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SarahTime
07-01-2014, 03:14 PM
I assume the girl posting is in the UK, it's not really like that here. Nobody ever hears about sex workers in the media unless they put themselves in the media by choice and by writing a story into the media. The only time non-consented stories go into the media is from actual celebs.
Porn is viewed very differently here, it's very highly unlikely any boss will sake any person here for having a past of camming or stripping (Unless your a teacher then maybe)

I didn't get she was in the UK from her 3 posts... I must have missed something.

GlamourRouge
07-01-2014, 03:16 PM
I assume the girl posting is in the UK, it's not really like that here. Nobody ever hears about sex workers in the media unless they put themselves in the media by choice and by writing a story into the media. The only time non-consented stories go into the media is from actual celebs.
Porn is viewed very differently here, it's very highly unlikely any boss will sake any person here for having a past of camming or stripping (Unless your a teacher then maybe)


Ummmm...

a UK news source
a UK teacher

I'm sure there's more

scarletl
07-01-2014, 03:17 PM
I didn't get she was in the UK from her 3 posts... I must have missed something.

I kinda grasped it from the way she talks, she may well not be?
In the UK (from what i've found and read about) being in the porn industry isn't really frowned upon and people don't seem to see it as a big deal for some very strange reason.

GlamourRouge
07-01-2014, 03:18 PM
I kinda grasped it from the way she talks, she may well not be?
In the UK (from what i've found and read about) being in the porn industry isn't really frowned upon and people don't seem to see it as a big deal for some very strange reason.

You might want to read the articles above then lol

scarletl
07-01-2014, 03:21 PM
Ummmm...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2263238/Porn-star-Tiffany-Six-turned-biology-teacher-loses-appeal-return-classroom.html a UK news source
http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/53854/teacher-fired-porn-career-defends-himself-court a UK teacher

I'm sure there's more

That's in teaching which is totally understandable hence I mentioned unless your a teacher. General other jobs and careers such as a web designer, supermarket worker etc would not get the sack for having a camming past. Obviously each company has their own preference on who they choose and if you told them then depending on how open minded they are may not choose you to work in their company. But if it does not involve kids of any sort, it really wouldn't be a problem at all.
Infact I am pretty sure if you was refused a general job like supermarket work based on the fact you was a stripper of some sort would be discrimination?

GlamourRouge
07-01-2014, 03:22 PM
That's in teaching which is totally understandable hence I mentioned unless your a teacher. General other jobs and careers such as a web designer, supermarket worker etc would not get the sack for having a camming past. Obviously each company has their own preference on who they choose and if you told them then depending on how open minded they are may not choose you to work in their company. But if it does not involve kids of any sort, it really wouldn't be a problem at all.
Infact I am pretty sure if you was refused a general job like supermarket work based on the fact you was a stripper of some sort would be discrimination?

Those stories wouldn't make the news because its not ~*scandalous*~, but that doesn't mean you can't get fired for it. It just won't be in the media, but it is considered "unprofessional conduct"

The reason why strippers are not discriminated against is because no one can PROVE you were a stripper. No one takes pictures or videos of you, and if it comes up on a background check, it can be passed for a bartender or staff instead of a dancer and no one could prove otherwise, unlike camming which, if your pop-ups or videos are out there somewhere (either now or in the future), its cold hard evidence.

scarletl
07-01-2014, 03:28 PM
Those stories wouldn't make the news because its not ~*scandalous*~, but that doesn't mean you can't get fired for it. It just won't be in the media, but it is considered "unprofessional conduct"

The reason why strippers are not discriminated against is because no one can PROVE you were a stripper. No one takes pictures or videos of you, and if it comes up on a background check, it can be passed for a bartender or staff instead of a dancer and no one could prove otherwise, unlike camming which, if your pop-ups or videos are out there somewhere (either now or in the future), its cold hard evidence.

That is true and obviously where we are recorded in one way or another it is then deemed as porn.

Any company you work for will state whether they do background checks (some do and some don't) depending on your choice of career. The main jobs that do background checks are those where you are responsible for the public (Bus drivers, any public transport drivers, teachers, cab drivers, social care etc).

