View Full Version : Raise Your Rates - Challenge!
MistressX
02-27-2016, 12:37 AM
There is so little traffic on streamate right now and even less paying traffic I cant imagin raising my rates again. I raised them last fall and it was all great up until around thanksgiving and then it tanked. Did not recover from the holidays... those were slow, then january was slow and I really thought february would be different and its been awful. :(
sexysusie
02-27-2016, 02:55 AM
This thread is full of GREAT examples of women who have, regardless of their fears. Dont post saying how you can't possibly. Feel the fear and do it anyway :D
IvyRose
02-27-2016, 01:02 PM
This thread is full of GREAT examples of women who have, regardless of their fears. Dont post saying how you can't possibly. Feel the fear and do it anyway :D
THANKS sexysusie my thought exactly, for a lot of girls it hard to take the step to raise them. Lets use this thread as encouragement! I knwo it helped me out to climb up to my 9.99pvt/16.99excl. and i started out at 2.99/4.99. Without this thread I would still be working my ass off, having backpains for A LOT less money
MistressX
02-27-2016, 01:04 PM
I'm already at a point where I'm not making any money. I wish I had the courage to raise them more! I'm not saying other girls shouldn't. But I just don't think it's going to work for me right now. It sucks.
Just raised my rates...hopefully I didn't do it prematurely. Overall I feel better but things seem to have slowed down a bit. Maybe its just the week. I'll see. This is the first time I have ever questioned a rate raise.
Same here but last week they paid my higher rates w.o a problem so it must be this week.
kinkydirtybitch
03-01-2016, 01:51 AM
I love fiddling with my prices & have $9.99 exclusive & $14.99 private. I don't actually think I've done a private since and I do like the peace & quiet from the peepers.
kinkydirtybitch
03-01-2016, 02:01 AM
I want to raise my rates, but I don't know. I am at $6.49 with $8.49. I am afraid I will scare everybody, cause I think they are already pretty high (not that I'm not worth it)! Uh, decisions.
It's easier to not get so emotionally attached to any of your eggs when you have a basket full. If a site wants to give me 30% then unfortunately one's rates will simply have to be adjusted to take this into account.
Up they go!
Bella28
03-01-2016, 03:03 PM
You would be surprised! There as a point where I wasn't either and I had no option but to raise my rates and it's the best thing I have ever done. Now I am at 4.99 prem and 6.99 excl make good money at that but was thinking of increasing again but not sure.
sexysusie
03-01-2016, 03:26 PM
Do it :) I've raised mine on AW too although I feel I was already quite high priced. Kdb is right about being more confident when you have more avenues - try raising your rates while split camming then you won't have to be so reliant on just one site and worrying about your rates putting off customers. You'll be pleasantly surprised x
Bella28
03-01-2016, 04:03 PM
yes I'm going to try haha see how it goes.
FayeValentine
03-01-2016, 04:44 PM
I just got the email saying my rates have been raised, so maybe I'll raise them for the first time. I'm at 5.99 for prem, 3.74 for exc. I've only been camming a month though.
Miss-Trust
03-01-2016, 04:50 PM
I'm soon to be joining streamate and I have absolutely no idea what rates to charge. Do you guys think that as a newby on there I would be able to charge 8.99 exclusive and 11.99 private as a newby? I'm a Dominatrix so I also won't be doing any toy shows etc I am soon to start split camming and once I start then I'll be upping my rates on adultwork as the split camming will give me a bit of a safety net if I end up not getting any shows due to my rates going up.
Thanks in advance for anyone that replies. Xxx
sexysusie
03-01-2016, 05:04 PM
Yes go for it. It is far easier to start out high than to gain a customer Base and then raise them x
IvyRose
03-01-2016, 05:14 PM
I'm soon to be joining streamate and I have absolutely no idea what rates to charge. Do you guys think that as a newby on there I would be able to charge 8.99 exclusive and 11.99 private as a newby? I'm a Dominatrix so I also won't be doing any toy shows etc I am soon to start split camming and once I start then I'll be upping my rates on adultwork as the split camming will give me a bit of a safety net if I end up not getting any shows due to my rates going up.
Thanks in advance for anyone that replies. Xxx
I agree with sexysusie.
Your pre-set prices won't go up that high from the start (I think 4.99 is the max); you can can contact streamate support (
[email protected] or http://www.streamatemodels.com/contact/ when b eing logged in) and aks them to raise the prices for you.
May be that it will be a bit harder and slower at the start, but after a while when you made regs you will be happy you started out high and sticked with it.
