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Vela Valentine
01-03-2013, 12:28 AM
I find 8.99 pvt/7.99 excl works very well for me! :) A dollar raise here and there won't be as noticeable to them as you think! GET WHAT YOU ARE WORTH!

cherryblossomsinspring
01-03-2013, 12:32 AM
I raised all my rates after NYE came in. Everything goes up every year! A cam model's value should do the same!

LolaBohemia
01-03-2013, 01:48 AM
I'm seriously considering it. It's just on ImLive there's such a jump between 3.80 and 4.80 and guys will notice. I just realized that the reason I havent gotten many coming to my room after responding to their fantasty request is because they found someone to do it for less.

Now, you can offer discounts out the wazoo and I would if my price was set to 4.80. It's just the percentage is such shit I feel like my time would be worth it with a higher price. Plus I think it's pretty obvious I offer a lot. I may try it for a few days but terrified of losing regulars.

Classy_Katy
01-03-2013, 01:51 AM
You may lose some regulars but stick with it and some of them will return, and you will also gain new regulars!

sammii
01-03-2013, 02:17 AM
I've been 4.99/5.99 for like ... ever. But I hate free chat, so I'm not sure if I should raise them ... hmm ...

sweetheather
01-03-2013, 03:16 AM
I'm at 5.99/6.49 right now, going to be upping it again soon

LacieDiamond
01-03-2013, 06:28 AM
I have A website i advertise on where i can put my prices. As soon as someone adds me and asks, 'can we do a show for *^*& instead?' I block they're dumb ass. Im lucky I get enough buisness that I can afford to just not deal with cheap assholes. My best advice is, Set a price and stick to it. Your price should reflect what you think your shows are worth, and how much money is a good amount from each show. I charge $25.00 Per 10 minutes, with NO deals. People who actually intend to pay have no problem with my prices, but cheap time wasters COMPLAIN COMPLAIN COMPLAIN!

LacieDiamond
01-03-2013, 06:30 AM
Thats what I did! Amazing results and no one seems to notice but me when im spending all the extra monies! YOU GO GIRLY!

aven
01-03-2013, 09:24 AM
Most of the time when you change prices by alot on whatever site you are on you bring a different type of guy into your room.
It was the easiest for me to see on Niteflirt... when I change 1.69 per min had a different group of guys calling then when I change 2.69 and still a different group when I change 3.69... I find that most guys have their set price range and do not really go outside of it.... I feel that one would be hard press to find a guy that would pay a girl .99 a min then pay another girl 3.99...
so as your prices change so do your regulars and that is ok....

Timor
01-03-2013, 10:41 AM
I have my SM rates set at $5.99 for premium and $4.99 for exclusive and I haven't heard a single complaint yet. That being said I haven't logged a ton of hours - but I did get my first ever 30min block last night and I've been in privates pretty consistently (well, consistently enough to keep me happy and my vag from waving the flag of mercy so far) with those rates. I'm literally brand new on SM. I'm going to stay at these prices for a while and only lower them for special occasions- holiday sales or what have you. Then they'll go right back to where they were. It'll probably be a while yet before I actually raise my raise - and that'll only be after testing the water and keeping an eye on what other, similar girls are charging.
I reallyreallyREALLY wish MFC let us charge our own rates. Or at least boot guys or give them a prompt to pay the hell up if they've been lurking too long. I don't use the encoder (not yet, anyway) and I'm not sure I will use it. I have it installed just in case.
I have sound, a pretty clear picture, not the best cam but it does the trick, and I stream in HD. Where I live has a stupid good internet plan so I have superfast internet as well. Here's to hoping for the minimum of "discount bb?" :)

TheBrownFox
01-03-2013, 11:00 AM
I'm seriously considering it. It's just on ImLive there's such a jump between 3.80 and 4.80 and guys will notice. I just realized that the reason I havent gotten many coming to my room after responding to their fantasty request is because they found someone to do it for less.

Now, you can offer discounts out the wazoo and I would if my price was set to 4.80. It's just the percentage is such shit I feel like my time would be worth it with a higher price. Plus I think it's pretty obvious I offer a lot. I may try it for a few days but terrified of losing regulars.


Maybe for this January 1 - January 15 ImLive pay period, try 4.80. I think you should stick to it for AT LEAST a week or two.

