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The Jackal
12-23-2011, 09:15 PM
It seems as if we are striking way too many nerves around here. Shall we strike the chord instead, for a change?
Kessler
12-24-2011, 02:51 AM
GFYS.
If I pissed you off, I must be doing something right.
Right back at you, sweetheart :)
roast
12-27-2011, 04:57 PM
this thread transformed into one hell of a golden shower bukkake. piss here, piss there, who wins, idk idk.
yoda seems to get bashed by a few blues a fair amount. guy who openly admits to seeing sex workers regularly? with enough disposable income to pay said sex workers? he also isnt a misogynist to boot?? he also wont post about his encounters in excruiciati ng detail???? the outrage! the OUTRAGE! he has abandoned the pack!
It also seems he has dancers and escorts who are his actual friends (like both parties would agree), which is either the lie many tell themselves or is the holygrail of many.
oh envy cloaked at self-righteousness.
Doc, your pay attention to meee bait was a bit too heavy-handed. Aim for subtlety next time.
Kellydancer
12-27-2011, 05:07 PM
Do you mean Yoda? I don't think he's a misogynist unless you mean someone else. Yoda has posted about him having sex with escorts but he's been honest. I don't approve of any of the married guys seeing escorts and would divorce on that but I'm not married to any of them so it makes no difference in my life.
unbeleavable
12-27-2011, 05:09 PM
Golden shower....great line.
yoda57us
12-27-2011, 05:14 PM
he also wont post about his encounters in excruiciati ng detail???? the outrage! the OUTRAGE! he has abandoned the pack!
LOL, When I used to actually write reviews on TER they would always get rejected on the first try for "lack of detail". Based on what I've been told over the years by dancers and escorts the pack is definitely not where I want to be...
Thank you roast for that extremely witty post. It was the highpoint of my day!
yoda57us
12-27-2011, 05:18 PM
Do you mean Yoda? I don't think he's a misogynist unless you mean someone else. Yoda has posted about him having sex with escorts but he's been honest. I don't approve of any of the married guys seeing escorts and would divorce on that but I'm not married to any of them so it makes no difference in my life.
She didn't mean me Kelly but thanks for defending me...
Honestly, I'm quite certain that my ex would have divorced me if she knew I was seeing escorts so I see your point. We all do what we need to do to get by. I stand by the decisions I made back then though I would never expect them to be hugely popular among women.
roast
12-27-2011, 05:26 PM
however people define infidelity Id say people's struggles with monogamy probably accounts for like 3/4s of my income. Ive cheated and been cheated on. Id probably be fine with my partner seeing escorts instead of having a longterm emotionally draining affair but I think I was a bonobo or a creepy swinger in a past life. basically I cant in good conscience poo-poo your scenario. That scenario is the scenario of many, probably of millions, probably the driving force behind the vast majority of most arms of the sex industry. Most just dont talk about it. It is a very understandably uncomfortable subject. The waters behind people's motives as patron and provider will always be muddy.
....speaking of most just dont talk about it: youre also the only one directly honest about it or refers to it - arent most blues here married? especially the p4p ones? /rhetorical. lol I mean, cmon. attacked for your sexual honesty, how downright Puritan. way to keep it 100% American. fuck yea
I had no idea TER rejected lack of detail reviews, wow. Well when the owner of the site is still in jail for being a violent dickwad, guess it makes sense.
unbeleavable
12-27-2011, 05:35 PM
There is something said for which you can hold.
yoda57us
12-27-2011, 05:49 PM
Interestingly my ATF escort left her ex husband for cheating on her (she never escorted when she was living with him). She has pretty much said that she would have been OK with him paying for sex with an escort. It was the emotional component of him having an affair that she couldn't handle. I'm not using this scenario as an excuse for my behavior when I was married. My ex definitely does not share the open-minded views of my ATF (who also happens to be a very good friend). She most likely would have tossed my ass even if all she found were the phone numbers of the strippers I was friendly with (not sleeping with) back then.
As you say roast, married guys provide a substantial percentage of any sex worker's income. There are lots of different reasons married guys go looking for outside sex (in whatever form they settle on) and the ridiculously high cost of divorce should not be discounted as being one of them. Happily ever after is rare and sometimes paying a few bucks just to be happy for a little while is the best substitute available. In any event, it fuels the sex industry...
