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Pearl_Sugar
09-20-2012, 05:48 PM
A guy webcam model came into my room the other day. The conversation led a certain direction where I said that cheap whores are the reason the adult industry has a bad name/is failing, and he ended up saying that he charged $0.99/1.99. I'm like, you seriously need to raise your rates, you're short changing yourself. The person (who I now know is a guy) replies "I'm in private all night because I refuse to talk to people unless they take me private." While I can understand the whole don't converse in free chat thing, this guy was a COMPLETE asshole about it. I personally would never spend a $1 a minute just to sit in private with someone talking. I don't know how he makes a living out of it.

HaydenBlue
09-20-2012, 05:59 PM
A guy webcam model came into my room the other day. The conversation led a certain direction where I said that cheap whores are the reason the adult industry has a bad name/is failing, and he ended up saying that he charged $0.99/1.99. I'm like, you seriously need to raise your rates, you're short changing yourself. The person (who I now know is a guy) replies "I'm in private all night because I refuse to talk to people unless they take me private." While I can understand the whole don't converse in free chat thing, this guy was a COMPLETE asshole about it. I personally would never spend a $1 a minute just to sit in private with someone talking. I don't know how he makes a living out of it.

Yeah you could do away with the 'cheap whores' bit. No need to degrade people. Maybe you came off rude to him so he responded shortly to someone telling him what to do?

And this has been stressed: If it works for him - GOOD. If you want to raise your rates and it makes you more money - GOOD.

loveshooks
09-20-2012, 06:11 PM
I probaby spend about 60% of my time on cam on any given day having conversations (being paid, I don't work free chat sites). There is a huge market for that, as many chicas here know well

I personally think $1 per min is too low for what my time is worth, but judging people for doing what works for them, if it works for them, is pointless

+1 Hayden on your comments to that. To the vanilla world we're all the same no matter what we charge, so slagging each other doesn't serve any of our interests.

Pearl_Sugar
09-20-2012, 09:35 PM
I didn't mean to come off as rude, it's just a strange concept to me running 0.99 a minute privates when it's constantly stressed to have higher rates. :p

funkybrewster
09-20-2012, 09:46 PM
You know what I think is rude? Him even coming into your room, if he's not going to take you private. I mean, what's the point?!

MissSeraphim
09-20-2012, 11:54 PM
As crazy as it sounds, getting a vanilla job was the best thing I did.
Now, I know at very least my bills are paid. Camming is now my "filler" income..and I've noticed myself pricing everything way higher. BECAUSE when it was all my income I'd get desperate because I need the money. I figured, like everyone who has ever gone shopping ever, lower prices=more buys. But in camming it isn't like that. It's not retail.
I went from selling a 10 minute solo play video for $30 up to $50. My general system is $5/min for videos with nudity or very fetished, if it ends up being over 20 minutes I then do the rest by $2 a min. And I've been selling videos like crazy!
Also, having a part time job on the side got me out of the house more, gave me more self worth (I've been working there 2 and a half months and already being promoted!), and best yet made camming/clip selling entertainment not just the job. I was a theater geek all through middle and high school if there is one thing I learned it is that you have to be entertain to entertain.
I work a site when I'm editing/uploading videos that starts at $1 a min for group/topless (can be changed but I leave it since most guys just want to chat to get to know me since I am new) and I'm changing my private rate from $3 a min to $4 without batting an eyelash.
I am quite content.
^_^

volatileghost
09-25-2012, 01:16 PM
Raised my prices from 4.49/4.99 to 5.99/6.99 on SM... But... Comcast shut off my internet, because I didn't pay the bill. So I can't test it out until my boyfriend gets paid friday. BOO!! I wanted to see what would happen, lol. If it doesn't go completely awful, it'll continue to creep up and up and up...

justanothercamgirl
09-26-2012, 05:09 PM
I raised my rates today to 9.99/9.99 and was in back to back privates all day.

I couldn't believe it! I am usually waiting forever for a private at the lower rate.