I think a while back I saw that ImLive has a 'Midnight Madness' discount code template for the mailing list feature. So you can send out a message to your mailing list, letting them know that midnight is the time to get a discounted show. I THINK that's what it was. It's been a while since I've used their mailing list feature.

justanothercamgirl
01-03-2013, 08:30 PM
For those girls who are afraid you'll never get a private again if you raise your prices. I am currently at $9.99/$14.99.

Now, I am not saying this price structure will work for you -- but I can tell you that I still get privates. :mischievo

Via Flaminia
01-03-2013, 08:36 PM
You guys i'm so scared. I just requested for SM to change my prices to 4.99/5.99 from 3.99/4.99. I'm so scared what if nobody takes me private anymore ? Im so nervous to try my new prices tomorrow, wish me luck you guys.(biting my nails).

Good luck Judy! :)

bigbootyjudy1
01-03-2013, 09:11 PM
You guys i'm so scared. I just requested for SM to change my prices to 4.99/5.99 from 3.99/4.99. I'm so scared what if nobody takes me private anymore ? Im so nervous to try my new prices tomorrow, wish me luck you guys.(biting my nails).


The results are in .I'm still getting privates:) Not as much (maybe it was a slow day )but I still reached my goal faster cuz im charging more .Just like someone said on here "work smarter ,not harder ":) Thank you so much you guys for the courage to raise my prices and realize my worth.Go gurls, make 2013 a money making year :)

xxtinamariexx
01-03-2013, 09:18 PM
Well, I upped mine from $5.99/6.69 to 6.69/7.99... I was on at a different time then normal today but still had regulars and still had guys going exclusive... but I don't think as many as I normally would have.. now not sure if it was because the time I was on (not my normal time) or if it was because of my rates.. I'm glad you said to wait 2 weeks BrownFox, was tempted to change it back before I saw that :) Looking forward to next week when kids are back to school
and I can get normal again!

neliana
01-03-2013, 11:58 PM
I'm seriously considering it. It's just on ImLive there's such a jump between 3.80 and 4.80 and guys will notice. I just realized that the reason I havent gotten many coming to my room after responding to their fantasty request is because they found someone to do it for less.

Now, you can offer discounts out the wazoo and I would if my price was set to 4.80. It's just the percentage is such shit I feel like my time would be worth it with a higher price. Plus I think it's pretty obvious I offer a lot. I may try it for a few days but terrified of losing regulars.

I charge 5.90 /min on Imlive and I still get shows :) I do spend more time then Id like in free chat , but they def still pay. I log on there every now and then so I don't have much of a following on there and I still get shows at that rate .

nikk
01-04-2013, 12:12 AM
Just stop.
Cause if its working, please, brag about your income due to CHEAP shows price.
Please do tell. Is it worth it?
Are you making more then me and the others who are not cheap?

Ewww, just ewww to those doing this kind of work for cheap. You make it harder for the rest of us actually trying to make a living. Have some respect for yourselves whomever is doing this. There should be some sort of ethics code for us in this industry, really.
Please. Stop. Being Cheap !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edit: This is not for the foreign models who cant do better.
That I got. They cant do better. To them $1 is God on Earth.
This is for the US/UK/Canada ladies who speak perfect English and CAN do better.

YOU KNOW people in these countries tip more then $5 to a waitress, just to bring a plate with food at their table.
And you are charging $1- $3 to Fuck yourself LIVE?
I get it, once, twice ... its all good....marketing at its best....
But all the time????!?!?
Is it worth being cheap?

Ewww, just eww to those who are doing this kind of work for cheap. I mean really have some sort of respect for yourselves if your charging less than what a waitress is tipped to do this kind of work you need to not do this cause your in the way. Girls like this make it harder for those of us actually trying to make a living. There should be some sort of code of ethics for our industry.

Sugarmama
01-04-2013, 03:02 AM
Here is a question for everyone screaming raise your rates raise raise!!!! What if what has happened to me happens to them which means my customer's have dropped off, I am having to work longer hr's just to make what I did at a lower rate in a few, and those oh so new customer's aren't coming to replace the one's who dropped off? Does the girl stay at the rate in hopes she will build new clients while in the meantime drowning.

