View Full Version : How to spot a time waster
Annastasi
02-28-2012, 05:28 PM
There's a new one in lately: The guys who say they want a dance, but only after they "win us some money at the video poker machines". Double asshole points if they try to get you to sit with them while they do it to be their good luck charm.
_natasha
02-28-2012, 05:35 PM
"What, it's an extra 10% to pay with my card? 10%?!" I know they're going to be a pain in the arse as soon as I hear that.
Money_Worshipper
02-28-2012, 07:42 PM
if i can guess their nationality. me having only three chances. i played this game and i always lost. waste of time. either they want you or not. live and learn
luscious sadie
02-29-2012, 01:53 AM
I don't get why some of you girls seem to be so willing to let the guy choose when you start. I mean, I will wait for the next song to begin but if the guy is like "oh next one" then I'll tell him he's paying for both.
GlamourRouge
02-29-2012, 11:38 AM
Now I just start dancing the second we enter the lapdance room, mid song...and try to time out 3 minutes in my head. That way they get 2 songs for the price of one!
Doesn't your club count that as 2 dances though? At all the clubs I've ever worked at, they would count it as 2 and it would piss me off.
kaiarose
02-29-2012, 11:54 AM
Did we say guys who say: yes, but let me finish the beer? I turn right around on this one..
I will come back after I notice he's done with his beer. I will grab him by the arm and be like, "Ready?!" I'd say 95% of the time they will go.
Dddallas
02-29-2012, 03:24 PM
Omg yes!!! Wearing a suit at 2:30 am screams douchebag time waster, NOT big spender!!! Fuck suits!!!!!
Maybe in dives but at my club many guys come after work and stay till 2.
Jay12
02-29-2012, 06:32 PM
I will come back after I notice he's done with his beer. I will grab him by the arm and be like, "Ready?!" I'd say 95% of the time they will go.
Yes, it does especially in a bar that doesn't have liquor.
luscious sadie
03-01-2012, 09:20 AM
I have done that before but guys get annoyed and angry because they don't think that we are being honest and end up feeling ripped off. I have found that when I do that, it's confusing for me but also makes it hard for the guys to keep wanting to spend. There are some clubs that are completely one or two dance clubs and I could see it working in those clubs but at mine I like to try for long strings of dances.
I actually had a guy get to the back with me on Tuesday and we walked into the booth RIGHT as the song was starting. I will always start if the song is like, 10 seconds in or less without asking, suggest that we start then if it's after about 10-15 "let's start now since the song JUST started", and will ask if they want to wait for the next if it's after that. It sucks waiting the song out sometimes but honestly, I feel that it's better. This guy saw my tattoo and was like "oh, let me show you mine!" He then showed me his for a few more seconds and then got pissed when I put down my towel and started dancing. "you're counting this one?!" "yeah, we got back here before this one started... you started taking off your shirt and the song isn't even halfway through yet anyway!"
loser.
after that dance he called me over to "help him pick the next girl" and didn't understand why I told him to fuck off. He stuck around all night and went with most of the girls.... for one song.
Jay12
03-01-2012, 05:20 PM
^Oh, I've seen lots of these!
AriahsPariah
03-07-2012, 09:48 PM
"What does your man think about what you do?""Your man let's you do this for a living?""If were your man I would get you out of here and take care of you."
Jay12
03-08-2012, 11:16 AM
"What does your man think about what you do?""Your man let's you do this for a living?""If were your man I would get you out of here and take care of you."
I love when they use either of those. I knew this retired army guy who insisted that he'll take care of me, and to see how honest he was about it, I asked him:
"So, since you'll say you will take care of me, would you pay for: my car, the insurance for the car, my credit card, pieces for my computers, my internet, my computer tools, a new server, more video games, my netflix account, my groceries, etc." He look at me with a blank stare. It was obvious that he wasn't serious. I had one who had the audacity to say that he all he meant was paying for my manicures (which I rarely do, I just cut my nails very short), and for expensive brand clothes (which I do not use). That guy was a true time waster; I try to avoid when possible.
How to answer the first question?
"Oh, my man is a disabled vet and the only income he has is the VA pension and SSI and that's why I'm dancing. You want me to tell you how he became a disabled vet? Well, it all started..." I love using this line (it is mostly true, actually, despite that sounds very unbelievable because most people would assume a disabled vet is one of those Vietnam vets who are crazy, and not a 25 y/o good looking ex navy guy), it really piss them off and they either; accept the dance offer or they just leave and never come back (is very 50-50).
