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Lexilexxx
05-30-2012, 11:00 AM
The best you girls can do is stick to your guns...aka what your comfy with. Customer service is probably like a rotation of about 5 people making $10 an hr. trying to watch what's going on, they have generic answers. I've always told my girls to stick to the rules, so u can stay on working. When the "wall" deal first came out, you could do shows in Free Chat for gold tips, then they decided against it. Now that's pretty confusing to some models.... if she can do it, why can't I?

MFC and other news sites, have changed the way it all use to work. It's so much harder now. You read the rules of MFC and see they are NOT inforced. SM rules are pretty inforced, besides the ones who slip through, until later get busted out.

Good luck sista's!

SarahTime
05-30-2012, 11:19 AM
The wall is NOT geo blocking. Members have to be logged in to see you. GEO blocking is blocking out Countries, City's and States, zip codes ect.... You can also be seen by your cammodel links. Infact, when it was first started, u could do what u wanted for members logged in, until they changed it back to the same rules as "free Chat".

Studio girls don't have the same rules as at home girls, it's a fact....I ran the Vegas studio for 2 yrs.

Streaming in HD/using encoder
Top girls/earnings
The most hrs logged on
Studio girls/contracted
Porn star contracts ect.... are what get u listed on top.

I'm going off what Liz told me. And she told me it was geo blocking.... you cannot view any performer who has geo blocking on unless you are a logged in member (or the various loopholes). So call it a "wall" or call it geo blocking.... according to Liz it is the same thing.

I'd like to know what rules do not apply to "studio girls"....?

Are you a cam girl yourself, Lexilexxx? Just curious.

Marina Starr
05-30-2012, 11:26 AM
This! I took geo-block off so now I could see my placement in a different window!


I'm going off what Liz told me. And she told me it was geo blocking.... you cannot view any performer who has geo blocking on unless you are a logged in member (or the various loopholes). So call it a "wall" or call it geo blocking.... according to Liz it is the same thing.

I'd like to know what rules do not apply to "studio girls"....?

Are you a cam girl yourself, Lexilexxx? Just curious.

trinabanks
05-30-2012, 12:09 PM
when i was behind the wall, before gold show was created, i would do shows for a certain amount of gold....NEVER FOR FREE! my guys would get to 600-800 gold goals to see everything in free but not FOR free!

trinabanks
05-30-2012, 12:11 PM
google **********...she owned my studio and also has been a cam girl for 13 years.....her studio girls (me included) have different rules and also different pay and are guarenteed front page listing.


Edited out name... if you want to know who, PM each other please! (kaiarose)

ukmissy
05-30-2012, 12:50 PM
People seem to have a hard time grasping things unless they pertain to them directly - No idea why ! Nice to see the nasty posts have gone though !

TracyBlade
05-30-2012, 04:47 PM
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Fridays
05-30-2012, 07:26 PM
.her studio girls (me included) have different rules and also different pay and are guarenteed front page listing.

can u see your earnings?
are u getting LESS than 30 % of what the guys spend.. or more?
really curious....

LAChloe
05-30-2012, 07:42 PM
can u see your earnings?
are u getting LESS than 30 % of what the guys spend.. or more?
really curious....

i think she said she is not affiliated with the studio anymore bc she is working from home. i could be wrong though.

TracyBlade
05-30-2012, 07:42 PM
can u see your earnings?
are u getting LESS than 30 % of what the guys spend.. or more?
really curious....
I am curious as well Fridays....

Lexilexxx
05-30-2012, 10:09 PM
She's getting 30% out of 100%.

100$ spent, she get's 30$. SM get's 70$.

She works from home, under a studio contract. I'm not longer running the studio, since last December.

Lexilexxx
05-30-2012, 10:22 PM
Studio girls get first page listing for one rule, unless your perform lower then standards. The owner of streamate, owns the studio too. Trust me when I tell you that not all model's have the same rules. There's usually advantages for studio's, pornstars, contracted girls/top models. Have a look around, why do you see 4 Star girls listed at the top of first page?

When "gold" shows came out....did everyone have it? NO....Who got it first? Studio girls and TOP models.

I wouldn't make a fuss on what other model's are doing, the more you focus on your own work...the more money you make = the top listing's.