MissAdriana
09-26-2012, 05:47 PM
I raised today on SM to 4.99/5.99...haven't lost any regulars yet! How do you ladies decide when to raise? Whenever you feel like it? I'm thinking to up them every time I make my monthly goal :D Also I LOVE the idea of making priv > excl

HaydenBlue
09-26-2012, 06:17 PM
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CurvyWinona
09-26-2012, 06:21 PM
I took yal advice, too.

03:49:14 Exclusive $8.99/min 23m 47s $74.83
08:18:19 Exclusive $8.99/min 21m 56s $68.78

Both from same dude. He couldn't sleep after the show and came back for another one. hahah.
After last night, I decided to make my exclusive to 9.99.. waiting for a reply from SM.

AliceFun
09-26-2012, 10:58 PM
I am curious, what kind of shows u ladies offer for these pricey fees per min?

CurvyWinona
09-26-2012, 11:35 PM
alice, same shows. i did not fancy up my shows at all. :)

CurvyWinona
09-27-2012, 01:15 AM
In my party chat, I set up a topic that includes a flash for a gold. I did that to weed out the freeloaders and it works! I was so tired of guys asking me to flash and I would just say gold and they leave. haha. But some guys would throw $3 or $5 for a flash.

Do you girls do something like that?

CherryBomb69
09-27-2012, 02:50 AM
How much gold do you charge for a flash, CurvyWinona? I thought about doing that but wasn't sure how much to charge.. Don't we only keep 30% of the Gold?

BlasianBytch
09-27-2012, 07:58 AM
Hmm, I think I I'm going to try this. I think I'm on enough podcasts and such to ask for a higher per min scale. If guys complain that I'm too fat or not nude...oh well.

TheBrownFox
09-27-2012, 10:08 PM
How much gold do you charge for a flash, CurvyWinona? I thought about doing that but wasn't sure how much to charge.. Don't we only keep 30% of the Gold?


Some girls charge $5 GOLD for a flash...some charge $10...some don't flash in free chat, etc.

If it was me, I'd charge at least $5 GOLD for a flash.

On SM you're not supposed to show below the waist nudity in free chat. For some reason, I've seen SM models naked and covering their pussy with their hand, but then when they turn around they show their bare ass completely. Bare ass with no panties on still qualifies as below the waist nudity...

I've even seen an Ebony model do naked ass claps in free chat (no panties on) and then saying "Tip me, guys" SEVERAL times, and getting mad at the guys in her room who are content with the free naked ass clap show they're getting...lol.

volatileghost
09-27-2012, 10:10 PM
I saw a female tonight on SM with 14.99 as her private rate!! You go girl (whoever you are!!!!) I asked her about it, all she said was "those are my prices"! Work it! We ALL deserve $14.99 a minute!!!

SarahTime
09-28-2012, 06:15 AM
A guy webcam model came into my room the other day. The conversation led a certain direction where I said that cheap whores are the reason the adult industry has a bad name/is failing, and he ended up saying that he charged $0.99/1.99. I'm like, you seriously need to raise your rates, you're short changing yourself. The person (who I now know is a guy) replies "I'm in private all night because I refuse to talk to people unless they take me private." While I can understand the whole don't converse in free chat thing, this guy was a COMPLETE asshole about it. I personally would never spend a $1 a minute just to sit in private with someone talking. I don't know how he makes a living out of it.

What about 7.99/min to sit in pvt with someone talking? Because I have quite a few regulars who do just that. And I know quite a few non nude girls who make their living this way.

Just because you wouldn't do it, doesn't make it "bad" for anyone else to do it. Maybe this guy prefers to be busy? Not to mention, it's A LOT harder for guys to make money on cam, they can't really charge the rates that female webcam performers can.

limecoconut
09-28-2012, 09:05 AM
I would love to raise my rates again but I don't think guys would go for it. I only work 1 per min site (AW) which traffic has not been great there recently so I fear raising my rates... and the rest of my sites/indy stuff are pre-pay blocks of time. When I tell them $4/min half of them stop talking to me any way. I don't understand why it's harder to get dudes to pay more off of a per min site than thru skype etc. Especially when girls on SM and MFC are charging more than that on average. Someone told me the regular for girls he gets skype shows from off MFC is starting to average upwards of $10/min. Any of you ladies wanna speak out and confirm this?

