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Spinnerette
12-16-2011, 04:06 PM
I totally understand the point you're trying to make, but here's the thing...
If my room is crickets, I now understand that it's not my price that's the problem. This is what I've come to find out in all areas of marketing. The truth is -- from adult biz to promoting web design services and anything beyond or between -- if a potential client is stuck on price the issue is that they are not convinced about your offer; it's not about the price. Everyone becomes a dime a dozen when price is the deciding factor.

Make yourself a purple cow and you step out of that rat race. (unfamiliar with purple cow? look up Seth Godin) Marketing is marketing is marketing. Good marketing makes selling superfluous. (also look up Peter Drucker if you don't get the latter statement) Become a great marketer and you'll make great money no matter what service or product you sell.

Wisdom. :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Stick with the Hollywood (safe) formula if that's what works for you, but I like the method proposed in this thread. I love even more that there are ladies incorporating it and seeing great return. You can't know success if you're never willing to risk failure.

Incantatious
12-16-2011, 05:31 PM
Holy crap..

Since I raised my prices up to 3.99 and 4.89, I've actually been getting LONGER privates and exclusives!!!

Yup - guys have been staying with me for LONGER periods of time in paid chat since I raised my prices. Thank you for this thread Fridays!

Brilynne
12-16-2011, 10:20 PM
I admit I haven't read much of this thread at all so I'm likely repeating a lot, but I feel like adding my 2 cents anyways-

Raising prices is really the best thing you can do for yourself. Even if you get shorter privates, it still evens out for the most part because you're making a higher amount.

Remember- many of us are risking a lot, getting naked and (usually) shoving toys into a variety of places. Putting up with beggars and freeloaders, listening to creepy and crazy fetishes, watching god only knows what on c2c... Don't you think you deserve to be banking for this?

Some girls never even put a mirror between their legs, let alone a webcam to broadcast themselves to the world wide web! We risk being recorded, being found by exes, by friends, by family members..Many of us are risking our reputations and relationships. At first glance it seems like okay yeah we make great money compared to minimum wage...But that's the thing, you can't compare this to a vanilla job! We are not flipping burgers in a back room, we are putting ourselves in the public eye doing what many women wouldn't have the balls to even consider! WE SHOULD MAKE GREAT MONEY FOR THIS JOB.

Not convinced? Let's take away our "hourly pay" mindset for a minute.
Forget that you make $30/$50/$100/whatevs and hour and think of it PER SHOW-
Custy comes along, takes you private for 8 minutes. If your price is set at say, $2.99, this dude is paying roughly $23. $23 for the luxury of a beautiful woman performing LIVE in front and essentially personalizing his very own porno.
For $23.
Oh, but remember- on say, SM, you only see 35% of that. Even less on daily pay.

So approx. $9. You're providing-and again I really want to drive this word into your brain-a luxury. You're giving the guy a chance to use you for his own pleasure, you're bringing his most intimate fantasys to life.

Sure, you may do shows all of that hour and it adds up, but per person they're paying chump change.

If you believe that everything you're doing for these guys, everything you could be risking ,everything you put up with from asshat customers, jealous "coworkers" and,hell , even the websites we work on, is worth the cost of a Happy Meal from McDonald's, then I'm sorry girlie- but you need to leave this industry and not come back until you learn some self worth.

/end lecture

Fridays
12-16-2011, 10:38 PM
loved your lecture, Brilynne!
Awesome post, really.

ElianaIsis
12-17-2011, 04:19 AM
Awesome!!!!!
Now if all the gold shows would be $1/min or more...
I'd think I died and went to heaven..

I couldn't agree more and even most of my regs agree. Yes, we've discussed it at length in free chat. They agree that they spend money on us because they want to and feel that we deserve to be treated with respect and be paid accordingly for what we give them. I have great regs!

Brilynne
12-17-2011, 04:41 AM
I couldn't agree more and even most of my regs agree. Yes, we've discussed it at length in free chat. They agree that they spend money on us because they want to and feel that we deserve to be treated with respect and be paid accordingly for what we give them. I have great regs!
I love hearing this.

