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anonymous camgirl
04-15-2015, 06:41 AM
I have been going on there for like 1 hour a day..LOL.. it is so frustrating.... They won't even hardly tip for anything.. What gives? I have been making $4 an hour .. LMAO!.. I also find it odd rarely does anyone even ask about private or roleplay or anything!... 1 hour of their bullshit is all I can take honestly... My strategy is to go on for short bursts every day til I build up some regulars.

SarahTime
04-15-2015, 03:42 PM
http://www.flirt4free.com/broadcasters.php

Also www.webcam4money.com is their direct sign up site.

I haven't been on there as much since SM picked up so I can't speak for the last two weeks but when I was on there last, I was still really enjoying it.

brittany_bitch
04-15-2015, 04:53 PM
sarah do you think making an extra 500- a grand a month would be possible on f4f?
Do they send out 1099s?

Magical_Hoohah
04-17-2015, 08:56 PM
I tried out F4F for the first time today. HOLY HELL! I have never EVER been so irritated by my chat room on any site. I'm usually pretty hard to rattle, and I must have an aura that normally discourages beggars and whiners, but I was this close to grabbing my riding crop and giving a lecture in F4F free chat.

I learned really quickly that I will not be turning on the "offers" option unless, by some miracle, there is a finsub that wants to pay more than I'm permitted to charge. Some dude begged me to turn it on, I did it because I was curious to see how it worked, and dude immediately sent me an offer for 10 credits ($1) per minute! WTF! Then he whined at me at length for turning the offers back off. And he was not the worst offender in the room, by far! I'm not sure what explanation you're supposed to write in the box when banning dudes for being cheap and whiny.

I will give it another shot, but I'm worried that these guys are so poorly trained that they can't be salvaged.

Prussia
04-17-2015, 09:29 PM
I tried out F4F for the first time today. HOLY HELL! I have never EVER been so irritated by my chat room on any site. I'm usually pretty hard to rattle, and I must have an aura that normally discourages beggars and whiners, but I was this close to grabbing my riding crop and giving a lecture in F4F free chat.

I learned really quickly that I will not be turning on the "offers" option unless, by some miracle, there is a finsub that wants to pay more than I'm permitted to charge. Some dude begged me to turn it on, I did it because I was curious to see how it worked, and dude immediately sent me an offer for 10 credits ($1) per minute! WTF! Then he whined at me at length for turning the offers back off. And he was not the worst offender in the room, by far! I'm not sure what explanation you're supposed to write in the box when banning dudes for being cheap and whiny.

I will give it another shot, but I'm worried that these guys are so poorly trained that they can't be salvaged.

I wish I could click a thanks a million times on this post.

I worked F4F a day this week and was offered 8 (EIGHT!!) 10tpm shows as well. Any more time on that site and I would have probably snapped, ran around in a circle and then stuck a fork in my arm from going mental. I have no clue how I use to work on this site before. SarahTime how do you handle it lol?!

anonymous camgirl
04-18-2015, 06:32 AM
I have noticed that they ask you a bunch of stupid questions like they are in high school.. I have only been working an hour a day on there cuz that's all I can stand and I average $5 an hour...LOL>.. they ask such stupid questions like what would you do if you were in the bar and I was 55 and I offered you $200 to show your tits?.. ..just stupid shit I quit answering them and just ignoring them... They don't even ask about what you do in pvt.. it's insane. and tipping? it's like they never heard of it!

SarahTime
04-20-2015, 11:13 AM
I wish I could click a thanks a million times on this post.

I worked F4F a day this week and was offered 8 (EIGHT!!) 10tpm shows as well. Any more time on that site and I would have probably snapped, ran around in a circle and then stuck a fork in my arm from going mental. I have no clue how I use to work on this site before. SarahTime how do you handle it lol?!

Honestly, yah there are a lot of annoying freeloaders on that site. Kind of like LJ level of annoying, if you ever worked LJ. I've just had to zone them out and completely ignore them. Make sure you turn off basic and guests from chatting. The other guys are just members who signed up for the 120 credits and then never bought more. But yah, I just pretend they aren't even there.