Bottom line is I put on badass shows and would love to keep increasing my price as time goes by until I'm making $10/min every day lol.

Maybe I'd have a better chance working MFC for a while just to pull in a bigger fan base and then it'll happen more smoothly? I'm just sooo not a free cam girl, it's never been my style... Hrm..

justanothercamgirl
09-28-2012, 01:41 PM
I am up to $9.99/$14.99

I am pushing this fuckers as far as it goes. ;)

justanothercamgirl
09-28-2012, 01:45 PM
I am curious, what kind of shows u ladies offer for these pricey fees per min?

I do the exact same show I've always done, but slower. I am not offering anything that I wasn't offering before at $5.99/minute.

Jessica1001
09-28-2012, 02:02 PM
I am curious, what kind of shows u ladies offer for these pricey fees per min?

Yes, now that I charge 'pricey', I HAVE in fact changed my shows. I now wear more expensive outfits in them. ;-)

volatileghost
09-28-2012, 02:03 PM
Haha Jessica, good answer.

HighHeelHottie
09-28-2012, 02:20 PM
I'm curious if lower rates have worked for others? When I first started out camming, years ago, I was always busy and I had lower rates. I wonder if I should lower mine some...

Classy_Katy
09-28-2012, 02:33 PM
I'm on AW and lower group price can definitely work.

volatileghost
09-28-2012, 02:34 PM
I think the point of the thread was to overall try to get as many girls to raise their prices so that it won't be "oh my god bb y u so expensive??" but it'll just be the NORM that we're worth that much and they'll just start accepting it so that overall, EVERYONE makes more money. That's just my two cents but like it's been stated before, it's a choice you have to make for yourself! I raised my rates to 5.99/6.99 but I don't have anything to report back yet, my encoder is still broken, lol.

aven
10-04-2012, 11:27 AM
@ 6.99 and I will have show fairly regularly.

But when I move the to 7.99 the shows like stop. They even stop at the 7.49

guy will make comments about my price all day long at $7min but nothing at 6.99 they just take me

I am wondering if 7 buck is too high for the average guy and to low of the rich guy.

sexysusie
10-04-2012, 12:09 PM
It IS high for them, but to make a decent cut that's what we have to do. That's why SM is so shitty and ideally girls would refuse to work there until the % is raised. It's not fair on the guys and it's not fair on the girls. 50% would be far more reasonable and allow flexibility in pricing.

volatileghost
10-04-2012, 12:16 PM
^ I agree, Susie... I really wish SM paid a better percentage, I think there would be more money to be had overall for SM cuz more guys would spend their money. If I look at something and see it's only 3.99 vs.6.99, I'll buy the cheaper one, but then I'll also go buy something else, because I feel as though I haven't spent AS much money, and ideally probably spend even MORE that way, yanno?

TheBrownFox
10-04-2012, 01:56 PM
MFC daily pay being no more gave me the extra boost to get myself active again on SM. I logged into my model account earlier and added some new pictures. I realized that the max they have my premium and exclusive rate at is $4.99, and I'm gonna want those rates to be higher. I messaged SM about allowing me to raise my rates, but they'll probably wait 'til I start broadcasting again to approve my request, right?

I want to encourage more exclusives than premiums, so I wanna make my premium rate way higher. I prefer the one-on-one exclusive shows.

twistedprincess
10-04-2012, 01:59 PM
So I think once they get the request they'll push it through since it sounds like you already had your paperwork done. If they take more than 24-28 hours to bump it up, you should e-mail Vanessa. :)


MFC daily pay being no more gave me the extra boost to get myself active again on SM. I logged into my model account earlier and added some new pictures. I realized that the max they have my premium and exclusive rate at is $4.99, and I'm gonna want those rates to be higher. I messaged SM about allowing me to raise my rates, but they'll probably wait 'til I start broadcasting again to approve my request, right?