JessicaCM
03-10-2012, 11:55 AM
Great post guys. Here are mines:
1. When you greet them, they barely speak and don't look excited. Chances are they are not interested in you. Even the shy/depressed guys who came for a good time will show you a positive sign of interest when you approach them.
2. People who sit at the bar/table all night and don't tip any girls. They're just there for a free show and/or to get drunk.
3. Guys who say "I just got here", "maybe later", or something along those lines when you ask them about lapdances, privates, or VIPs. Very rarely do these guys actually buy dances (at least from the girl he told that to).
4. Guys who say "I didn't bring much money" or "I just came for a beer".
Those are some of the main ones I've observed as my time as a dancer. Some girls sit with a customer for about a half hour, I for about 10 mins before asking about dances. I don't have time to waste, and would be pissed if I sat there for that long and not get a tip or dance. Fortunately, I've been doing this long enough to read people.
JessicaCM
03-10-2012, 01:36 PM
Agreed with all of the above. I have found that generally speaking the biggest spenders are NEVER the guys who are dressed the best. The guys in suits generally are timewasters unless it's during lunch times or early evening. The biggest one though is the guys who will try right away to learn a lot about you and want to know your "real" name then mention they are there to find a girlfriend. While a few will spend money thinking they can get a girlfriend, for the most part they don't.
Some things I've noticed about time wasters:
- "Thug" types, of any race. If they look like they are straight out of the hood then they are usually time wasters. They have that "cum drink wit me lil mama and ill make you mah gurl" attitude.
- Extremely drunk customers, or ones clearly high on drugs
- Rowdy groups of guys, the ones hooting and hollering are usually rude and their antics make it difficult to divide and conquer in the way of sales.
- A group of guys eating expensive food with drinks in a private booth. They never seem to be an easy sale and always want to have you hang out for an hour for drinks. Sometimes they will tip you, but you should always negotiate a price for your time at their table upfront.
- Bachelor parties. Honestly, most of the time there is no 'leader' of the pack and they all say "oh yeah lets get him a dance, we'll all talk about it". They act as if $5 toward the bachelor's dance from each person should be discussed in great detail.
- Women who are 40+ and with their husband. I can't quite figure out why they even bother to come in. They never get dances and the women usually look appalled when you go on stage because you get naked.
- Guys with $50+ in singles on their table who are hanging out $1-2 per dancer when there are 4-5 guys at the table. They usually take 2 hours to get rid of the money and don't get dances, they are "just there to watch and catch up".
- Groups of guys with someone from out of town who is just visiting. They always seem to want to catch up with each other and never want to get dances. They always make excuses.
- Guys smoking cigars. They sit there ALL NIGHT puffing on a cigar on and off and bullshit like they are Al Pacino.
- Guys who want to know your whole life story.
**Red flag questions, I usually excuse myself if they ask two or more of these at the table**
- Do you go to school?
- What do you do for a living? Or Do you do anything else?
- What city do you live in?
- What kind of car do you drive?
- What clubs have you stripped at?
- Why did you get into stripping?
- How much do you make?
- Is it usually this busy/slow?
- What do you do during dances?
- Do you offer extras?
- What time do you get off work?
- Do you do private parties?
- Did your piercings hurt?
Blah blah blah. They are all time wasters until proven otherwise by spending money on me.
The guys that try and make a game out of you asking for a dance... "C'mon sell it to me, tell me why I should get one with you" they just want you to beg to make them feel like a big dick, and never get a dance...or even tip you. I just walk away.
"What does your man think about what you do?""Your man let's you do this for a living?""If were your man I would get you out of here and take care of you."
I love these. Some people think we are stuck up when we don't talk to these losers, but we are here to MAKE MONEY. It is offensive when guys don't spend $. I take my job seriously.
Jay12
03-11-2012, 01:07 AM
2. People who sit at the bar/table all night and don't tip any girls. They're just there for a free show and/or to get drunk.
I knew some clubs that, if a customer will be doing for a whole rotation of girls, those customer will be asked to leave.
JessicaCM
03-11-2012, 04:53 PM
i knew some clubs that, if a customer will be doing for a whole rotation of girls, those customer will be asked to leave.
good as they should be!!!
missykrissy
03-13-2012, 11:34 PM
3. Guys who say "I just got here", "maybe later", or something along those lines when you ask them about lapdances, privates, or VIPs. Very rarely do these guys actually buy dances (at least from the girl he told that to).
What is up with the "I just got here"?????
i always want to laugh in there face, like, um, oooookay. i didn't ask when you got here.
Holly_V
03-14-2012, 01:51 PM
I pretty new to dancing. Do you girls consider a guy who buys only one dance to be a time waster?
