View Full Version : Raise Your Rates - Challenge!
Erika_Xstacy
10-10-2016, 08:37 AM
I raised my rates and burned myself. It took me a week to figure out my formula.
Im about average to make great money on sm, I found that raising too high killed me.
I had lost a lot regulars that had sustained me for years.
When I dropped my rates to 2014 prices, I was back on the ball. I sent out a blast email to everyone and got a lot of shows from men that hadnt seen me in over a year.
Im back to my basics , 5.99 and 9.99 and loving cam all over again.
I started camming at
4.99 and 5.99
4.99 and 6.99
4.99 and 9.99
5.99 and 9.99
6.99 and 9.99
6.99 and 12.99
5.99 and 12.99
now back to 5.99 and 9.99 my magic numbers
DancesWithSloths
10-10-2016, 09:10 AM
I raised to 5.99/7.99 at the start of August, and although a few regs have stayed with me and I'm getting new exclusives here and there, I'm having a hell of a time getting new custies into pvt at all. It's amazing that they'll pay 7.99, but won't touch me at 5.99. Weird!
I end up not being logged into SM all that much, because I'm in and out of shows on AW all the time, so new SM regs don't have time to find me. Going to give the 5.99 rate another week and then, if things don't improve, go back to 4.99. Sad times.
Cutie101
10-24-2016, 06:52 PM
Well, is it me, or the customers started to complain more and more about the prices?
I never been trough that, till a while ago. Since August I started getting a lot of customers who are complaining about my prices. Even I lowered them.
Have you, girls, been trough this?
SoloDesire
10-24-2016, 06:59 PM
Well, is it me, or the customers started to complain more and more about the prices?
I never been trough that, till a while ago. Since August I started getting a lot of customers who are complaining about my prices. Even I lowered them.
Have you, girls, been trough this?
I haven't had a lot of complaints...they just stopped spending :/
DeepThoughts
10-25-2016, 03:41 AM
I have had complaints about my prices as well but Im also seeing a lot of new clients coming through so I have attributed it to this. Its always good to have fresh meat moving through but inevitably some of it will be too broke to afford my ass!
Erika_Xstacy
10-26-2016, 02:00 PM
I haven't had a lot of complaints...they just stopped spending :/
lol that is exactly what happened to me.
xxxGothBarbie
12-09-2016, 06:43 PM
What do most of you charge on SM & other sites out of curiosity? On SM I was at 4.99 pvt/6.99 excl but rarely got shows so I dropped down to 3.99 pvt/4.99 excl. I don't want to cheapen myself but since this is my only source of income right now I just want more business.
Cutie101
12-09-2016, 07:49 PM
What do most of you charge on SM & other sites out of curiosity? On SM I was at 4.99 pvt/6.99 excl but rarely got shows so I dropped down to 3.99 pvt/4.99 excl. I don't want to cheapen myself but since this is my only source of income right now I just want more business.
Right now I am at $6,49/ $8,49.
And I do ok.
My advice is... RAISE YOUR RATES!
If your cut is less than $1,50/ min, then your rates are too low.
SM percentage share is too low to afford charing low prices.
Try 5,99/ 7,99 for 2 weeks and see what happens.
sexysusie
12-10-2016, 01:34 AM
Absolutely the above! Mine are 6.69 and 7.99 at the moment. I don't get much business on SM because at the end of the day that IS expensive for the guys. But I'm not willing to accept less. Those rates are already lower than I'd prefer. I'd rather splitcam and have the rates I want on all the sites, than lower them and rely on only the one site x
MistressX
12-10-2016, 04:13 PM
I recently raised my rates back up $1. I had lowered them because it was absolutely shite on SM and my paid percentages were so low, like 20's and 30's! Then a few days ago I said fuckit and put them back up to where they were because things have picked up for me. I changed ONE thing about my setup and the guys are going nuts over it! Now this week and last my %'s are in the 50's and 60's! Unheard of for me! Knock on wood though.. But the raise seems to be helping so much with my bottom line. I am not going to assume this will keep up though so I'm just going to enjoy it while it lasts :-/
DancesWithSloths
12-11-2016, 11:14 AM
I confess I haven't worked on SM very much since I've been prioritising AW and indy, but changing my rates to 4.99/7.99 has worked out very well. (I had been at 4.99/6.99 for 2 years.) My fetish regs went up to 7.99 without complaint, but when I tried 5.99 for pvts, I wasn't getting enough vanilla footfall without gold shows. I enjoy gold shows (big ol' exhibitionist ^_^), but they exhaust me, so back down I went to 4.99.