People keep saying we are a luxury they should pay. However, we forget to realize that yes we are a luxury and what do people do when they can no longer afford that luxury: 1.) Visits become less frequent 2.)They find other alternatives 3.)They cut the luxury out if their budget.

I am not saying a person shouldn't raise their price but the main question is can i afford to.

Classy_Katy
01-04-2013, 03:18 AM
I've raised and lowered my prices again to find the right balance...it is really hard when you have to factor in other things like the particular month or even the week in that month, the difference between the 2 amounts, there are so many variables.

loveshooks
01-04-2013, 04:17 AM
Here is a question for everyone screaming raise your rates raise raise!!!! What if what has happened to me happens to them which means my customer's have dropped off, I am having to work longer hr's just to make what I did at a lower rate in a few, and those oh so new customer's aren't coming to replace the one's who dropped off? Does the girl stay at the rate in hopes she will build new clients while in the meantime drowning.

People keep saying we are a luxury they should pay. However, we forget to realize that yes we are a luxury and what do people do when they can no longer afford that luxury: 1.) Visits become less frequent 2.)They find other alternatives 3.)They cut the luxury out if their budget.

I am not saying a person shouldn't raise their price but the main question is can i afford to.

How long have you had your rates up? Did you notice the drop immediately upon raising your rates? In asking those questions I'm raising the idea that since camming income can fluctuate vastly from day to day when one is first starting out, unless you experiment with different rates over a longish period of time you'll never know whether the rate increase was responsible for the slowdown, or whether you're just experiencing a slump that happens to every newer cam chica occasionally.

Ultimately, you need to figure out what rates work best for you. You aren't accountable to anyone here for how much you charge, and you should never let anyone push their idea of 'proper' rates on you like it's some sort of ethical obligation. This is about YOUR $$$$, not about proving yourself to a bunch of strangers who don't pay your bills. When you're not earning the $$$$ you want/need, you need to try something new. Change your room, mix up your style, experiment with your rates. Adjust various factors until you end up with the $$$$ you need and want.

Also remember (as has been pointed out before) that many sm chicas here who charge higher-than-average per min rates also often do gold shows that work out to very low per min prices. That's a form of adaptation that has nothing to do with the 'ethics' of not being 'cheap' ::). It's simply a matter of charging what the market will bear at any given moment in order to reap the best $$$$ rewards possible, and it sounds like that's what you're in the process of figuring out. I look at it like we all have an individual 'sweet spot' strategy that enables us each earn the most $$$$ possible most efficiently, and figuring out yours is your goal. By all means be inspired by this thread to test your boundaries and try new things, but keep experimenting until things work for you. If you're feeling insecure about the concept of raising your rates, keep detailed logs of what you earn per hour on any given day at different per min rates so that you can assure yourself that you're not falsely ascribing one variable among many as the cause of every slow shift, but never feel like you have to choose some arbitrary rate per min number based on the judgement of others.

I wish you good luck. Changing things up can be really frustrating cuz there's enough variables to make a head spin, but you'll get there if you keep on experimenting and pushing through. Rates are a factor, and only you can figure out what your sweet spot is. You're accountable to no one here for that.

peace and $$$$$$

Sugarmama
01-04-2013, 05:03 AM
I have had the rate up since the second week of Dec. what i saw was regular's come in speak to me and have a little conversation then they were gone.

You are right when you say there are so many variables to factor in. They do make your head spin right now I am taking into account we just came out of a holiday.

When you raise your rate and know you give good service but just can't make it convert the way you want you end up questioning well at least me if i should keep going on.


How long have you had your rates up? Did you notice the drop immediately upon raising your rates? In asking those questions I'm raising the idea that since camming income can fluctuate vastly from day to day when one is first starting out, unless you experiment with different rates over a longish period of time you'll never know whether the rate increase was responsible for the slowdown, or whether you're just experiencing a slump that happens to every newer cam chica occasionally.

Ultimately, you need to figure out what rates work best for you. You aren't accountable to anyone here for how much you charge, and you should never let anyone push their idea of 'proper' rates on you like it's some sort of ethical obligation. This is about YOUR $$$$, not about proving yourself to a bunch of strangers who don't pay your bills. When you're not earning the $$$$ you want/need, you need to try something new. Change your room, mix up your style, experiment with your rates. Adjust various factors until you end up with the $$$$ you need and want.