Sarah, people lie....they give generic answers. It's a fact...ESP. when your talking traffic...LOL! I've been camming 13 yrs and still do :-)

Cam_Model_Jess
05-31-2012, 07:23 AM
Studio girls get first page listing for one rule, unless your perform lower then standards. The owner of streamate, owns the studio too. Trust me when I tell you that not all model's have the same rules. There's usually advantages for studio's, pornstars, contracted girls/top models. Have a look around, why do you see 4 Star girls listed at the top of first page?

When "gold" shows came out....did everyone have it? NO....Who got it first? Studio girls and TOP models.

I wouldn't make a fuss on what other model's are doing, the more you focus on your own work...the more money you make = the top listing's.

Sarah, people lie....they give generic answers. It's a fact...ESP. when your talking traffic...LOL! I've been camming 13 yrs and still do :-)

We thought you were actually going to tell us about the different rules the studio girls/ pornstars have.

This is plain and simple favoritism and a case of looking the other way/ not caring. We're all fully aware that SM does that. It's why studio girls can give it all away in free chat and not be banned., and why "top models" on the site can do pretty much anything, including re-directing traffic, and not get suspended. We get it.

Personally, I prefer to be on the front page having earned it by hard work, make that extra 5%, and not NEED the favoritism b/c I'm making enough to keep my spot and not need to give it away for free/a few dollars. I recognize that SM is not MFC and, despite gold shows, the tip structure only works for a minority of performers. If you can make bank on tips, good for you. But (in MY experience) it DOES encourage freeloaders and beggars, and it DOES make the other performers' online experience more difficult when models agree to dildo their asshole for ten minutes for the thirty people in free chat because someone tipped $5 (just an example).

This doesn't mean that we all rail against it. Many of us accept it as the way things are; we know it's part of the deal for now. But... we don't have to like it. And those who do make our lives more difficult should not be so indignant when we're not all about jumping to their aid. Justifying actions by saying the site looks the other way for certain girls does not change that.

Edit to add: MOST of us do mind our own. However, there are numerous threads regarding "free chat" activities that are supposedly against the site's rules. Models who are known for these activities will meet some criticism by some performers. There should be no surprises here.

SarahTime
05-31-2012, 10:13 AM
I run a studio of girls who are "up to standard" why was I not told these alternate rules? Could it quite possibly be because there are none and this is all speculation?

Please enlighten me on what these alternative rules actually ARE. Who gave you these alternate rules? Is there some special list or have you assumed what the rules are to be based off what you have gotten away with..?

I'm going to take the word of people directly involved with Streamate before I take the word of a studio owner claiming her girls have guaranteed front page access and alternate rules.

If studios had guaranteed front page access that would make the front page have hundreds if not thousands of girls on it at any given time. These are clearly assumptions. I don't doubt that well known porn stars have been able to negotiate better deals but to say "studio girls" get all these extras just appears to be a severe misconception.

SarahTime
05-31-2012, 10:18 AM
The owner of streamate, owns the studio too.

What do you mean by this?

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 11:15 AM
she means shawn owns that studio and he also OWNS streamate........we have direct contact with him and have met him blah blah blah....thats why we are guarenteed front page....we are HIS girls!

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 11:16 AM
https://twitter.com/#!/TheSinStudio go check out our studio!





well i used to be there...home now :)

Lexilexxx
05-31-2012, 11:30 AM
I run a studio of girls who are "up to standard" why was I not told these alternate rules? Could it quite possibly be because there are none and this is all speculation?

Please enlighten me on what these alternative rules actually ARE. Who gave you these alternate rules? Is there some special list or have you assumed what the rules are to be based off what you have gotten away with..?

I'm going to take the word of people directly involved with Streamate before I take the word of a studio owner claiming her girls have guaranteed front page access and alternate rules.

If studios had guaranteed front page access that would make the front page have hundreds if not thousands of girls on it at any given time. These are clearly assumptions. I don't doubt that well known porn stars have been able to negotiate better deals but to say "studio girls" get all these extras just appears to be a severe misconception.


1) I don't own the studio.
2) 2 million $ studio, not a condo with 4 or 5 girls.
3) I told who owned it. What do you not get?
4) NOT all studio's get the same rules/NOT all models have the same rules. I have told you that several times......what are u not getting?
5) Call Liz. I highly doubt you will get the truth.

By no means will you see a contract, from the LV studio...I'm sure you have your own.

let's get this story straight...I'm no longer involved with the studio since LAST december.

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 11:36 AM
Oh shit, Trina is here?