The few times I worked on SM since then worked out pretty well: several good chunky fetish exclusives to make up the bulk of my pay, with a bunch of easy pvts to pad it out a bit. I'm happy here for the moment, but might have to reconsider if the $/£ exchange shifts significantly. (At the moment I make slightly more per minute on SM than AW, to make up for the aggravation of the 60-sec preview)
xxxGothBarbie
12-17-2016, 02:13 PM
Ya I'm def going back up to 4.99/6.99 for myself. I hate not having many shows on SM but it is annoying to see my cut after all the bs I had to go thru to get them to spend. When I was 4.09 I got pvts constantly lol weird. What are your rates on Cams (those of you that work that site also)?
MsJess
03-13-2017, 05:02 PM
I raised my exclusive rates today and made my low goal within an hour of being online, most of the times i reach it in 2 hours :D yay i am so happy!!!! also got a few new regulars who bought some blocks :D
MissKayleeRose
03-25-2017, 12:36 AM
Yaaay! Congratz @MsJess and Thanks for bumping this thread.
Cutie101
04-11-2017, 03:35 AM
Question for independent girls who work on Jasmin: Have you tried upping your price to $4,99?
I am on $2,99 now and I haven't been for a while on Jasmin. I've been back with a consistent schedlue there but I really don't have the patience to build up privates on that price.
I wonder if is ok to upgrade to 4,99 so soon and with such a low position on page.
Hmmm..
nillanaughty
04-17-2017, 11:03 PM
Soo... help me out here, guys...
I need ideas on how to keep my show... just that... a SHOW...
I need ideas on how to keep things interesting, because a lot of times I feel as though I bore people who come in my room
Another mistake I've realized I think I'm making is that I think I'm giving away too much for the price I asked for. For example, last night I said that I would do a cumshow after I reached 143 tk. So I did the cumshow. And I didn't get ANY more tips after that (besides ONE tk) So that tells me that I probably just attracted a bunch of freeloaders...
I'm scared that since I've been doing cumshows every day since I started camming (and for a small price, too) that now it's going to make it difficult for me to have much success in the future... like, what if I'm already on a tube site or some some shit?
Part of me wants to stop allowing cumshows in free chat, and only do them in group shows, BUT I'm not super conventionally pretty or anything and I don't think anybody will end up actually getting a show with me (also, how much do you earn during shows? i have not done one yet, because this is something that concerns me also. if they are like 50 cents per minute or some shit, then HELL NO. or are you able to set the price yourself?)
I thought about creating a tip menu to keep stuff interesting, kinda like they do on MFC, but i'm not on mfc though, i am on chaturbate (and have a STRONG preference to stay on chaturbate) and i am curious if making a tip menu on chaturbate will be worthwhile, like do people really USE tip menus on chaturbate? (sorry if my question is kinda dumb)
basically, what are some ideas i can use to spice up my shows, without giving too much away, but still keeping it sexy enough to attract people? something not too prudish but not too sexy? like, would playing games help? and what are some game ideas? isn't there a thread with game ideas on here somewhere, bc i coulda swore i saw once once but can't find it now
sexysusie
04-18-2017, 12:45 AM
143 tokens on mfc/cb?? That's $7 hun, less than some even charge for adding their friend list, less than minimum wage waiting tables!
If you don't want to do cumshows don't do them, or only do them when you feel like it. If you do want to do them then add them for a HIGH price on your tip menu. Read the chaturbate thread https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?183458-The-Chaturbate-thread Yes they do use tip menus, and there are apps/bots that will message your room every few mins to remind them what your tip menu is or what your offers of the day are etc, USE THEM!
Seriously, if you're going to charge so little, stop camming, go wait tables, because you're cheapening the customers!
LolaLu
04-18-2017, 02:21 AM
Wow! $7?? One thing I have learned while camming is that you don't have to do anything you dont want to do! There will still be someone who pays for you.
I've never worked Chaturbate nor any token site to be honest, it's not my bag but what about games? Can't you offer a lucky dip for however many $ or a pic set for $$ ? You don't have to be super pretty in this game, even if you just have a 'quirk' of some sort, find it and USE it! You can turn it around.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-18-2017, 05:23 AM
This is a great thread to read through if you're struggling with your rates and could use some perspective on what it's like to work smarter and not harder.