Allice
03-14-2012, 02:23 PM
I pretty new to dancing. Do you girls consider a guy who buys only one dance to be a time waster?
It really depends on the club and kind of night it is, and the kind of dancer you are. And how much your dances pay... So no, not necessarily. I've had nights where I've had a queue of guys and I'm just flitting from one to the next (although it's unusual if I can't get extra dances out of at least a few).
It all adds up.
Frenchie
04-24-2012, 04:22 PM
I love these. Some people think we are stuck up when we don't talk to these losers, but we are here to MAKE MONEY. It is offensive when guys don't spend $. I take my job seriously.
Part of the job is making it seem like it's not a job to us.
missykrissy
04-25-2012, 12:44 AM
I pretty new to dancing. Do you girls consider a guy who buys only one dance to be a time waster?
No... of course I like to sell more than one, and oftentimes I do, but I do a lot of dances and some nights I dance all night and some of them are just one. Some of our customers make $500-$700 a week! They don't really have an entertainment budget. I don't mind doing one dance as long as...either I ask or he asks, I dance for him, he pays me, thanks so much, catch you next time. I can't sit and talk with someone to sell each single dance.
Nina_
04-25-2012, 12:18 PM
If guys are disrespectful (touching me inappropriately, etc) I will not waste my time. If a guy asks me if I do extras I immediately go find someone else to make money of off. If a guy doesn't seem to be very interested in me or isn't paying attention I'll soon be leaving him. If he already hints that he's just there to "relax, have a beer, and watch the game" then I may sit with them for a couple minutes to see if they get interested me; it's happened plenty of times that I can talk a guy into a dance when he wasn't planning on getting any dances. But typically, if he doesn't show interested after a couple minutes, I'm gone.
I don't mind at all when guys ask me if I go to school or where I live. I'm a pre-law student and I live in my own apartment in Detroit so those are conversation starters. A lot of guys who ask me questions like that end up spending money.
Guy who ask what my ethnicity is aren't necessarily a waste of time. A lot of them spend money.
Nina_
04-25-2012, 12:20 PM
I pretty new to dancing. Do you girls consider a guy who buys only one dance to be a time waster?
If it was a busy night and I kinda just walked up to him, introduced myself, got his name, and then he bought a dance I wouldn't consider it a waste of time. But if we actually had sat down and had a conversation and drink(s) and he only got one, I'd be upset.
MsYoohoo
01-30-2017, 11:52 AM
SUPER old...but good info.
LoveyDovey
01-30-2017, 12:40 PM
There's this one guy who comes in, pulls out a seat for me to sit in, talks my ear off, and then doesn't tip or buy a dance. He used to buy dances, but the last 2 times he's pulled this crap. Next time I see him, rather than join him, I'm just going to tell him that I only have time to do a quick dance, as I have a regular coming in to see me in a little bit. He'd better take the hint that he is not to take advantage of me.
EvaTheGamingStripper
01-31-2017, 11:03 PM
Indian guys who ask you to show them your pussy while you're on stage. I showed him my middle finger poking out of my crotch and told him he could suck it later, very effective.
I'm absolutely in love with this. This ALL day.
EvaTheGamingStripper
01-31-2017, 11:06 PM
I knew some clubs that, if a customer will be doing for a whole rotation of girls, those customer will be asked to leave.
Really? They actually have clubs like that?! I want to be in those clubs so badly, it would make my life SO much easier...
LoveyDovey
02-05-2017, 07:01 AM
Indian guys who ask you to show them your pussy while you're on stage. I showed him my middle finger poking out of my crotch and told him he could suck it later, very effective.
Omg. Dead!
SnuffleUffleGrass
02-05-2017, 07:21 AM
OH GOD....I have so many funny experiences to draw on. Off the top of my head....
1) Seems to be scamming YOU right away. One loser would come in with a bottle of store bought salsa, claim he just came from a meeting with investors, and was getting ready to market HIS new idea for a new type of salsa. (Trying to appear newly rich.) In these cases he's talking about himself or how awesome he is for 5-10 minutes- does not express any interest in you, or buying you a drink.
2) Refuses to interact with you during your approach and greeting. Is not interested in your offer to come back with a friend. This guy has no money & came in to fill up space.
3) Appears to be under the influence of hard narcotics or is very drunk (smells and looks drunk.) Usually this customer will be thrown out before he has a chance to get dances, if he doesn't pass out first.
totalnewbie
02-21-2017, 06:44 PM
UGH. Im sure this has already been stated but guys who almost immediately when you start talking with them ask when you are going on stage. I have never ever had one of these guys come up to tip me well during the stage set or want to do anything after (If I was actually going on stage soon).
