View Full Version : Cammodel Rates, What Should I Charge?
Pages :
1
2
3
4
[
5]
6
7
8
9
10
11
12
13
14
15
ClaudiaReina
01-05-2012, 10:58 AM
I'm starting camming with my bf too and I had a look around SM. I saw couples for 0.99 per minute. That's for two people. And 35% of that...What's that per minute?
On a lighter note, there's this site I'm on where I usually have the highest per minute rate whenever I'm online in my category. I'm usually in privates there and I'm one of the top 3 highest earners. So basically, I was thinking about it, and I don't mind if someone is cheap. Each to their own I guess. If it's working out for you to charge less...? For me it doesn't work out. I still have sites where I'm pretty new and I'm still experimenting, there were sites where my room became a ghost town whenever I raised my rates. I don't like working there because it kills me to know that on another site I could get that much more for this same thing I'm doing. I don't know where I'm going with all this;D Just some random thoughts I guess!
blondebarbiebritney
01-10-2012, 03:30 PM
GOD BLESS THIS THREAD!I raised my rates & had to raise my daily goal because i was killing my old goal :)WAY better customers!+ i am not dying being burnt out, i make way more money for way less work and time!THANKYOU
TheBrownFox
01-11-2012, 08:40 AM
Wow. I just peeked in a room where the model required $120 for the gold show to start, but she came right out and told the guys that she'll still do it even if she only gets half of that. So she's willing to do the show if she gets $60, which would end up being only $21 in her pocket. Yikes!
Telling your room that you'll still do the show even if you only get halfway there is a bad idea. Of course, guys aren't gonna tip gold past the halfway mark if you tell them that.
TheBrownFox
01-11-2012, 08:51 AM
And when she returned to public chat, a few guys complained that they didn't see a cumshot. And one guy said in all caps "HE NEVER CAME. WELL I AIN'T SPENDING ANOTHER $10 TO FIND OUT."
I swear, some of these guys are a bunch of whiners.
When SM lets me start camming, I don't think I'll be doing gold shows. I see a bunch of guys trying to talk models into doing other things that aren't listed in their gold show topic. If she's using toys in the pussy, they want anal. If she's doing anal, they wanna see b/g. Silly boys... :P
TheBrownFox
01-11-2012, 09:11 AM
Yep.
well they might cause in order to get in the show, they have to pledge regardless.
Yeah, but what I'm saying is that once you come right out and say "I'll even do the show for half of my goal!" they are gonna hold you to that. Models should think twice before they blurt out "I'll tell you what, guys...if you get me halfway there, I'll do the show!" Don't tell guys this when you still have several minutes remaining on the timer. If you're down to your final seconds, and you're halfway there, and you still want to do the show, that's fine.
luscious sadie
01-11-2012, 02:36 PM
well realistically, the guys who have already pledged are going to pay regardless so while I agree that it's a stupid thing to say she may still get more guys atf who are like "oh ok well I'll see the show regardless". It just means that the guys IN the show already aren't going to tip more to get it up there (which I find they don't really do anyway).
luscious sadie
01-11-2012, 02:44 PM
so I asked SM to let me raise my rates and they did. However, when I lowered them below what they had "automatically" raised them to... now I'm not given the option to put it back above 4.99. Wtf?
LadyCoco
01-11-2012, 03:16 PM
I raised my rates on SM to $3.99/$4.99 and a guy last night had the nerve to tell me I was too expensive. I told him it would be worth his while, and he took me to private!
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 04:38 AM
well realistically, the guys who have already pledged are going to pay regardless so while I agree that it's a stupid thing to say she may still get more guys atf who are like "oh ok well I'll see the show regardless". It just means that the guys IN the show already aren't going to tip more to get it up there (which I find they don't really do anyway).
Whatever floats her boat. I don't like to "settle" (guys trying to negotiate prices) when I'm certain that I'm already offering a great deal. But yeah, whatever works for YOU is what's important. :)
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 04:57 AM
I raised my rates on SM to $3.99/$4.99 and a guy last night had the nerve to tell me I was too expensive. I told him it would be worth his while, and he took me to private!