Also this thread formerly known as Stop Being So Cheap is quite insightful as well https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?166860-Cammodel-Rates-What-Should-I-Charge
I know that many of you guys are new around here, but please help us out and read the threads. I understand that many of them you probably don't even know exist, but when you find one that's relevant please start reading at the beginning. You'll find so much wisdom between the first post and the last, I swear it.
Ways To Stall And Make More Money https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?150777-Ways-To-STALL-and-Make-More-Money
SexxiLexxi
04-18-2017, 01:52 PM
^Exactly!
I know some of the threads are extremely long but they are always worth the time to read them from page one to the end. Add them to your subscriptions for you to be able to find later and you'll be able to continue reading them.
There is such gold in all of the threads here on SW so don't be so quick to skim/jump through them or you'll miss out.
nillanaughty
04-19-2017, 06:03 AM
After watching LOA vids I've been positive as fuck. I finally have the courage to be my 100% COMPLETE SELF, and I no longer give a fuck about being all things to all people. Fuck THAT!!
Can I have feedback on my new profile and tips menu, guys? I think it's a DRASTIC improvement compared to what I was charging before, but if it's a bit TOO real for somebody who's only been camming for a few days, let me know. My twitter is now greedy as shit, too. Like fuck, I have no chill... and I LIKE IT, it feels so fucking good to be honest as shit. Dayum.
sexysusie
04-19-2017, 06:17 AM
Hey good on you for taking the constructive criticism. I like your new profile. I can't profess to be a CB expert as I don't work there (only mfc) but I wish you well. Keep knowing your worth, no matter how guys seem to push or how much you actually *need* money x
nillanaughty
04-19-2017, 06:22 AM
Hey good on you for taking the constructive criticism. I like your new profile. I can't profess to be a CB expert as I don't work there (only mfc) but I wish you well. Keep knowing your worth, no matter how guys seem to push or how much you actually *need* money x
thank you sooo much :D :D :D
kendallkushxo
04-20-2017, 05:34 PM
I raised my rates and now I reach my goals faster plus no one complains.
It's so funny everyone was complaining when I was charging less that I was charging too much lol
raising rates on sm was a very good decision.
IvyRose
04-21-2017, 02:57 AM
After watching LOA vids I've been positive as fuck. I finally have the courage to be my 100% COMPLETE SELF, and I no longer give a fuck about being all things to all people. Fuck THAT!!
Can I have feedback on my new profile and tips menu, guys? https://chaturbate.com/p/nillanaughty/ I think it's a DRASTIC improvement compared to what I was charging before, but if it's a bit TOO real for somebody who's only been camming for a few days, let me know. My twitter is now greedy as shit, too. Like fuck, I have no chill... and I LIKE IT, it feels so fucking good to be honest as shit. Dayum.
I think it will pull in the kind of guys you are after. When you choose for something, go all in, and I see your doing that so that is awesome. With the fetish you have chosen to go after, you have to play the game hardcore... if not they wont bite, so you are doing awesome. You will noticed quickly enough if it is the clientele that you attract or not, when you do you can always play it up even bigger ( as in you dont have to explain why you want certain tips for certain things).
SoloDesire
04-21-2017, 12:27 PM
It's soooooo fucking dead on Streamate lately so I'm raising my rates to make up for the lack of shows I'm getting. If they aren't going to buy shows when my rates are lower then fuck 'em, they can now pay a higher rate again if they want to see my show. I tried to be nice. No more Mrs. Nice girl.
maddiebabe
04-21-2017, 01:45 PM
Lol that's exactly what a real estate investor I know does. People weren't renting a property for $1300 a month so he raised it to $1600 a month and got the ideal tenants in!
Slightly unrelated but exact same idea
devildolly
04-21-2017, 02:05 PM
High Five! I second the motion! I am a findomme and as a rule I must and do charge high ( up to 10/min) and rarely offer discounts and rarely show my pussy and do no penetration shows as Its part of my image and also my personality. I truly feel as a woman all of our pussies are still valuable and powerful despite what the new netflix and chill fuck buddy etc culture has tried to tell us ( that we should just give it away/show for free or cheap because if not you someone else will and its just pussy etc_ *eyeroll*). Yes every woman has one yes we are the same in that sense but they are all unique and men still crave pussy no matter what . You should not give away/show your precious pussy to pigs who have not earned it for free or dollar store prices whether you are a true domme or not. Vanilla cam girls should charge at least 3.99 outside of an introductory 99. per minute some site like imlive make you do at first...we need to take back out pussy power as a whole. if we all do it that will be the new norm. If any guy balks he can go elsewhere. I know there are alot of cam models from studios in 3rd world countires that have there rates set bargain basement...but you are fortunate enough to not be a slave in one of those places,you can show how you are specia/unique you are and you are that! Stop being desperate and undercutting because you feel you "have to do what these guys want" or "that's just how it is now" . you ar emore than a pretty piece of disposible cheap flesh! The quality guys will pay $$$ for it if you ask for it they will appreciate it more than 99 cent/minute dollar store pussy.Guys will get away with what we allow . So have some cam girl self esteem- stop trying to be nice and an over giver /pleaser at your expense ( unless you are truly sub...even if you are sub you should charge even more for it!)...Okay i'm done ranting! Now raise those rates!