Hey gurl!!

hey there! how are ya?

temptingmodel
05-31-2012, 11:36 AM
What do you mean by this?
Correct me if I may be wrong but I am THINKING Streamate took it back over and the models are still under "studio" that she no longer runs.

What does sm do with girls when the studio is gone?

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 11:39 AM
Correct me if I may be wrong but I am THINKING Streamate took it back over and the models are still under "studio" that she no longer runs.

What does sm do with girls when the studio is gone?


we will work from home or maybbe move to another studio here in vegas, there are like 3 of them! ummmmm im not sure, but that studio wont last another year....they cant seem to keep enough girls working to fill the 72 rooms and its not making money....sad cus its a beautiful 2 million dollar studio :(

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 11:40 AM
Correct me if I may be wrong but I am THINKING Streamate took it back over and the models are still under "studio" that she no longer runs.

What does sm do with girls when the studio is gone?

streamate didnt take it over, a top model is running it now along side liz.

SarahTime
05-31-2012, 12:46 PM
1) I don't own the studio.
2) 2 million $ studio, not a condo with 4 or 5 girls.
3) I told who owned it. What do you not get?
4) NOT all studio's get the same rules/NOT all models have the same rules. I have told you that several times......what are u not getting?
5) Call Liz. I highly doubt you will get the truth.

By no means will you see a contract, from the LV studio...I'm sure you have your own.

let's get this story straight...I'm no longer involved with the studio since LAST december.

The only thing I am "not getting" is why you are being so rude? I'm also "not getting" why you are saying Liz would "lie" to me about something. What purpose would she have to do that?

Since you were involved with the studio, I'll ask again... What specifically were the rules of the studio that were different than the general rules? It's a simple question.

I'm sure you can answer this time in a way that isn't an attempt to belittle me by "not getting" it.

kaiarose
05-31-2012, 12:53 PM
Seriously, what's with the snarkiness in this thread? I'm keeping an eye on all the replies and I will be pointing for anymore drama.. just a heads up.

Cam_Model_Jess
05-31-2012, 01:10 PM
she means shawn owns that studio and he also OWNS streamate........we have direct contact with him and have met him blah blah blah....thats why we are guarenteed front page....we are HIS girls!

Then can HE resolve your streaming issues? I'm not being snarky here; I'm seriously curious. I think a lot of us are. If you are in direct contact with the owner of the site, then why are you asking some random camgirls what to do?

I'm just baffled I guess.

SarahTime
05-31-2012, 01:18 PM
^^good point/question.

Im staying out of this from here on out. Regardless of "different rules" which can't even be elborated on, I think it's safe to say dildoing yourself to oblivion in free chat is a no no for everyone regardless of who you are.

Not only that, it's just not a smart idea to give it all away for "free" to people who are not contributing and have absolutely no intention of ever contributing - why should they you are giving it to them regardless.

If you have to be giving it all away in free chat just in order to "bank" then you're doing something wrong to begin with. Plenty of us "bank" without selling out like that. Reminds me of the girls who get topless half way through a gold show count down, or are topless the entire time. That's apparently the only way they can actually get anyone to do anything. It just baffles me.

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 01:18 PM
Then can HE resolve your streaming issues? I'm not being snarky here; I'm seriously curious. I think a lot of us are. If you are in direct contact with the owner of the site, then why are you asking some random camgirls what to do?

I'm just baffled I guess.

i have emailed him and am waiting for a response...you need to understand streamate is not shawns only business, he is into real estate and owns a ton of properties. he is a very busy man. i thought this site was for cam models to help each other out, not bash each other and belittle each other. i thought maybe if i asked here, that MAYBE someone would have some insight to this issue. my encoder needed to be updated, which a very nice someone pointed out on another thread. we get bashed enough from rude guys, i NEVER expected to be bashed here. streamate is shawns littlest venture....he has bigger fish to fry then to worry about us all the time....but, yes i emailed him directly and am waiting for a reply. thanks

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 01:19 PM
^^good point/question.

Im staying out of this from here on out. Regardless of "different rules" which can't even be elborated on, I think it's safe to say dildoing yourself to oblivion in free chat is a no no for everyone regardless of who you are.

i had permission straight from shawn himself...."do whatever you want as long as its making money" still have that email as well.


and there are STILL models doing it today...actually 3 friends of mine are STILL playing gold games and making bank off of it. i am no longer behind the wall. so u can see me anytime you want without being logged on.