That's great, and I'm glad you stood your ground and didn't allow him to talk you into lowering your rates. :) When random guys (or cheap ones) on ImLive ask for my discount code, I decline. I chose my current price for a reason, so what the hell makes them think they're entitled to a discount? LOL. I wouldn't dare ask a waitress at Red Lobster "Can I get a discount?" I pay FULL price. :P
Some guys will still take you private anyway, once they realize they can't convince you to drop your price. And $3.99/$4.99 are the exact SM rates that the studio I left () suggested that models start out with. And of course, you get a small percentage of that. Expensive? Pffft! A cam show is entertainment, and we probably all know guys who are willing to spend way more than that on live sports events...except the football players aren't naked and masturbating. :P
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 05:09 AM
Do you ladies on SM notice a difference in your earnings when you enable the block sessions? Or do you choose to disable them?
luscious sadie
01-12-2012, 05:35 AM
Whatever floats her boat. I don't like to "settle" (guys trying to negotiate prices) when I'm certain that I'm already offering a great deal. But whatever pays your bills and works for you, I guess...
there's a difference between letting guys negotiate price and "settling for a lower goal" though. Like, if you make half your goal and are ok with the amount, why not start the show? If more guys want to join, they have to pledge anyway and you'll end up making your "lower goal" plus more. It's not like with the lower goal new guys are going to be able to see.
I don't do gold shows for this and other reasons and I resent you giving me, and other girls attitude by saying "whatever pays your bills and works for you" in a condescending tone.
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 08:19 AM
there's a difference between letting guys negotiate price and "settling for a lower goal" though. Like, if you make half your goal and are ok with the amount, why not start the show? If more guys want to join, they have to pledge anyway and you'll end up making your "lower goal" plus more. It's not like with the lower goal new guys are going to be able to see.
I don't do gold shows for this and other reasons and I resent you giving me, and other girls attitude by saying "whatever pays your bills and works for you" in a condescending tone.
I'm not the one with the attitude, and I wasn't trying to be condescending...sorry if you felt that way. You're the one who seems determined to quote all of my posts and dispute everything I say. READ posts thoroughly before you choose to quote and nitpick.
And actually, I'd probably go ahead and do the show too if I was satisfied with the amount of GOLD I received, and if it's not too far off from the desired goal. But if I already feel that my desired goal is a "really good deal," me accepting only 50% of that probably won't be good enough for me. THAT is what I was saying.
I guess it was my "But whatever works for you and pays your bills" comment that came across as a bit snobbish, so I probably should've reworded that or put a smiley after it.
Jessica1001
01-12-2012, 08:38 AM
Do you ladies on SM notice a difference in your earnings when you enable the block sessions? Or do you choose to disable them?
No noticeable difference, for me.
luscious sadie
01-12-2012, 09:22 AM
I'm not the one with the attitude, and I wasn't trying to be condescending...sorry if you felt that way. You're the one who seems determined to quote all of my posts and dispute everything I say. READ posts thoroughly before you choose to quote and nitpick.
And actually, I'd probably go ahead and do the show too if I was satisfied with the amount of GOLD I received, and if it's not too far off from the desired goal. But if I already feel that my desired goal is a "really good deal," me accepting only 50% of that probably won't be good enough for me. THAT is what I was saying.
I guess it was my "But whatever works for you and pays your bills" comment that came across as a bit snobbish, so I probably should've reworded that or put a smiley after it.
didn't mean to come off as having attitude or nitpicking your posts. Sorry if I did :)
I don't do gold shows for oh so many reasons and one of the biggest is that no matter how good a deal you give, it never seems to be enough for them. Even if you're charging 1$/minute they're saving like, 30$ at my rates for a 10 minute show. That's a pretty sweet deal but I wouldn't dare charge that much for a 10 minute show. I would probably only charge 5$ gold. So I just don't do gold shows.