SuperPookie
04-21-2017, 05:14 PM
I raised my Skype rates by $20 for1 hour shows and $10 for 45 minute ones.
JamaicanAliesha
04-21-2017, 05:23 PM
My rates are not eve that high compared to some other beautiful cam models on here but when I raised them, I made more money and had better customers!!
Raise those rates!!
I went from 4.99/5.99 to 5.99/6.99 and will be raising them again in the next couple weeks.
IvyRose
04-21-2017, 08:25 PM
It's soooooo fucking dead on Streamate lately so I'm raising my rates to make up for the lack of shows I'm getting. If they aren't going to buy shows when my rates are lower then fuck 'em, they can now pay a higher rate again if they want to see my show. I tried to be nice. No more Mrs. Nice girl.
Me too, I raised it up again to the max, I needed the motivation. And it worked!
sexysusie
04-21-2017, 10:29 PM
Lol that's exactly what a real estate investor I know does. People weren't renting a property for $1300 a month so he raised it to $1600 a month and got the ideal tenants in!
Slightly unrelated but exact same idea
Yessss this is the way. Buyers get fatigue if they see too many options, you give them the ideal way out by looking different to the others because you're higher priced. They also perceive higher value to a higher number, so combine both marketing tactics and WIN ;)
JamaicanAliesha
04-21-2017, 11:18 PM
I just raised my rates due to some rude fuckers lol. 2 guys go into pvt at once and one expects this super detailed anal toy show without telling me what he specifically wanted to do before going to pvt and the other goes in there and wants a one on one show of me praising his cock, again not telling me what the fuck he wanted before going.
These fuckers rated me 1 star and 3 star. Fuck that.
I raised my pvt rate to 7.99 and my exl rate at 5.99.
Read my damn rules before taking me to pvt.
I emailed Liz to ask her if they can remove it because that is fuckery.
It's too slow to be dealing with assholes, if they want to see me they will have to pay even more now. I'm over these cheap asswipes. I can't wait to not be new so I can have some decent regulars.
JamaicanAliesha
04-22-2017, 01:52 AM
HAH! I win tho!
I just got a long as hell private at the rate of 7.99! I'm kinda glad those idiots pushed me to put my rate so high, cause I just made double what I usually do in 10 minutes.
And the custie wasn't a demanding or pushy ass! He took his time, and wasn't trying to jump in and out because "7.99 is too much bb."
*evil cackle*
Teddy_Bear
04-22-2017, 01:58 AM
I already charge $10 a min and I still want to increase my rates by a dollar or two for a number of reasons mostly because I know these guys will pay it and also because I put my all into shows and I am more than worth the raise.
You can never be priced too high because someone will always pay it no matter how many guys bitch about it first. I was perving the gorgeous IvyRose the other day and a couple of guys were bitching about her (extremely high ;)) price but a guy still took her private about 10 mins later. I was high-fiving her in my head! She is an inspiration :D
sexysusie
04-22-2017, 10:21 AM
You are too teddy bear! Ivy is a massive inspiration but she's American (as well as stunning ;)) so I assumed that wouldn't work as well for me on SM, then when I saw another Brit like myself was also charging that I went for it. My only issue on SM now is that I can't get long shows too often because the guys hit their limit at 10 mins}:D}:D;D
IvyRose
04-22-2017, 10:25 AM
You are too teddy bear! Ivy is a massive inspiration but she's American (as well as stunning ;)) so I assumed that wouldn't work as well for me on SM, then when I saw another Brit like myself was also charging that I went for it. My only issue on SM now is that I can't get long shows too often because the guys hit their limit at 10 mins}:D}:D;D
Hon I am from Europe- Belgium (and it is also what is stated at my profile; as in my regs and freechat members also know I am from Europe)
So go for it!