Also remember (as has been pointed out before) that many sm chicas here who charge higher-than-average per min rates also often do gold shows that work out to very low per min prices. That's a form of adaptation that has nothing to do with the 'ethics' of not being 'cheap' ::). It's simply a matter of charging what the market will bear at any given moment in order to reap the best $$$$ rewards possible, and it sounds like that's what you're in the process of figuring out. I look at it like we all have an individual 'sweet spot' strategy that enables us each earn the most $$$$ possible most efficiently, and figuring out yours is your goal. By all means be inspired by this thread to test your boundaries and try new things, but keep experimenting until things work for you. If you're feeling insecure about the concept of raising your rates, keep detailed logs of what you earn per hour on any given day at different per min rates so that you can assure yourself that you're not falsely ascribing one variable among many as the cause of every slow shift, but never feel like you have to choose some arbitrary rate per min number based on the judgement of others.

I wish you good luck. Changing things up can be really frustrating cuz there's enough variables to make a head spin, but you'll get there if you keep on experimenting and pushing through. Rates are a factor, and only you can figure out what your sweet spot is. You're accountable to no one here for that.

peace and $$$$$$

CinnimonKiss
01-04-2013, 05:24 AM
I just recently upped my prices and that night was my highest earning night in history of camming. It WORKS !

justanothercamgirl
01-04-2013, 09:47 AM
Also remember (as has been pointed out before) that many sm chicas here who charge higher-than-average per min rates also often do gold shows that work out to very low per min prices. That's a form of adaptation that has nothing to do with the 'ethics' of not being 'cheap' ::). It's simply a matter of charging what the market will bear at any given moment in order to reap the best $$$$ rewards possible, and it sounds like that's what you're in the process of figuring out.

As usual, loveshooks has brought up an VERY important point. I can tell you straight out that I would never have my rates as high as I do if I didn't have the ability to do gold shows to get me through the 'lean times.' My gold show end up being very successful because guys know that if they don't get in on those 'cheap prices' they will be back to paying $9.99/$14.99 a minute again. I only do striptease in my gold shows so guys know that if they want more they have to pay the per minute price and so the cheap gold shows end up getting me more privates in the end and fills up the time inbeween the 'big spenders'.

I would personally NOT recommend raising your per minute rate sky high if you do not have gold shows yet.

AriaLove
01-04-2013, 09:50 AM
I had my prices at 4 p/m, raised them to 6 (granted this is on mgf as I haven't signed up for sm yet) and i had NO takers for 2 days. I really hate being at 4 p/m. I think I'm going to finally motivate myself to just fill out SM's crap application lol. Just sucks that I don't have a scanner.

Incantatious
01-04-2013, 01:48 PM
When I did GOLD shows constantly, my rates were 9.99 premium & 14.99 exclusive. Did I get many privates? No, because 90% of my work was GOLD shows anyway. I wouldn't know.

When I got bored of doing nothing but GOLD shows and went back to relying mostly on privates, I lowered my premium rate to 5.99 (now 5.49 for reasons I will detail later) but kept my 14.99 exclusive.

For me personally: I hate free chat.
I hate waiting for GOLD show countdowns too...

This is evident for how I now just do countdowns for like just 4 mins, and if my $100 - $200+ targets aren't met, no show happens! ;D All I do is let on that I'm "too fucking horny to wait around" and it's back to privates! Usually with a fuller room too, because the GOLD show countdown brought in more guys than if there would have been no countdown.

When I have my rates set way high, I get less privates.
Combine that with the fact that I also don't like working for very long. 3 hours at the most; 5 hours at a stretch; 8 hours if I'm desperate; - it's mostly a couple hours a night - and you have one burned out camgirl working free chat for a few big spenders.

I set my premium at around the 5.49 - 5.99 because that for me is the sweet spot where I'm used to entertaining more than one guy in premium at a time and FREQUENTLY. "Frequency" really is the key word here. - No sitting for ages waiting for what might end up to just being me removing and putting my underwear back on, then straight back to free chat for another round.. Yawn..