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 10:03 AM
didn't mean to come off as having attitude or nitpicking your posts. Sorry if I did :)
I don't do gold shows for oh so many reasons and one of the biggest is that no matter how good a deal you give, it never seems to be enough for them. Even if you're charging 1$/minute they're saving like, 30$ at my rates for a 10 minute show. That's a pretty sweet deal but I wouldn't dare charge that much for a 10 minute show. I would probably only charge 5$ gold. So I just don't do gold shows.
It looks like my SM profile is all set, and I'm pretty sure I won't be doing gold shows, even though I was really curious about it at first. I could just imagine it...me doing a great show, and guys demanding all kinds of stuff and not being satisfied with what I'm already doing. That would suck. I've seen a lot of that behavior already just from peeking at other girls' public chat.
So even though I do think GOLD shows was a good idea (kind of like a MFC public show, except EVERYONE watching MUST pay up), I'll probably do without them and stick with exclusive and premium shows. I just wanna do me, and make me and the guy happy, without having to deal with a room full of super-picky, bossy guys. That one-on-one 'Let's chat and fuck!' setting is pretty cool, in my opinion.
Mayrah
01-12-2012, 10:20 AM
Dont forget that if a member cant afford a 10 min exclusive on 4$ or 5$ a min, he can afford a couple of golshows from you though.
TheBrownFox
01-12-2012, 11:19 AM
Dont forget that if a member cant afford a 10 min exclusive on 4$ or 5$ a min, he can afford a couple of golshows from you though.
True.
I agree with Fridays on the $1/minute and UP thing. $5 for 5 minutes and $10 for 10 minutes is very reasonable. I like seeing girls with those kind of gold show topics. Hell, this Don Wand glass toy feels so good soaked in hot water that 5 minutes is probably all I need...lmao. :P
I never thought about saving the toy shows for exclusive only. I've always done them in premium chat too, but I definitely understand why some girls save it for exclusive only (don't want 30sec peepers witnessing the toy play). SM girls...what are your thoughts on this?
luscious sadie
01-12-2012, 08:12 PM
I don't use toys unless I'm in exclusive. I clearly state that in my profile and if guys ask for it and give me a low rating, I can get the rating removed because of that.
GlamourRouge
01-12-2012, 09:30 PM
I don't use toys unless I'm in exclusive. I clearly state that in my profile and if guys ask for it and give me a low rating, I can get the rating removed because of that.
What??? You can seriously get Streamate to remove them? Streamate, the same company who returns any email messages with completely different information that you ask them for? How does that work?
luscious sadie
01-12-2012, 09:36 PM
yeah, a guy asked me to do things that I clearly state in my profile I won't do. Within less than 2 minutes he was gone and gave me a 2 rating. I told SM that he gave me a low rating because I wouldn't do things I clearly state in my profile that I won't do. They removed it.
they can look up chat transcripts so don't lie to them about this kind of thing.
TheBrownFox
01-13-2012, 04:39 AM
yeah, a guy asked me to do things that I clearly state in my profile I won't do. Within less than 2 minutes he was gone and gave me a 2 rating. I told SM that he gave me a low rating because I wouldn't do things I clearly state in my profile that I won't do. They removed it.
they can look up chat transcripts so don't lie to them about this kind of thing.
Wow! I'm very surprised to hear that SM, of all cam sites, actually did that for you. And I'm HAPPY to hear this! They did the right thing removing that asshole's rating. :) You shouldn't be penalized for remaining firm about your exclusive/premium rules.
I really do think it's a great idea to take screenshots of conversations whenever you feel suspicious about someone. I can't tell you how many times ImLive customer service has told models "Please send us a screenshot to show us this happening." That used to annoy me when I didn't know what the hell a screenshot was. :P
shywebcamgirl
01-15-2012, 10:51 AM
What??? You can seriously get Streamate to remove them? Streamate, the same company who returns any email messages with completely different information that you ask them for? How does that work?