IvyRose
04-22-2017, 10:32 AM
I already charge $10 a min and I still want to increase my rates by a dollar or two for a number of reasons mostly because I know these guys will pay it and also because I put my all into shows and I am more than worth the raise.
You can never be priced too high because someone will always pay it no matter how many guys bitch about it first. I was perving the gorgeous IvyRose the other day and a couple of guys were bitching about her (extremely high ;)) price but a guy still took her private about 10 mins later. I was high-fiving her in my head! She is an inspiration :D
Awww thanks Teddy! you made me blush!
They only bitch because they want it really bad... It always makes me laugh when guys still try to haggle even when I am INSIDE pvt! Also cracks me up when someone start of with "your prices are really high"... in my mind I go through how I could react, and he follow up with "that turns me on so much". They will moan and complain no matter how high or low your price, I do whatever pleases me and makes me happy (and the most $) =) It never hurts to try!
IvyRose
04-22-2017, 10:39 AM
On topic of raising rates- I will never ever do a goldshow lower than 25 buy in EVER again. This week all of the sudden I had 4 recorded/leaked smshows on the interwebsss, of which 3 goldshows (from appr 2 years back; I could tell because I was performing in my old appartment).
Luckily streamate support (OMG really?!) took it down for me in 1 day! <- SM support you are AWESOME
For taking such a big risk of being recorded, they better pay up (if I ever do them again, bec I dont really need them in the first place.. a lot of times I feel like loosing out on money bec in the same time a big spender could have found me)
Teddy_Bear
04-22-2017, 11:03 AM
You are too teddy bear! Ivy is a massive inspiration but she's American (as well as stunning ;)) so I assumed that wouldn't work as well for me on SM, then when I saw another Brit like myself was also charging that I went for it. My only issue on SM now is that I can't get long shows too often because the guys hit their limit at 10 mins}:D}:D;D
Ivy beat me to it regarding her not being American. I don't have the issue of cutting off at 10 mins and a lot of my actual shows where the guys want to enjoy the experience not a quick wank (which I won't cater to) are normally between 12-18 mins long at any one time. I'm not sure why you have this issue Susie but still I also get the 10 min crowd but can get 4-5 of those shows in one day - don't need to tell you my cut of that is still pretty good, including my other splitcam sites and it's a very good haul of $$$ every day when it's busy. When it's not I feel compensated that for the few shows I do get I've earned well that is why I never lower the price.
It's weird to think of myself as an inspiration but loads of ladies have told me this so thanks for the compliment :D
Teddy_Bear
04-22-2017, 11:08 AM
Awww thanks Teddy! you made me blush!
They only bitch because they want it really bad... It always makes me laugh when guys still try to haggle even when I am INSIDE pvt! Also cracks me up when someone start of with "your prices are really high"... in my mind I go through how I could react, and he follow up with "that turns me on so much". They will moan and complain no matter how high or low your price, I do whatever pleases me and makes me happy (and the most $) =) It never hurts to try!
I've seen you work it girl and on the topic of gold shows from the above post I was shocked to see you charging $20-$25 buy ins and guys were paying it! I need to give this a go more often as I have loads of loyal guys that end up tipping high amounts anyway to get the show going who mention raising the buy in so it's fair on everyone who tips in, it's worth a shot. As for the 'I want you but can't afford you' crowd I just ignore them, if they bitch then they get ignored and most then go exclusive at my 'too high' price just to get my attention back. It's fun to watch them grovel in private but be assholes in free chat - the male ego so FRAGILE :banghead:
maddiebabe
04-22-2017, 11:48 AM
I don't understand why I see some super hot fitness model looking women in 1st world countries that charge really low..I don't even charge as much as some of you gals- I'd describe myself as more midpriced than high priced even so..
I feel like women in first world countries should charge a certain minimum and not what the ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria girls charge..
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-22-2017, 12:00 PM
I don't understand why I see some super hot fitness model looking women in 1st world countries that charge really low..I don't even charge as much as some of you gals- I'd describe myself as more midpriced than high priced even so..
I feel like women in first world countries should charge a certain minimum and not what the ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria girls charge..
What does this mean exactly?
Cutie101
04-22-2017, 12:14 PM
I feel like women in first world countries should charge a certain minimum and not what the ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria girls charge..
Wtf did I just read??
So, if I am from "ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria" or any other "not first world countries", I don't have the right to charge a "certain minimum". What means "first world countries" to you??