These guys will only value us to the extent that we value ourselves.
Up your standards, ladies! Yes, it may be easier said than done. We live in a world where busting ass for practically pennies, not only tolerating but smiling in the face of the rude, obnoxious, even downright insulting, and stucturing our lives around someone elses terms, rules, and schedules in beaten into us from day one.
But you DO deserve better, and you have found a job that allows you to have what you deserve! There is so much opportunity here, so seize it!

Yes, when it comes to stepping up and demanding what you're entitled to you may feel nervous, uncertainty, worry..all sorts of apprehension at first.
That's fine, you are human. And honestly, you can go ahead and be absolutely dying inside..
Just don't show it!

I live my life according to 6 little words, and really it has made a world of difference:

Fake it til ya' make it

Confidence it key. Believe you are worthy and others will come to believe it, too!;)

TheBrownFox
12-17-2011, 05:57 AM
I totally understand the point you're trying to make, but here's the thing...
If my room is crickets, I now understand that it's not my price that's the problem. This is what I've come to find out in all areas of marketing. The truth is -- from adult biz to promoting web design services and anything beyond or between -- if a potential client is stuck on price the issue is that they are not convinced about your offer; it's not about the price. Everyone becomes a dime a dozen when price is the deciding factor.

Make yourself a purple cow and you step out of that rat race. (unfamiliar with purple cow? look up Seth Godin) Marketing is marketing is marketing. Good marketing makes selling superfluous. (also look up Peter Drucker if you don't get the latter statement) Become a great marketer and you'll make great money no matter what service or product you sell.



Yeah, I know it's not JUST about pricing, and that promoting, marketing, etc. is important too. :)

MissKatie
12-17-2011, 09:56 AM
[B]Fake it til ya' make it[b]

Agreed 1000% !!

wetitalian
12-18-2011, 08:23 PM
Word! Misskatie...

kittykrane
12-19-2011, 02:50 PM
One thing we all have to understand is that we each charge what we need/want to make and that amount is different for all of us. I keep my privates between $4.50 to $4.99/min. If and when I do GOLD shows, I set a low goal and sometimes yes, I do offer low minimum pledges for a short show, but I'll get some nice guys pitching in way more so it balances out okay. Those are quick cash makers for me, not my bread and butter like the privates, so I do want to make it fun for the guys who honestly want to participate but can't afford to blow big money. I've made some regulars off of them too, guys who spend that 1 gold to see what I was about and loved the 5 min preveiw, so they came back and spent another $50 on me in private. Should I also exclude guys who maybe have a monthly cam budget? I'll take whatever I can get, sorry ladies.

KarinaGiselle
12-20-2011, 10:24 PM
Silly question but... Is it fair to charge between 3.50 and 4.50 a minute as a start when offering the following on Streamate? Remember, I'm a transgirl, which puts me in a niche on that site.

* HD fluid stream
* High performance computer
* High quality audio
* Fluid English communication skills
* Lingerie shows
* A 10Mbps upload connection

And many other goodies.

laurielegs
12-20-2011, 10:27 PM
Karina, I'd check the other trans girls on the site and see what they charge, but I have always heard it can be a very lucrative niche so I would think your price is a bit low, especially with an HD video stream and that massively fast upload.

KarinaGiselle
12-20-2011, 10:29 PM
Most of the trans girls at Streamate (and many other sites) don't even have sound. They have a choppy video quality and TBH their shows suck! Most are thai or latin american and they can barely speak English.

Perhaps I can raise the bar regarding pricing considering the advantages I'll have BUT I want opinions from people here. Consider that I'm also working on the online marketing around forums, and so far I've gotten a positive feedback from people, even getting PM's and stuff at other forums.

luscious sadie
12-20-2011, 11:35 PM
Silly question but... Is it fair to charge between 3.50 and 4.50 a minute as a start when offering the following on Streamate? Remember, I'm a transgirl, which puts me in a niche on that site.