I know! It blows my mind too but they have done it TWICE for me with no complaint. SM support has been really good to me lately. Either they are getting better, or I have been really lucky, or it is a sign of the upcoming Apocalypse! :O
temptingmodel
01-16-2012, 08:48 PM
The mate removes things that are clearly done in a manner of hate. They understand and look up your history. As long as you are a good model they will b good to you. Support is better during the day.
wetmylipss
01-23-2012, 01:26 PM
to see my cooch its gonna cost ya, and the only way i can be happy with what im doing is to really get some kind of real compisation so hey if im too high then you need a raise or pormotion lmao
neliana
01-23-2012, 11:20 PM
Since I raised my prices I've been making more money for less time, and the guys have overall been much more polite. Raise your prices girls! I really wish I had done it sooner! I'm going to raise them a little bit again tonight ;)
Flickdreams
01-23-2012, 11:21 PM
10000000% Agreed. I saw a girl with a prize wheel reccently and it really urked me out.
PRETTY girl from the US... selling a spin for 20 tokens, people were winning 10 minute skype shows and public hitachi shows, dildo shows, whatever, for $1 in her pocket.... something i'd give a smile and a blown kiss for..
If guys don't want to pay the MFC private rate with me they can move to the next room. That's why I don't do Skype, too many cheapos on there looking for a deal and a model who will budge and do a cheap show because it's "slow" that night.
I started out with high prices and I plan to keep them that way. It takes upwards of 1300 tokens to just get my titties out in public chat. I have yet to be naked there, and though I am sure that will happen eventually it will be at a big cost. I had slow nights in the beginning and still do sometimes with this method but it works for me and they are a hell of a alot more likely to take me private and spend big there instead of tipping a huge amount towards something as simple as tits.
Like misskatie said, if they want FREE or CHEAP they can go to some porntube site and watch recordings, not beg us, people who are ACTUALLY THERE TRYING TO WORK, for cheap deals because "they are horny" or "we are just so hot" or "they just can't buy more tokens now but they will come back and tip you huge next time" - or "other models don't charge that much and do this and that" eff that. Guys go out to the Strip Club and pay $10 a drink all night and get private dances for what (not too clear about general pricing here but) $60+ per 2-3 songs? When you think about it, what they pay to see us camgirls is a FUCKING GOOD DEAL, you don't see any dancers in the champage room riding a sibian fuck machine or pounding herself with a 7 inch dildo whilst using her hitachi as part of her strip show now do you?
/end rant.
Not disagreeing that you camgirls offer your customers a "fucking good deal". Comparing a cam girl to a strip club experience is comparing apples and oranges IMO. Cam is purely visual and Strip clubs are sensate. Cheap customers are cheap wherever they are!
IsobelWren
01-24-2012, 01:36 AM
I dont get it.... so many models on SM with a great position, within the first few rows... $2 for 20. goal `100 ?...
They have worked SO hard to get where they;re at and this is what they do now?
Again, I am not talking about models who sometimes do cheap shows, that is totally ok... High goal, 1-5 pledge. whatever..., now and then..
But I see these models all the time with the same low prices.
This is like getting abused.!
Fuck.. gets me so mad ....
Since when being cheap is sexy ?
I have reached a 450 goal today with $22 pledge for 15 min and 5 more joined after I started.
Yes It took me about 45 min to reach it but I did.
Did not even talk during the show, told them I have company in the house , which I did. Did not even do DP.
Im saying this to let u know, once again, it is possible!
For God's sake, stop being cheap ladies, pleaseeeeeeeeee!!!:computer:
Just to be devil's advocate. Perhaps they're up in the top row because they're so popular because they do those shows at that price.
More devil's advocate, if it took you 45 min to reach the 450 goal you were likely making roughly the same amount of money as the cheap girls were. Unless you mean that the 450 was your cut and not overall total price.
jessycalove
01-24-2012, 05:00 AM
Just to be devil's advocate. Perhaps they're up in the top row because they're so popular because they do those shows at that price.
More devil's advocate, if it took you 45 min to reach the 450 goal you were likely making roughly the same amount of money as the cheap girls were. Unless you mean that the 450 was your cut and not overall total price.
exactly i see girls restarting gold shows and guys get impatient and leave and it took them an hour and made even less, i think what the girls hustle is let them be, ranting about their cheap prices is useless.
