasional cheap goldshow n I almost always still get my goal and I'm sorry but all n all I believe ur prices should reflect what u do n wat u offer ibnever get a customer complain on my show cause what I do resembles what they pay for

LilyLaineXXX
12-09-2011, 05:17 PM
I found this thread before I got approved for SM so when I went in I went in KNOWING I was gonna charge HIGH from day 1. I've never gotten a complaint on my prices and I've never had trouble making money. LOVE YOU GIRLS! lol!

Cam_Model_Jess
12-09-2011, 05:20 PM
I say this to myself all the time, and wonder why these moron freeloaders are trying to hassle us for free shows. lol

I'm always going to tell them now, "if you want free porn go to youporn."

Good sentiment. But DON'T actually send them to a free cam site. Well, not if you work on SM. They'd probably suspend you for that.

Cam_Model_Jess
12-09-2011, 05:22 PM
Ummm yeah, so after reading this thread I decided that even tho I'm a newbie, I wasn't goin to sell myself short and I raised my prices from 2.99 pvt to 3.49 and 3.99 exclusive to 4.49 and I made my goal tonight in an 1 1/2. I hope and wish we all keep this in mind, WE ARE A LUXURY and yes, they (custies) do pay. BTW, I was treated like a princess tonight!

If you act like one, you'll be treated like one. That's how it works for me. :)

Keep it up ;)

roast
12-09-2011, 07:10 PM
how do I raise my exclusive to more than 4.99 a minute? Do I have to wait a little while before I can do that? Before this thread I was 3.99/4.99 but I raised it to 4.49/4.99. I would like to raise it so it's 4.49/5.something.

Unless there is some other loophole or most earn it - the slacker method is you have to contact CS and ask if you can have more pricing options... aka charge up to 9.99 a minute

TheBrownFox
12-09-2011, 07:29 PM
i would like to quote something i heard thebrownfox say once in her room...
"this isn't burger king, you can't have it your way!"



lol. ;d


Something really strange is happening when I post. I just tried typing LOL in all caps and post the 'sticking tongue out' laugh emote, and it posted in lowercase letters and posted a weird symbol. Why has SW been so screwy for me lately???

MissKatie
12-09-2011, 07:37 PM
Fridays you ROCK, look what you did - more new girls having some self respect and confidence to charge good rates from the start. YAY for all of us :D

amberose
12-09-2011, 07:54 PM
if you are willing to put on a quality show, it is not too much.
I have my prices at 4.99 both privates and exclusives.

if you are new , you have the advantage to "train" the guys with your own style and prices from the very beginning.

Well I'm convinced. I'm gonna do 4.99 ;D

MissKatie
12-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Consider it like this - most other sites now pay out 50% and above. SM is extremely low %. Yes they have the traffic, but why work harder there for less, when you could could make more on other sites even if you get less shows? The way to work around this is to charge MORE on SM than you would on other sites, thereby balancing your income while simultaneously training the SM guys to be less cheap all round :)

TheBrownFox
12-09-2011, 08:01 PM
Sure, you don't wanna be cheap, but at the same time you can't allow this "I deserve better than blah, blah, blah" mentality to prevent you from getting shows and fuck with your paycheck. Yeah, you like the idea of charging the max on ImLive (5.80) because you "deserve" it.....but let's be real here. Would you rather A) be at 5.80 and hear crickets in your room all the time and not even reach the payout minimum, OR B) go back to 3.80 where your paychecks ROCKED? Remember...you've got bills to pay.

Sites like ImLive and Streamate allow you to choose your rate, so feel free to experiment to see what works for you. If 3.80 is awesome for you, don't suddenly start charging 5.80 just because you heard that your favorite cam girl charges that amount. Try it for a little bit, and see how it works out for you. When you raise or lower your rates, make sure you're doing it for the RIGHT reasons.

On ImLive I CAN charge as much as 5.80, but I don't want to charge that amount. I changed my rate to 3.80 (I used to be at 2.80) and am happy with that rate.

And I must say it annoys me when guys have the nerve to ask for my discount code, when they are A) not even a well-spending regular, B) extremely picky about what they want, and/or C) guys who buy very short sessions. It's your first time in my room, and you want me to put on a white top, black skirt, and white thigh-highs, and use a toy, AND you want my discount code for a 3-minute session? LMAO. FUCK that.....

TheBrownFox
12-09-2011, 08:19 PM
My Skype rate has been $2/min with a 10-minute minimum. That way I'm getting at least $20 for the transaction. But I just recently started thinking about increasing it to $3/min. A little change for the new year...lmao. What'cha think, ladies? :)

No matter what we charge, there are still gonna be cheapos trying to negotiate. LMAO.

Cool thread!

Truebebeblue
12-09-2011, 09:44 PM
New girl here! Been reading myself blind for the last week here... and tons more to go! Loads of excellent info ladies... you are appreciated! On the topic of prices. Lots of sex industry girls make the mistake of dropping prices when economy gets rough but when I escorted (up until late 09) I saw the girls who stuck around did so by raising their prices when everyone else was bargain basement strategy they actually added 100 bucks to their hourly. The reason this works is because patronizing a sex worker is a luxury ALWAYS. Like you ladies said. The men who you want as clients are the men less affected by economic changes in such a dramatic way in other words 100s or even 1000s are not their concerns.. I think it cuts out the riff-raff. Back to studying!

True

MissKatie
12-09-2011, 09:45 PM
How about setting your rate $2 higher than you think you should, then you have always got somewhere to go if you DO feel like giving a discount. I don't understand how anything below $4 can be worth it for anyone:O

**Edit - On SM anyway