View Full Version : Raise Your Rates - Challenge!
bombassbitch
02-04-2012, 05:31 AM
I asked them to raise my rates above $4.99. will let you all know how it goes I plan on gradually raising it a few cents each week.
To all the girls reading/lurking etc:
HAVE FAITH IN YOURSELF! Raise your rates stop doing cheap gold shows for less than $1/min!
DONT LOWER PRICE JUST BECAUSE IT'S SLOW! 99.9% of the time the guys with money just aren't on and lowering the price might get a few extra cheapskates to go private for a min or two, but it's never worth it. Value yourself enough to save it for somebody willing to pay what you want.
Since raising my rates, I always meet the daily goal quicker, sometimes less than an hour!
MissKatie
02-06-2012, 04:40 AM
Bumping
Just raised my rate again on sm 6.99 exclusive. Made more last night than i ever have there. DON'T BE CHEAP! THEY WILL AND SHOULD PAY!!
HaydenBlue
02-10-2012, 12:02 PM
Bumping to keep this alive!
Since posting this thread I've raised my cam rates a full $1. I'm at $4.50/$4.70 now. My privates are much longer and my customers are generally more polite, less demanding and I'm getting more fetish guys, which is awesome! Once I move and can get the internet speed I want I will raise them again but I'm doing good for the moment.
Also to note, I'm seeing more girls on SM with $1 per minute gold shows - how cool is that?!
CinnimonKiss
02-10-2012, 03:22 PM
Yes! the last night i worked i doubled what i normally make in the same amount of time. Gunna keep raisin it every week or so ;D
PrincessWorld
02-10-2012, 03:47 PM
It's been one week since I raised it from 3.99/4.99 to 4.99/5.99 and I think I need to tell ya all the girls here it works! No complaints from my regulars at all. Some of them even lift their daily limit in order to stay longer. So girls definitely Raise Your Rates NOW! Seems Streamate members dont really care about money lol
SweetPinkCupcake
02-10-2012, 04:04 PM
I think this thread should keep on bumping, lol, I love this thread .. I feel like it really DID change lots of models' perspectives on cam prices, and trains members not to be cheapos.
I myself was staying at 3.99/4.99, and felt self conscious of raising my prices because my boobies are only a 32B. How dumb of me. I give excellent shows and my bra size should not matter. I was going to wait to raise them until my breast augmentation, but I went ahead and I raised them to 4.99/5.99 upon asking several girls' opinions, and I have to say I am quite happy. So don't think low of yourself!
Fridays
02-10-2012, 06:12 PM
:bump:
crispy
02-11-2012, 01:14 PM
ok im gonna do a doller bump on each end now that im offering phone. ill let you know how it goes. ive been following this for a while now. :)
AF camgirl
02-12-2012, 06:57 PM
Higher rates = longer privates IMHO. I have raised it my rates 3x since this thread started and I'm getting better results each time!
ElianaIsis
02-12-2012, 09:57 PM
Raised mine after being off for a bit. Got better internet, more toys and better lighting so it's time!
HaydenBlue
02-14-2012, 11:44 AM
ba-bump. How is everyone doing since they raised their rates??? Please share!
Cam_chick
02-14-2012, 01:07 PM
Fantastic! I had a gold show today that was $5 for 5 minutes and I didn't think I was gonna make it, then suddenly a guy tipped $40 in the last minute to get it going! That's my highest tip ever so far, so exciting =D
I'm making about the same hourly rate but with less effort and less dirt bags whining at me, it's awesome :]
Lovelyx
02-14-2012, 02:22 PM
Hi there, I just login like for 30 minutes this afternoon with the Encoder, just to see how things goes using it since I never had use it. Well, I didn't get any pvt (wasn't expecting them either) my rates are currently at $3.49 premiun - $4.49 exclusive. At start I wanted to charge 3.99 premium, but I do get a little delay on my broadcast on SM so for this matter I decide to put it at 3.49 premium, but I wont charge less than $3 per min/premium. Well, I didnt get pvt but traffic increase a LOT in my room using the encoder...I was a bit shock, members come to my room and talk a bit (usually without the Encoder they come in and dont say a word and leave) so :) that's something good. Will try tomorrow morning again with the Encoder, wish me Luck, I do hope to get some pvt at this new price, since I'm barely new, I dont have regulars or anything like that, so I prefer to start high price from the beginning.