As far as the blue bashers, well, it's always been like that. They get pissed off at guys who don't subscribe to the "bros before ho's" prime directive. The same sort of thing happens on all the strip club boards and on TER as well. There's one idiot running around on Strip Club List.com who, a couple of years ago, was cutting and pasting my posts from here on to the SCL boards so he could try to ridicule me. Of course that means he's member here as well but he doesn't have the balls to attack me here because he can't do it anonymously.
Me? I like pretty girls. I especially like the ones who will make me feel good-in one way or another-for a few bucks. What benefit is there in pissing them off or bashing them? I'm single now and I civvie date on occasion (mostly dancers since I don't go to regular bars) but, honestly, I like spending time with the P4P girls that I have become friendly with over the years...and it's cheaper than civvie dating in a lot of ways...
Naida
12-27-2011, 05:54 PM
As a Winston Churchill quote goes-
"Madam, would you consider having sex with me for a million dollars?"
"Why certainly I'd consider it!"
"Would you then consider having sex with me for a dollar?"
"Most certainly not! What do you think I am?"
"We have already established what you are. Now we're negotiating price."
A prostitute is a prostitute, no matter the price (and there's nothing wrong with escorts, as long as they are safe and remember their worth. Fuck some $2 streetwalkers though) Some women are hookers who will do it for any price. Some women are classy, charge what they're worth and deserve respect. Some women don't have a price, no matter how high it is. And, believe it or not, some strippers really don't have a price.
loveshooks
12-27-2011, 06:10 PM
Thank you roast for that extremely witty post. It was the highpoint of my day!
I'm such a roast fan-chica....I'm not ashamed to say I get excited at times when I log into sw and see that she's written something new :) :)
lopaw
12-27-2011, 07:04 PM
What is it with these cheesedicks posting in here lately? Are they getting bored with the circle-jerks on TUSCL? Tired of the endless witty banter on SCL? Or do they think that CC is a place where their idiocy will go unchallenged, since it's on the pink side and there are actually women in here?
I must admit it is fun watching the schooling occur before the banned hammer is eventually dropped.
yoda57us
12-27-2011, 07:10 PM
What is it with these cheesedicks posting in here lately?
LMAOWROTF! :rotfl:
"cheesedicks"! Lopaw, that was priceless!
Kellydancer
12-27-2011, 09:09 PM
She didn't mean me Kelly but thanks for defending me...
Honestly, I'm quite certain that my ex would have divorced me if she knew I was seeing escorts so I see your point. We all do what we need to do to get by. I stand by the decisions I made back then though I would never expect them to be hugely popular among women.
I didn't think she meant you but sometimes when people post (I'm guilty of this as well)it's sometimes hard to know who people mean, this is true when one posts at the same time as another.
I don't like when married men cheat but at least in your case you aren't one of those religious jerks who preach one thing but do another. I have no issue at all with escorts as long as they keep it out of the club. I've met quite a few (oddly most were former dancers)and they were classy ladies. They were not the woman having sex with a man the first time they met him just for the fun of it.
Btw, I too think Roast is cool.
lopaw
12-27-2011, 11:21 PM
LMAOWROTF! :rotfl:
"cheesedicks"! Lopaw, that was priceless!
I'm feeling especially descriptive today ;D
The Jackal
12-27-2011, 11:26 PM
Character flaw is a character flaw. Only a person with no spine will mistreat his wife and yet put strippers and call girls on pedestal. To each his own though.
Aurora_Sunset
12-27-2011, 11:40 PM
What is with this "logic" of everyone here lately that if you disrespect one woman, you may as well disrespect all other women in the process? A wife is a wife, a stripper is a stripper, and an escort is an escort. The behavior toward one does not dictate the behavior toward any other. No one is saying that disrespect toward any of them is ok, but wtf is up with saying that if you disrespect one, you shouldn't be nice to the others? So people with one character flaw should just be all around dicks to everyone to make it fair? Better to be a consistent douchebag to the entire world than a hypocrite? You realize you are basically bashing people for being nice to a certain group of people just because they weren't to another group. I suppose if the cheating men on here were self-righteous assholes to the strippers and escorts they cheated with, it would make it all better to you.... ::) ffs, give it a rest. We're not on a relationship board, we're on a STRIPPER board, and the only thing that matters here is how customers treat STRIPPERS, not the other women in their life. Personally, I'd rather sit with the hypocrite who's gonna be nice to me over the douchebag who just treats all women like crap... but hey, that's just me.