* HD fluid stream
* High performance computer
* High quality audio
* Fluid English communication skills
* Lingerie shows
* A 10Mbps upload connection

And many other goodies.

I started at 3.99/4.99
not a niche but offer all the things that you do, too.

KarinaGiselle
12-22-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm thinking of charging 4.99 private and 5.99 exclusive. Considering my niche and the proposed quality, I think it's a very fair price.

Would anyone like to provide me some solid feedback? What I fear is that, if those prices are too high, I won't get as many customers as I'd wish.

DMaribella
12-22-2011, 11:29 PM
^ Why don't you give those rates a try and see? I'm not in your niche, so I don't know specifically, but if you try those rates and find you're not getting the number of privates that you want you can re-assess and adjust slightly downward if you need to.

luscious sadie
12-23-2011, 01:00 AM
^ Why don't you give those rates a try and see? I'm not in your niche, so I don't know specifically, but if you try those rates and find you're not getting the number of privates that you want you can re-assess and adjust slightly downward if you need to.

I think that this is the best thing that you can do, as well. Going down is easier than going up.

Sparks
12-28-2011, 12:56 AM
I just made way more money in half an hour than I usually do and in charging 4 dollars a minute now, I just decided to give myself a little raise :] my customer quality has also dramatically improved the losers just camp out in freechat, not for long though. I wish I did this when I first started what was I thinking?

maryjaynexo
12-28-2011, 06:36 AM
I just made way more money in half an hour than I usually do and in charging 4 dollars a minute now, I just decided to give myself a little raise :] my customer quality has also dramatically improved the losers just camp out in freechat, not for long though. I wish I did this when I first started what was I thinking?

Good job! I'm happy for you. Enjoy that extra money ;D I know I did the same happy dance when I upped my prices.

CamWhore
12-28-2011, 01:27 PM
@ karina

"Start backwards.


How much do you want or should I say need to make per hour?
$20. $30, $50, $90, $120?
if you were in private non stop, how much should you have to charge per minute ( after the site;s cut) to make your hourly rate?"

:highfive:
I have done this from the very beginning. I want to make $200 a working hr (not an hour that im live, but every 60 minutes being in a show) SO then I divide that by 60 (minutes) Then I tack on a dollar or two as my rate ( $4-$6) This has made me WANT to work. The fact that I am getting what I feel I deserve and what I ask for.




Ask for less and you will get less.
thats bottom line.
Ask for more and you will get more.
why is this principle so hard?

and keep in mind...
if someone has $5... they have $10 too.
Make them spend the 10, cause they have it.
If you dont, I will.
Someone will get their money.

........

tashataboo
12-30-2011, 06:46 AM
I just spotted this very relevant Seth Godin quote on The Domino Project blog:

"In a market where the marginal cost is close to zero, prices tend to race to zero as well. Except… Except when there are no substitutes. If you want Elvis Costello to call you on the phone and wish you a happy birthday, he can charge you whatever he wants, because even though it costs him very little, you have no alternatives. If you want Elvis, well, there’s only one. Take it or leave it."


Love it. 'Nuff said :)

Jessica1001
12-30-2011, 08:03 AM
Dear Fridays,

I thought I was already doing a kick-ass job making $ on cam. But ever since raising my already exorbitant rates (inspired in part by your thread), I've been doing even BETTER, making MORE, and attracting HIGHER QUALITY customers. Like... way beyond my expectations, my-jaw-is-on-the-floor. :-)

I was already pretty smug about my level of success, but you helped me take it NOT to 'the next level'... but a few notches beyond. You reminded me that no matter how well you think you're doing, unless every man over the age of 18 on the entire internet is maxing out his credit card in your cam room as soon as you log on, there is room for improvement. ;-)

I owe you a big fat thank you.