So, those of us who are not from a 1st world country, we probably have a handicap and we definately should charge less, according to you.
Damn I am so angry right now. I expect judgement from anyone else but not a camgirl.
I am going to puke a little.
Let me explain why eastern europeans and south americans charge less: Because the living costs in here is way more cheaper than in 1st world countries (we are supposed to live at the end of the world, so I explain to you , according to your impressions, ok?). Here, a rent is about 3-400$. High speed internet is $10/month or even less, a 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom apartament is about $75- $100k . Food and utilities as well. Here, with 3-$5000 per month we have a high lifestyle.
We afford to charge less, not because we are more stupid than girls from the 1st world countries, lol. Or because we are underestimated. OR because we are hungry for money or because we are desperate.
We have different needs. That's it.
Personally, I charge high prices and I don't meet judgements from members, that I should charge less because I am Eastern European.
I am fucking sick right now.
Marina Starr
04-22-2017, 12:24 PM
I think she meant women in the first world countries should charge a certain minimum as in good amount of dollar and not cheapen themselves?
What does this mean exactly?
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-22-2017, 12:28 PM
I really don't think that the popular opinion is that Non-Western models should charge lower. Or that they're of a lesser value. But so many fall for that fallacy and then we end up with post like this^^^ I appreciate you taking time out to explain, not that you had to in the first place but all the same thank you. We've had to talk about his before and I suppose we're over due for another discussion on why some charge what they do.
Wtf did I just read??
So, if I am from "ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria" or any other "not first world countries", I don't have the right to charge a "certain minimum". What means "first world countries" to you??
So, those of us who are not from a 1st world country, we probably have a handicap and we definately should charge less, according to you.
Damn I am so angry right now. I expect judgement from anyone else but not a camgirl.
I am going to puke a little.
Let me explain why eastern europeans and south americans charge less: Because the living costs in here is way more cheaper than in 1st world countries (we are supposed to live at the end of the world, so I explain to you , according to your impressions, ok?). Here, a rent is about 3-400$. High speed internet is $20/month or even less. Food as well. Here, with 3-$5000 per month we have a high lifestyle.
We afford to charge less, not because we are more stupid than girls from the 1st world countries, lol. Or because we are underestimated. OR because we are hungry for money or because we are desperate.
We have different needs. That's it.
Personally, I charge high prices and I don't meet judgements from members, that I should charge less because I am Eastern European.
I am fucking sick right now.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-22-2017, 12:38 PM
Cutie it does matter and I totally feel you and I hear you. I'm running low on patience today so I'm gonna step away for a moment.
Cutie101
04-22-2017, 12:46 PM
I really don't think that the popular opinion is that Non-Western models should charge lower. Or that they're of a lesser value. But so many fall for that fallacy and then we end up with post like this^^^ I appreciate you taking time out to explain, not that you had to in the first place but all the same thank you. We've had to talk about his before and I suppose we're over due for another discussion on why some charge what they do.
What annoyed me, wasn't the prices thing. Not that much. Or maybe, not at all, but I still gave an explanation for that phenomeno of the low prices.
I am angry because she made that comparison "1st world countries" versus "ukraine/russia/romania/bulgaria". Like theese countries are some kind of a scum of the society, a 3rd world country or whatever.
What countries are actually included in the "1st world" category?
I feel offended because I live in one of theese countries and I can assure her that I live in a civilized and modern country. I have access to internet and latest technology and I am a camgirl. And I have access to education, I know english perfectly and overall, I live free.
I don't deny that the rural or country side areas are a bit behind, with the today society and civilisation standards (mostly because elders live there and there are more factors that sum up with this slowness), and the urban areas are the most developed, but I assure her that a 3rd world country, doesn't have theese benefits, even for the citizens who live in the city.
Cutie101
04-22-2017, 12:49 PM
Cutie it does matter and I totally feel you and I hear you. I'm running low on patience today so I'm gonna step away for a moment.
Me too. I am done with this because I explained what it was to be explained and I spilled all the anger.
Now I am chilled.
maddiebabe
04-22-2017, 01:36 PM
I ain't reading all this wall of text. No I never said eastern Euro should charge less but I do say most of them happen to charge less. I'm commenting that some Americans/UK etc charge so little they don't even get $1 a minute their cut. It costs a fuck of a lot more to live in the US, UK, Australia, western europe than *most* places in eastern Europe with a few exceptions.
if you don't get what I am saying don't rant about it