SativaBlue
02-14-2012, 03:19 PM
I just started on streamate at 4.99 for private and exclusive and made 20 bucks in 4 hours.....I couldn't keep people in free chat for longer than a few seconds other than the two guys who stuck around tipping me every so often....should I have started lower or something or should I just chill the fuck out and wait it out? *frustrated*
MissKatie
02-14-2012, 03:27 PM
No hun just chill out and wait. SM is like that. As you get regulars and your stars raise you will get people staying longer. DON'T LOWER YOUR RATES!!! It's not your price, it's your newness xx
SativaBlue
02-14-2012, 04:23 PM
No hun just chill out and wait. SM is like that. As you get regulars and your stars raise you will get people staying longer. DON'T LOWER YOUR RATES!!! It's not your price, it's your newness xx
That's crazy, I thought newness would be a good thing :/
Thank you for the reassurance though...I've been getting a slooooow start at this for sure.
AF camgirl
02-14-2012, 06:51 PM
That's crazy, I thought newness would be a good thing :/
Thank you for the reassurance though...I've been getting a slooooow start at this for sure.
Hang in there! Newness does give you a bit of an advantage, but like Katie said, you gotta get your stars raised before you can expect good traffic. Make sure to remind them during the private to rate you once finished (if they let you know they are about to leave).
SM is for sure a slow site. Lots a traffic, but it isn't a social setting. Most of my first privates were guys who popped in my room or weren't chatting.
If they ask you how long you have been on the site (usually they find you under new models) tell them "oh, xxx days/weeks; but I'm not new to camming". Don't drop any site names. You just want to let them know you aren't naive and won't be con'd into doing shit for free/cheap.
PurpleSkye
02-14-2012, 07:46 PM
I've contacted support to raise my rates. Currently at $3.99 and $4.99, but willing to try bump them up $1! I have HD, sound, english speaking. Will let you know how it goes!
DEUCESWILD
02-14-2012, 08:32 PM
I just raised mine by $1 no warning or gradual increase. Traffic and privates were about the same, however I started making more because I was charging more for the same amount of time. Most didn't complain, however I had one regular ask "hey did you raise your rate?" But he still took me private and spent even more than he usually does. Think of it this way, you will start to get higher end clientele instead of all the cheapos. Usually it's the cheapos that complain and they were only looking to spend a few bucks anyway. I may wait a little bit longer in between privates but I'm doing less work and making more
ElianaIsis
02-14-2012, 08:41 PM
The raise has been nice. When guys say "you're expensive" I just refer to my 5 star rating and that I'm worth every penny. My guys agree! XOXO
TXCamgirl
02-14-2012, 10:48 PM
I never had to raise my rates cuz I started out at 3.99$/4.99$ from day one. It's nice getting a 30 minute exclusive and netting over 50$ :) Luv it.
CinnimonKiss
02-15-2012, 11:56 AM
:bump:
:iloveyou:
Lovelyx
02-15-2012, 01:59 PM
Well Girls :) I think the raise prices really does work. I even increase my price on livejasmin, I work on NON-Nude category Hot Flirt there, I was charging $1.99 for the fact that I don't masturbate or get full nude or anything like that...I decide to increase it, and I'm currently charging $2.99 on Non-Nude, at first I was a bit scared that I may not get any private's but surprise surprise...I AM getting privates with this price!, no member complain at all (except one regular that ask me why it was so expensive, and I answer to him, because I have good rating, HD, speak english well, and provide a very erotic show without hardcore) and he like think of it twice, and even left the room...but in like 5 minutes he did came back and without sayin hi or anything pvt chat me for 15 minutes at this price ^.^ after the pvt he gave me 5 star and post a nice cute review on my wall.