I also don't turn on offers because they are ALL 10 cpm lol which is just like? Seriously? No. So I leave offers off all the time.

I do think it is possible to make $500-$1000 a month on the site if you have a lot of time to work the site. My first 3 weeks on the site were GOOOOOOOD. I was surprised. I should have waited to write about the site on my blog (I'm going to post an update on there about it when I get enough time to sit down and write), because the last times I've logged on it was pretty dead so I haven't been putting as much time into it the last week or so. It's weird because the first two weeks I got a LOT of long privates. Then after those two weeks it was like, something switched and I wasn't getting many privates and only tips. So it's more like MFC now, where at first I was thinking okay this is going to be like SM, where I can get privates since that's what I prefer. But no, it's turned out to be very MFC-ish.

I don't know though. I'm kind of confused. I was so excited about the site at first because it was going so great! I guess maybe it was the "new" status? I haven't given up on the site yet though, I am going tow work it more before I decide I just haven't had time lately.

LaylaLovely
04-29-2015, 03:00 PM
Man these guys are on you!!! Phone calls emails.. Twitter outreaches.. I've never even broadcasted yet I do like the support but I just told them sorry but I don't like the idea of my privates being recorded for there tube sites :/

SimoneGray
04-29-2015, 06:53 PM
^^ they only get on the tube site if you put them there, but yea I totally get it. F4F is up and down really...I have some good days, some bad ones. I'd say its worse than SM but better than sites like CB and KL where traffic is an issue for me.

LaylaLovely
04-29-2015, 08:09 PM
I might give them a go since there support is so adamant and pretty much has resolved every single one of my concerns..I might like it who knows and I am looking for a 4th site .. I can't wait until kinklive get get restriction

Magical_Hoohah
05-01-2015, 11:30 PM
I gave F4F another serious go tonight because I finally figured out how to arrange shit very precisely so that I can run SM, KL, and F4F at the same time (on only one screen!). I've never successfully split 3 sites for that long (previously I tried SM, AW, and KL, which always decimated my CPU), but it worked out pretty well. Between the three sites, things stayed quite lively, and I actually made some money on F4F. I don't really understand what a power boost is, but I got a bunch of those, too.

I think guys usually behave better when they realize that you have a whole bunch of people to talk to, and that you could get snatched off to private at any second.

LaylaLovely
05-02-2015, 07:48 AM
So they've been chatting with me on Twitter but at the end they asked me if I'd be splitting.....I was just like yes and they haven't wrote me back lol....yes I'd like to work from one site but that's not the reality for most cam girls and they need to understand that

sexysusie
05-02-2015, 09:37 AM
MH can I ask how you got it all on one screen? I split but use different cams on different laptops and it gets very confusing lol!!!

anonymous camgirl
05-02-2015, 10:13 AM
^^ you use splitcam software and you can use more than one encoder also .. your computer has to be powerful enough though..

sexysusie
05-02-2015, 02:35 PM
I want to split CB, MFC, and Justcamit on one screen. I usually use my old samsung laptop but im not sure it would be up to the job. However I have a new video editing pc, a lenovo i7, do you think that would handle it?

JGB2009
05-03-2015, 06:08 PM
I signed up here in 2012 but didn't go through the whole sign up process. Just finished signing up last week, so tomorrow night I will give it a go.

Hoping I will like it and it will be a good egg.

SimoneGray
05-03-2015, 06:35 PM
Its very decent for side money I find...if you set a small goal there everyday, its not so bad as a huge one.

JGB2009
05-27-2015, 12:47 AM
I finally logged in tonight. This site is kind of confusing. When u log into the software I see it has Private and Voyeur, Multi user, and Private and Multi user. Plus it has different CPM. Just kind of curious on what everyone is choosing here????

Also where do you block basics and guest?

Hopefully I get the hang of it on here..............

