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PixiieGirl
04-09-2020, 02:13 PM
I’m gonna raise mine 0.5 each on Sunday (new week lol) - I have my goal for where I need to get to to ensure I match my indie earning per minute, was gonna wait till I move - but stuck here till lock down is over & fuck t my streams nicer with my new laptop so why not!

caramelcraze
04-13-2020, 12:03 AM
Raised my phone rate by $1 per minute and not only am I getting new customers, I'm having longer calls! Yay! :D

PixiieGirl
04-13-2020, 04:54 AM
I’m gonna raise mine 0.5 each on Sunday (new week lol) - I have my goal for where I need to get to to ensure I match my indie earning per minute, was gonna wait till I move - but stuck here till lock down is over & fuck t my streams nicer with my new laptop so why not!

I did it - and yesterday really sucked. However, it was a contest & easter - so Im going to give it a full week. It was nice seeing the higher earnings for the few shows I did get - so gonna give it longer

gbjenna
04-13-2020, 01:51 PM
I'm teetering on the decision of upping my excl rate again. I've been at 7.99/8.99 for about a month but I feel like I'm underselling my excl show at only $1 more, especially when I offer so much more in exclusive. Plus within the last month, I've invested in a brand new desktop and I've upgraded my internet to get up to 100MB upload speed, so I'm absolutely certain my stream must be miles better than it was for starters!

9.99 is the goal rate I wanted to reach by Autumn/Winter time anyway so I'm tempted to crack on and give it a shot for a week when I go back on tomorrow.

innocentindian
04-14-2020, 10:31 AM
I have only raised my prices ONCE in 5 years on Streamate, from the default up to 5.99 / 7.99

After building up a fan base, I doubled my indy rates. I knew I could raise my rates on Streamate, but I justified putting it off by thinking I need to be a HOT girl, lose weight, toned muscles, more makeup, etc. I told myself if I became fit and attractive (for my own personal reasons lol) I would raise my rates.

I read this thread again last month and finally decided, fuck it. I AM that hot girl on the inside.

Bumped up my rates to 7.99 / 9.99 and haven't looked back :D

SimoneGray
04-16-2020, 04:46 AM
^^^ this is a whole mood. The thing holding me back was also not being super hot and toned etc. But, I’ve also realised that I want to desperately crack the $100/hr barrier, and in all my years of camming I haven’t managed to do it. It’s been disheartening at times to have good % in paid, and just not see the money. It clicked today. My rates aren’t high enough to make that, no matter how good my % in paid is. Even at 100% in paid, I still wouldn’t make that $100/hr.


So....I may not be toned or super hot, body wise, but I have an ass these dudes go wild for, makeup skills that make my face pretty, and a hustle and determination to work long hours to pull it off. I’m going to jack my rates the hell up, into the realm of prestige rates, and see what that does. Historically, every time I’ve gone more expensive, the dudes have responded really well, even if it’s taken time. There’s something about one branding oneself in a prestige way, that they seem to respond to.

I’m saying all of this now because I’m remembering it from 2016, when I had my rates high and didn’t give one fuck. My confidence has definitely taken a knock over the years, and I’ve experienced some financial pressures that made it so I absolutely had to make goal no matter what, but now that pressure has eased off, so I don’t mind if it maybe takes a bit longer to make goal due to higher rates, I want rich, high paying customers and I’m going to make that happen.

Cutie101
04-16-2020, 05:28 AM
Well, there is a shit ton of super toned models and really beautiful, magazine- like, who charge pennies. If it would be by the way I see myself comparing to them, I'd never charge as much as I charge, because I charge higher than them (still not high enough, because, just like you, i wanna get toned, get fake boobs, etc, to charge more).
In the same time, there are lots of plus size models who charge night prices and bank. I still can't to it because... confidence.

So, in the end, all comes to self confidence. You can even charge $20/min no matter the looks, it's all about confidence and personal charm.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
04-17-2020, 09:05 AM
I gave myself another raise this week. I guess it's like a silent raise because I don't like listing prices. �� Basically a few days ago I quoted someone a price that was $50 higher than usual. He was like "cool..where do I pay?" It got me thinking about my pricing and realized it had been too long since I last upped my rates. My tech is way to good to be charging like it's 1999 and I'm using AOL dialup. :)

minibagel
04-18-2020, 02:01 PM
Raised my exclusive rate up one dollar to $12.99/min. No one even noticed. $13.99 soon then ��

PixiieGirl
04-18-2020, 02:29 PM
I did it - and yesterday really sucked. However, it was a contest & easter - so Im going to give it a full week. It was nice seeing the higher earnings for the few shows I did get - so gonna give it longer

glad I stuck it out! according to the rate analysis tool on SM I'm now earning a dollar extra an hour - sure it's not huge but Ive also not streamed a huge amount so, pleased asf!

minibagel
06-23-2020, 05:31 PM
raised my excl rate to the max for my account- $14.99. worked out ok for the 40 mins i was online today, expected it to be slow bc of the contest but traffic was surprisingly decent and i made $109. i’ll try back later and see how the rest of the week goes with the new rate.