GlamourRouge
07-01-2014, 03:30 PM
That is true and obviously where we are recorded in one way or another it is then deemed as porn.

Any company you work for will state whether they do background checks (some do and some don't) depending on your choice of career. The main jobs that do background checks are those where you are responsible for the public (Bus drivers, any public transport drivers, teachers, cab drivers, social care etc).

Yes but I'm sure if someone emailed your boss a link (for example, your competitive coworker) or your boss stumbled upon the porn, I don't think they would take it very lightly.

Camigirl
07-01-2014, 03:33 PM
Do you think a social worker and veterinarian would be okay?

I bet yes! You would be fine. I may fear that a kid would get a picture of me online (because the kids seem to be all over porn like a fly on shit) and show it around if I worked with kids, that's me though.
Then again... follow your dream. You had not worked long enough on cam, and don't have to put down cam performer on any resume.

Good luck.

scarletl
07-01-2014, 03:35 PM
Yes but I'm sure if someone emailed your boss a link (for example, your competitive coworker) or your boss stumbled upon the porn, I don't think they would take it very lightly.

I think that really would depend.
If your a hard worker and are good at your job and an asset to that company, there would be no reason why it would cause you to lose your job.

If I was a business owner of a large company and employed someone who done porn in their past and they had proven to be a good worker, then I would base my judgement on that. There are however, people out there who just would not want that associated with their company. And if we're honest, if your boss is watching porn it's unlikely he will be open enough about it to come to you and say that.

Maybe I'm just different I've never felt judged as a cam girl by anyone. I don't feel the world will judge me (and don't really care if they did). I don't get worried or concerned about people I know finding me online or worry that I have a restricted future because of what I have done, I don't believe there will be any restrictions.
If I felt any different I wouldn't have made the decision to come into this line of work.

KatyBoleyn
07-01-2014, 04:28 PM
I think people are still under the assumption that what makes the news is how it always goes down. When we have a sex scandal, it makes the news. When its ignored, it doesn't. There'd be no way to collect statistics on it, but I'd bet my left nipple that for every "outed and fired" story you hear about:
a) There may have been other extenuating circumstances that we didn't hear about, and previous sex work wasn't the only factor in the story.
b) There are 30 to 50 (100?) other stories where it was like Boss: "I think that was you." ex-cammodel: "No it wasn't" Boss: "Ok, carry on, none my bidness anyways." and another 100 where nothing ever happened.

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An aside, I don't think the OP was trolling. There's a lot of fear in this world about everything, especially fueled by a sensational media that doesn't always lead to a realistic perspective.

LaylaLovely
07-01-2014, 04:49 PM
yes there is a chance to be seen... recorded ... etc... but its chance many girls do this and are fine afterwards... i constantly look up the top webcam models to see if ppl recorded them and i have a hard time finding them on lj the couple i found were like 30 seconds long on a porn website and one was doing nothing fully dressed in freechat the other was doing some anal stuff for 30-45 seconds.. and this model is the top webcam model even won the award at the adult video awards.. also i heard streamate can record you and use it for advertising... i might be wrong i don't work there but its what i heard...i look up myself all the time and still nothing.unless someone wants to do a web search on your "porn/webcam name" then they could find your old profile/ or recorded vids from costumers recording... but your real name shouldn't bring that up... unless it spontaneously happens to be someone you know already sees your actual face and recognizes you as the previous post mentioned happening to her

Procrasturbator
07-01-2014, 04:58 PM
I'm just going to pass up on college and work fast food because I don't want to graduate and be turned down because of my past. I was so young when I started camming I did not think of how my future could be affected. All I was thinking was I need this money.

That's kind of a major overreaction. There's a wide range of career options between teaching young kids and working in fast food for the rest of your life. Your best bet would be something that doesn't come with an expectation of being a model citizen, or any high standard of "moral" behavior outside of work. This is hard to put into words but the careers you've named (aside from fast food work) are unusually dependent on who you are (or how you're perceived), rather than what you do. That's not true for most jobs. For instance, one of my family members had a career in corporate accounting. They make good money and if you're good at your job then no one really gives a shit about what one of their accountants did years ago (barring embezzlement lol.) Not saying you need to be an accountant, that's just the first example that came to mind, but something specialized and out of the public eye wouldn't be a bad idea.