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 01:34 PM
We thought you were actually going to tell us about the different rules the studio girls/ pornstars have.

This is plain and simple favoritism and a case of looking the other way/ not caring. We're all fully aware that SM does that. It's why studio girls can give it all away in free chat and not be banned., and why "top models" on the site can do pretty much anything, including re-directing traffic, and not get suspended. We get it.

Personally, I prefer to be on the front page having earned it by hard work, make that extra 5%, and not NEED the favoritism b/c I'm making enough to keep my spot and not need to give it away for free/a few dollars. I recognize that SM is not MFC and, despite gold shows, the tip structure only works for a minority of performers. If you can make bank on tips, good for you. But (in MY experience) it DOES encourage freeloaders and beggars, and it DOES make the other performers' online experience more difficult when models agree to dildo their asshole for ten minutes for the thirty people in free chat because someone tipped $5 (just an example).

This doesn't mean that we all rail against it. Many of us accept it as the way things are; we know it's part of the deal for now. But... we don't have to like it. And those who do make our lives more difficult should not be so indignant when we're not all about jumping to their aid. Justifying actions by saying the site looks the other way for certain girls does not change that.

Edit to add: MOST of us do mind our own. However, there are numerous threads regarding "free chat" activities that are supposedly against the site's rules. Models who are known for these activities will meet some criticism by some performers. There should be no surprises here.



yes it does encourage freeloaders...hence why im not doing it anymore. i did make good ass money when i was behind the wall but now i found a new way of making bank...so i do that instead.

Marina Starr
05-31-2012, 02:25 PM
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DiamondCupcakes
05-31-2012, 02:35 PM
i had permission straight from shawn himself...."do whatever you want as long as its making money" still have that email as well.


and there are STILL models doing it today...actually 3 friends of mine are STILL playing gold games and making bank off of it. i am no longer behind the wall. so u can see me anytime you want without being logged on.
I want an email that says that =( I'm not being snarky I really wish I had the green light from him. The things I could/would do....

But just to clarify because I may have misread. Are you saying Shawn gave you the green light himself to dildo yourself in freechat so long as your bringing in the money?

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 02:44 PM
I want an email that says that =( I'm not being snarky I really wish I had the green light from him. The things I could/would do....

But just to clarify because I may have misread. Are you saying Shawn gave you the green light himself to dildo yourself in freechat so long as your bringing in the money?

yes i am

LAChloe
05-31-2012, 02:48 PM
This whole Shawn thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why would Shawn "own" a studio to make an extra 5% (which I know equals out to 15%)? I mean he owns STREAMATE! He is BANKING off that. I can't even begin to imagine all the DRAMA that goes with owning a physical studio. I really don't think he would want to deal with the hassle when it would be soooooo much easier to just have everyone working at home or at other studios and not have to deal with the bullshit.

I don't know. I don't buy any of it really.

LadyCoco
05-31-2012, 02:55 PM
Blech. That's why you don't let a guy run a studio.

HaydenBlue
05-31-2012, 02:56 PM
If Shawn is allowing that to go on then why does he still have rules in place?

What if I want to have Skype raffles or get completely shit-faced and stick my logitech up my cunt for 3 gold?

This favoritism thing is bullshit.

temptingmodel
05-31-2012, 03:00 PM
I want an email that says that =( I'm not being snarky I really wish I had the green light from him. The things I could/would do....

But just to clarify because I may have misread. Are you saying Shawn gave you the green light himself to dildo yourself in freechat so long as your bringing in the money?
I call a mass email be sent with a request to the OWNER OF STREAMATE and MAYBE a link to this THREAD so he will not think we have lost our already insane minds wondering why so many models want the green light.

trinabanks
05-31-2012, 03:11 PM
This whole Shawn thing doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Why would Shawn "own" a studio to make an extra 5% (which I know equals out to 15%)? I mean he owns STREAMATE! He is BANKING off that. I can't even begin to imagine all the DRAMA that goes with owning a physical studio. I really don't think he would want to deal with the hassle when it would be soooooo much easier to just have everyone working at home or at other studios and not have to deal with the bullshit.

I don't know. I don't buy any of it really.


believe what you want. i have to log on and make money. i dont have time to sit here arguing losing money. have a fabulous day! :)

kaiarose
05-31-2012, 03:13 PM
I think this thread has run it's course...