I much prefer "cheaper" expensive rates (lol), but be more used to performing, with guys coming in and out. I make more this way because it keeps me going, keeps my mind working, keeps my body moving, keeps me actually working (which is what I'm there for!), and keeps me entertained. Heck, I don't even mind those 30-second "peepers", because they do fuck up! And they can fuck up their plans a LOT! ;D - They can stay on for as much as a few seconds too long, and bam! - I have their money too. They really do add up.

And as for 14.99 exclusive - if it's gonna be just ONE, it had better be worth my time! If they don't want to pay 14.99, then they can get into premium: with the others! XD

JackAlexander
01-04-2013, 02:11 PM
I had my prices at 4 p/m, raised them to 6 (granted this is on mgf as I haven't signed up for sm yet) and i had NO takers for 2 days. I really hate being at 4 p/m. I think I'm going to finally motivate myself to just fill out SM's crap application lol. Just sucks that I don't have a scanner.

Do you have a smartphone? I have a droid. There is a camera scanner app. I gave away my old jalopy scanner and use this only, it is beautiful.

Incantatious
01-04-2013, 02:16 PM
Do you have a smartphone? I have a droid. There is a camera scanner app. I gave away my old jalopy scanner and use this only, it is beautiful.

Even if you don't have a smartphone - you can use your webcam! XD

I used mine to apply for Streamate and MFC and it served perfect. :)

JackAlexander
01-04-2013, 04:30 PM
UPDATE:
Hope this inspires someone...

Raised my rates again..... I am dumbfounded...... um... no one balked a word at the dollar increase.... this is my second month camming as my only source of income and I have worked my way up to 4.99/5.99, This may still be cheap still to some, but considering I was at 1.99/2.99 before I read the post from Fridays a month ago I am getting there. I just requested SM to allow me to go up to 7.99.... why at least not try.

I am flipping amazed, just amazed.... We are scared no one can afford us if we raise our rates, so afraid we will not make any money. Malarkey- 1 day after raising my rates I got the longest exclusive ever- 2 HOURS from a hot 25 year old that I just adored!!!! Made my daily goal in 2 hours apposed to what would have taken a little over 3 hours at my lower rate. A WHOLE HOUR OF TIME YA'LL!!!!!!! How much more money can you make in another hour or what would you do with that extra hour outside of cam???? Time is $$$$$
I love looking at my avg per hour now.... WOWOWOWOWOWOWOW!!! I just gave myself avg $16+ per hour raise. $21 if I was in exclusive all hour!! From only $1 increase,

I was the girl who always needed to be in private all the time or I thought no one liked me if I was not; my self esteem would be shot for the day or very worried I was not going to make my weekly goal (paranoid!).

Do i get back to back privates now... not so much... does my vagina/body thank me HELL YEA... does my bank account appreciate me? Hell YEA... I sucked up my self esteem issue and went for it.. my self esteem is better knowing that I can charge more and they still keep cummmiiinggg.... LOL


proof is in the pudding.... and remember no matter what your rates are... we all have bad days.... do not automatically blame your rates as the culprit.

Good Luck ladies and gents

THANK THANK THANK THANK THANK THANK YOU FRIDAYS!!!!!!!!!!




I could not agree more. I have been at camming regularly FT for a month. After reading the post by Fridays I said to myself - WTF! She is right, all the stupid shit we put up with and the overhead we have, and yea I think I am worth more to fuck myself. Hell most strippers do not even take off their underwear!

Day after day I steadily increased my rates. I was afraid no one would pay. Well they do pay and then some; I get tipped better. If you think your worth it and think your shit doesn't stink then they will think it as well.

I just looked at my stats after doing this. I worked 4 hours less and made $200 more after the first week of doing this - just try it. Fridays I owe you a fat tip!

Fridays
01-04-2013, 04:37 PM
yay!!!! :dance:

christinarita
01-09-2013, 01:25 PM
ok I am pretty new to camming (about 3 weeks). I kept the default rate of 2.99 for party chat. When I log in I am in "free chat", but a lot of the customers ask me to do things in there that I feel I should be getting tipped for, i.e.:

deep throat a dildo
flash my tits
bend over doggie style (I don't in free)
put my finger in my vag and show them

so am I uptight and this is standard stuff for free chat? My site (cams.com) also has "tipping chat" but I don't really understand it. I'd like to be able to get a tip for each of those requests. Is tipping chat the way to do that and maybe I should go there?

