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lopaw
01-05-2012, 08:24 PM
This is why I don't pay...


But when you realize that hiring an escort or visiting an AMP should be the same emotionally as getting a lapdance, it helps put the experience into perspective. It's still a "fantasy" encounter that we are looking for, but with P4P it just takes it to a much further interactive level.

As much as we want to like and get to know our sexual providers, at least for me there has to be a maintained distance so as not to disrupt the sexual fantasy. So it really doesn't matter if she really isn't into girls (or guys for that matter), as long as the time spent satisfies the physical needs and she has us believing that we are the only person in the world.....at least for that time that we are together.

I have been with one girl that admittedly wasn't into girls very much, but you could never tell it by her performance. It was kind of surreal to have her all over me one minute, then afterwards as we were grabbing a bite to eat we discussed her boyfriend, their sex life and her "gay for pay" philosophies. She could distance herself from her work in a way that I could never understand, but I truly appreciated what she offered and how she delivered.

unbeleavable
01-05-2012, 08:29 PM
You forget I was a male dancer...

charlie61
01-05-2012, 08:34 PM
^....'cept I'm asexual. Kinda takes the fun out of sex when you don't desire it all in the first place and get nothing out of it in the second place. /:O

unbeleavable
01-05-2012, 08:36 PM
Then why are you playing...

charlie61
01-05-2012, 08:38 PM
^ I'm not. Just wish I could.

unbeleavable
01-05-2012, 08:40 PM
I'm sorry...really.... because sex & connection at that time is what people pay for...

charlie61
01-05-2012, 08:43 PM
I'm sorry...really.... because sex & connection at that time is what people pay for...

Totally wasn't trying to direct the attention my way. Just made me think of that.

Now back to ze thread!

Brandi_Lynn
01-06-2012, 03:46 AM
See, Charlie girl, I just always have the exact opposite problem as you -I'm tooo sexual -doesn't matter what gender or transgender or orientation. It's almost to the point that I need to be harnessed or muzzeled. Oi! :-[

GameOn
01-06-2012, 05:51 AM
Okay so this wild idea popped into my head about a week ago about possibly hiring a male escort just to pleasure me. Some of you are wondering why I would do this well I guess Iam tired of all these selfish a-holes who have no idea of how to satisfy a woman, and plus I guess the whole discretion thing is a plus. Well I know if someone responds they will tell me it is a stupid and dangerous idea. If one of you has done it let me know how the experience was. I mean men do it so why can't women do it as well.....8)

i've acted on it and i have a gf who's thought about it as well. you are not alone! i see nothing wrong with men or women paying for sex. i'm honestly tired of dating guys, investing a lot of time and energy only to find out they suck in bed or are overall a waste of time.

i'm pretty fussy w/how a guy's body looks as well. there are so many fat, overweight guys, it's very depressing or guys who don't bother to work out at all--no effort.

i look at it like shopping for a dress.

check out some male porn stars. many of them escort on the side. at least if you check out their videos, you see what your getting. i believe they all still get tested as well.

overall, use protection, check their junk out beforehand (lights on). many will argue that hooking up w/a guy in the business is dangerous because of the number of partners. yes, i agree to a point but how many "civilian" guys are out there pounding random chicks and never get tested??

i wish heidi fleiss was able to open her brothel for women in las vegas. i would have made the trip ;))).

charlie61
01-06-2012, 06:34 AM
See, Charlie girl, I just always have the exact opposite problem as you -I'm tooo sexual -doesn't matter what gender or transgender or orientation. It's almost to the point that I need to be harnessed or muzzeled. Oi! :-[

Really? That's super sexy to me. I'm so intrigued! :-*

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 03:24 AM
Like I said I assumed...I don't really know a lot of escorts & really didn't know there was a market for it. I know of keep men but they weren't advertising services to all. It doesn't take much to make a AFF account & you get to see what you get before...I have one;)

The question i know is nieve on my part but what is aff? Not being coy just new to this subject.

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 03:31 AM
i've acted on it and i have a gf who's thought about it as well. you are not alone! i see nothing wrong with men or women paying for sex. i'm honestly tired of dating guys, investing a lot of time and energy only to find out they suck in bed or are overall a waste of time.

i'm pretty fussy w/how a guy's body looks as well. there are so many fat, overweight guys, it's very depressing or guys who don't bother to work out at all--no effort.

i look at it like shopping for a dress.

check out some male porn stars. many of them escort on the side. at least if you check out their videos, you see what your getting. i believe they all still get tested as well.

overall, use protection, check their junk out beforehand (lights on). many will argue that hooking up w/a guy in the business is dangerous because of the number of partners. yes, i agree to a point but how many "civilian" guys are out there pounding random chicks and never get tested??

i wish heidi fleiss was able to open her brothel for women in las vegas. i would have made the trip ;))).