Also keep in mind that many people don't end up in the exact field that they studied. They get some experience, get promoted, switch companies a time or ten, and end up in some specialized job that they never considered when they started school. Not everyone is a nurse or a teacher or a fireman or whatever high profile career choices we're exposed to when we're young--most people zig-zag their way up to being, IDK, the regional director of a packing peanut manufacturer or some shit like that.

If the only other idea you have is fast food then go to school! Just be pragmatic about it.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-01-2014, 05:35 PM
I thought this was a troll from the start. I really did and I still do. I understand that people come on forums asking for advice from complete strangers all the time. But asking how to support their child? Nope sorry. Not buying it.

TheBrownFox
07-01-2014, 07:32 PM
A guy friend/former fuck buddy texted me a little while ago with a link and screenshot of a porn trailer or something he found of me. The thing is I don't think I've ever told him I'm in porn, so it's not like he would've been looking for my stuff. I'm pretty sure he just stumbled across it while he happened to be checking out adult sites. And considering the fact that he's a White guy who has a thing for Black girls (and what he found of me was in an interracial category)...it makes sense that he'd stumble across it. And a long time ago, I remember a different male friend telling me he could've sworn he'd seen a porn screenshot of me...

I'm rooting for you, though, dollbaby, that you'll be able to pursue a career that you love, and that your camming past hasn't ruined your chances.

Charlotteslut
07-01-2014, 08:13 PM
If you have been a cam model in the past, you have no choice but to live an off the grid lifestyle afterwards. Be prepared to start a goat farm and live in a tiny home. Other options include masked vigilante or purveyor of organic soaps on Etsy.

When is the old lady cam commune/pot farm going to happen so we have viable career options after this??

...

But srsly I think good points have been made on both sides here, regardless of if OP is sincere or doing some weird warning saviour thing.

JaneBurgess
07-01-2014, 08:24 PM
Most the people you are thinking about were XXX performers, not cam performers. There's a huge difference between the two. I guess it might come back to haunt you but plenty of adult performers have went on to have successful careers outside of the industry.

KatyBoleyn
07-01-2014, 09:30 PM
When is the old lady cam commune/pot farm going to happen so we have viable career options after this??

Coming soon, BoleynModels Camgirl Retirement Villages (tm)...I'm thinking 5 or 6 in the franchise, a nice one in the midwest, east and west coasts, Caribbean, Europe...just a regular gated community type deal, buy in, live there till you die...all the cool churches have them, why not us?

ava$
07-01-2014, 09:43 PM
Does anyone know the search engines they use to screen u when applying for jobs or diplomas or certificates or license?

SophieL
07-01-2014, 10:33 PM
I have cammed and done videos yet past a recent background check for a healthcare job. Now that is not to say that the next time it won't show up.

audritwo
07-01-2014, 11:02 PM
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Sign me up! Also gonna start working on the retired camgirl on retired camgirl site! Or set up a voyeur cam. Either way $$$$

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Melonie
07-02-2014, 02:13 AM
Does anyone know the search engines they use to screen u when applying for jobs or diplomas or certificates or license

Generally speaking, US state gov't professional licensing agencies will now utilize the FBI's 'in depth' background check capabilities where applicants for licenses in education, health care, law, engineering, finance etc. are involved. This is highly likely to turn up the existence of 1099 automatic payment reports issued by adult webcam hosts.

In terms of what sort of background search capabilities will be used 4 years from now ... thus affecting camgirls starting college this year ... nobody knows for sure. However, facial recognition technology like Google DeepFace is fairly likely. See . Thus it's entirely possible that, 4 years from now, a prospective future employer could snap a picture of each job applicant during the job interview, and before the interview is over, come back with questions like 'is this you rocking a Hitachi ?'.