I'd like to smile and chat and be friendly as I am now, and not be all preoccupied with prices, posting them in my chat box, etc. And I don't want to sit there saying "no no no" all the time but they keep requesting this stuff and not tipping (except for compliments and talk is cheap)!!!

any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

christinarita
01-09-2013, 01:27 PM
ok I am about 3 weeks new to camming. I kept at the default rate of 2.99 for private chat.

When I log in I find myself in "free chat" where customers ask me to do the following:

deep throat a dildo
flash my tits
bend over doggie style (I don't in free)
put my finger in my vag and show them
change clothes

so is this standard stuff for free chat or is it stuff that I can get tipped for? My site (cams.com) also has "tipping chat" but I don't really understand it. Maybe I should go there?

I'd like to smile and chat and be friendly and not be all preoccupied with prices, posting them in my chat box, etc. And I don't want to sit there saying "no no no" all the time but they keep requesting this stuff and not tipping (except for the compliments and talk is cheap)!!!

advice would be appreciated, thanks.

ManyRoses
01-09-2013, 01:28 PM
ok I am pretty new to camming (about 3 weeks). I kept the default rate of 2.99 for party chat. When I log in I am in "free chat", but a lot of the customers ask me to do things in there that I feel I should be getting tipped for, i.e.:

deep throat a dildo
flash my tits
bend over doggie style (I don't in free)
put my finger in my vag and show them

so am I uptight and this is standard stuff for free chat? My site (cams.com) also has "tipping chat" but I don't really understand it. I'd like to be able to get a tip for each of those requests. Is tipping chat the way to do that and maybe I should go there?

I'd like to smile and chat and be friendly as I am now, and not be all preoccupied with prices, posting them in my chat box, etc. And I don't want to sit there saying "no no no" all the time but they keep requesting this stuff and not tipping (except for compliments and talk is cheap)!!!

any advice would be appreciated, thanks.

Good Lord! Never do any of that for free!!! Cams works fairly similarly to MFC in a lot of ways, where you can build up a number of tokens from multiple users to do a show...but you should definitely not be deepthroating for free!

StephanieXS
01-09-2013, 03:47 PM
ok I am about 3 weeks new to camming. I kept at the default rate of 2.99 for private chat.

When I log in I find myself in "free chat" where customers ask me to do the following:

deep throat a dildo
flash my tits
bend over doggie style (I don't in free)
put my finger in my vag and show them
change clothes

so is this standard stuff for free chat or is it stuff that I can get tipped for? My site (cams.com) also has "tipping chat" but I don't really understand it. Maybe I should go there?

I'd like to smile and chat and be friendly and not be all preoccupied with prices, posting them in my chat box, etc. And I don't want to sit there saying "no no no" all the time but they keep requesting this stuff and not tipping (except for the compliments and talk is cheap)!!!

advice would be appreciated, thanks.

They know you're still new. DON'T do any of that. I only did free and private on cams (I turned off party) but I never did anything in free except basically show that I was pretty and had a good personality. NEVER do anything in free. If they ask for you to stand, turn around, anything. Ask for a tip. Also, on cams you can't show any nudity in free chat. Tipping chat you can but, I'd suggest not doing tipping chat. Also, are you getting this requests in free chat or party? Side note, cams.com works nothing like MFC. Almost just like Streammate. Also, never show tips in free chat. The only time they allow tits for tips is during holiday weeks. Otherwise it's a BIG no.

ManyRoses
01-09-2013, 03:53 PM
Also, are you getting this requests in free chat or party? Side note, cams.com works nothing like MFC. Almost just like Streammate. Also, never show tips in free chat. The only time they allow tits for tips is during holiday weeks. Otherwise it's a BIG no.

I think that I am thinking of "tipping chat" on cams, then. I don't work it, but that is what I saw, and the impression that I have got from others who work there.

StephanieXS
01-09-2013, 03:57 PM
I think that I am thinking of "tipping chat" on cams, then. I don't work it, but that is what I saw, and the impression that I have got from others who work there.