I want to encourage more exclusives than premiums, so I wanna make my premium rate way higher. I prefer the one-on-one exclusive shows.

Dirty Peaches
10-04-2012, 02:12 PM
I think the point of the thread was to overall try to get as many girls to raise their prices so that it won't be "oh my god bb y u so expensive??" but it'll just be the NORM that we're worth that much and they'll just start accepting it so that overall, EVERYONE makes more money. That's just my two cents but like it's been stated before, it's a choice you have to make for yourself! I raised my rates to 5.99/6.99 but I don't have anything to report back yet, my encoder is still broken, lol.

I'd be careful when suggesting this. It's called price fixing and is illegal.

TheBrownFox
10-04-2012, 02:21 PM
They approved my rate increase above $4.99 before I started camming, but only after all the paperwork was approved. So I think once they get the request they'll push it through since it sounds like you already had your paperwork done. If they take more than 24-28 hours to bump it up, you should e-mail Vanessa. :)


Yeah, I've cammed on SM before. It's just that I took a long hiatus from the site cuz it was pissing me off, but now I think I can get back on there with a better game plan. :) I emailed them about 2 hours ago, so I'm gonna check to see if they've updated it yet.

Also, I'm gonna check to see if I have Vanessa's e-mail automatically stored in my Yahoo! Mail contacts. I'm assuming her e-mail is separate from SM model support, and the BEST person to reach? Thanks. :)


EDIT: Nope, the max rates are still at $4.99/$4.99 for me, so they haven't gotten to it yet. I don't know Vanessa's e-mail, so I'm gonna try the search function on here to find it...so I'm not reading through 20 pages of this thread to get it...lol.

twistedprincess
10-04-2012, 02:45 PM
Yeah, I've cammed on SM before. It's just that I took a long hiatus from the site cuz it was pissing me off, but now I think I can get back on there with a better game plan. :) I emailed them about 2 hours ago, so I'm gonna check to see if they've updated it yet.

Also, I'm gonna check to see if I have Vanessa's e-mail automatically stored in my Yahoo! Mail contacts. I'm assuming her e-mail is separate from SM model support, and the BEST person to reach? Thanks. :)
[email protected]
that is Vanessa's e-mail She has a thread aroung here somewhere that she posted that in, but I can never find it when I need it lol


http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/member.php?99966-awmvanessa is her profile on here

TheBrownFox
10-04-2012, 02:57 PM
[email protected]
that is Vanessa's e-mail She has a thread aroung here somewhere that she posted that in, but I can never find it when I need it lol


http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/member.php?99966-awmvanessa is her profile on here



Perfect! Thanks!

TheBrownFox
10-04-2012, 03:52 PM
YES! They changed it to $5.99: exclusive and $9.99: premium for me. :)

So whenever you decide to raise your rate, you have to e-mail them, huh? You can't just use the drag-down menu and have higher options available? I can live with that. I'll just see how these rates work for me for now.

twistedprincess
10-04-2012, 04:06 PM
Yep, anything over the standard $4.99 is e-mail needed, but I would so much rather e-mail than charge $4.99 lol. Glad they got yours changed so quick. :) Let us know how it goes!


YES! They changed it to $5.99: exclusive and $9.99: premium for me. :)

So whenever you decide to raise your rate, you have to e-mail them, huh? You can't just use the drag-down menu and have higher options available? I can live with that. I'll just see how these rates work for me for now.

