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Horny
05-16-2016, 12:58 PM
I'm in! New on SM so no regulars and getting quite a few shows but earning peanuts at it compared to other sites. Just put my exclusive at $6.99 and private at $4.99 to test the theory. Lets hope tomorrow is a good one! I seem to be spending a lot of time in free chat compared to you other ladies but have finally hit my 5 stars today so heres hoping that is going to help my traffic and placement!

Viola_S
05-25-2016, 12:24 AM
Oh. my. gosh.

I set my rates up to almost double and with the ratio thing in mind - and I am blowing up! I am busier than ever and breaking personal goals like crazy. I cant freaking believe this! I'm going to give it a few more days and see if I can bump it up a tiny bit. But damn! This site and you guys are the best <3

Melyssax
05-25-2016, 12:50 AM
Meeting goal much faster :D

Horny
05-25-2016, 02:31 AM
It worked for me too! I went $4.99 $6.99 and meeting goals quicker and just as busy I was a bit nervous but it's working!!

kortneykay
05-25-2016, 01:11 PM
@Layla - This is mostly a personal superstition, but I always try to keep my private/exclusive ratio somewhere between 2:3 and 3:4. For example, at 5.99/7.99 you were at a 3:4 ratio, and then when you raised only the private rate to 6.99/7.99, it changed your ratio to 7:8. If I were at 5.99/7.99 and wanted to follow my ratio superstition, I'd raise them to 6.69/8.99.

It's probably total nonsense, but my gut tells me that if your private and exclusive rates are too close together, it scrambles guys' brains, and then neither option seems appealing to them. Does anyone else have any weird rates systems like that?

It's actually quite the contrary for me. I always keep my prices $1 apart and since I hate peepers I always keep my private rate $1 more than my exclusive rate. When the guys ask I just tell them that I prefer 1 on 1 fun with my guys.

Most guys prefer 1 on 1 and the majority will go with what they can afford which is usually the cheaper option. Though I do get guys who pay for private at $9.99, I notice I get a ton of peepers in there. Because of that, it makes it worthwhile to me because that extra $1 per min makes it worth the headache. My exclusive rate is $8.99 and the guys tend to stay much longer.

I also don't start the show until after I know they've been charged. Even if they only stay 1 min I know I'm getting either $3.14 or $3.49 which is absolutely fine by me for not doing anything, lol.

sexysusie
05-25-2016, 04:58 PM
I experimented last night on AW with interesting results. With buyer psychology in mind I lowered my group rate slightly to £2.55 and raised my private from £3.99 - £4.99. I got absolutely tons of group shows with multiple guys at once (unheard of for me as I usually am 99% private despite my high rate). Made my goal in under 2 hours. I haven't been on in a while so it's possibly the case that there was just more traffic than usual, but it definitely felt like I hit that 'sweet spot' in price range. Try it :)

DonaDiabla
06-02-2016, 06:14 AM
This week, I will be raising my indy and skype rates. I will jump from 3.50 to 5.99 on skype :) Wish me luck.

PixiieGirl
06-02-2016, 06:44 AM
yesterday was super slow but I'm gonna raise my rates anyway, yolo~

SuperPookie
06-12-2016, 11:15 AM
bumped

LadyCoco
06-12-2016, 05:22 PM
I will definitely be raising my rates on SM and Cams. :)

Tigrillo
06-12-2016, 11:42 PM
I've been playing with my rates a lot more this year, vs last year during which I had fixed lower rates in EXC and a highER rate in premium. When I felt ready I bumped it up by a couple of dollars, now making premium cheaper. I tried at 5.69 -- 7.99 and I did so-so for awhile, but last week I got so bored I lowered it to 4.99 - 6.99 and suddenly I was busy. But I feel crappy about going lower, so tonight I hiked it up back to 5.69-6.99.

I don't even know how to keep track of the best productivity, or if it's even recommendable to change my rates throughout the day according to apparent traffic/takers, any opinons?

SimoneGray
06-13-2016, 12:14 AM
So I raised right up to where I wanted to be and got very little traffic, so i went back down to $6.99/$8.99 and am doing well there. Sometimes you just have to read the circumstances and do what fits them best. However the $6.99/8.99 was a huge raise from my 5.99/7/99 so I am still very happy with that.

DancesWithSloths
06-13-2016, 12:26 AM
I don't even know how to keep track of the best productivity, or if it's even recommendable to change my rates throughout the day according to apparent traffic/takers, any opinons?

I change my group rates during the workday on AW, where nearly everybody is in the same country. Not by much, mind you, by no more than £0.50. In the evening I hike them up again.