As was posted earlier, due to the fact that webcam hosts are all required to issue 1099's, and that the probability of having 'adult' images / clips posted on webcam host affiliate sites, tube sites, upload sites, etc., camgirls inherently face a greater risk regarding future facial recognition searches turning up their 'adult' industry work history than dancers do. But that certainly doesn't mean that the risk that dancers will face is zero. Smart Glasses, stealth digital cameras disguised as watches or keychains, club website promo pics, etc. all involve the possibility of dancers facing 'adult' internet content posted by others that might result in a facial recognition match.

As to how much an 'adult' industry work history being discovered may affect future professional job prospects 4 years from now, nobody can really answer that question either. Technically speaking, being involved in the 'adult' industry PRIOR to graduating college and applying for a gov't issued professional license cannot prevent said license from being issued since 'adult' industry work isn't illegal. However, involvement in the 'adult' industry AFTER graduation / being issued a professional license is considered to be 'unprofessional conduct' ... which can result in the state professional license agency imposing stiff fines as well as informing current and future professional employers via a cover letter being added to the state license file which all professional employers must check.

Beyond that, decisions re future hiring of a person with a known 'adult' industry work background will also depend on unknown future factors - such as the number of other qualified job candidates available who do NOT have an 'adult' industry work history, the need to fill professional job positions involving working conditions / pay rates which most qualified job candidates choose to turn down, etc.



I have cammed and done videos yet past a recent background check for a healthcare job. Now that is not to say that the next time it won't show up.

Indeed this is an ongoing risk. I passed my initial professional license background checks no problem ... but during a new background check recently performed when it was time to renew my professional licenses, one state professional licensing agency did turn up my 'adult' industry work history. The point of course is that passing an initial professional license background check, and being successfully hired by a professional employer, is no guarantee that you'll be able to continue to work for that professional employer without future 'problems' cropping up as the result of future background checks being performed when those licenses come up for renewal.

Also, there are lots of other methods which could potentially result in a person with an 'adult' industry background being 'outed' to their employer ... from 'jealous' co-workers, to students outing their teacher, etc. The anecdotes posted in this thread prove that adult internet content of a particular person can already be 'discovered' by other persons today. Facial recognition search technology will only make such 'discoveries' faster and easier in the future.

absolutelyadorable
07-02-2014, 11:29 AM
that's exactly why I was a little wary of starting on streamates (still did it though) because of those damn popups..............

MarvelGirl
07-02-2014, 11:34 AM
Your only options are fast food or going to college? Really? There's a whole lot in between getting a degree and resigning yourself to a lifetime of flipping burgers.

I'm not buying this.

caramelcraze
07-02-2014, 03:39 PM
You can always go into advertising! My buddy recently got a job with a firm and they were actually impressed by her indie modeling past due to how successful she was with her social media advertising.

caramelcraze
07-02-2014, 03:45 PM
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Sign me up! Also gonna start working on the retired camgirl on retired camgirl site! Or set up a voyeur cam. Either way $$$$

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scarletl
07-02-2014, 03:58 PM
Yeah come to think of it, I'm not buying this either now.

But hey ho it's good for others to read who perhaps will think their career life is fucked for the future because of camming.....because it's not.

And I am pretty sure majority of us would agree that once being a cam girl and working for yourself and having all that independence and freedom it's unlikely you would ever want to go and work for someone else again.

SaraLaughs
07-02-2014, 05:00 PM
It is against the philosophies and tenets of the vast majority of social workers to discriminate against sex workers. We had whole sections on it when I was in school, and revisited throughout- how sexual discrimination of any type, be it against homosexuals, transgender people, sex workers etc, isn't acceptable in our field, and how you have to pass the check if your personal bias makes it so you cannot effectively interact with a client/participant regarding the tenets of social work philosophy.

Of course, bureaucracy works differently.

DonaDiabla
07-02-2014, 07:49 PM
This seems like a knee jerk response. You do understand that many sex workers became successful in different careers. Plus, I am trying to figure out why would anyone want to get into fast food after working as an cam model? You can make so much more money in sex work. Also you had originally stated that someone got fired from Subway because of their porn past. Yet you want to go into fast food? You do know that Subway is a fast food joint, right? Plus how can people on Stripper Web help you support your child?