Miss-Trust
03-01-2016, 07:32 PM
Thanks for that. I'm OK with starting off a bit slow and playing the long game. I will definatly contact them to raise the rates. No way will I cam for 4.99 a min with getting just 30%. Once that converts to pounds sterling that will be waaaay too low at about £1. Thanks ever so much. Xxx
SimoneGray
03-03-2016, 03:19 AM
SM also naturally raises your rate cap...like once you've worked X amount of hours at a certain rate you get that raise. Its pretty easy to get out of your first $5.99 cap, you just need to be working very consistently and hustling pvts. I think it took them a month to raise mine when I first joined.
kinkydirtybitch
03-03-2016, 03:27 AM
SM also naturally raises your rate cap...like once you've worked X amount of hours at a certain rate you get that raise. Its pretty easy to get out of your first $5.99 cap, you just need to be working very consistently and hustling pvts. I think it took them a month to raise mine when I first joined.
That makes sense, even though I've been neither consistent or hustling.
My price cap is $19.99 which gives me itchy fingers....
I LOVE THIS THREAD!
I have been burnt out for a while & while I miss camming I was sick of how sluggish the money has been. I have always kept my rates low (so low that making $1/min was often my goal..) because I'm a large BBW and really selling myself short. but I read through this thread and plucked up the courage to go change my SM rate to $4.99/$6.99 (a HUGE jump for me!) and I'm sooo grateful to everybody who had commented here, for sharing your stories and being inspiring, and encouraging us to DEMAND our worth!
I'm looking forward to camming over the next two weeks and seeing how it goes! :)
gorgeousbbw
03-13-2016, 05:38 AM
I just started on SM a week ago and have been doing great, decided to raise my rates by 25 cents more and today I reached my goal so much faster! it was so awesome and nobody complained they just kept taking me private and exclusive. fucking wonderful. :)
sexysusie
03-13-2016, 05:52 AM
Gvon BBW is a HUGE market! Never sell yourself short because you think your size isn't attractive - the bbw guys will be laughing as they wanl and save their money, cause they were ready to pay out big time for your sexy Ass! !;)
cutiecam
03-17-2016, 12:26 PM
What an amazing thread this is!
Oh boy. Well here's my silly story. I started Streamate in January (part time) and have been doing pretty okay. I'm at 5.99 exl and 11.99 pvt. I seriously hate privates. I admire ladies who can make this work for them... I just get stuck in 30 second freebie loops. Anyway, I digress. I'm in exl high 60% to low 70% a majority of the time. It seems like that's a good range, and I feel so lucky to have that! It could just be that I'm new and a novelty right now. Idk. Should I get greedy and raise it up a dollar or two? I fucking hate sitting in free chat doing nothing. I'd rather be cheaper and busy than expensive and in free chat all day. Anyway, is this too greedy... especially since I hate free chat? I'd like to keep my percentage in paid about the same as it is now.
Thanks to any replies. I really value this community. Amazing!
QueerCrip
03-19-2016, 01:18 AM
I love you guys SO MUCH! I just did my first show ever on Streamate tonight (so not a "raise" from anything per se) but I wouldn't have known how to set my prices otherwise and probably would have just assumed to pick something lower or mid-range since I was new. I set it at 3.99/5.99 and got a 24 min exclusive my night. Thanks!
MistressX
03-19-2016, 01:25 AM
Well I'm eating my words at the top of this page because after thinking about what you guys said for a bit, I did raise my rates. And guess what? Better customers and my regulars haven't noticed/complained and I am making $75 an hour average now. I started at $30/hr on Streamate when I started there a year and a half ago. Pretty damn cool!
BadBitch
03-21-2016, 09:32 PM
What an amazing thread this is!
Oh boy. Well here's my silly story. I started Streamate in January (part time) and have been doing pretty okay. I'm at 5.99 exl and 11.99 pvt. I seriously hate privates. I admire ladies who can make this work for them... I just get stuck in 30 second freebie loops. Anyway, I digress. I'm in exl high 60% to low 70% a majority of the time. It seems like that's a good range, and I feel so lucky to have that! It could just be that I'm new and a novelty right now. Idk. Should I get greedy and raise it up a dollar or two? I fucking hate sitting in free chat doing nothing. I'd rather be cheaper and busy than expensive and in free chat all day. Anyway, is this too greedy... especially since I hate free chat? I'd like to keep my percentage in paid about the same as it is now.
Thanks to any replies. I really value this community. Amazing!
I go back and forth with this as well. Would I rather sit in open for extended periods of time or be busy?
sexysusie
05-02-2016, 08:45 AM
Bump x
SylvySinclair
05-02-2016, 08:58 AM
same here, i prefer to have lower rates and get more guys coming in. bills wait for me and being proud to charge less wont pay them at all.
Glamourmilf
05-02-2016, 10:05 AM
same here, i prefer to have lower rates and get more guys coming in. bills wait for me and being proud to charge less wont pay them at all.