If I know Im not like one song away from stage or Im at a club where doing dances gets you out of stage (the semi private ones anyway,not the low contact cheap table dances), I usually say something about I dont know or not for a long time but I can dance for you personally in the back, that dance is more interactive and fun anyway *wink* and if they still refuse then im gone mid sentence.
Those guys just want a free show, and let a bunch of cheapos come in on a slow shift or a day shift with minimal customers and no one tipping. im not taking shit off.
totalnewbie
02-21-2017, 06:45 PM
Young guys who come in asking for your "IG" the second you start talking to them.
LadyJezebel
02-27-2017, 08:51 AM
Guys that talk constantly without letting you get a word in edgewise. They don't want you to have time to talk sexy and ask for a dance.
People who keep a stack of money on the table
Guys, particularly the young ones, trying to impress with a flash suit or anything that looks out of place and like he's trying too hard
Guys that HAVE to know your REAL name, your hometown, where you went to school etc
"I know the manager/DJ/bartender etc"
Guys that say they used to date a stripper so they totally know what we are doing...
"I'm in sales"
People under the age of 25
totalnewbie
02-27-2017, 09:07 AM
Guys that talk about how much money they spent in the strip club the last time that they were there. I dont always find these total time wasters, sometimes good for a dance or a few. But typically really annoying.
LoveyDovey
02-27-2017, 10:27 PM
Guys that talk about how much money they spent in the strip club the last time that they were there. I dont always find these total time wasters, sometimes good for a dance or a few. But typically really annoying.
Whenever guys say stuff like this, I'm so tempted to tell them to put their money where their mouth is.
Kate8
01-27-2018, 09:15 PM
Guys that say they will give you cash- but don't reach for their wallets...
This just happened last night with 2 douchey dudes in a VIP booth who "knew the DJ/bouncer/whatever"
HIM: I'll give you $100. Take care of my friend.
ME: Sure, want me to give him some dances for that hundred?
HIM: No, just take care of him. He's a nice guy.
ME: Of course I will, I'd love to.
(a few minutes pass... light conversation... no cash is exchanged....)
ME: So.... why don't we settle this up now so before we both forget about it?"
HIM: You wanna be like that? You bitch, get the fuck out of here, etc,
ME: ?? Why would I spend an indefinite amount of time "taking care" of your friend without being paid upfront?
HIM: [more insults]
THEN the "Nice guy" later says to me, "How come you never came back? My friend gave you $100."
I'm like, "Umm, No he DIDN'T that's WHY i left." Then he starts saying he *SAW* him give me the money, Am I calling him a liar, etc.
What pieces of work!!!! Called it, though.
random stripper
01-28-2018, 07:33 AM
Oh god just keep things extremely short with dipshits like that and straight ignore them if they come back. I've had similar scenarios to the above as well.
random stripper
01-28-2018, 07:36 AM
UGH. Im sure this has already been stated but guys who almost immediately when you start talking with them ask when you are going on stage. I have never ever had one of these guys come up to tip me well during the stage set or want to do anything after (If I was actually going on stage soon).
If I know Im not like one song away from stage or Im at a club where doing dances gets you out of stage (the semi private ones anyway,not the low contact cheap table dances), I usually say something about I dont know or not for a long time but I can dance for you personally in the back, that dance is more interactive and fun anyway *wink* and if they still refuse then im gone mid sentence.
Those guys just want a free show, and let a bunch of cheapos come in on a slow shift or a day shift with minimal customers and no one tipping. im not taking shit off.
Yeah I rarely get topless on stage and I only work topless clubs. Fuck freeloaders and cheap bastards. Also the nasty fucks that want tits in face for $1 or for u to ride the back of their head with ur vag for $1 or legs over shoulders, you get what I mean. I can't be bothered with that shit.
Ifyouseekamy
01-28-2018, 09:12 AM
^^^ agreed. I probably do too much on stage. It’s just kinda the norm and I don’t feel like being the prude girl.
Time waster. Don’t let guys lead you on. No more than a few song of chit chat. As soon as they touch me, I ask for the sale. You never really know which guys will spend or not until you pitch the sale. I just set a personal limit of 2-5 songs. If they are good company and not like an octopus I’ll stay for a few songs, but if they are negative and touch probably 1 song is the Max. Oh and anytime, they ask to see your ass or boobs...I walk away in midsentence. I don’t know why guys do it, but I can’t think of a time I’ve ever gotten a dance from a guy who said, “turn around” or “let me see” or just many bullshit to be honest. If you feel uncomfortable pitch the sale and leave.
random stripper
01-28-2018, 09:28 PM
I'm not even that patient with them, but I agree with that. Anytime a guy starts to piss me off even if it's immediately as I walk to him I pitch the sale. I think the reason I am so incredibly short with guys is because we don't have VIP or champagne sessions out where I am, and I really can't justify spending much time at all trying to squeeze out $20 from them or possibly multiple $20s.