Pearl_Sugar
10-28-2015, 03:54 AM
Bump. Considering flirt4free, need current model experiences

anonymous camgirl
10-28-2015, 06:00 AM
I can't make it work for me.. I have but all given up on it...lol.. I go on there just hoping i'll make some money.. most of the time I do not.

Magical_Hoohah
12-02-2015, 01:12 AM
So, I've been splitting F4F off and on with SM and MyFetishLive for the past week or so, and I just noticed a feature that I think is awesome and worth mentioning.

They have this thing called a Powerscore, and it's basically how they calculate your ranking/placement, similar to the SM algorithm, I suspect. The interesting thing is that they have a page where you can see exactly how your powerscore breaks down and what exactly contributes to it. That's pretty cool in and of itself, but the really interesting thing is that two of the factors are how many guests you've converted in the past week and how many tokens were purchased by guys sitting in your room (not necessarily spent on you, just purchased) in the past week.

I think that's kind of awesome, because no other site that I know of that gives you any specific information on how well you convert. In pretty much every post, Sam38G talks about how a good model has a good conversion rate. I know that's true, but every time I read it, I think, "Great, but how the fuck would I know if I convert well or not? For all I know, I've never converted anyone, since a lot of my earnings come from dedicated regs." Well, now I know that in about 5 hours on F4F, I've converted x number of guys, and people have bought $xxx worth of tokens in my room. So much for the girl that wondered whether or not she's ever converted a customer!

I will also mention that the F4F guys still seem pretty cheap and pushy, and they never shut up, but at least I don't have to have fake conversations if my SM room is too quiet.

Blovely
04-09-2016, 05:56 AM
Bump. I added this to my split-cam list. Just wondering if you ladies have or use a tip menu?

anonymous camgirl
04-09-2016, 10:36 AM
Yes I use a tip menu.. 100-cr TITS, 50- ass 30 stand up and 30 feet

anonymous camgirl
04-09-2016, 10:45 AM
Good news! I made it work for me.. as soon as I got a gaming computer my income skyrocketed to new heights.. hmmm.. February was my biggest check there!.. March is good but not that great.. so I am concerned a lil that I will not get that good feeling from them that I had in February..



I can't make it work for me.. I have but all given up on it...lol.. I go on there just hoping i'll make some money.. most of the time I do not.

Blovely
04-09-2016, 12:39 PM
Good news! I made it work for me.. as soon as I got a gaming computer my income skyrocketed to new heights.. hmmm.. February was my biggest check there!.. March is good but not that great.. so I am concerned a lil that I will not get that good feeling from them that I had in February..

Thanks. That's great to hear. I cammed on there last night didn't make a ton but I did make something. Although I didn't make a lot it felt good to make money on more sites. Anyways in previous threads you said you cam on like 14 sites. I've pretty much added close to that amount of sites to my split-cam list. Just wondering if you're running all of those sites on 1 computer and if you're what computer are you using if you don't mind.

EllieGold
04-09-2016, 01:34 PM
i think i need to understand their token system better. I got signed up! :) Ready to start there.

EllieGold
04-09-2016, 01:36 PM
Good news! I made it work for me.. as soon as I got a gaming computer my income skyrocketed to new heights.. hmmm.. February was my biggest check there!.. March is good but not that great.. so I am concerned a lil that I will not get that good feeling from them that I had in February..

I got a new gaming rig too (I don't split cam). Maybe I should try this splitcamming so I can add another egg. Can't i do it with a new Core i7? SM takes 30% from the broadcaster on my computer (resource hog imo). I think I just might go back to FMLE and split. Hate only depending on SM these days. I have been hearing good things about f4f.

anonymous camgirl
04-10-2016, 06:03 AM
Each Credit is worth .10 .... so 100 credit is $10
Beware of turning on your offers as MOST of the guys will totally lowball you offering you 10-20-30 credits per min which is $1, $2 and $3.... They ALL do it .. It's infuriorating.. And if I am feeling like my mood is not so great I will not turn it on because I get all butt hurt when they want to take advantage of you... ridiculous.. I only accept offers above 40 CR per min which is what I charge for multi user shows.. There is NO reason why they should get a private all to themselves for less than that..

anonymous camgirl
04-10-2016, 06:21 AM
Thanks. That's great to hear. I cammed on there last night didn't make a ton but I did make something. Although I didn't make a lot it felt good to make money on more sites. Anyways in previous threads you said you cam on like 14 sites. I've pretty much added close to that amount of sites to my split-cam list. Just wondering if you're running all of those sites on 1 computer and if you're what computer are you using if you don't mind.