But on SM, with its worldwide audience, I keep them the same, other than swapping prem and exc from time to time. Occasionally I raise them when it's really slow, so that I can get the most out of the spenders. My beggar to spender ratio has been awful on SM recently, so I'm sticking to 9.99/5.99 for a while to cut down on the peepers.

Horny
06-13-2016, 03:39 AM
Well I have been getting really peed off with getting loads of people in my cheap private rate on sm and suddenly no exclusives. I am normally earning all the same every week but today's is the worst ever shift so I've put them up and will wait. No way working for less than $5.99 private it's stupid so now $7.99 exclusive so see what happens

SimoneGray
06-13-2016, 04:42 AM
^^ Best thing to do. Whenever I become ticked off with people becoming too comfortable in premium I raise the rate. Exclusion can be a good thing at times.

Horny
06-13-2016, 06:44 AM
Its been a really bad day but this morning some prick wanted JOI in private and then gave me a 3 when someone else joined in and I was talking to them too how funny is that?! Roll on tomorrow today has honestly been about my worst one on cam ever not even just for money but totally wankers. When they are paying a descent wack it never seems so painful at all!

DancesWithSloths
06-13-2016, 06:58 AM
^^It's true, when I raise my rates right up, I don't mind the ridiculousness so much. Awful day today, so sitting at 5.99/7.99 on SM.

Sanachan
06-24-2016, 07:33 PM
Read through this whole thread and it was magical.

I've been raising my rates as I've been going through everyone's posts. Yesterday I raised to $6.99/$8.99. Previously, I only had a dollar difference between premium and exclusive. Personally, I like the $2 difference - good arguments on losing out on potential money on privates if they're priced too close. Also, I like giving exclusives some extra value since it's a more personal experience and I offer more in exclusive anyway.

After I post this, I'll be bumping my rates to $7.99/$9.99 and see how that goes. I've been experiencing nothing but positives as my rates have gone up. I swear I really felt like I wasn't doing so well with all the time I felt I was just sitting in free chat, but no! My time in paid chat has actually gone up every single time I've raised my rates. So, even though I felt idle and not busy enough in free chat, that was just a misconception - this really highlights the importance of using SM's rate analysis tools for me.

Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences here. If it weren't for this thread, I never would have realized how much power we really do have. The empowerment has made such a positive impact on my attitude, which only enhances the quality of my shows. :3

ETA: I nearly forgot! Since bumping my rate last night, I was getting tipped more gold than ever in freechat! I was tipped four times in a row for oil (they can choose boobs or ass with panties still on) between three different guys. After that, I was promptly taken private by the guy who tipped twice. I'm hoping that this trend will continue, especially since I'm bumping up my rates by another $1.

SylvySinclair
06-24-2016, 07:51 PM
on ifriends i have raised my rates from 2.99 to 5.99

lll99
06-26-2016, 11:52 AM
Wow I just started streamate last night, am I totally low balling myself? My private rate is 2.99/min and exclusive is 3.99/min. Did you guys start around that number when you were just building up an audience? I did get a lot of privates but no exclusives. I worked for about an hour in private and made $68.

Magical_Hoohah
06-26-2016, 12:40 PM
^^ Yes, you are.

A few years back, a certain notorious studio (IM) had a policy that all their new models start at 3.99/4.99 (I can't say what their starting rates are now, but I'm sure they haven't decreased). If a model is just starting out with IM, we can reasonably assume that she is not that familiar with the industry and hasn't been doing research on forums like this, because if she had, she wouldn't be signing up with an evil pimp. In other words, these girls are pretty green.

In spite of how unscrupulous this studio is, they are large and have presumably done a fair amount of market research. If they are starting brand new models at 3.99/4.99, NO ONE should be starting at rates lower than that. I'd argue that if you've found your way to SW, you have access to a tremendous amount of info to quickly make you a better cam model, so your rates should actually be higher than a new model without this wealth of info.

lll99
06-26-2016, 12:54 PM
^^ Yes, you are.

A few years back, a certain notorious studio (IM) had a policy that all their new models start at 3.99/4.99 (I can't say what their starting rates are now, but I'm sure they haven't decreased). If a model is just starting out with IM, we can reasonably assume that she is not that familiar with the industry and hasn't been doing research on forums like this, because if she had, she wouldn't be signing up with an evil pimp. In other words, these girls are pretty green.