I do, however, work at clubs that guys are used to girls taking their god damn time before pitching a sale or simply drinking with them for anywhere from 20 min to several hours (wish I was kidding). So I am aware my attitude perhaps hurts me sometimes. But idk on normal nights where we don't have girls getting finger banged for $20 I'm normally the top dance seller. (doesn't take much to be the top seller in these parts really)..
SugarCookies
02-07-2018, 08:15 PM
Captain Save a Hoe
Guys who bring up drugs
Guys who wait a while or ignore you when you ask them if they'd like a dance.
Guys who want to massage you while you sit with them and guys who try to undress you while you're sitting with them as well. When I tell them we should go for a dance/VIP if they want to do that, they always say "maybe later" and that is codeword for no.
Customers who were dragged in to the club by their friends.
RyanXO
02-28-2018, 02:16 PM
"Have you gone on stage yet? When do you go on stage? I want to see you on stage!"
I hear this one a lot**
**Have heard
Girl Anachronism
02-28-2018, 04:13 PM
if a waitress comes over and they order themselves a drink right in front of you and don't ask if you want anything. that's a pet peeve of mine and tells me they're either on a budget or not interested in me.
ALSO another one i've been encountering a lot recently is guys bragging to me about how much pussy they get on seeking arrangements. if a guy even casually mentions that website i just excuse myself ASAP. idk why they bother coming in if they supposedly have hoards of young women dying to fuck them and hang out and spend the night for like $200 a day.
blondhottie
02-28-2018, 07:06 PM
Asks you a million personal questions right off the bat, such as:
"How old are you?"
"Do you have any kids?"
"Are you married/have a boyfriend?"
"Do your parents know you do this?"
Doesn't offer to buy you a drink when the bartender/waitress comes around
Tries to put his hands all over you or tries to get you to sit on his lap the instant you approach
Says "I'd love to take you to dinner/meet you outside of here" right off the bat
Says "I know the manager/owner/DJ"
Talks about knowing how this works or they used to date a stripper
Has one word answers to everything, doesn't look at you, barely talks (although some guys are just shy and I've had a couple guys totally surprise me. I thought they weren't interested because they would barely look at me or talk to me, but they bought one or more dances when I asked them. Turns out they were just shy or not good at making conversation. So always ask everybody for a dance, even if you're almost positive they'll say no!)
WendiStarr
03-01-2018, 03:28 PM
Aside from Captain Save a Hoes, I think the biggest timewasters are the bullshit talkers. These are the ones that wait for you to approach them and immediately start bragging to you about how much $ they make. They'll claim to be a successful business owner or management in charge of x department somewhere. Meanwhile they're not tipping you. They're not buying any dances. They're not doing anything other than talking about how much $ they have, how they have so many powerful connections, and how great their life is. When you ask them if they want to buy a dance or go to VIP, they start going off on how they have two hot, bisexual 18 year old supermodels at home waiting for them and that they're just here to enjoy the scenery, have a beer, or have a burger because strip club burgers are somehow superior than an actual restaurant, lol. Fantasy storytellers = timewasters in my experience.
We had a rabbit like you
03-02-2018, 08:43 AM
Guys who make a big deal out of saying “soo what else do you do?? What’s your other job? You mean you have nothing else??”
They’re trying to make themselves feel less guilty for not paying you, hoping that stripping is just a fun side gig to release your nympho tendencies for horny stinky old men 😂
Ifyouseekamy
03-02-2018, 06:54 PM
I get a funny feeling and I excuse myself. Never prejudge your customer. Always be polite and respectful. I talk the talk and see if they wanna but a dance, and I come back to maybe laters, but anything other than like 5-10 minutes and they need to buy a timed VIP for the girlfriend experience. Time is money
Kate8
03-03-2018, 01:19 AM
Has one word answers to everything, doesn't look at you, barely talks (although some guys are just shy and I've had a couple guys totally surprise me. I thought they weren't interested because they would barely look at me or talk to me, but they bought one or more dances when I asked them. Turns out they were just shy or not good at making conversation. So always ask everybody for a dance, even if you're almost positive they'll say no!)
Oh my god last night I sat down with a guy and he was giving me one word answers and not making eye contact. Normally I would have assumed he was uninterested and left but I remembered your post so I asked him for a dance and sure enough he got one ! So thanks!