Please PM me your paypal address, because I probably owe you a cut of my money, as well. :-)

-J

sweetgapeach
12-30-2011, 11:20 AM
This thread confuses me. I have been trying to reason it all into my brain. I understand we all want the most money that we can get while still maintaining our lifestyles and that some of us do not understand the value of our minutes. Being still a newbie to the industry, I thought I could get a sort of reason to what my prices should be from this. So I been reading AND using my member account to check prices of some girls that I feel are similar to me and the more marketable girls too. Some of the prices that are listed here are not what is being charged.

I wanna walk the walk and be a big girl and be successful, but I noticed for me that when I raised my rates-just a wee bit-my time being taken private has decreased. But my kids have been home for the last two weeks and my time has been very limited too. And I agree with another model who posted on a different thread when she said she noticed a drop in earnings after speaking on them in this forum, I have noticed that too. I have not made great money yet but when I speak on what I make to give other girls a realistic thought process then my earnings drop.

I am currently at 319 for exclusives and I think 399 for privates. I was 299 and 399. I am gonna stay there for a few more weeks and see. I feel worth the 399 and 499, but with models surrounding me with much lower prices-I am just not confident enough to demand more because I need this money. Is that crazy?

sweetgapeach
12-30-2011, 11:29 AM
Oh yeah, sorry to ramble but maybe one of ya'll more experienced can help. Here is my deal with gold shows, I have successfully done one, and failed two. If the timer is 7 minutes and you take 12 minutes to get your goal....if someone took me private for those 20 minutes, at least 20 bucks, right? So I think a 100 minimum should be requested so that we get 35 for offering the special to soo many guys but I hardly EVER see 100 shows take place on the BBW page. I mean a few try and succeed but most of us can't get 60 and thats just sad and makes them not as worth while.

I just wish we could all do a minimum 100 and never start before like say 80 is reached, so we can make money too.

PurpleSkye
01-02-2012, 08:42 AM
I get so sick of the guys saying that $3.99 and $4.99 is too expensive. I offer HD and sound, I know there's girls that charge even more than that yet they get all huffy. That being said, it's probably the minority that say anything but still gets frustrating at times.

laurielegs
01-03-2012, 12:17 PM
I get so sick of the guys saying that $3.99 and $4.99 is too expensive. I offer HD and sound, I know there's girls that charge even more than that yet they get all huffy. That being said, it's probably the minority that say anything but still gets frustrating at times.


I actually tried 2.99 and 1.99 when I first started at SM and guess what? I had guys asking me to go down to .99! I really think anything less than 3.99 is ridiculous if you offer HD.

Those who are saying you are too expensive are not your target audience.

ManyRoses
01-03-2012, 12:36 PM
Ack! I just had to add to this thread....on a different note from my last "devil's advocate" moment. Frankly, I'm not too concerned about what other girls are charging for most stuff, but I HAVE to say something about gold shows.

I'm currently waiting for my breakfast to cook and browsing some other SM rooms (guilty pleasure!) and am so freaking SHOCKED by how much girls are trying to cram into a gold show. I have no issues with girls doing "cheap" gold shows. In fact, I understand it to an extent. There have been times where I have done a $2 buy in show to bump up earnings. BUT when my shows are cheap, they are a) short. and b) not that graphic. So I'll do a $2 buy in for a few minutes of deepthroat. Thats IT.

I am currently watching a model who is selling a 12 minute show for $2. As if that is not bad enough, she is offering in the show "strip, anal, pussy fuck, atm, deepthroat, beads, toys, double anal fuck, and spanking.".

$2 for ALL of that. Are you freaking KIDDING me???? Fuck the rates you charge, how about you offer a reasonable price for WHAT you are doing? I love gold shows, but they are quickly turning into a shit show where for $1 you can get a full freaking porno condensed into eight minutes. This is disgusting. Ladies- whatever you do or do not charge, can we please keep gold shows reasonable? Can we avoid doing absolutely everything in every show???

Ugh.