yoda57us
12-28-2011, 04:17 AM
^ if I could hit the "thanks" button a hundred times for this post it still wouldn't be enough!
yoda57us
12-28-2011, 04:21 AM
Character flaw is a character flaw. Only a person with no spine will mistreat his wife and yet put strippers and call girls on pedestal. To each his own though.
1. No one is without a character flaw or two...
2. It's fascinating that all of the "men" judging here are doing it only hearing one side of the story. I suppose it's never occurred to any of you that wives are also capable of bad behavior...
3. Jackal, being a judgmental fuckhead with a superiority complex is a character flaw too...
Naida
12-28-2011, 04:47 AM
^^^ +1 ^^^
KS_Stevia
12-28-2011, 05:21 AM
I don't like when married men cheat but at least in your case you aren't one of those religious jerks who preach one thing but do another. I have no issue at all with escorts as long as they keep it out of the club. I've met quite a few (oddly most were former dancers)and they were classy ladies. They were not the woman having sex with a man the first time they met him just for the fun of it.
How do you know? And that comment feels like judgement for those who have casual sex.
How about we all just not judge?
Kellydancer
12-28-2011, 10:35 AM
How do you know? And that comment feels like judgement for those who have casual sex.
How about we all just not judge?
Because they were the type of women you'd never know were escorts. They didn't advertise the fact they were escorts nor did they act like stereotypical prostitutes. Yes I do have more respect for them than I do the woman who go around sleeping with every man they meet. Same thing with men.
camille27
12-28-2011, 11:24 AM
i <3 roast. i wish she was a stripper so we could misbehave at work together. alas.
roast
12-28-2011, 11:41 AM
^Im actually trying out in about a month to see if my personality can handle it every so often. If it can we can talk plastic surgery. You know, not even kidding: I need a friend to talk plastic surgery with, so maybe. Ill try to pretend to be a professional so i can travel haha
Doc Holliday
12-28-2011, 11:48 AM
I'm all for women dancing in their golden years. Ward off the osteoporosis.
yoda57us
12-28-2011, 11:51 AM
^Im actually trying out in about a month to see if my personality can handle it every so often. If it can we can talk plastic surgery. You know, not even kidding: I need a friend to talk plastic surgery with, so maybe. Ill try to pretend to be a professional so i can travel haha
Please come to Boston...
roast
12-28-2011, 11:55 AM
I'm all for women dancing in their golden years. Ward off the osteoporosis.
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ludakfJd3C1qmtgrko1_500.png
lol you are so annoying why did I even answer ugh. I feel dirty.
Kellydancer
12-28-2011, 11:56 AM
Tempest Storm is in her 80's and still going strong. I would love to chat with her because I bet she has some great stories.
yoda57us
12-28-2011, 12:04 PM
yea, if I werent in my 20s thatd totally apply dude. totes.
lol you are so annoying why did I even answer ugh. I feel dirty.
That's too funny! I wrote a response to Doc's post but then deleted it. I felt like I was picking on him but yeah, annoying, pointless, off topic...they all apply...
Doc Holliday
12-28-2011, 12:25 PM
lol you are so annoying why did I even answer ugh. I feel dirty.Now, you're getting it! Try again. This time with meaning!
http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/6965/etdi.jpg
yoda57us
12-28-2011, 12:30 PM
Still happy sitting at the little kids table eh?
Doc Holliday
12-28-2011, 12:40 PM
Duh! Seriously, where do you think I was Thanksgiving? At the main table or back in the veranda with the kids making fart jokes?
The Jackal
12-28-2011, 04:13 PM
yea, if I werent in my 20s thatd totally apply dude. totes.
lol you are so annoying why did I even answer ugh. I feel dirty.
It is impossible to resist Doc Holiday. :)
safado
12-28-2011, 04:35 PM
Because they were the type of women you'd never know were escorts. They didn't advertise the fact they were escorts nor did they act like stereotypical prostitutes. Yes I do have more respect for them than I do the woman who go around sleeping with every man they meet. Same thing with men.