Yeah, that's just tipping chat. And from what I get no one ever uses it. It makes you show up as offline on cams and I think the only site you're online on is striptease or something. Tipping chat BLOWS.

christinarita
01-09-2013, 05:01 PM
They know you're still new. DON'T do any of that. I only did free and private on cams (I turned off party) but I never did anything in free except basically show that I was pretty and had a good personality. NEVER do anything in free. If they ask for you to stand, turn around, anything. Ask for a tip. Also, on cams you can't show any nudity in free chat. Tipping chat you can but, I'd suggest not doing tipping chat. Also, are you getting this requests in free chat or party? Side note, cams.com works nothing like MFC. Almost just like Streammate. Also, never show tips in free chat. The only time they allow tits for tips is during holiday weeks. Otherwise it's a BIG no.

Wow. wow. wow. OK good to know. I'm doing wayyyy too much then. Honestly I had no idea what the limits were, but I'm like that in real life too :-).

I need to get better at ignoring their requests in a friendly way. Maybe should spend some time looking at the other free chat models. Thanks.

Sunnylexie
01-09-2013, 05:07 PM
Set my pvt rate at 2.99 - upped it like .5 on holidays. I know it sounds ridiculous, but, given I had to start with .99, that is damn much. I'm so nervous about it! :'(

ManyRoses
01-09-2013, 05:10 PM
Wow. wow. wow. OK good to know. I'm doing wayyyy too much then. Honestly I had no idea what the limits were, but I'm like that in real life too :-).

I need to get better at ignoring their requests in a friendly way. Maybe should spend some time looking at the other free chat models. Thanks.

You don't need to ignore requests, per se - and I actually wouldn't recommend it - it's a great way to lose customers! Just respond to their requests to let them know what they need to do to see it.

So "show tits" gets the response "mmmm...if you want to see my AMAZING boobies, you just have to ask with a little tip!"

aven
01-09-2013, 08:46 PM
don't be afraid to lose your old cheap regulars because you will gain new ones that pay your high price that you make more money off and are nicer....
I do find that the higher your rates are the nicer the guys are who you have to deal with.
I could never make it on sm if my rate where lower because I do not like the type of guys that it draws and those guys are more likely to give me a bad ratings...
I have had it happened so many times when I played with my rates on sm.... every time I lowered them I would get more demanding and rude guys and more negative feedback.

housewench
01-09-2013, 10:20 PM
I had guys who complained I was too expensive come back and finally buy a show after I raised prices! They CAN be converted!

Missbeth
01-11-2013, 08:37 PM
SM was slow today, but then it got completely dead. I logged off and decided to perv the site for a few minutes before editing videos. I saw two different girls in my niche doing 10 minute hardcore shows for $1. Neither of them made their goals (wonder why???). Way to fuck up everyone's money, gals! Grumble.

The past 3 days on SM have been painfully slow for me...
I noticed he same thing tho tonight....girls doing cheaper gold shows....lots of $1,$2, and $3 ones.......I understand lowering your overall goal if its slower but not the buy in....its doesn't work if you make the show cheaper with the same or proportionally equivalent goal. A $2/6 minute show with a $100 goal needs 50 guys and so does a $6/6min show with a $300 goal....and if traffic is slow you wont meet either...

Pearl_Sugar
01-11-2013, 08:46 PM
I'm starting to think that SM is actually LOSING money from gold shows. Guys that have the money to buy pvts/excs are going to gold shows and blowing their loads instead. Ever perved in a room with girls who run $1/10 minute gold shows? They have like 60+ guys in there. And active contributors. If someone asks ME to run a $1 gold show, you know what I do? I run a $1, ONE MINUTE gold show. If it meets goal, GREAT. If not, at least I proved a point that they won't get shit from me. XD I'll give you a one-minute preview. You'll be lucky if I get all of my clothes off in that time. Hehe.