LaurenAus
01-03-2012, 12:43 PM
Ack! I just had to add to this thread....on a different note from my last "devil's advocate" moment. Frankly, I'm not too concerned about what other girls are charging for most stuff, but I HAVE to say something about gold shows.

I'm currently waiting for my breakfast to cook and browsing some other SM rooms (guilty pleasure!) and am so freaking SHOCKED by how much girls are trying to cram into a gold show. I have no issues with girls doing "cheap" gold shows. In fact, I understand it to an extent. There have been times where I have done a $2 buy in show to bump up earnings. BUT when my shows are cheap, they are a) short. and b) not that graphic. So I'll do a $2 buy in for a few minutes of deepthroat. Thats IT.

I am currently watching a model who is selling a 12 minute show for $2. As if that is not bad enough, she is offering in the show "strip, anal, pussy fuck, atm, deepthroat, beads, toys, double anal fuck, and spanking.".

$2 for ALL of that. Are you freaking KIDDING me???? Fuck the rates you charge, how about you offer a reasonable price for WHAT you are doing? I love gold shows, but they are quickly turning into a shit show where for $1 you can get a full freaking porno condensed into eight minutes. This is disgusting. Ladies- whatever you do or do not charge, can we please keep gold shows reasonable? Can we avoid doing absolutely everything in every show???

Ugh.

can someone tell me why anyone would charge only $2 to basically let you see their insides? I seriously am not understanding this. This girl needs an intervention!!!

Holly_xoxo
01-03-2012, 12:50 PM
I'm surprised the prices on IMlive. I recently went back on there and so many of the girls are 1.98 and 2.80 Considering you only make 30% you're not making much at all with that rate.

TheBrownFox
01-03-2012, 01:06 PM
I'm surprised the prices on IMlive. I recently went back on there and so many of the girls are 1.98 and 2.80 Considering you only make 30% you're not making much at all with that rate.



I'm at 3.80 on ImLive (I used to be at 2.80, but never again...). This guy recently came to my room who remembered me from a while ago (I had closed my account there, then came back recently), and he asked "Do you have a discount code?" He doesn't do long shows, and I don't usually give anyone discounts anyway.....so my answer was no. He still took me private anyway. :)

And anytime a guy tries to give me a hard time about prices, I remind them that we only get a percentage of what they pay.

KarinaGiselle
01-03-2012, 01:41 PM
WTF @ the ManyRoses post! $2USD for ALL that?!?!? What's that girl smoking? O_O

Spinnerette
01-03-2012, 02:07 PM
...well, what was the overall goal? I recall a thread about public shows on MFC where the consensus was that they didn't care if they were performing for 3 people or 30, the effort put into the performance/money was all the same. :/ Not that I would ever let anyone do a buy in for less than 5 bucks, but who knows? Maybe that's part of her business strategy. A "sample" show and then she'll charge people her normal rates for 1 on 1. I've considered doing it like as a form of advertising, but I can see how it can backfire.

luscious sadie
01-03-2012, 02:27 PM
I think that I know what girl you guys are talking about. She seems to ONLY do gold shows so I guess her business strategy is to have all gold shows with low buy-ins but high goals.

in a way it makes sense. She gets a lot of guys who pay a little bit of money all night. She makes an ok amount for the amount of effort that she puts in. If she makes her money, she makes her goal...

Fridays
01-03-2012, 02:31 PM
if you want to run, dont shoot yourself in the foot.

luscious sadie
01-03-2012, 02:37 PM
I'm not saying that it's a good business model but if her goal is to make a 150$ a night in 4 hours and she finds that doing 5 gold shows a night works for her with only 50 minutes of pussy / whatever pounding... hey, whatever!

amberose
01-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Yesterday I saw a girl on the front page doing a 10 minute gold show for 1 gold.

Granted, it was just a masturbation/hitachi show, BUT the minimum goal was 1 gold. So one guy pledged and she started the show. I joined (just to see what would happen) and only 12 other people joined, so she made like 4 bucks for 13 guys to watch her spread her pussy for 10 minutes.