I'm just going to pass up on college and work fast food because I don't want to graduate and be turned down because of my past. I was so young when I started camming I did not think of how my future could be affected. All I was thinking was I need this money.

DonaDiabla
07-02-2014, 07:52 PM
Plus she was talking about working in fast food after being a cam model. I knew she was a troll when she talked about working in fast food after camming. That is such a WTF response. PhatGirlDynomite, you are right ;)


I thought this was a troll from the start. I really did and I still do. I understand that people come on forums asking for advice from complete strangers all the time. But asking how to support their child? Nope sorry. Not buying it.

audritwo
07-02-2014, 08:45 PM
It honestly reminded me of what parents say "Go to college or go flip burgers."

TheBrownFox
07-02-2014, 09:06 PM
Why the fuck would the boss at Subway fire a woman for doing porn? LMAO. It's a job making sandwiches. What...they afraid you're gonna squirt into someone's Italian BMT sandwich?

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dontcrywolf
07-02-2014, 10:49 PM
Lesser known cam girls like the majority of us out there don't just 'pop up'. You'd have to do some pretty deep searching on some specific websites to find them. All trolls aside, if any male employer were to find me while sifting through a camming site and recognized me enough (I'm not a big name performer by any stretch of the definition) to deny me a job because of it, I wouldn't want to work for such a pig anyways. Answer this, do YOU really want to work for Mr. "Open tots bb"?

smaddy
07-02-2014, 11:58 PM
Usually a porn star past only becomes an issue when someone discovers and outs you. For example in the case of a student at the high school you teach at finding your risque photos online or a porn video. Employers can look up your SS # to find your past employers but they generally only do this for the past 3-5 years. It would not affect your ability to pass a background check as the work is legal. It would only become an issue if your employer looked through your SS# to find your past employers.

In which case there may be a way around it. Even if they do see that your employer was streamate you could say that your past work as a freelance web developer. If your income was high enough for the time you worked for them it could be believable as most of the general public thinks camgirls make next to nothing or do it for free.

Start searching the web and see if anything about your pops up. Do image searches with the photos you used for camming and see if you can find yourself that way. Send DMCA's or contact the cam site you worked for and see if they can have the content taken down.

In the case where you become an entrepreneur or lets say (because this example was provided) an independent social worker. Don't put your photos up online (such as on your website) it only increases the chance that someone may recognize you. Keep your facebook private and put a picture that's not your face as your profile photo.

With the business that I plan to start after camming there is a good chance I will be outed if it becomes popular. It actually could help my career a bit, but i'd rather not have friends/family seeing my old porn videos. When I retire i'll be on a mission to scour the web and get everything taken down. I might actually hire a team who specializes in this sort of thing but its going to cost good $$ and there's no guarantee.

domina
07-03-2014, 01:04 AM
at my old club, i worked with a dancer who was also a kindergarten teacher, age 40. She danced not because she needed the extra money, she said it was just because a) shes always wanted to be a dancer and b) she loves being a teacher. Supposedly.

She said she got in trouble one day because someone took a cell phone photo of her while she was on stage, full frontal totally naked (full-nude club), and then this person showed her boss at the school. They confronted her when she went in to work, asked her "is this you?" and obviously it was her, no denying it. Something happened, i dont remember exactly what, i think she got fired from that one school, but she just ended up getting a job as a teacher at another one? Anyways it was frustrating and embarrassing but the weird thing is that she was still a teacher (supposedly), and STILL DANCING. Happily.