I know this tread is related most to Streamate, but we are working on several webcam sites, and since the main subject is increase your price....Girls, go for it and increase your price now! don't be affraid, I was, if a guy wants to pvt chat with you he will paid whatever you cost, don't be cheap you worth the money if you have the look and provide a good show.
Cheers :)
Incantatious
02-15-2012, 02:13 PM
I am NEVER going back...
EVER.
I raised my prices to something like $3.99 for premium, and $4.99 for exclusive, going from seeing Fridays original thread.
And I had LONGER privates and MORE exclusives.
NOW, I am at:
$4.89 per minute premium chat
$4.99 per minute exclusive chat
And... yeah... fucking AMAZING... I've NEVER before had so many privates that last so LONG.
I have also reeled in my biggest whale who spent well over a hundred in just one session on me since I hitched up my prices.
I am now convinced that guys with the MOST money are more than happy to pay for us and stay longer because they have the money to spend.
They aren't put off.
I know I keep saying this, but I'm honestly stunned that I do so well without the encoder.
If you raise those prices you won't even have the time of day to consider if you're worth it or not. You'll simply be too busy... 'gasming CASH out of your pussy. <3
DO IT!
raise prices bb...
MOAR bb...
a little more bb...
OHHHHHHHHH fuck yesssshhhhbbbb
;D
MissKatie
02-15-2012, 06:09 PM
Raise your exclusive price hun.. what's the point of having those two at almost exactly the same rate? lol xx
SativaBlue
02-15-2012, 06:26 PM
Raise your exclusive price hun.. what's the point of having those two at almost exactly the same rate? lol xx
If that's the case should I drop my private down to 3.99? I don't have the option to go any higher than 4.99 for some reason
MissKatie
02-15-2012, 06:35 PM
No you have to email SM support to ask them to raise it for you - you can ask them to set it to any level up to 9.99 then set it down to whatever you want.
ElianaIsis
02-15-2012, 06:44 PM
Katie you can change up to 10 times per day total. I just emailed support a few days ago to raise my rates and they emailed back approving it, but did not physically change it for me. I had to go in and do it.
MissKatie
02-15-2012, 06:58 PM
Ahh cool. They did it for me and I was only able to change it the next day, but that was a few months ago.
ElianaIsis
02-15-2012, 07:05 PM
I think like all SM model services it depends who you get responding haha.
crispy
02-16-2012, 10:01 PM
ok soive only worked one day so far after raising my rates, but ill tell ya it really does seem to be true about the quality of guys. i had an hour long pvt and a 15 minute exlcusive. both were fantastic gentleman. i cant imagine paying that for a cam girl but im heavily tattooed and unique and have hd and use phone so goddamn it im worth it and goddamn it they are paying! thanks for this thread! xo
AF camgirl
02-16-2012, 11:07 PM
I can't update, because i have been sick all week and unwilling to cam. (I'm a walking, man sounding, snot factory.... wait, could that be a niche?) Maybe I should make a video of myself singing smelly cat naked!
I do have to say, while I'm S0o0O glad to see all the support and excitement, I'm still seeing LOTS of cheap gold shows... which is the main hot button. Now, I don't know many of your performer names, and I only get on late, so please don't think I'm singling anyone out.
Here is the prices for all the shows i noticed tonight:
29079
Average above is appox. 0.58/min ..... WTH ladies~?!
I also did a google video search for one of the infamous cheap gold show models and the top result from XXXbunker.com was "hardcore pornstar xxxxxx $1 gold show" and the show was approx. 8mins.
LaurenAus
02-16-2012, 11:12 PM
^best post of the night hahahahaha
Busygirl
02-16-2012, 11:30 PM
.............
Fridays
02-17-2012, 07:19 AM
I know some of the ladies who are on this forum still offer " cheap" gold shows...
It breaks my heart lol....
If ,after reading all these threads, they still go this route....... we can do nothing about it...
And now, taxes on top of it LOL...
I want to yell... Im holding it in....