I posted my computer specs on another reply... I work on 8 live cam sites.. want another but I can't think of where I want to work.. I know a few are a HUGE NO for me.. And yes I just use 1 computer... I am using less than 50% CPU at all times.. I am also using the FMLE on SM and Cams only.... I only really have 5 good sites.. the 3 that barely make any money is camcontacts, webcams, and ifriends.. hardly make money on those sites at all.. so I am looking for other ones I can at the very least make $100 a week on..lol... I am so amazed how you can make so lil on a cam site in 30-40 hours a week.. to me split camming is a must.. I always have split cammed because of being a single mom and worrying if I will make enough to pay the bills week to week... you never know about sites.. sometimes they go down and you can't work on there at all.. or they suspend you or they terminate you.. etc etc.. .you are not secure knowing that everyday you can work on that one site.. I am glad my gravitational pull is pulling from SM.. because I hate relying on them so heavily .. still my fav site though.. but I am actually really enjoying CB these days.

anonymous camgirl
04-10-2016, 03:19 PM
I was just thinking is it bad that I have my windows product id key displayed? ? I never thought about it...


44682

Blovely
04-10-2016, 05:08 PM
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe you should block it out just in case. Camcontacts and Webcams along with a few other sites were one's that I was camming on the other night. I didn't make anything on either site and CC was the only site where not 1 person came in. After only one shift I decided that I probably will cross CC off of my split-cam list. I feel you. I didn't feel that SC was a must before but ever since SM pretty much sunk to the bottom of the ocean for me in February I now feel like SC is a must. At first I only added on Cams and Imlive but I learned quick that split-camming 3 sites just wasn't enough. SM is still my fav as well, most times I still make more money on there than other site.... I just don't make what I use to make. It def feels more secure no longer camming on one site and I no longer feel bored lol.

I posted my computer specs on another reply... I work on 8 live cam sites.. want another but I can't think of where I want to work.. I know a few are a HUGE NO for me.. And yes I just use 1 computer... I am using less than 50% CPU at all times.. I am also using the FMLE on SM and Cams only.... I only really have 5 good sites.. the 3 that barely make any money is camcontacts, webcams, and ifriends.. hardly make money on those sites at all.. so I am looking for other ones I can at the very least make $100 a week on..lol... I am so amazed how you can make so lil on a cam site in 30-40 hours a week.. to me split camming is a must.. I always have split cammed because of being a single mom and worrying if I will make enough to pay the bills week to week... you never know about sites.. sometimes they go down and you can't work on there at all.. or they suspend you or they terminate you.. etc etc.. .you are not secure knowing that everyday you can work on that one site.. I am glad my gravitational pull is pulling from SM.. because I hate relying on them so heavily .. still my fav site though.. but I am actually really enjoying CB these days.

Magical_Hoohah
04-10-2016, 08:09 PM
Maybe I should try this splitcamming so I can add another egg. Can't i do it with a new Core i7? SM takes 30% from the broadcaster on my computer (resource hog imo).
I think you'd probably be fine splitting SM and F4F, but it's hard to know without trying!


Each Credit is worth .10 .... so 100 credit is $10
Just in case anyone misunderstood this, the guys pay $0.10 for a credit. How much you get of that $0.10 will depend on your percentage, which varies from model to model. For example, my cut of a credit is $0.03, but it will be different for others depending on how you signed up and how much you earn.