SweetPinkCupcake
01-24-2012, 06:06 AM
450 dollar gold show is 157.5. . .
pretty damn good for an hour, if I do say so myself.
Cheap gold shows need to end, I'm sorry.
I have 8 dollars for 8 minutes. Some guys even have the nerve to complain that is too high. Seriously? What the fuck. I have no problem getting privates and exclusives, and my rate is a hell of a lot higher than a dollar a fing minute, let me tell you.
I refuse to dance around and show my ass during a countdown.
I refuse to play the "one more pledge and I'll take off my shirt during free chat so you cheaploaders who don't want to pay 20 cents a minute for my 2 dollar 15 minute gold show can jack off to my tits and leave tehehee" game.
I still manage to make my countdowns, though. (As long as I don't do it around a certain time frame, which I found out is welfare time for me on SM.)
And, my gosh, for what I offer in my gold shows. . a dollar a minute is REALLY CHEAP.
Cheap gold shows need to quit. End of story.
CassieHeart
01-24-2012, 07:24 AM
We have worked at 1.99 a min for a year when traffic was good having 50 people in a party show at 1.99 a min was great money :) Now its not worth it. you need to set your prices high to meet goals with lower traffic and cheap ass customers . I have set my Pvt at 3.99 and 4.99 in exclusive its seems to be working well for us.
TheBrownFox
01-24-2012, 07:47 AM
450 dollar gold show is 157.5. . .
pretty damn good for an hour, if I do say so myself.
Cheap gold shows need to end, I'm sorry.
I have 8 dollars for 8 minutes. Some guys even have the nerve to complain that is too high. Seriously? What the fuck. I have no problem getting privates and exclusives, and my rate is a hell of a lot higher than a dollar a fing minute, let me tell you.
I refuse to dance around and show my ass during a countdown.
I refuse to play the "one more pledge and I'll take off my shirt during free chat so you cheaploaders who don't want to pay 20 cents a minute for my 2 dollar 15 minute gold show can jack off to my tits and leave tehehee" game.
I still manage to make my countdowns, though. (As long as I don't do it around a certain time frame, which I found out is welfare time for me on SM.)
And, my gosh, for what I offer in my gold shows. . a dollar a minute is REALLY CHEAP.
Cheap gold shows need to quit. End of story.
EXACTLY! Gold shows are already giving these guys a great deal (they're paying less than what they'd pay in private chat). Guys shouldn't be trying to negotiate prices/minutes with you DURING a gold show countdown...wtf?
Just like with MFC...if I say I'll get topless when I'm at 500 tokens, don't be asking me "How about topless at 250 tokens instead?" NO! If y'all aren't gonna get me to 500 tokens, you'll just miss out, and you'll just have to IMAGINE that I'm topless...lmao.
lolabunny
01-24-2012, 09:21 AM
OMG!, Im sorry but this is just getting out of hand lol...seriously, what is the big deal? If it's not affecting your hustle then why make a big fuss out of it lol. At the end of the day, it's all about making your goal (or at least to me). For example, If a girl is satisfied for making 200 Gold with a minimum of $2 or $3 buy in for a 6 min show, why get upset? Most likely she isn't upset lol This thread is becoming very little about giving advice and more focused on hate towards girls with low buy-in gold shows...If it doesn't work for you, that's YOUR decision...but don't sit here and be mad that other girls are doing it...It's not a big deal lol
... is 5$ too much to charge for a tittie flash in free chat?
someone asked how much and he was the only guy in my room cause it was dead as hell, and i was like 5$ and he left... :[
lolabunny
01-24-2012, 09:49 AM
Not at all! it could have been $1 and he still would have left....just another asshole expecting free shit:/
Amylh
01-24-2012, 10:10 AM
I tried the same thing and you are so right! I'm sick of the people whinig for free. They don't even want to do 5 gold for 5 mins any more...I actually saw a model give a 20 min gold show for 2gold....I'm just not going to do that...that is nothing, but it's ruining it for everyone else.