IDGI. But maybe it's possible? I dunno, its a little hard to believe...

ava$
07-03-2014, 07:00 AM
Lesser known cam girls like the majority of us out there don't just 'pop up'. You'd have to do some pretty deep searching on some specific websites to find them. All trolls aside, if any male employer were to find me while sifting through a camming site and recognized me enough (I'm not a big name performer by any stretch of the definition) to deny me a job because of it, I wouldn't want to work for such a pig anyways. Answer this, do YOU really want to work for Mr. "Open tots bb"?
LMAO @ mr. "open tots bb"!! good point, who wants to work for this

ava$
07-03-2014, 07:08 AM
Lesser known cam girls like the majority of us out there don't just 'pop up'. You'd have to do some pretty deep searching on some specific websites to find them. All trolls aside, if any male employer were to find me while sifting through a camming site and recognized me enough (I'm not a big name performer by any stretch of the definition) to deny me a job because of it, I wouldn't want to work for such a pig anyways. Answer this, do YOU really want to work for Mr. "Open tots bb"?
LMAO @ mr. "open tots bb"!! good point, who wants to work for this. I dont want to close any doors myself but I have dancer license in atl and vegas and I had 1099's issued to me from one club (I planed to say I was a makeup artist if questioned on this) so I am thinking if I started caming, it shouldnt look any worse as a background and just like someone else said, you could say your a web developer for the site who paid you if questioned. I am feeling better about this not being such a big deal. I want to have my own business anyways but u never know what the future holds I guess so keeping an ok record is a good thing or at least plan for excuses u may have to make. NOw the only thing I am worried about with camming is the safety of it, Ive heard of custies finding cam girls and stalking them, scary..

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2014, 07:58 AM
LMAO @ mr. "open tots bb"!! good point, who wants to work for this. I dont want to close any doors myself but I have dancer license in atl and vegas and I had 1099's issued to me from one club (I planed to say I was a makeup artist if questioned on this) so I am thinking if I started caming, it shouldnt look any worse as a background and just like someone else said, you could say your a web developer for the site who paid you if questioned. I am feeling better about this not being such a big deal. I want to have my own business anyways but u never know what the future holds I guess so keeping an ok record is a good thing or at least plan for excuses u may have to make. NOw the only thing I am worried about with camming is the safety of it, Ive heard of custies finding cam girls and stalking them, scary..

If this doesn't concern you as a dancer in a "known" location then camming shouldn't either? Guess what? I live in the ATL too! Or so some guys think. One time I did a camshow from Fantasia. ;) They don't need to know where you are. I've been caught lying about my location so much that I no longer care. It's a running joke, "So where are you today BB?" Tell them anything you want just don't tell them the truth.

TheBrownFox
07-03-2014, 08:47 AM
And while we're on the topic of location...no one needs to know "What's the temperature right now where you are?" Um, it's hot, dude...that's all you need to know. And no one needs to know the exact spot where you'll be going for your birthday. I wait til after I'm back home from such and such place to speak about it.

Melonie
07-03-2014, 09:02 AM
how sexual discrimination of any type, be it against homosexuals, transgender people, sex workers etc, isn't acceptable in our field, and how you have to pass the check if your personal bias makes it so you cannot effectively interact with a client/participant regarding the tenets of social work philosophy.

Of course, bureaucracy works differently.

Agreed that having a documentable 'adult' industry work history shouldn't be an impediment to future 'straight' jobs and careers. Unfortunately, prospective employers tend to view the subject differently than the gov't does. Based on past discussions with guys who own businesses, they will 'pass' on hiring any new employee with an 'adult' industry work history because ...

A - statistically speaking, hiring a former 'stripper' or camgirl leads to a higher incidence of sexual harassment and/or hostile workplace lawsuits being brought against the employer. Ironically, it is typically female co-workers who bring such lawsuits not the dancer or camgirl employees themselves.

B - statistically speaking, hiring a former 'stripper' or camgirl leads to lower workplace productivity. Again, this isn't the direct result of the dancer or camgirl not being productive, but from horny male co-workers paying too much attention to the hot new female co-worker instead of their own jobs.

C - hiring a former 'stripper' or camgirl increases the likelihood that the employer may come under public criticism if and when that former 'stripper' or camgirl is outed. This in turn can lead to adverse publicity in local news media, damage to business reputation, alienation of customers, etc. which indirectly cost the employers money.

D- This can also lead to potential legal expenses for the employer if the former 'stripper' or camgirl protests being fired, potential additional employee recruiting / screening costs to hire someone to replace the fired 'stripper' or camgirl, etc. Higher unemployment insurance premium costs will also result for the employer even if the firing isn't protested.