Thank you gameon we are on the same page it is true of course I have thought about std's as well because of the endless number of partners or clients they have. So I am a woman who practices safe sex liek they said no glove no love. Just to mention I have nly done it bare once until I am or find a guy to be in a monogamus relationship with. I totally agree many civilian guys out there sleeping around with girls and dont bother to get tested or wear protection... took the words out of my mouth. Too bad though heidi didn't open her stud farm in vegas i would have made the trip as well.....damn

s0calbrunette

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 03:34 AM
^....'cept I'm asexual. Kinda takes the fun out of sex when you don't desire it all in the first place and get nothing out of it in the second place. /:O

I like that charlie "asexual" right on

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 03:40 AM
But when you realize that hiring an escort or visiting an AMP should be the same emotionally as getting a lapdance, it helps put the experience into perspective. It's still a "fantasy" encounter that we are looking for, but with P4P it just takes it to a much further interactive level.

As much as we want to like and get to know our sexual providers, at least for me there has to be a maintained distance so as not to disrupt the sexual fantasy. So it really doesn't matter if she really isn't into girls (or guys for that matter), as long as the time spent satisfies the physical needs and she has us believing that we are the only person in the world.....at least for that time that we are together.

I have been with one girl that admittedly wasn't into girls very much, but you could never tell it by her performance. It was kind of surreal to have her all over me one minute, then afterwards as we were grabbing a bite to eat we discussed her boyfriend, their sex life and her "gay for pay" philosophies. She could distance herself from her work in a way that I could never understand, but I truly appreciated what she offered and how she delivered.

That is true lopaw the little time we spend together fulfulling our fantasy and physical needs, wants, desires and so on is worth it because who knows if I meet a random stranger will he fullfill that desire or yearning I am looking for maybe... maybe not it is a risk I decide I will have to make

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 04:09 AM
I understand that to some degree but upon joining the site the first vision I saw was that "Warning peep show performs etc" and seeing that nasty fat grotesque guy with his 1 incher was pretty much what enters my mind. Plus there was one time when I thought about escorting minus the sex of course and was told from the ugly guy that wanted to "pre -test" me that most men would look exactly like that. I didn't know a pretest was which he later explained and of course I bailed on the whole idea.

Most escort seekers are married yes so that makes sense why they would want to pay to not have issues. I don't see lopaw really as the femme- heels, min skirt, gloss and make up wearing type. If she's not the above type then it wouldn't shock or surprise me that she would do it just because she can.

I also understand the whole NSA thing as well. Generally escorts are not seeing the ultra hot 25 year old beef cake with sexy abs and is single. That's probably a rare to occur even though I'm sure it happens on occasion.

Also some men are just up in age and don't feel like doing all the work of dating in hopes of getting laid. I mean how easy is it to go out and pick up someone half your age that is equally attracted to you as you are to them? As people age generally I would think it gets harder especially if they aren't working hard to physically look their best.

So yes a guy at any age can have sex but sex with what? If someone wants something or someone visually specific it will cost unless their looks match or are on the level with the person they want.

In other words what I'm trying to say is .... I get it.

Oh of course I know you get it cherry it is true most escort seekers are married but also maybe the rare few are single and seeking great sex with a partner who is willing to provide a fantasy maybe or desire and physical satisfaction that they hardly receive. But it is true most male escorts are older gentlemen who prefer not to work for a relationship but just rather p4p based on their physical features and what physical pleasure they can fulfill. Eventhough they are not attracted to thier payee but they know that their payee is very attractive to them. I guess because they know that their seeker or payee is getting something that they know can or will not get again which is a attractive person with good qualities. Like I said some people have all the luck and some don't.

It is harder though because when you do get older your way of thinking changes you mature more, also you do have to work out to keep your physical appearance in to shape in order to look desirable and attract a person to you especially here in L.A. which is true I have seen it. The older you get, you tend to want a person half your age. Of course I know that look do not matter but what counts is how the person treats you and their personality, but there are some attractive people who do have a f***ed up attitude.

It is true if someone wants something specific or visually specific it may cost unless if the person they want is on match with their level. It may cost more as well if they want something specific or visually specific especially if the person is not on match with their level or someone they would take as a client.

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 04:14 AM
I would have assumed all male escorts were gay...I guess you learn stuff all the time.

Well unbeleavable not all escorts are at least i don't think so, some do the whole gay for pay thing whether it be escorting or porn. Of course some are actually gay which I dont care ot judge it is thier personal choice and business.