TheBrownFox
01-24-2012, 10:58 AM
... is 5$ too much to charge for a tittie flash in free chat?
someone asked how much and he was the only guy in my room cause it was dead as hell, and i was like 5$ and he left... :[
$5 isn't too much to charge. Don't worry...there are guys who will leave your room no matter what price you tell them. They're the ones who think tits/pussy/ass should be free or damn near free. LOL. And $5 Gold for a tit flash is what I would charge too. Oh, and if they complain "That was a pretty quick flash, bb," tell them that's what a "flash" is...duh! :P Or tell them they can tip more, or just take you private.
TheBrownFox
01-24-2012, 11:00 AM
Not at all! it could have been $1 and he still would have left....just another asshole expecting free shit:/
THIS!
I deal with the very same thing on MFC when guys ask "How much for Skype?" I tell them a very reasonable rate, and they A) leave the room without saying anything else, or B) ask "You take PayPal?" LMFAO!
Bianca Brazil
01-24-2012, 11:34 AM
I have made a gold show on SM at $10 for 10 minutes with a $150 goal because guys think is too expensive.
why on earth would anyone only wanna get paid 2$ for 20 min............ they'd be better off getting a min wage job and bullshitting all day than what theyre doing now, and they wouldnt have to show any vag
shywebcamgirl
01-24-2012, 12:28 PM
... is 5$ too much to charge for a tittie flash in free chat?
someone asked how much and he was the only guy in my room cause it was dead as hell, and i was like 5$ and he left... :[
I never flash in free chat. I only go topless in pvt. You should see the amount of complaining I get about that! Topless for 1 GOLD, bb?
Fuck that, I am not going to take off my top for 35 cents. I could make more money cutting freaking coupons out of the newspaper.
SweetPinkCupcake
01-24-2012, 12:49 PM
^YES.
NO to flashing in freechat for me, also. One gold is 35 cents, 5 gold ends up being in the "1 dollar and some cents range." For all those freechat campers to see your tits?? No, thanks! I much rather save the goods for PRIVATE or EXCLUSIVE. (After the 30 second window is up, of course, and then some).
My room on Streamate is NOT myfreecams. Guys have no excuse to camp out in my freechat to try to make small talk and all that for less than 5 dollars gold. Seriously. Those guys get BANNED!
jessycalove
01-24-2012, 01:59 PM
if some girls want to show their tits for 35 cents let them aslong they are happy .i dont look at their pay stats or do i care, some do it for advertise and some do it for tease every one hustle the way they want. cheap girls might be banking to dont knock their hustle.:O:O
lolabunny
01-24-2012, 02:01 PM
Expecting free shit......
This is exactly the point.
Girls who are asking $2 for 20 min... this translated into.. guys paying 10 cents/min... model making 3 cents/minute.
So do the show for free then.
Its almost the same.
No wonder they expect to see for free.
Different strokes for different folks lol...what works for them, may not be what you feel is right...If models want to do that, more power to them...If whoever she was, wanted to do $2 for 20 min, that's totally fine with me, as long as she is satisfied right. Personally, I wouldn't do it but maybe she's the type of person that doesn't mind it one bit...Also, models doing cheap GOLD shows have never affected my earnings yet so I could care less lol......As for free shit, customers can expect all they want, that doesn't mean you're obligated to deliver just because other girls do it:)
roast
01-24-2012, 02:22 PM
if some girls want to show their tits for 35 cents let them aslong they are happy .i dont look at their pay stats or do i care, some do it for advertise and some do it for tease every one hustle the way they want. cheap girls might be banking to dont knock their hustle.:O:O
Yea at this point I see so much free puss and bewb in SM that whoever charges anything for tips to see them gets a thumbs up from me.
I generally agree with the spirit of this thread - but I also think uh not everyone here is practicing what they preach and are just trying to subtly slam certain top row SM performers who also post here. ... but I also have a hatred-hardon for frequent gold shows in general, regardless of pledges - theyre understandably beneficial earnings wise in the short term but it is radically changing the culture of the site in ways that 7-10+ gold for a show (per customer) is now considered "expensive" and fills models rooms with amateur porn directors and men demanding you shoot glitter out of your ass for their $3 pledge. gold shows now fill pirating forums and tube sites to the brim bc piraters dont have to pay PPM fees to steal private content anymore. so I cant fully reconcile a conversation discouraging people from being cheap then charging less than $1 a min for a gold show. Trends are lucrative in the shortterm but longterm create a culture to the site that will drive away top shelf customers and business-minded performers.