Also, my business acquaintances have pointed out that, given today's very high levels of unemployment, people with an 'adult' industry work history now face potential problems getting hired for 'burger flipping' and 'shelf stocking' right along with getting hired as a RN, teacher, bank teller, etc. The reason is that, since the employers have dozens of qualified applicants to pick from for every open job position, there's no reason for employers to 'take a chance' on hiring someone with anything questionable on their resume or in their background. This situation has led to employers now doing credit checks, social media checks, background checks etc. as a matter of 'policy' ... and typically rejecting any applicant with any sort of questionable stats. Of course, those employers never tell the rejected job applicants the reason that they were rejected.

Holly_xoxo
07-03-2014, 09:50 AM
Why the fuck would the boss at Subway fire a woman for doing porn? LMAO. It's a job making sandwiches. What...they afraid you're gonna squirt into someone's Italian BMT sandwich?

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That would be kind of awesome if they did. I'd go to that Subway Lol

ava$
07-03-2014, 09:51 AM
If this doesn't concern you as a dancer in a "known" location then camming shouldn't either? Guess what? I live in the ATL too! Or so some guys think. One time I did a camshow from Fantasia. ;) They don't need to know where you are. I've been caught lying about my location so much that I no longer care. It's a running joke, "So where are you today BB?" Tell them anything you want just don't tell them the truth.
actually people can see your location from your lp address and I have heard of cam girls being stalked. Heres an article on it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1380051/Now-websites-track-location-metres.html. I mean at least with a strip club I cam remember faces and look in mirror whole time driving home to see whose fallowing me, online I have no idea who has been watching me... Kinda a scary thought but there must be a way around this I just havnt found it yet.

Melonie
07-03-2014, 10:07 AM
Kinda a scary thought but there must be a way around this I just havnt found it yet.

Not wanting to drift off topic, but the same facial recognition search technology that is already being used by gov't agencies and big businesses, and is starting to become available to individuals, makes for a potential nightmare in this regard. Imagine an 'overzealous' customer using a posted camgirl image, a dancer image posted on a club website, a stealth pic snapped with a watch-cam, pen-cam, or keychain-cam etc. as the basis for a facial recognition based internet search. What might turn up ... a facebook page in the girl's own name, online high school / college yearbook pics, old online local news articles showing the girl being accepted at X college, getting married, winning X award, etc. And to make matters even worse, now some state DMV's are 'selling' access to their driver's license photo databases for facial recognition searches.

I'll also mention that many of my business acquaintances can't wait until facial recognition searches are added by their background check / employment verification service providers, in addition to the criminal record checks, citizenship / green card checks, credit checks, social media checks, etc. that these services already provide. Those business acquaintances are generally of the opinion that spending a couple of hundred dollars for a thorough pre-hiring background check is far less expensive than the potential costs to the business if that new employee must be fired and replaced.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-03-2014, 12:28 PM
Of course you're concerned you'd have to be absolutely stupid not to be. Dancers are targets. For everyone of your camgirl stalker stories I can give you 5 more stories for girls who work in clubs. Or at a restaurant. A real estate office. Escorting. Phone Sex Operator. Bus Driver. Anywhere that a routine has been established it's possible. Many crimes against women come down to opportunity and isn't exactly pre-meditated. The internet can be a scary place, but you are more likely to be assaulted by someone who saw you walking you dog and followed you home. I know that's morbid thinking but you just have to be smart when you're online or anywhere. The girls I know who are being harassed fucked up somewhere along the way. They got too comfy with their customers and gave out personal details not realizing psycho boy lurker was paying attention . Or they didn't cover their ass because they never thought it would happen to them. Wishlist,Domains with real addresses listed,tweeted pics from clubs in South Beach, listening to local radio stations while live on the internet. Not masking their IP addresses etc etc Ugh it's so much I know. But with all of that said camming is much safer than other physical adultwork jobs.