I agree. Free chat is what drains my energy, not constantly performing in paid chat.
I usually get 2-3 guys in paid at the same time, who STAY for a long time, when my rates are lower. $3.99 or $4.99
But that's just the way I like it.
Plus, I think it's psychological. If guys see me in free chat for too long, their twisted mind probably thinks that nobody wants me.
SylvySinclair
05-02-2016, 10:19 AM
the free chat is something i hate and usually when i go free i dot make shit, instead when i for paying, i make more. So unless i saty like 10 mins just for guys to get to know me and see what im about, i dont do free.
SoloDesire
05-02-2016, 10:20 AM
I get the same amount of shows whether my prices are at $3.99 or $5.99...only difference is I get paid more now. The minute men are still only going to stay a minute...only now I get paid more for that minute. The guys who want me to perform their fetish are going to take me exclusive whether I'm charging $5.99 or $7.99...only now I get paid more to do their fetish. Don't think you won't get shows at a higher price, because you will...just as many, if not more than when you were short changing yourself. Be confident and get paid more for the hard work you put into your shows...we deserve more than pocket change for what we do. You won't get it unless you demand it. My prices will only be going up with my gaining experience.
SimoneGray
05-10-2016, 12:50 PM
If anyone doubts raising their rates, just think like this: "What is MY cut?" because if your cut is low, basically you're telling yourself that you are only worth taking home a low amount. If you offer bargain prices, basically you're saying that you're a bargain good. Are you? Probably not. Don't be afraid to think highly of yourself money wise.
Cutie101
05-13-2016, 09:32 PM
If anyone doubts raising their rates, just think like this: "What is MY cut?" because if your cut is low, basically you're telling yourself that you are only worth taking home a low amount. If you offer bargain prices, basically you're saying that you're a bargain good. Are you? Probably not. Don't be afraid to think highly of yourself money wise.
THIS!
IS very true. My cut on streamate is 27%. So...I have to charge at least 7,99/ min so i can get a nice cut.
I never care how much the customer pays. I did this mistake and affected me mentally a lot.
Focus on your cut and on how much u take girls. Not on how much the customer pays.
Even the seller at the bakery afford himself to add something extra for the bread, especially if is good. And people will buy it because is good, the baker will make a nice proffit too and everyone is happy.
kinkydirtybitch
05-14-2016, 01:03 AM
When the guys on SM bitch about my prices I tell them straight: "If they didn't take 75% of my earnings I would be able to charge 75% less"
Cutie101
05-14-2016, 05:19 PM
When the guys on SM bitch about my prices I tell them straight: "If they didn't take 75% of my earnings I would be able to charge 75% less"
I didn't know we were allowed to say to the members how much is our cut. Or i would say too hahahaha :))))8)
CatieCurve
05-15-2016, 04:17 AM
THIS!
IS very true. My cut on streamate is 27%. So...I have to charge at least 7,99/ min so i can get a nice cut.
I never care how much the customer pays. I did this mistake and affected me mentally a lot.
Focus on your cut and on how much u take girls. Not on how much the customer pays.
Even the seller at the bakery afford himself to add something extra for the bread, especially if is good. And people will buy it because is good, the baker will make a nice proffit too and everyone is happy.
Yup and they dont go to the corner shop and ask if they can taste the bread first before they buy the loaf lmao.
I was doing okay sideline wise with custom vids but I've noticed people want to pay less and less recently. I've seen 5 and 7 credits being offered which is 5 or 7 dollars (UK girl here so take 20% off to get to £ stirling and then take out 35% for the site) so about a couple of quid. I think if we bow down to low prices then the expectation will be that.
PixiieGirl
05-15-2016, 04:24 AM
I've been slightly raising my prices each time I cam now and it's actually getting me guys who come and stay for a long time, like yesterday this guy was in group for 20 mins, then he got annoyed people kept popping in and asking me questions, so he took me to private for another 20! all at a higher rate than I usually charge, god bless this thread :D
CatieCurve
05-15-2016, 04:43 AM
I raised mine slightly yesterday so I'm going to stick with the new rates this week and see how it goes
SylvySinclair
05-15-2016, 05:16 AM
my fees are higher now and it didnt affect my business, on the contrary, i guess is better.
CatieCurve
05-15-2016, 05:37 AM
the free chat is something i hate and usually when i go free i dot make shit, instead when i for paying, i make more. So unless i saty like 10 mins just for guys to get to know me and see what im about, i dont do free.
I find it's a way to widen my audience a bit as I don't get many coming into my room otherwise. But I alternate it because it is intense at times.
SylvySinclair
05-15-2016, 06:16 AM
i think that there are some real payers who come to free, to get to know a girl and whats shes abt, but most of them are just twats trying to cum for free. I know it works for some girls, not for me though.