Missbeth
01-11-2013, 08:57 PM
I'm starting to think that SM is actually LOSING money from gold shows. Guys that have the money to buy pvts/excs are going to gold shows and blowing their loads instead. Ever perved in a room with girls who run $1/10 minute gold shows? They have like 60+ guys in there. And active contributors. If someone asks ME to run a $1 gold show, you know what I do? I run a $1, ONE MINUTE gold show. If it meets goal, GREAT. If not, at least I proved a point that they won't get shit from me. XD I'll give you a one-minute preview. You'll be lucky if I get all of my clothes off in that time. Hehe.
If they were I think they'd put a limit on how cheap you can go....like 2 minutes or every dollar....
Think amazon books.....book sellers on amazon sell books for $0.01.... you basically pay the shipping when you're paying $4 or under for a book on there... but they sell SO MANY books they still profit....some of these guys go to 10+ Gold shows a night whereas if there was only a private option they'd only go to one private show a night...
They probably spend the same amount of money on average that they would if there wasn't gold shows now they just want more bang for their buck which = cheap
Sure if i had $30 to eat I could go to Mcdonalds and buy 30 mcdoubles and eat for the month or I could go to Outback and get a nice steak because Im not cheap...but i know plenty of ppl who would choose the Mcdoubles..

CarmenF
01-12-2013, 03:39 AM
I AM ABOUT TO HAVE A MENTAL BREAKDOWN.
A few months ago I joined this not american cam girl forum and started being active.. I understand why clients try to lowball you.
A man asked if it's fair that a domme show costs more than a fingering one, others girls claim that you can bank on streamate because you can lower your fee to 1,80$... I am about to have a heart attack.
How the fuck can their prices and minds be so cheap? A girl charges you what the fuck she wants.
Fuck forums where men are allowed, they'll just throw shit at you and lowball girls.

Sunnylexie
01-12-2013, 04:32 AM
I did some study on my Streamate statistics. What I found out is that, on Streamate, with your prices at 1.49 and 2.99, you can cam over 40 hrs a week, spend over 80% time in paid chat and earn over 1000 a week - but all of these will never get your placement higher than page 2 (with 50 models displayed). Upping them gradually to 2.49 and 4. 09 moved me to page 1. Last time I added $.5 to my prices, it got me like 3 rows higher (when online, 4 pages when offline) while my earnings increased just slightly and paid time percentage went down. Its obvious that, the more you charge, the more promotion Streamate gives you.

CarmenF
01-12-2013, 04:43 AM
I wish there was a way to shout at all these girls to stop lowering themselves so much, not for me but for them. Honestly that is why I only work with american sites... and those who charge so low on STreamate live using euros! So they get a shit nothing.

TheBrownFox
01-12-2013, 12:39 PM
If someone asks ME to run a $1 gold show, you know what I do? I run a $1, ONE MINUTE gold show.


Exactly...me too! LOL. :P

TheBrownFox
01-12-2013, 12:56 PM
SM was slow today, but then it got completely dead. I logged off and decided to perv the site for a few minutes before editing videos. I saw two different girls in my niche doing 10 minute hardcore shows for $1. Neither of them made their goals (wonder why???). Way to fuck up everyone's money, gals! Grumble.


This is what I've seen...this particular model would offer a $1 Gold show because she says it's a way to allow everyone to just chip in what they can afford. I get what she's saying, BUT...then a bunch of guys will send her $1, and then she'll get mad at them and say "Joe, please don't tip me a dollar...please chip in more..." Then she's basically scolding everyone in the room for only sending $1. Well, the guy is only following YOUR room topic instructions! LOL. Instead of getting mad at him, just change the Gold show info to, say, a $5 minimum instead.

If you're trying to make a $200 Gold show, yet you're only requiring $1 for a spot, and you've only got 20 people in your room, then you'd better hope all 20 of those guys send you $10 Gold. You've gotta work out the math ahead of time so that it's a realistic goal, based on your buy-in amount and room count. And having a Gold show attempt fail several times in a row, and then you keep restarting it, is wasting your time that you could've been spending in premium or exclusive.

KrissyFox
01-12-2013, 01:27 PM
Okay, I'm new to cam modeling so I am trying to figure out how to set up prices. I get .05 cents per tip & idk on the rest still trying to figure that stuff out. Can someone help me so I can make money?!

RaineyLane
01-12-2013, 03:45 PM
There are cheap girls of all nationalities!! I have seen American girls (and other nationalities) on MFC being incredibly cheap! I wish they would stop. Does anyone want to write and post a "memo" or something deemed tasteful and non-offensive that we can say to the cheap girls?! LOL I'm only gonna hold my tongue for so long and when/if I say something, it probably won't be nice! Maybe add a link to SW so they can learn more and stop fucking it all up? Any of our more eloquent, experienced ladies want to write something? I'm TOTALLY SERIOUS about this...