actually people can see your location from your lp address and I have heard of cam girls being stalked. Heres an article on it http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1380051/Now-websites-track-location-metres.html. I mean at least with a strip club I cam remember faces and look in mirror whole time driving home to see whose fallowing me, online I have no idea who has been watching me... Kinda a scary thought but there must be a way around this I just havnt found it yet.

ava$
07-04-2014, 10:05 AM
^^This is true but I pay much attention to my surroundings so I feel at least ok about that but a cam customer could be anyone, they know me but i dont know them, creeps me out.lbs. But how do u mask ur lp address? If I could do that then yes, camming would be way safer than any other form of adult work

kortneykay
07-04-2014, 02:59 PM
I hope not, OP. It is a very sad thing to be born a female. It doesn't make sense that a teacher can go into a strip club or hire an escort, but an escort and a stripper can't be a teacher. We need to start proving that we as women do not deserve the double standards we've been handed since forever. Good girls never make history. I say fuck it, be who you want to be, it is your right.

kortneykay
07-04-2014, 03:09 PM
I'll post what I said to a cambuddy today: It's amazing how people glorify illegal activities like rappers who came up as street hustlers or some 100 yr old company who's founder shined shoes, but let a woman say "I stripped/cammed/escorted for money as my start." and the whole world shoots her down, a hustle is a hustle no matter what.
What's important is that all the individuals who came from nothing or saved up their money had a vision and made it happen. If money does that, what's the issue?

GlamourRouge
07-05-2014, 01:36 PM
Honestly... you're probably okay to find "other work", but you just have to be careful. I love how what I wrote was taken out of context. You can still "work" outside sexwork, but personally I would never do a job where I didn't end up owning my own business. I just wouldn't want to rely on an employer who could and would (especially women, someone religious, etc) fire me if/when my stuff was discovered, and then I'd... have to go to back to sexwork to pay my bills for awhile til I found a new job, with the risk of the same thing happening again. The reason they fire people who have a sexwork past is because they don't want a "dirty" or "immoral" image associated with their business. And that's a smart move, I can't hate.

So self-employment. The thing is, with careers where you have the option to be self-employed (psychologist, nurse practitioner, physical therapist, occupational therapist, lawyer, etc etc), you can't be fired (if self-employed), but you risk losing your license for "unprofessional conduct" which a sexwork past would violate... I'm not exactly how it would work post-adult-industry-retirement, but I know someone could make the case and you could get your license suspended over it. In that case, you would have to somehow *prove* you were already retired from adult entertainment. Perhaps a final tweet saying you have retired, or a post on a message board or something I don't know?

I don't exactly know how licenses and past sexwork would play out. I do know that google is full of nurses that have been fired for a lingerie modeling PAST (even just Playboy). But I'd still much rather take the risk of being self-employed and losing my license than have my sole income be in the hands of another human being who, at any time, could be anonymously emailed my adult work. a.) I wouldn't want that day-to-day "what if" & "when" stress, and b.) I wouldn't want to invest money in a degree where I know that is a real possibility. You definitely can't be fired from self-employment. But you can lose your license for "unprofessional conduct"... However, a great lawyer could make the case against that if you have previous documentation stating you've retired. And that is a much safer and less stressful route.

Charlotteslut
07-06-2014, 12:01 AM
^IA with a lot of that actually and it's why I'm growing more and more disenchanted with vanilla work. I used to think it was more "secure" but idk, I don't think it is really both for the reasons you stated and also because employers pull shitty moves on employees all the time even if you aren't a current/past sex worker. Job security is not as it was for my mother's generation, and I think for a lot of cam models we are drawn to this for the independence and being our own bosses. But you can extend that beyond camming/outside of adult too. One thing I am looking into now is rental properties.

dollbaby23
07-06-2014, 08:41 PM
I was on sw for about 3 years now. I deleted my email linked to my streamate account therefore I couldn't log into sw. I forgot my password to sw. So I made a new account.

I was just upset girls. My goal for years was to become a social worker and that's it. So I was kind of devastated knowing that I would most likely never be. I searched my for other possible courses but the only one I want to enter is that one. Also it was the only one I knew I could be really really good at.