Lovelyx
02-17-2012, 07:33 AM
There are always gona be cheap girls and cheap shows....the main reason is, when those girls see that the traffic is slow they get desperate and go cheap to try to attract more $$$$$ another case is the fact of thinking 'If I'm cheap, I will get lots of pvt and I wont have competence with the luxury girls' wrong...you wont have more pvt because of been cheap, you will only attract guys without credits in your room 'hey bb show show show' 'hey slut...put on doggy' and lots of minute guys pvt asking for extreme hardcore so they can record the performer and upload the video to some tube site. I change my mind, if someone is gonna record me he will have to paid not less than $3 per minute, and we all know that guys who are good expenser's rarely will record you. Remember, you are what you worth, and if you're cheap you will only attract crap of members.
TXCamgirl
02-17-2012, 09:12 AM
I commonly do gold shows for 3$ for 7 minutes and sometimes if they piss me off I will raise it to 5$ for 7 minutes. I know that is not the lowest end of the cheap scale but I do hit my goal almost everytime and it works for me. I don't think 3$ per guy is that horrible IMO. I only have 2-3 hours a night to hustle so whatever gets me to my goal in that time is what I am going to do.
However, I will not go lower than 3.99$/4.99$ for my private/exclusive rates, ever.
Fridays
02-17-2012, 10:04 AM
I don't think 3$ per guy is that horrible IMO..
of course its not.. but for 1 minute, not for 7...... :P
HaydenBlue
02-17-2012, 10:35 AM
I commonly do gold shows for 3$ for 7 minutes and sometimes if they piss me off I will raise it to 5$ for 7 minutes. I know that is not the lowest end of the cheap scale but I do hit my goal almost everytime and it works for me. I don't think 3$ per guy is that horrible IMO. I only have 2-3 hours a night to hustle so whatever gets me to my goal in that time is what I am going to do.
Not directed at you TX - just a general comment:
The point is to teach them (by doing) that we are not worth $3 measly little dollars. We are not worth a Happy Meal at McD's. We are worth much, much more than that.
We are not an cheap economy deal. We are not a discount. We are not an item at a flea market that you can haggle down because you can't afford us right now.
We are living breathing women who are doing this job for the PLEASURE that THEY get out of it. We. are. a. luxury.
We are not planting rose bushes for them or doing some boring run-of-the-mill daily task, we are here for their sexual gratification.
If they don't like your high prices they can kick rocks or save their money like grown men and come back and spend time with us.
I see nothing but perks to raising prices:
1) You make your goal in a shorter amount of time.
2) You give off a sense of value, you FEEL more valuable, and men find you more desirable.
3) The men you attract is of higher caliber. We all treat cheap things as disposable and like trash. If it breaks, you can buy a new one right? because "oh it was just $3". And for US - that attitude is wrong. Thus why cheap prices attract nasty men: "Stupid whore, show me your pussy."
I just raised my prices on MyGirlFund yesterday. "Crazy" high - most videos are around $35 - $50. I hit my daily cam goal doing nothing but selling videos. I was making nothing or next to nothing when I was giving myself away for "deals" or "all of my content for $15". One of the guys who spent on me yesterday? Came back again this morning and bought more videos from me and wants to work out a plan to drop regular $ on me so I can go out and buy new shoes, toys, etc.
By coming and and saying you are expensive you immediately put out that "attractive pull" - men especially want something that is just out of their reach. Lots of people don't have endless amounts of money to spend with todays economy. So by upping your prices you have given them "the chase".
By lowering yourself you are giving it all to them (basically).
I kind of went off in a rant there but bottom line:
In 99% of people's minds - they want quality. They treat you (or the object) nicer. And quality is perceived to go hand in hand with high prices.
And also to point out something that fridays said,
If this was a peep show, a face-to-face show in RL? Would you let me, or any of those gross men watch you for $3??? for 7 long minutes? Why not double or triple that price? We all know they can afford it! Just because we are behind the comfort of a computer doesn't make it any different.
amberose
02-17-2012, 11:33 AM
Just a hypothetical question for everyone here:
I completely understand the reasoning's behind charging higher prices and I think that it's a positive trend.
However, what if someone actually makes more money when they charge lower prices? I have heard a few girls claim this.
One might argue they are "devaluing" themselves, but if they actually make more per hour and their customers are good, do you still have reason to believe this is "bad" (besides potentially driving down prices for others)?