LusciousKatya
01-03-2012, 07:43 PM
Yesterday I saw a girl on the front page doing a 10 minute gold show for 1 gold.

Granted, it was just a masturbation/hitachi show, BUT the minimum goal was 1 gold. So one guy pledged and she started the show. I joined (just to see what would happen) and only 12 other people joined, so she made like 4 bucks for 13 guys to watch her spread her pussy for 10 minutes.


Aiy Aiy Aiy :'( Agh!!!!

amberose
01-03-2012, 09:18 PM
I know right? >:(

lolabunny
01-04-2012, 01:26 PM
I can understand $1 GOLD Shows, but not when you are no where near your goal!....but hey, to each his own...

ManyRoses
01-04-2012, 02:04 PM
For the record, the girl that I saw had a goal of $100, and would start the show at half that.

I have no issues with low buy-ins when a show is not too hardcore (fingering only, deepthroat only, strip and oil only, etc). I would also have less of an issue with it if the goal was really high, and she was asking for $500 to do all that.

My issue is when girls will offer absolutely EVERYTHING for a low buy in AND a low goal. Way to devalue yourself, honey.

I don't care how many guys are watching as long as I make the money that I think is reasonable for the act that I am performing (I'm always working under the assumption that everything I do will do the full rounds on the internet and been seen by the world. It probably won't, but I like to prepare for the worst). But I just hate, hate HATE seeing girls do a gold show that covers every possible act. Why the hell aren't you just doing an "anal show" OR a "pussy show" OR an "oil show" or whatever. What is with the need to do an "anal pussy doublepenetration deepthroat oil then shower then more oil then object insertion then squirting then cum show"????

Cam_chick
01-04-2012, 02:14 PM
Thanks to this thread I started off on SM yesterday with my rates at 3.99 and 4.99 :) making between 40-80 an hour! Love my cam girls for helping me believe I'm worth it <3

Mayrah
01-04-2012, 04:50 PM
Im also a transgirl and i just upped to 3.99 and 4.99 aswell. Also everytime i login im immediatly at the #1 spot with the Adobe encoder and sound.

KarinaGiselle
01-04-2012, 07:11 PM
That's sweet Mayrah! Let us know how things go (: BTW Welcome to the forum!

Cosima
01-05-2012, 01:13 AM
Thanks to this thread I started off on SM yesterday with my rates at 3.99 and 4.99 :) making between 40-80 an hour! Love my cam girls for helping me believe I'm worth it <3
that's awesome you're doing so well in SM

LusciousBBW
01-05-2012, 06:36 AM
I just wanted to really thank you all for this thread. When I started, I set my rate low, due partly to lower self-esteem due to my body size BUT after reading this and starting with a new site, I set my rates higher and after working just 1 hour on the site (don't wanna overwhelm myself), I made $35 (my cut). Had you all not encouraged us newbies to set our rates higher, I am sure I would've set them low in hopes of getting more privates, and likely been disappointed. I was taken into private within 10 minutes of being on lol.

I had 2 privates in that hour and then I decided to take a break. What's interesting is that I don't have fancy equipment or outfits and I just went on as "me," except I wore a wig lol but overall, I wanted to let everyone know that raising my rates actually seemed to take me into more privates since on the other site where my rates were lower, all I did was sit in free chat it seemed and get one private every hour or so.

laurielegs
01-05-2012, 08:04 AM
I can understand $1 GOLD Shows, but not when you are no where near your goal!....but hey, to each his own...

I completely object to $1 gold shows.

Men pay more than that for RECORDED shows - these same men who are paying $1 for a long xxx show.
I really think that nobody should be selling LIVE shows for less than $1 per MINUTE if there is anything more than topless. Hell I won't even sell topless for less than that. Too many hosts are looking at their total rather than what the customer is paying. Even then I think it's cheap - can you imagine a man walking up to you and offering you $5 to see your tits and masturbate to them for five minutes? (and you only get to keep 35% of that $5! good grief).