LaylaLovely
05-15-2016, 06:02 PM
So every few weeks I raise my prices.. Right now I'm at 5.99/7.99... And every time it works..but last week I went to 6.99/7.99 and my percentage went down to the 30s wen it is usually in the high 50s ..so I took it back to 5.99 and kept the exclusive at 7.99 and it's all back to normal..I feel like I should be able to go higher especially since I offer a lot and I'm on row 1 most the time.. I'm also wondering how much the top row girls are charging ..should I make a custy account and check ? I'm so close to the 2k thread and the only way to get ther is to raise them..or figure out gold shows..but then I. Going to have to make vids and pic sets cuz those guys don't wanna join ever!!
DonaDiabla
05-15-2016, 06:42 PM
I raised my rates everywhere and it has worked. I would have to say that I will be raising my skype rates because I got sick of morons coming to me. :)
Magical_Hoohah
05-15-2016, 07:59 PM
@Layla - This is mostly a personal superstition, but I always try to keep my private/exclusive ratio somewhere between 2:3 and 3:4. For example, at 5.99/7.99 you were at a 3:4 ratio, and then when you raised only the private rate to 6.99/7.99, it changed your ratio to 7:8. If I were at 5.99/7.99 and wanted to follow my ratio superstition, I'd raise them to 6.69/8.99.
It's probably total nonsense, but my gut tells me that if your private and exclusive rates are too close together, it scrambles guys' brains, and then neither option seems appealing to them. Does anyone else have any weird rates systems like that?
SoloDesire
05-15-2016, 08:01 PM
@Layla - This is mostly a personal superstition, but I always try to keep my private/exclusive ratio somewhere between 2:3 and 3:4. For example, at 5.99/7.99 you were at a 3:4 ratio, and then when you raised only the private rate to 6.99/7.99, it changed your ratio to 7:8. If I were at 5.99/7.99 and wanted to follow my ratio superstition, I'd raise them to 6.69/8.99.
It's probably total nonsense, but my gut tells me that if your private and exclusive rates are too close together, it scrambles guys' brains, and then neither option seems appealing to them. Does anyone else have any weird rates systems like that?
I always keep at least $2 between my private and exclusive rates. I find that's what works best for me.
sovereignv
05-16-2016, 01:40 AM
@Layla - This is mostly a personal superstition, but I always try to keep my private/exclusive ratio somewhere between 2:3 and 3:4. For example, at 5.99/7.99 you were at a 3:4 ratio, and then when you raised only the private rate to 6.99/7.99, it changed your ratio to 7:8. If I were at 5.99/7.99 and wanted to follow my ratio superstition, I'd raise them to 6.69/8.99.
It's probably total nonsense, but my gut tells me that if your private and exclusive rates are too close together, it scrambles guys' brains, and then neither option seems appealing to them. Does anyone else have any weird rates systems like that?
Someone posted a REALLY interesting article about pricing strategies here that said something to that effect. The gap between two prices makes them more appealing, apparently - if the price is the same (especially) it can cause buyer inertia. So you're definitely onto something. Gonna see if I can find that article and get back to you.#
Edit: Here it is!!
https://www.helpscout.net/blog/pricing-strategies/
sexysusie
05-16-2016, 03:08 AM
It was me who posted that in the AW thread. Also http://createhype.com/charge-what-youre-worth-how-to-balance-confidence-fear-and-competition-in-the-pricing-process/
Expanding your knowledge of how marketing works and the psychology behind it, can really help your confidence (as well as sales.)
BustyVixen
05-16-2016, 05:41 AM
Great article! It's so funny how our minds work.
SelenaGirl
05-16-2016, 06:54 AM
great idea..I just raised my private show rate to $4.50 a minute on chaturbate
Magical_Hoohah
05-16-2016, 10:25 AM
Thanks for the articles, Sovereign and Susie! That is some awesome info!
I really liked this bit from the creativehype article:
The problem with this school of thought is that while you may attract more clients in the short-run, clients who are drawn to you primarily because of your low prices and not your skill sets and value, are the wrong types of clients. And these are the clients who are often difficult to work with, demand flexibility and free handouts, ask for their money back, and simply don’t appreciate the value of what you’re doing for them.
It's nice to know that other professionals outside the sex industry experience these pain in the ass free loaders, too!
DancesWithSloths
05-16-2016, 11:20 AM
I liked the exact same bit.
I find it really hard to put any value on what I do, because I personally wouldn't spend £100 every other week to watch me jiggle my ass or whatever, but people do spend that.
PixiieGirl
05-16-2016, 11:51 AM
Great article! It's so funny how our minds work.
I'm a psychology graduate, just finished my masters in it so, yeah I agree ahahah