But at this point please just charge *something* - SM's culture is changing, being spread eagled nude in free =/= smart business move. Youll just stay in free while 20 people are silently jerking off, 7 are just typing "gold show? gold show? gold show! GOLD SHOW!" and the remaining 5 are barking commands to make you work for their $1. If you plan to cam for more than a few months - it isnt worth it, that's an ugly trajectory.
jessycalove
01-24-2012, 06:57 PM
free pussy is not allowed in sm and models know this. it is about cam girls should charge what they want, what ever float their boat. some girls like fast cash and some dont want to talk all day.
LaurenAus
01-24-2012, 07:06 PM
i get confused when i see girls full on ass naked in free. If you're already naked whatvr ur doing in private must be downright amazing if you're still expecting to make money after giving all the goods away for not even a penny.
LusciousKatya
01-24-2012, 08:45 PM
Yea at this point I see so much free puss and bewb in SM that whoever charges anything for tips to see them gets a thumbs up from me.
I generally agree with the spirit of this thread - but I also think uh not everyone here is practicing what they preach and are just trying to subtly slam certain top row SM performers who also post here. ... but I also have a hatred-hardon for frequent gold shows in general, regardless of pledges - theyre understandably beneficial earnings wise in the short term but it is radically changing the culture of the site in ways that 7-10+ gold for a show (per customer) is now considered "expensive" and fills models rooms with amateur porn directors and men demanding you shoot glitter out of your ass for their $3 pledge. gold shows now fill pirating forums and tube sites to the brim bc piraters dont have to pay PPM fees to steal private content anymore. so I cant fully reconcile a conversation discouraging people from being cheap then charging less than $1 a min for a gold show. Trends are lucrative in the shortterm but longterm create a culture to the site that will drive away top shelf customers and business-minded performers.
But at this point please just charge *something* - SM's culture is changing, being spread eagled nude in free =/= smart business move. Youll just stay in free while 20 people are silently jerking off, 7 are just typing "gold show? gold show? gold show! GOLD SHOW!" and the remaining 5 are barking commands to make you work for their $1. If you plan to cam for more than a few months - it isnt worth it, that's an ugly trajectory.
This is EXACTLY what some of the girls don't understand, when girls are cheap it starts to spread all over and it changes the culture of the site. Why doesn't anyone get it? As a newbie I see this and it makes me cringe. This is true in all industries as well, (sorry business major) all you have to do is see the trends. I believe there was a thread not long ago where some of the veterans were talking about sites when there wasn't any FREE CHAT and they were making a ton of money. The point being, yes things change but it's terrible when the changes coming are detrimental to us all (cam girls). Some of you say we should all mind our own business but the truth of the matter is that these cheap prices will affect us all at some point. It may not be today or tomorrow but it will and with traffic slowing down and more cam girls joining sites it's only nataural that girls will try to compete on price, look at Walmart. We should not be cheap we are a luxury and the guys need to pay and these girls doing free shit need to stop. The low prices need to stop. I know this is job so I can't expect to be on cam for 2 hrs and make fast money. Girls coming in and thinking that 2hrs a day on cam is all they need to do think that charging 1.99 a min of $3 for 15 mins is the way to do it (make fast money) but the end result is that they make the industry cheaper, no one will want to pay a fair price cause these chicks have them use to $3 shows!!!!!
LusciousKatya
01-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Jessycalove,
Yeah, well they do it anyway. I see them on the front page all the time. According to SM if they are not showing their vajayjay, even if they are naked, it's ok. The fact is this is not a get rich quick scheme, one has to put in the time to make the money. This is a real job just like any other if I can understand this as a newbie, why in the world can't everyone else?
So glad that this thread started... I'm now earning twice as much for half as much work :) my non-sore crotch thanks you.