They are interacting live for less than what they can buy your recorded content for on clips4sale and that is ridiculous.

h0ttie
01-05-2012, 08:46 AM
I completely object to $1 gold shows.

Men pay more than that for RECORDED shows - these same men who are paying $1 for a long xxx show.
I really think that nobody should be selling LIVE shows for less than $1 per MINUTE if there is anything more than topless. Hell I won't even sell topless for less than that. Too many hosts are looking at their total rather than what the customer is paying. Even then I think it's cheap - can you imagine a man walking up to you and offering you $5 to see your tits and masturbate to them for five minutes? (and you only get to keep 35% of that $5! good grief).

They are interacting live for less than what they can buy your recorded content for on clips4sale and that is ridiculous.

I dunno..I don't have a problem with 1 dollar gold shows.
Girls on mfc are doing public shows for freeloaders that haven't even paid 1 cent.
I think the total you make is the most important thing. If I could make more money doing pvts for 1.99 I would do it! I don't care how much each guy is paying, I care about how much money I log off with.
At any second one of our shows could be recorded and posted on a tube site where thousands of people can see our show free. So I am not going to miss out on making more money because "thats giving it away for too cheap" I am going to do whatever I can to make the most money in the time I'm online.
However, my prices for pvt are high,because thats what makes me the most. Doing 1 dollar gold shows makes me more than 5,6,7,8 dollar gold shows. So which should I do? 1 dollar and take home more money or more expensive gold shows and take home less?
I do agree that if all gold shows were priced higher we would all be able to earn more from them,but they are not...

Cam_chick
01-05-2012, 09:03 AM
^ I totally see what you are saying. I really wish everyone did their gold shows at atleast a dollar a minute, everyone would benefit so much but it's nearly impossible to enact that kind of change.

kittykrane
01-05-2012, 10:24 AM
I was off the last 10 days and just got back on SM this week. I promised myself that I would not do many gold shows this year. My privates have been going so well that I offered ONE gold show in the past 2 days: a 7 gold for 10 minutes. That's fair. I set the goal under 100 gold but made over 100 gold on my first try. That doesn't happen often, but having done the real cheap buy-ins, it beats trying to get them to cough up a couple gold. The serious guys will pay and will be happy paying 1Gold/min or just under that. We shouldn't have to work to hard to convince anyone to drop 1 gold, but if a gal is doing a show for 1 gold, as long as she is happy making her goal (which is all that really matters to her), then I won't judge. Heck once I accidentally hit "start" instead of "cancel" on a cheap gold show, but thankfully it wasn't a long one. Didn't make much, but did get some new customers off it. I gotta be careful with the keyboard!

lolabunny
01-05-2012, 10:57 AM
I dunno..I don't have a problem with 1 dollar gold shows.
Girls on mfc are doing public shows for freeloaders that haven't even paid 1 cent.
I think the total you make is the most important thing. If I could make more money doing pvts for 1.99 I would do it! I don't care how much each guy is paying, I care about how much money I log off with.
At any second one of our shows could be recorded and posted on a tube site where thousands of people can see our show free. So I am not going to miss out on making more money because "thats giving it away for too cheap" I am going to do whatever I can to make the most money in the time I'm online.
However, my prices for pvt are high,because thats what makes me the most. Doing 1 dollar gold shows makes me more than 5,6,7,8 dollar gold shows. So which should I do? 1 dollar and take home more money or more expensive gold shows and take home less?
I do agree that if all gold shows were priced higher we would all be able to earn more from them,but they are not...


YES! Thank You h0ttie! lol...At the end of the day, I need to make my goal lol...Shows will be recorded, so it doesn't matter how much you charge lol...I feel they are a great promo! I have gained some long privates and GOLD show fans because I had done a dollar show!...Like I said, to each, his own...If you feel uncomfortable with it, then don't bother...I don't knock dollar GOLD shows at all! lol