HaydenBlue
02-17-2012, 11:45 AM
Just a hypothetical question for everyone here:
I completely understand the reasoning's behind charging higher prices and I think that it's a positive trend.
However, what if someone actually makes more money when they charge lower prices? I have heard a few girls claim this.
One might argue they are "devaluing" themselves, but if they actually make more per hour and their customers are good, do you still have reason to believe this is "bad" (besides potentially driving down prices for others)?
Yes, two points.
1) Low prices silently tells guys that we aren't worth the higher price they should be paying. Again, we are a luxery. It's not just about us - it's about the customers and our industry as a whole. We should not ever, ever be cheap or give out prices. It breeds cheapness and a desperate air. You are saying "Hey! I'm cheap, here's your deal!" Not acceptable IMO. Also, pirating is easier for men because we are making ourselves easier and more available to them. $2 gold shows? A guy could go through and record 10 of them and only be spending $20 max - not even busting his daily limit.
2) Unless these people have really, really loyal regulars/big spenders they will be doing twice or triple the amount of work/pussy banging to reach their goal.
2 models have a goal of $100. One charges $5 per minute. The other charges $2 per minute. 99% of the time the second, $2 model will have to work harder and take more privates to reach her goal than the $5 model.
Whats that line? Work smarter, not harder.
Lovelyx
02-17-2012, 11:58 AM
Just a hypothetical question for everyone here:
I completely understand the reasoning's behind charging higher prices and I think that it's a positive trend.
However, what if someone actually makes more money when they charge lower prices? I have heard a few girls claim this.
One might argue they are "devaluing" themselves, but if they actually make more per hour and their customers are good, do you still have reason to believe this is "bad" (besides potentially driving down prices for others)?
Well Amber, I cannot speak for the others girls but, I will speak for my experience and what I saw each day on camsites. For my point of view, I had increase my price everywhere, before I was 'cheap' and stay been cheap for a few months, well comparing before and now with higher prices I can said I get less pvt but longer ones, before I get plenty pvt but very short (no more than 6 minutes) and at the end of the day, I'm making more money now with less and longer pvt's than with lots and short pvt at cheap price's. Another thing I had figure out, 'topmodels' those girls that are always in pvt always, they don't charge low prices none of them...all those topmodels charge no less than $3.99 . So, think about it, if having lower prices makes a girl earn more, why they are not topmodels or are even always in pvt chat (they spent plenty of time in free chat).
AF camgirl
02-17-2012, 01:47 PM
Hypothetical answer here (and this is really the smart ass in shinning thought):
What if these girls who "claim to do well with lower prices" have lower standard then you? What if they consider $25/hr doing well-is that the same for you? Probably not. If they are comfortable accepting multiple short privates in one hour, versus waiting (and I say waiting, because with higher prices, as said b4, there aren't as many but they are longer) it out for a nice, long, slow moving, less demanding private with a REAL gentleman... is that the same in your book?
I think I'm starting to ramble... so here's my point
I don't wanna do a TON of quickies where by the time my panties hit the floor I have 30 secs to get dressed again. I'm wasting more time getting dressed then I am making money. That ENERGY wasted!
If they are comfortable making "more" money with quickies then more power to them! I'm not sure they are giving the price increase a real chance. IDK.
TheBrownFox
02-18-2012, 03:39 AM
It breaks my heart too seeing topics like "$3 GOLD for 20 minutes of deepthroat, pussy play, anal, and dp." Then you see the model getting topless when she's halfway to the show. Then that's when you see a bunch of retarded comments like "Mmmm, nice. Let's see ya suck them titties, gurl"..."Nice tits...how bout showin da ass too??"...etc.
No, I'm not "hating." In fact, it's the opposite. I feel bad for some of these girls, and I just get a little sad seeing my fellow cam girls in this kind of situation where they're getting like $17.50 THEIR CUT for "I do it all!" gold shows full of rude, bossy, picky/never-satisfied guys. That plus the fact that those guys will probably be watching a recorded video of that ONE show over and over.....