In spite of how unscrupulous this studio is, they are large and have presumably done a fair amount of market research. If they are starting brand new models at 3.99/4.99, NO ONE should be starting at rates lower than that. I'd argue that if you've found your way to SW, you have access to a tremendous amount of info to quickly make you a better cam model, so your rates should actually be higher than a new model without this wealth of info.

i agree i wish to have higher rates. but im trans and the trans girls in general have low rates...ive seen only one girl with over 5.99 and shes a super famous porn star. the average seems to be like 3.99(for being white and pretty), not lots of girls over that sadly. it is what it is. i would say i do stand out so over the next few days ill see if i can move past the low average and still get alot of privates...

sexysusie
06-26-2016, 07:36 PM
Do not go by what others are charging, base your prices on how much you want (or need, but want is better ;)) to earn. As a trans girl you're a very niche market my love, you can bank on it x

IvyRose
06-27-2016, 03:31 AM
I am from Europe, and if I would have followed the majority I would never gotten where I am right now; placement wise and earnings wise.
You cant go by the rest and follow, when you wanna exceed and stand out

Always make sure you at least charge more than those damn bots on streamate (playing prerecorded shows in a loop) I dont know for sure but I though they where charging 3.99pvt-5.99exl??
You are worth damn more than someone playing a vid

IvyRose
06-27-2016, 03:40 AM
Wow I just started streamate last night, am I totally low balling myself? My private rate is 2.99/min and exclusive is 3.99/min. Did you guys start around that number when you were just building up an audience? I did get a lot of privates but no exclusives. I worked for about an hour in private and made $68.

When you up your prices you will build up a whole new following, maybe some will stick around but in my experience a lot will move on and you will get better clients replacing them.
Better start of higher, so you will attract the clients you are looking for, instead of starting off low and having to replace them when going higher
From high to lower prices is always easier to do than the other way around
if you are in need of money quick though than maybe do it in a time when life is easier on you so you will have the patience to stick with you chosen price

imelly21
06-27-2016, 05:00 AM
quick idea if members complain on price raise ,u can say : oh , sorry, the site raised it for me, I can't change it back.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-27-2016, 05:27 AM
quick idea if members complain on price raise ,u can say : oh , sorry, the site raised it for me, I can't change it back.

Personally I don't say anything. I smile ever so sweetly while reaching for my mouse. Then I kick them out of the room. Sometimes they come back and spend. Sometimes they go off to a more affordable room. I haven't raised my prices in awhile? I think I'm gonna do that today?

LaylaLovely
06-27-2016, 07:19 AM
My favorite thing to do lately when a guy says you are so expensive..is play dumb..really?? Lol u think so?? Hmm that's weird u say that because im always in pvt ...then I get a pvt...usually an exclusive right away ..lolol..now there embarrassed n feel like the cheapo loser who couldn't afford me

Sanachan
06-29-2016, 03:29 PM
Ahh, things have been going so well that I just bumped my rates to $9.99/$12.99. Since things have been working out pretty great, I'm able to increase my daily goal amount! After all that time with lower rates, I felt lucky if I could hit my lower daily goal.

SylvySinclair
06-29-2016, 04:21 PM
i just raised my fees on aw from 1.49 grp to 1.69 and 2.49 to 2.69 prvt. lets see...anyway this week aw is dead on my end. not sure why, hope its not the fees and hope i can make my goal as i just started my reno and need the bucks....;/

Viola_S
07-13-2016, 01:02 AM
@Sana. Hey sorry for the subject change, but what is the boleynmodel link in your sig about?

sexysusie
07-13-2016, 03:52 AM
i just raised my fees on aw from 1.49 grp to 1.69 and 2.49 to 2.69 prvt. lets see...anyway this week aw is dead on my end. not sure why, hope its not the fees and hope i can make my goal as i just started my reno and need the bucks....;/

You can def go higher. Do it!!! :D

SylvySinclair
07-13-2016, 10:52 AM
You can def go higher. Do it!!! :D

Sus, how much do u think i can charge on sm and aw separately? on aw im kinda scared of raising too much as im non nude, not sure how guys will react to it. and on sm im totally lost as im a newbie, not sure i should go all the way up as ive seen here, like 9.99 and all. help?

SoloDesire
07-13-2016, 11:49 AM
Sus, how much do u think i can charge on sm and aw separately? on aw im kinda scared of raising too much as im non nude, not sure how guys will react to it. and on sm im totally lost as im a newbie, not sure i should go all the way up as ive seen here, like 9.99 and all. help?