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 04:22 AM
well, not that it really matters - I'm not ultra femme, but I'm not butch either - I'm something in the middle. Soft butch? Hard femme? Oh I hate labels! ;D

Those in the sex industry that meet me claim to not realize that I am gay, which probably has thrown off alot of dancers & other ladies that I have met over the years. Many have asked about my "husband" when we got to chatting. I remember one rather aggressive dancer once jumped in my lap at a request of a nearby table of young guys, just to see what I'd do. Apparently they didn't realize my orientation.
Let's just say that my reaction shocked the crap out of all of them, and I gave that dancer a visit that I hope she'll never forget! }:D

Well lopaw I figured you were in the middle since you seem to have luck with the ladies, plus when you meet people you throw them off about your orientation and they don't realize your gay. I think if I met you I would be thrown off as well.

But I have seen girls who you look at and you are surprise about their sexual orientation. What can I say its crazy when you are surprised.

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 04:24 AM
^ I'm not. Just wish I could.

Go for it charlie I mean if Iam thinking about it I you should too.

Just a thought.....

unbeleavable
01-07-2012, 09:05 AM
The question i know is nieve on my part but what is aff? Not being coy just new to this subject.

I see you didn't want this thread to die so you quoted everybody...

s0cal....No need to be coy? The one thing I've learned in life is there are "Givers & Takers" & even more so in this Industry & It's easy to see the Takers here.

As a male that was in this Industry..
I didn't share my dancer days to pound my chest because as I'm not ashamed of those days... I'm more proud of today....I was a mid tier guy & I worked with some real hustlers....Baby Boy(that had a Dick to his knees) & Plastic Man that had Pec implants, Calf implants, his face done & both had Pussy dripping off them back then & Never was escorting brought up. If you are a male dancer or BB you probably have dealt with guys hitting on you....not a big deal.

I talked a friend last night & her response to the escorting was....I'm going to shack my ass all night then hand that to a guy to fuck me....lol :D

If in fact you are in LA...do a google search of AFF;)

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 01:19 PM
Thank you for the google search hint unbeleav... I will check it out. I agree with you there are the givers and takers whether it be in the sex industry or any other industry. Hustlers are everywhere and anybody can choose to be hustled or not and walk away.

Its not that I want this thread to die I just try to respond and give my opinion to people who have taken the time to read my thread. I don't want them to think I am ignoring them.8)

unbeleavable
01-07-2012, 01:37 PM
I hope you find what you are looking for as I walk away....I look forward to future posts.

s0calbrunette
01-07-2012, 06:45 PM
when i get the nerve to do it I will post my results and how it went

cherryblossomsinspring
01-09-2012, 04:51 AM
I don't know what AFF is either but I figure if it's said enough times I'll figure it out. Well wish you success with the escort you decide to go with. I will say some of those guys are hot. Since I saw this in another thread.... Would you feel comfortable kissing a male escort? Full tongue like a date knowing that he may have performed unprotected oral on a guy or another girl?

neliana
01-10-2012, 02:38 AM
AFF = Adultfriendfinder (Im assuming) I know some girls that use it to find tricks or sugar daddys, it's supposed to be a hook up site. In relation to the OP's post, I can see why a woman would want to hire a male escort. It's not just about "getting laid" it's about having a man really pay attention to your needs and do whatever he can to please you. Hard to find a random guy at a bar (or on a hook-up site) that will cater to you and do his best to satisfy you. I've never hired an escort, but I can totally see why you would want to.

cherryblossomsinspring
01-10-2012, 08:23 AM
^ Actually the way you just worded that makes perfect sense. No more blow and go types but someone that actually knows what he's doing and will put in the work. I get that. Wow you can find sugar daddy's on there? Didn't think that would be the case. I read AFF was a scam site with mostly fake profiles. I guess if someone does enough digging then they could find someone for no strings sex.

neliana
01-10-2012, 03:32 PM
Yeah I wouldn't go on there for sugar daddies personally though, one girl I knew was willing to fuck for as low as 50 bucks and dinner so it was ok for her lol. I think it's mostly cheap guys and fake profiles, but if you're willing to put up with a lot of BS you could probably find a hook up. I would rather just hire a male escort though!

cherryblossomsinspring
01-10-2012, 03:41 PM
Well I want to hear about everyone's findings on this experiment. I'd rather have no sex than to pay a man to "f" me but that's just me. I still want to hear all of the steamy hot details from price, looks, "SIZE", technique. etc. Body hair? Did he come off as straight or you knew he was gay? I mean all the details. I'm actually excited for the lady that goes for it....

unbeleavable
01-10-2012, 04:43 PM
I have 3 friends from there...2 hotties that are around my age & one couple I met that like to share the wife & she is a beast & hot. I don't go on there looking, they found me... One I had a 2 hour play session today;) Yes there are fakes but I don't spend much time there once I found a few friends.