But what do I know? For some people, $17.50 earned in one show may actually be a big deal. I consider myself a private show kinda girl instead, but if I was gonna do a gold show I'd definitely price it so it's AT LEAST $1/min. ($5 GOLD for 5 minutes, $10 GOLD for 10 minutes, etc.), and I'd certainly wanna get more than $17.50 MY CUT out of it.
Fridays
02-18-2012, 07:21 AM
just yesterday I was trying a $12 for 10 gold show..
so here comes someone telling me "
u should try $8 for 10... it will get u more gold.. why dont u try that"
and I told him " if you have 8, you have 10.. and if u have 10, u have 12"
what did he say after that? Not sure and I wasnt paying attention.
I got my point across, I did my part.
MissKatie
02-18-2012, 04:33 PM
I wish we could do something like this for AW girls too... there are still SO many UK and US girls charging way too fucking little, like less than £1 a minute OH MY GOD WHAT ARE YOU THINKING???!!! I want to pm them all and tell them to raise their price. There is NO good reason why any girl on any site should be charging less than the price of a burger to show her BODY, insert god knows what into where, while acting as spunk material for guys that would never dare approach them in real life!
Fridays
02-19-2012, 07:37 AM
wait.. MissKatie.. u want us to charge more than a burger?
Thats unheard of...
How dare you??????? :D
Fridays
02-19-2012, 07:39 AM
wait.. MissKatie.. u want us to charge more than a burger?
Thats unheard of...
How dare you??????? :D
this is so funny cause the other day I was trying to think what can $10 buy you in the NY area ..
not much...
Lovelyx
02-19-2012, 08:52 AM
Let put this as an true life example, regarding why a model should raise her prices:
Model A, she charges $1.99 per minute of premium, at 35% she gets in reality 0.69 cents per minute of private show.
Model B, she charges $3.99 per minute of premium, at 35% she gets in reality $1.39 dollar per minute of private show.
Now, lets imagine Model A and Model B both put online on SM for 4 hours in a day, since Model A is cheaper she will
get more short pvt's. Let's say
Model A in 4 hours got, 10 pvt's premium shows, lasting all of them 8 minutes (usually is less at this price,
but less imagine all her pvt last 8 minutes).
0.69 X 80 minutes = $55 dollars.
Model B in 4 hours got 5 pvt's premium shows, lasting all of them 10 minutes (usually more, but to paint the example
more closer to model A).
1.39 X 50 minutes = 69 dollars.
Now at the end of the day who work more minutes and earn less??? Model A of course. And who work less and earn more?
Model B. So, now think to yourself, which one do you want to be?? Model A with plenty of short's pvt or model B with less
pvt's but higher earning???
AF camgirl
02-19-2012, 06:21 PM
Let put this as an true life example, regarding why a model should raise her prices:
Model A, she charges $1.99 per minute of premium, at 35% she gets in reality 0.69 cents per minute of private show.
Model B, she charges $3.99 per minute of premium, at 35% she gets in reality $1.39 dollar per minute of private show.
Now, lets imagine Model A and Model B both put online on SM for 4 hours in a day, since Model A is cheaper she will
get more short pvt's. Let's say
Model A in 4 hours got, 10 pvt's premium shows, lasting all of them 8 minutes (usually is less at this price,
but less imagine all her pvt last 8 minutes).
0.69 X 80 minutes = $55 dollars.
Model B in 4 hours got 5 pvt's premium shows, lasting all of them 10 minutes (usually more, but to paint the example
more closer to model A).
1.39 X 50 minutes = 69 dollars.
Now at the end of the day who work more minutes and earn less??? Model A of course. And who work less and earn more?
Model B. So, now think to yourself, which one do you want to be?? Model A with plenty of short's pvt or model B with less
pvt's but higher earning???
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Thank you so much! I really didn't want to have to do the leg work to prove our points, so THANK YOU for doing it so well!
I will add that at the $1.99/min price I was actually averaging 4-6min privates, so your numbers are high. And at $3.99/min I average 10-15min privates.
Regardless, a $14 difference x 5 days of work = $70 more!