We all struggle with what we should charge. It's hit and miss and I'm constantly moving my rates around to try and make the most of my time online. Just experiment with it until you find a place you are comfortable with. I wouldn't go any lower than $3.99 for private and $4.99 for exclusive though. Any lower and you'll lose your ass...but feel free to go higher if you're able! If you're making good money at a lower rate and you're staying busy enough for YOU, then raise them up! That's just my opinion :)

SylvySinclair
07-13-2016, 01:59 PM
i set them now to premium 9.99 and exclusive to 7.99....makes sense? is it too high for a newbie? ty

imelly21
07-13-2016, 04:36 PM
i set them now to premium 9.99 and exclusive to 7.99....makes sense? is it too high for a newbie? ty

most top rows models have privates and exclusive anywhere from 4.99 private (premium) to 7.99 or more exclusive.
I say whatever makes u happy and keeps u smiling, thats what u should charge:)

caramelcraze
07-13-2016, 07:34 PM
I've been messing with my rates on sm for a while. I dropped my group by .25 and raised my excl by over a dollar and have had WAY more customers. my per hour earnings have gone up by about $13, which makes me super happy. Come september, I plan to jack my rates up by about $2 a minute and Dec I plan to up it again by $1.50 or so. I need to save up for a move, so I've got to push myself and start committing to more hours. Really want to double my hourly average earnings by Dec.

Candycups
07-13-2016, 08:07 PM
i agree i wish to have higher rates. but im trans and the trans girls in general have low rates...ive seen only one girl with over 5.99 and shes a super famous porn star. the average seems to be like 3.99(for being white and pretty), not lots of girls over that sadly. it is what it is. i would say i do stand out so over the next few days ill see if i can move past the low average and still get alot of privates...


Do not go by what others are charging, base your prices on how much you want (or need, but want is better ;)) to earn. As a trans girl you're a very niche market my love, you can bank on it x

^^ In any area of life, when you target a niche market, it's hard to grow your audience beyond that niche. Your audience by nature is small, and the smaller it is, the more you should charge. They want something very specific that's not necessarily easy to come by, and you just happen to have that rare, specific thing for sale. In the case of trans, it's not like a girl offering a foot fetish show, where anyone with a pair of feet and the time/motivation to do some research can offer it. So arguably, your market is even smaller than most other niches, as far as the number of people who can fulfill that fantasy are concerned. Lowering prices to cast a wider net should not be a thing there -- the number of fish is the same, no matter what, and they're not that many. They want to have a live interaction with a transgirl. You're a transgirl. How much should they pay for the privilege? Inflate yourself. Act like you're worth more and people will pay accordingly. Always assume the yes.

In any walk of life, charging more than the average is a tough sale. Some mental trickery is required. But if the person making the sale acts like it never occurred to them to charge less, because *their* product is _clearly_ worth every penny, you can make the sale in a heart beat. Making it somehow different helps, too, in that it can disassociate your product slightly from others selling the same thing. But a huuuuge part of it is attitude. Starbucks and Apple are both great examples of things that charge borderline ridiculously marked up prices for essentially the same product, with only minor differences. (Granted, if you do a lot of graphic design, macs are one of the best computers out there because you can consistently see colors "as they are" on their monitors without much filter effect, and up until this last generation of phones, the iPhone was famous for its camera -- but the vast majority of people using Apple are not graphic designers. They're just after the "better" product... which they mostly only think is "better" because it costs more.)

CandiceS
07-13-2016, 08:36 PM
It's sort of a silly thing to compare but...Most of people always ask me why I still want to buy a 15k hermes birkin as it's a "normal bag" and so expensive. And somehow the answer is: People usually wants stuff that others can't have, or not that easy at least.
Same with camming ;)

SoloDesire
07-18-2016, 08:02 PM
Every time I lower my rates on SM thinking it might pull in more money for me I fail miserably. I raise them back up and I'm back to making my goals. It's crazy that more guys don't buy shows when I have lower prices! I'll never understand it, but I'm all for being paid more.

Sanachan
07-19-2016, 01:54 AM
^ So true. I've lowered my rates once before and I'll never do it again. Honestly, lowering my rates scares me more than raising them.

pixiepower329
09-29-2016, 09:15 PM
Finally got fed up and did the thing...

Traffic has been absolute SHIT for me on SM-- I'm talking, I haven't had a 25% or better in paid chat day in WEEKS. Played with my rate.. even dropped to 1.99/3.99 just for giggles... finally bumped it up to 5.99/7.99. Still a shitty % in paid chat, but I'm making a lot more for it.

One of these days I'll figure out why my % sucks so hard. I don't get it. I have a better room set up now, my tech is on point, I'm friendly and engaging, fully made up on cam. Yeah, I'm a BBW-- but I have a pretty fucking face. Meh... I'll figure it out eventually.

Glamourmilf
09-29-2016, 10:37 PM
Finally got fed up and did the thing...