William Folds
01-11-2012, 02:52 PM
Well I want to hear about everyone's findings on this experiment. I'd rather have no sex than to pay a man to "f" me but that's just me. I still want to hear all of the steamy hot details from price, looks, "SIZE", technique. etc. Body hair? Did he come off as straight or you knew he was gay? I mean all the details. I'm actually excited for the lady that goes for it....

Me too this is like watching television

s0calbrunette
01-13-2012, 08:34 PM
Yeah I think I would hire a escort instead of looking on aff

s0calbrunette
01-13-2012, 08:35 PM
Well im being selfish this time I want someone to cater to my needs.

s0calbrunette
01-13-2012, 08:38 PM
I don't know what AFF is either but I figure if it's said enough times I'll figure it out. Well wish you success with the escort you decide to go with. I will say some of those guys are hot. Since I saw this in another thread.... Would you feel comfortable kissing a male escort? Full tongue like a date knowing that he may have performed unprotected oral on a guy or another girl?

This applies to meeting a random single guy at a bar or somewhere else, I mean they do get around as well. :0)

unbeleavable
01-13-2012, 08:52 PM
Then this where you should be asking..?

cherryblossomsinspring
01-14-2012, 12:38 AM
Any new developments on this front??? I'm still waiting on details..... Actually I was on a hunt for this thread because I just couldn't find it. How did it go??? Details?? Ohh William I'm with you on this.... Best Channel Ever right now!!! lol

Lovelyme
01-14-2012, 12:55 AM
He is FINE! AND in you area :)

cherryblossomsinspring
01-14-2012, 11:37 AM
Looks like nothing yet but advertisements. Wow I was all excited!! Shame on you !! Anyways still waiting.....

GameOn
02-09-2012, 04:14 AM
I wish i lived in australia, he sounds like a dream! getting ready to boot my booty buddy. he's an absolute 10 body-wise but sucks in bed, lol. my patience is wearing ;)).



I have a few friends who escort (one is husband/wife team) and he is 100% hot! plus great in bed. spends hours massaging and foreplay, able to shag for hours on end without 'finishing' himself.
Hes really busy, and ironically many of his female customers are also escorts, who want to be pampered for a change :)

cherryblossomsinspring
02-10-2012, 03:55 PM
so no news??? wow what a let down.

Brandi_Lynn
02-11-2012, 05:40 AM
I wish i lived in australia, he sounds like a dream! getting ready to boot my booty buddy. he's an absolute 10 body-wise but sucks in bed, lol. my patience is wearing ;)).

I refuse to settle for bad sex -I had a bf for three & a half years that couldn't last longer than a minute or two most! Ugh, never again! No thank you, right?!

GameOn
02-15-2012, 04:46 AM
you're right. he's just so HOT physically. i love looking at him but it will get old.

slowpoke
02-15-2012, 08:17 AM
I refuse to settle for bad sex -I had a bf for three & a half years that couldn't last longer than a minute or two most! Ugh, never again! No thank you, right?!

I always wanted to learn how to do that.

cherryblossomsinspring
03-07-2012, 02:34 AM
I refuse to settle for bad sex -I had a bf for three & a half years that couldn't last longer than a minute or two most! Ugh, never again! No thank you, right?!

Wow 3+1/2 years? That's so horrible. I think I would have stopped fucking him after the first year, but you made it through almost 3 more. Men just don't realize what we do in the name of Love. How long do you think that man would have stayed "faithful" if she didn't have sex with him at all? 3 months? Sad that he couldn't have tried to learn something through those years. He must be running around disappointing women on a grand scale.

bigdog83
03-11-2012, 11:09 PM
Why not try a bar/club? Try finding a retro/dance club by you. These will attract an older crowd and not the 21+. You will often see women at these places solo. Pick out someone you fancy, get to know one another and then go home together. Or grab a GF, get a guy to approach, if you fancy give him your number and then meet up later and no one will ever know.

Theres tons of ways.

Just be up front. you know, tell him you just want him as a boy toy, fuck buddy etc. You do not want anything else. Most single guys would die for this.

lestat1
03-12-2012, 08:43 PM
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ArmySGT.
03-12-2012, 09:01 PM
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*No actual messages received; numeric results are from simulation-based estimates.

I think you will meet your Man anytime now. O_O

Vyanka
03-13-2012, 01:52 AM
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