AliceFun
10-05-2012, 10:47 AM
I do believe some people here really love to show off and they not charging as high as they say. Now i can go on with a conspiracy theory that some people will try to make others charge too high so they wont make money and members can go spend in their rooms actually. I can tell that the maximum i can charge and have traffic is 3.99 for premium and 4.99 exclusive on SM, if i go higher than that i wont make money anymore, i was trying around all prices/ combinations, i felt dissapointed and upset for not being able to make better money at higher prices "like all the others" around here. I am an average looking woman, classy and sexy but not a porn star type.
Then i was watching the freechat of a top performer i admire a lot and i saw how members were bitching about her high prices, telling ARE U FUCKING MAD, U KIDDING, ARE U SERIOUS? She was charging over $10/min for premium on SM and everybody was pissed.
And yes, in one hand people will say here "i do charge this and that" but sell themselves very short in Gold shows, like a dollar per 20 mins show or so?! Come on, this doesent make sense. Or maybe i dont see it, idk

twistedprincess
10-05-2012, 10:51 AM
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justanothercamgirl
10-05-2012, 10:53 AM
I have read through this thread, and it makes no sense to me. We are encouraged to raise prices, but then I see many of the same girls who advocate these price raises, on cam doing gold shows for $2, $5, $10. I think it is fantastic that girls charge high prices and be successful. But what good are you doing when you turn around and offer a full length gold show for pennies? I have never understood this concept. Imagine a retailer who has an amazing product. He displays for sell on a shelf for $200.00. Then he goes to the next shelf, and displays the same product for $5.00. It doesn't make sense. If higher prices work so well, then why is there a need to do gold shows to supplement?

I am confused by your confusion. Pretty much every retailer there is has sales, why would doing GOLD shows at a cheaper rate be a bad thing if your regular per min rate is high? It figure I am pricing myself on a sliding scale so I can get money from EVERY custie. ;)

Fridays
10-05-2012, 10:55 AM
I have read through this thread, and it makes no sense to me. We are encouraged to raise prices, but then I see many of the same girls who advocate these price raises, on cam doing gold shows for $2, $5, $10. I think it is fantastic that girls charge high prices and be successful. But what good are you doing when you turn around and offer a full length gold show for pennies? I have never understood this concept. Imagine a retailer who has an amazing product. He displays for sell on a shelf for $200.00. Then he goes to the next shelf, and displays the same product for $5.00. It doesn't make sense. If higher prices work so well, then why is there a need to do gold shows to supplement?

does it make sense that any super high celebrity actor is paid millions per movie..
and we only pay $2.99 to see the movie 1 month later?

same thing...........

justanothercamgirl
10-05-2012, 10:59 AM
I do believe some people here really love to show off and they not charging as high as they say. Now i can go on with a conspiracy theory that some people will try to make others charge too high so they wont make money and members can go spend in their rooms actually. I can tell that the maximum i can charge and have traffic is 3.99 for premium and 4.99 exclusive on SM, if i go higher than that i wont make money anymore, i was trying around all prices/ combinations, i felt dissapointed and upset for not being able to make better money at higher prices "like all the others" around here. I am an average looking woman, classy and sexy but not a porn star type.
Then i was watching the freechat of a top performer i admire a lot and i saw how members were bitching about her high prices, telling ARE U FUCKING MAD, U KIDDING, ARE U SERIOUS? She was charging over $10/min for premium on SM and everybody was pissed.
And yes, in one hand people will say here "i do charge this and that" but sell themselves very short in Gold shows, like a dollar per 20 mins show or so?! Come on, this doesent make sense. Or maybe i dont see it, idk

I can't speak for any other girl on SW, but if you want to send me a PM I will tell you exactly who I am on SM and you can check for youself that my prices are what I say they are.