Traffic has been absolute SHIT for me on SM-- I'm talking, I haven't had a 25% or better in paid chat day in WEEKS. Played with my rate.. even dropped to 1.99/3.99 just for giggles... finally bumped it up to 5.99/7.99. Still a shitty % in paid chat, but I'm making a lot more for it.

One of these days I'll figure out why my % sucks so hard. I don't get it. I have a better room set up now, my tech is on point, I'm friendly and engaging, fully made up on cam. Yeah, I'm a BBW-- but I have a pretty fucking face. Meh... I'll figure it out eventually.

Maybe try camming at different times?

JackAlexander
09-30-2016, 06:11 AM
Finally got fed up and did the thing...

Traffic has been absolute SHIT for me on SM-- I'm talking, I haven't had a 25% or better in paid chat day in WEEKS. Played with my rate.. even dropped to 1.99/3.99 just for giggles... finally bumped it up to 5.99/7.99. Still a shitty % in paid chat, but I'm making a lot more for it.

One of these days I'll figure out why my % sucks so hard. I don't get it. I have a better room set up now, my tech is on point, I'm friendly and engaging, fully made up on cam. Yeah, I'm a BBW-- but I have a pretty fucking face. Meh... I'll figure it out eventually.

Screw the time in paid chat percentages. The only number I get emotional about is the one I see in my bank account.

I raised my rates and my % in paid is also down and I make more money as well. Think about it..... You are now a less affordable option. Less people are going to go private thus lowering the stats. Also, the stat on your hourly wage is flawed as well.

The stats are wrong, the information is not valid. The only validity you need is did I work less and make more? I did. I now make in 2 hours what I made in 2 shifts but according to SM my hourly is horrific and my time in paid chat is the lowest it has ever been so I stopped looking at them.

Like Ivy says, you are a luxury item. I am sure the Ferrari dealership sells less cars in a day than the Toyota dealership, but I bet they make more money in a year.... see the diff?

laurielegs
09-30-2016, 10:55 AM
Screw the time in paid chat percentages. The only number I get emotional about is the one I see in my bank account.

I raised my rates and my % in paid is also down and I make more money as well. Think about it..... You are now a less affordable option. Less people are going to go private thus lowering the stats. Also, the stat on your hourly wage is flawed as well.

The stats are wrong, the information is not valid. The only validity you need is did I work less and make more? I did. I now make in 2 hours what I made in 2 shifts but according to SM my hourly is horrific and my time in paid chat is the lowest it has ever been so I stopped looking at them.

Like Ivy says, you are a luxury item. I am sure the Ferrari dealership sells less cars in a day than the Toyota dealership, but I bet they make more money in a year.... see the diff?

OMG I needed to read this. It's discouraging to see my percent in paid go down and my sad hourly rate lately but didn't occur to me the stats could be wrong. I need to pay more attention to the total money I'm getting.

pixiepower329
09-30-2016, 02:58 PM
My % in paid chat was shit when I was at 2.99/4.99...

Glamour-- I've literally cammed at every conceivable time of day... this has been a year long journey so far. The BEST stats I've ever had were right around last Christmas. I was at 3.99/5.99 and hit right at 35% in paid.

JessRyan
10-07-2016, 01:46 PM
Raised my rates! On SM A whole dollar too. Premium is now $7.99 Exclusive $9.99 I was thinking how I offer pretty much every thing (Anal/DP/ATM/Role/RacePlay...and do a lot for these guys. I deserve it. No complaints and there very well shouldn't be. My guys hopefully know better and also know I'm worth it.

caramelcraze
10-09-2016, 01:28 PM
Finally been bopping around the first 3 rows even at prime time, so my group is up around $5.49 & my exclusive is in the sevens... i just want it at 9 by the end of the year. I've come so far from 3.49 & 3.99 in january when i started on streamate. Im so much happier being primarily on a ppm site over a token site.

imelly21
10-09-2016, 05:43 PM
Finally been bopping around the first 3 rows even at prime time, so my group is up around $5.49 & my exclusive is in the sevens... i just want it at 9 by the end of the year. I've come so far from 3.49 & 3.99 in january when i started on streamate. Im so much happier being primarily on a ppm site over a token site.
Just raise to whatever you want now, why wait till end of the year? Everyday there are new customers who have no clue what your prices used to be.

caramelcraze
10-10-2016, 12:21 AM
Just raise to whatever you want now, why wait till end of the year? Everyday there are new customers who have no clue what your prices used to be.

I just raised my rates, so i want to build up my custumer base at this price before going up another dollar. The customer base varies wildly from 4.99-6.49, so upping it should be gradual before i jump some more. Christmas i know ill be up to 7.99 and 9.99, so it's all in good time. I hope i can charge $15 a minute some day. ☺