Beware of turning on your offers as MOST of the guys will totally lowball you offering you 10-20-30 credits per min which is $1, $2 and $3.... They ALL do it .. It's infuriorating..
YES! I don't understand why anyone would turn on offers unless there is a finsub that wants to pay a higher rate. My first night on F4F, some guy convinced me to turn it on, saying he wanted to go private for 100 credits. I thought he meant 100 credits per minute, but what he actually sent in the offer was 100 credits ($10) total for a 10 minute private. Um...? Why on earth would I ever accept that? The same guy occasionally drops in and says something like "Did you ever figure out how to turn on offers, bb?" And when I tell him that I know how but won't do it unless he wants to pay over 60 credits per minute, he says "But bb, I want to send you a nice offer, because I can't afford the rates you have posted." #notmyproblem

anonymous camgirl
04-11-2016, 05:37 AM
true! however 50 credits $5.00 pm is better than nothing at all... if you are charging 60 credits per min for a pvt.. But yea I don't accept anything less than more than 40 cr per min.. as they can go to multi user for 40...
Never once had an offer of more than 60? I would love that!


I think you'd probably be fine splitting SM and F4F, but it's hard to know without trying!


Just in case anyone misunderstood this, the guys pay $0.10 for a credit. How much you get of that $0.10 will depend on your percentage, which varies from model to model. For example, my cut of a credit is $0.03, but it will be different for others depending on how you signed up and how much you earn.


YES! I don't understand why anyone would turn on offers unless there is a finsub that wants to pay a higher rate. My first night on F4F, some guy convinced me to turn it on, saying he wanted to go private for 100 credits. I thought he meant 100 credits per minute, but what he actually sent in the offer was 100 credits ($10) total for a 10 minute private. Um...? Why on earth would I ever accept that? The same guy occasionally drops in and says something like "Did you ever figure out how to turn on offers, bb?" And when I tell him that I know how but won't do it unless he wants to pay over 60 credits per minute, he says "But bb, I want to send you a nice offer, because I can't afford the rates you have posted." #notmyproblem

laurielegs
04-12-2016, 03:52 PM
I run this site on the side when I remember and have energy but man they must not have much money coming in.

I had a couple of privates in an hour or two and made $67, and now it says I'm in the top 23% of active performers. How??!!

Maybe it upped my averages because I was only online a short time?

anonymous camgirl
04-13-2016, 12:18 PM
That's what I think to!.. I feel the same way when I have been in the top 10% many times.. and let me tell you that my biggest check on there was 667 for 2 weeks.. lmao!


I run this site on the side when I remember and have energy but man they must not have much money coming in.

I had a couple of privates in an hour or two and made $67, and now it says I'm in the top 23% of active performers. How??!!

Maybe it upped my averages because I was only online a short time?

JaneBurgess
08-12-2016, 09:06 PM
Should I not have a fetish profile and a regular profile? I get so many fetish freeloaders, its insane the amount I get. I was just wondering if its better to only have the main profile.

Girly_Girl
10-05-2016, 09:10 AM
any updates on this site? Also how often do u get paid now and what is the minimum amount that u have to have for pay out?

JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 10:45 AM
Its hard to get people to pay on here. With the party chat option and the offers option these people are used to cheap shows. They get pissed you dont do free flashes because so many performers on there do.

anonymous camgirl
10-05-2016, 11:48 AM
I don't know what the point of this site is these days if ever!.. I mean now we have these viewer's choice award votes and that's pretty much all I am getting!.. the first day I got upset.. because I got lots of votes and NO tips NO pvts for like 5 hours!.. the customers on here like to utilize their fake money options to like you.. instead of actual real money.. aka votes, powerscore boosts.. anything to make you feel good without spending REAL money.. WELL!.. it doesn't make me feel good!

JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 12:45 PM
I don't know what the point of this site is these days if ever!.. I mean now we have these viewer's choice award votes and that's pretty much all I am getting!.. the first day I got upset.. because I got lots of votes and NO tips NO pvts for like 5 hours!.. the customers on here like to utilize their fake money options to like you.. instead of actual real money.. aka votes, powerscore boosts.. anything to make you feel good without spending REAL money.. WELL!.. it doesn't make me feel good!