Fridays
10-05-2012, 11:02 AM
Then i was watching the freechat of a top performer i admire a lot and i saw how members were bitching about her high prices, telling ARE U FUCKING MAD, U KIDDING, ARE U SERIOUS? She was charging over $10/min for premium on SM and everybody was pissed.
And yes, in one hand people will say here "i do charge this and that" but sell themselves very short in Gold shows, like a dollar per 20 mins show or so?! Come on, this doesent make sense. Or maybe i dont see it, idk

was this me? LOL
they bitch at me all the time...
ALL the time.. bhahah!!!:D
and I love every minute of it :)
and they still pay it.. not all of them...but who cares??
if u do the actual real math on what u get versus what you spend in taxes, electric, food, the % the sites take, you cloths, makeup, EVERYTHING that you need to cam properly and what it takes to make u you feel good about yourself in THIS type of job, nothing seems enough anymore. NOt for me.
Im selling kisses for $50 :D... they tip $5 I tell them,, u need to send $45 more!! LOOL
I seriously believe the better you feel about yourself,the more U feel like charging..
Im a Queen. Are you not?


and the cheap gold shows. thats just a marketing gimmick. dont let it fool you.....

AliceFun
10-05-2012, 11:32 AM
Doesent really matter how u feel about urself if others wont value u accordingly, not everybody have the same personality, mind set, resources, culture, confidence and all it takes to be successful in this industry, same like in any other work line some are more successful than others, if we all could be top smart, beautiful, fit, confident and such humanity wont be what it is now. We are different so everyone will succeed different.
I dont know who you are Fridays (i wish i knew), i dont have to check people rooms (everybody could say i am this & that performer but give fake info), i just wanted to show another point of view as people here tend to be set on a specific way of thinking and ignore the rest of the world.
Not everything apply to everybody in my eyes. Have peace.

laurielegs
10-05-2012, 11:45 AM
But why offer a discount if your product is selling in high volume at retail price like it should be? Businesses typically only mark prices down on products that aren't selling well. They liquidate those products in order to avoid a loss. I have never seen a product at retail price, then the same exact product at a clearance price, sitting side by side in a store. It still doesn't make sense.

Gold shows with tons of guys are not the same product at all as personal interaction in a one on one show.

Something I have noticed also is that gold shows can make guys buy privates right after because they want my full attention badly!

Jessica1001
10-05-2012, 11:56 AM
This. ^^^

If a gold show is booking at room at the Waldorf, exclusive is reserving the whole damn hotel for yourself for an entire weekend. :-)

Same product? Yes? Maybe? Not at all?

HollyStJohn
10-05-2012, 12:37 PM
But why offer a discount if your product is selling in high volume at retail price like it should be? Businesses typically only mark prices down on products that aren't selling well. They liquidate those products in order to avoid a loss. I have never seen a product at retail price, then the same exact product at a clearance price, sitting side by side in a store. It still doesn't make sense.

Have you ever heard of Groupon? Gold Shows are alot like that to me. Yes, you have a high-priced retail item that you can let customers buy at face value, but say it isn't selling as well as you'd like or you just need to pull in more customer interest... that's when you have the Gold Shows! You're pulling in a large volume of customers who might not have spent a dime otherwise and reaching a discernible goal instead of -hoping- these guys stay in private long enough to meet the goal in your head.

I personally don't do Gold Shows anymore, they're a pain in the ass for me, but I've seen many performers who know how to work the crowd and reach their goal in no time! For those girls, utilizing the Gold Show option is amazingly lucrative!

justanothercamgirl
10-05-2012, 02:04 PM
i dont have to check people rooms (everybody could say i am this & that performer but give fake info)

That has a very easy fix. You just have a secret 'password' and when you come into the room and say it to the performer they would message you and tell you that they know you from SW. Kind of the way they do it for the verified camgirl group.

justanothercamgirl
10-05-2012, 02:07 PM
But why offer a discount if your product is selling in high volume at retail price like it should be? Businesses typically only mark prices down on products that aren't selling well. They liquidate those products in order to avoid a loss. I have never seen a product at retail price, then the same exact product at a clearance price, sitting side by side in a store. It still doesn't make sense.

Businesses only mark down products that aren't selling well? They why do they put out coupons all the time for top-brand products. I mean, I doubt McDonald's is going out of business and every couple of months I get a coupon books from them.

Edited to add: I have even seen coupons for a product right in front of the product that is selling at the store which pretty much is the example that you say never happens.