I am a little confused, could you explain how stereotypical prostitutes act?
Kellydancer
12-28-2011, 04:39 PM
Dressing slutty and looking like trash. Streetwalker. I'm sure everyone knows that.
KS_Stevia
12-28-2011, 06:37 PM
Because they were the type of women you'd never know were escorts. They didn't advertise the fact they were escorts nor did they act like stereotypical prostitutes. Yes I do have more respect for them than I do the woman who go around sleeping with every man they meet. Same thing with men.
Ok, that's a pretty fast jump from one extreme to another to another.
Technically, prostitutes DO have sex with every man they meet...at least for business...so none of this is making sense.
Well, we all judge, I do it too, so I can't be a hypocrite about other's beliefs when I have my own intolerences.....
Kellydancer
12-28-2011, 08:17 PM
Yes they have sex but for business which to me is much different then for free. They and the customer knows what the business is about. The girls who jump into bed with every man they meet are doing themselves a disservice because there is no business transaction. This is why I respect prostitutes far more than normal girls who do the same thing. Personally I'd rather be a high class escort than someone who sleeps areound.
I'm not sure why I have to explain this again because it's self explanatory. Prostitutes are having sex strictly for the money the random girl is not.
KS_Stevia
12-28-2011, 08:19 PM
But its not self-explanatory. If a woman enjoys sex and sexual partners, how does that make her a worse person than a prostitute and therefore at the mercy of your judgement?
Kellydancer
12-28-2011, 09:00 PM
I don't care what a woman like that does as long as I'm not paying. You're missing my point, in that if one is going to have a lot of sex to me it makes more sense to be an escort than just someone with a sex addiction. It doesn't make her a bad person I just don't get why she would do this. I'm not going to go into why I feel this way because it's more involved but when a girl sleeps with a bunch of guys and gets nothing out of it her self esteem is hurt. I am not talking about people who sleep with a bunch of people for fun, but the women who feel guilty and keep doing it because they feel they owe it to the guy.
Kessler
12-28-2011, 09:26 PM
Character flaw is a character flaw. Only a person with no spine will mistreat his wife and yet put strippers and call girls on pedestal. To each his own though.
Maybe they genuinely treat him better than his wife? My guess is they didn't cheat on him, become emotionally abusive or distant, turn their marriage into a sexless lie, criticize every decision, look down on him, kill his self-esteem, spend all his money WITHOUT his knowledge, force him to move from everything and everyone he loves, change minds about children, lied about their past, become mentally unstable, become an alcoholic or crackhead, purposefully alienate him from his family or kids, force the kids to pick sides or just be a generally selfish spouse. Maybe he was staying with a witch of a woman so he could provide a stable home for his kids? And getting a little attention or semblance of affection is the salve that kept him sane? My point: who the fuck knows???
I've seen it all, Jackal - so much grief caused by both sides. Some were salvageable, some refused to be salvaged, and others couldn't continue in a healthy way. But one thing I've learned - until you know what exactly transpired and the motivation behind a person's actions, husband or wife, you shouldn't cast stones. The glass house around you will cut you to pieces.
Naida
12-29-2011, 03:15 AM
A woman who sleeps around doesn't hurt her self-esteem. It's typically the other way around- she has lots of sex because she has low self-esteem and is trying to fill that void with a false sense of validation. If the guy can stick something in a hole, the hole thereby matters because it was useful to him, if that makes sense.
As a teen, I slept around because I had been abused by men who only showed me affection via sex. I was taught that I was otherwise useless and two generations of feminazis (again, to clarify, I am a feminist. I use the term feminazi to describe man hating bitches who claim to be feminists) told me that men only sweet talk you so you will have sex with them. I was 17 before I realised these ideas were wrong. Since then, I kept having casual sex because I enjoy sex and because partners and I are upfront about what we expect of the encounter.
yoda57us
12-29-2011, 06:02 AM
Women "sleep around" for lots of different reasons. Since I'm not a woman I won't judge them for it. Since non of us are mind readers I don't think it's a good idea to judge the behavior of others in general. We all have a tough enough job taking care of ourselves...