Yes!!! I was on the other day and it was tons of viewer choice crap. I dont care, give me money damn it

anonymous camgirl
10-05-2016, 04:28 PM
I have received more viewers choice votes than actual money. let's say I got 50 viewer's choice votes for the day.. welp I didn't even make $50 for the day.. lmao.. it's like the weirdest site.. I tried to like them in 2004 and I still don't like them today .. it never works for me..


Yes!!! I was on the other day and it was tons of viewer choice crap. I dont care, give me money damn it

JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 05:11 PM
I have received more viewers choice votes than actual money. let's say I got 50 viewer's choice votes for the day.. welp I didn't even make $50 for the day.. lmao.. it's like the weirdest site.. I tried to like them in 2004 and I still don't like them today .. it never works for me..

I did alright there until the beginning of June, after that is was all downhill. I also hate they force you to allow free guests to talk to you unless your in a top tier of the site. Those guests beg just as much as the members too. Its a shame because their dashboard is awesome and the people that work there are so nice. They just need to stop allowing all the discounts and free stuff.

Girly_Girl
10-05-2016, 06:43 PM
What is the percentage that u get to keep and what is minimum amount that you have to have before they send you a check?

JaneBurgess
10-05-2016, 06:53 PM
What is the percentage that u get to keep and what is minimum amount that you have to have before they send you a check?

33 percent and $100 and you're paid every two weeks

anonymous camgirl
10-05-2016, 07:05 PM
It depends.. I am getting 35.06% because I asked them to Match what I am getting at streamate.. so they did.


What is the percentage that u get to keep and what is minimum amount that you have to have before they send you a check?

Magical_Hoohah
10-05-2016, 08:09 PM
I kind of like F4F as a splitting site. I had a bit of a rough start the first few times, but it got better after new girl status went away. It's not usually terribly profitable, but a little money comes in here and there, and sometimes a whale comes along. I haven't had many problems with beggars, but I seem to have abnormally good luck with that on all sites. The reason I like it for splitting is that the F4F wankers are chatty as fuck, so I pretty much never have to worry about a boring, silent room. Even if I only make a few bucks off the site, I think it boosts my sales on other sites because the silent lurkers on SM, etc see me being engaged, attentive, and (seemingly) popular. If you need to conserve CPU and RAM, it's probably not worth it, but if you can afford to run a site that might not net you much $, it's probably worth a shot. It's not a CPU hog like SM or Cams, so that's nice.

JaneBurgess
12-06-2016, 12:10 PM
Some VIP member on the site said they dont tip or buy shows from us performers on there because they pay a fee to be a member of the site. They feel since they pay that fee they are entitled to freebies and that they pay our salary. I told them what salary, we dont get any of that money. Morons

anonymous camgirl
12-07-2016, 05:05 PM
omg.. I tolja I don't feel f4f to be model friendly at all.. NO wonder I hardly get VIP members spending money.. they just sit in free chat and GAWK!.. .. the whole paying a fee to be a member on a cam site.. it's such a scam to me and they actually believe they deserve special priveleges from cammodels for free.. on EVERY cam site not just this one.


Some VIP member on the site said they dont tip or buy shows from us performers on there because they pay a fee to be a member of the site. They feel since they pay that fee they are entitled to freebies and that they pay our salary. I told them what salary, we dont get any of that money. Morons

JaneBurgess
12-07-2016, 07:55 PM
omg.. I tolja I don't feel f4f to be model friendly at all.. NO wonder I hardly get VIP members spending money.. they just sit in free chat and GAWK!.. .. the whole paying a fee to be a member on a cam site.. it's such a scam to me and they actually believe they deserve special priveleges from cammodels for free.. on EVERY cam site not just this one.


Its total bullshit to charge customers a fee for your cam site and not give us a dime of the funds. Either pay us a fee or raise or percentage higher.

Blovely
01-08-2017, 07:40 PM
I just realized that pvt shows are recorded on here and that mine were available for like 10 credits. Is the any way to disable VOD or is it mandatory?