MsJess
06-23-2020, 06:32 PM
raised my excl rate to the max for my account- $14.99. worked out ok for the 40 mins i was online today, expected it to be slow bc of the contest but traffic was surprisingly decent and i made $109. i’ll try back later and see how the rest of the week goes with the new rate.

way to go!!!!!! :)

moneybags
07-04-2020, 08:43 PM
I’m charging the most streamate will let me charge. So on SM it won’t let me charge more than $5.99 in exclusive on SM? I’m not the hottest bitch, but this is sex work. All sex workers deserve to make a comfortable living. It’s expensive the lap top, WiFi, make up outfits. I’m gonna charge as much as the market will bear and if I don’t get any shows I’ll bring my prices back down.

bigbum
07-04-2020, 09:06 PM
I’m charging the most streamate will let me charge. So on SM it won’t let me charge more than $5.99 in exclusive on SM? I’m not the hottest bitch, but this is sex work. All sex workers deserve to make a comfortable living. It’s expensive the lap top, WiFi, make up outfits. I’m gonna charge as much as the market will bear and if I don’t get any shows I’ll bring my prices back down.

you need to contact SM and ask for a rate increase if you want to go above $5.99. you can for sure go higher if you ask . usually after you have been on the site for a few weeks/ months ect.

clio
07-08-2020, 09:44 AM
I haven't been camming long, but I've had to contact SM three times now to increase my rate as they only increased it two dollars at a time. I've gone from 5.39/5.99 to 6.99/7.99 to 8.99/9.99 and I just increased to 9.99/11.99 (we'll see how that goes tonight!) I've only been on for a month so maybe it's too early to tell, but no matter what my rate is, I always seem to hover around 90-100/hr. That means I'm spending a greater percentage in free chat, which I'm not a fan of, because a lot of guys will chat my ear off and not spend anything. Of course I block guys who routinely do this, but there seems to be no shortage of cheap guys who want to talk. Talking is actually the most exhausting part of this job!

caramelcraze
07-08-2020, 10:20 PM
Upgraded laptops and bought a new mic for SM/clips and also have another that can handle a few sites at a time. Raised my rate on SM and will be doing so on the rest of my cam sites as well very soon.
I'm excited: This is the first pay raise i've really given myself for live cams in a while. I plan on raising it by another $1 per minute on my live stream sites in a couple weeks, then another $1 per minute the following month, and bumping up my custom clip rate by a couple bucks per minute permanently. I mean cost of living is going up in my area, so I might as well give myself the raise.

SuperPookie
07-09-2020, 10:06 AM
I raised my texting rates from $1 per minute to $2 per minute & have raised my Skype show rates so that the minimum amount for a bulk package is $3 per minute for 1 hour. The rates for shorter shows now go up to $5 per minute depending on the length. I think I was really underselling myself before.

clio
07-10-2020, 06:15 AM
Does anyone have any insight on what to charge on indie sites relative to your rate on SM? I don't want customers from SM finding me elsewhere at a cheaper rate, but I don't think guys on indie sites would pay what I charge for SM exclusive (currently 11.99/min). Keep in mind that I don't want to drive any traffic to these sites, if I'm going to be driving traffic anywhere, it will be towards my own site. I want to try indie sites to see if I could tap into other audiences. Any ideas on how I should approach this?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
07-10-2020, 06:44 AM
Does anyone have any insight on what to charge on indie sites relative to your rate on SM? I don't want customers from SM finding me elsewhere at a cheaper rate, but I don't think guys on indie sites would pay what I charge for SM exclusive (currently 11.99/min). Keep in mind that I don't want to drive any traffic to these sites, if I'm going to be driving traffic anywhere, it will be towards my own site. I want to try indie sites to see if I could tap into other audiences. Any ideas on how I should approach this?

Think about what you make after the camsite fees and then add a few dollars. That way you aren't selling yourself short and it won't effect your bottom line. That's one way to do it. And there's block show pricing.

Miss_ShaSha
07-12-2020, 07:56 AM
Just raised SM rates from $7.99 pvt & $8.99 excl to $8.99 pvt & $9.99 excl since I have an incredibly new system. The stream quality is outstanding and I think the rates are fair for the quality.

Let's see how this week goes. I'm aiming for $1k+ so this will be interesting.

PixiieGirl
07-12-2020, 01:58 PM
Im thinking about upping my skype rates - i never have and Im experienced with a great system now - I might do so in august (and if I lose shows, my content game is killing it so I can afford to). That of course will mean upping my SM rates to so I make the same amount from both skype and streaming per minute ahah

caramelcraze
07-12-2020, 08:18 PM
Im thinking about upping my skype rates - i never have and Im experienced with a great system now - I might do so in august (and if I lose shows, my content game is killing it so I can afford to). That of course will mean upping my SM rates to so I make the same amount from both skype and streaming per minute ahah
when i upped my skype rates for the first time about a year(ish) ago, i did lose some customers and initially took a bit of a hit BUT i did end up slowly getting new customers who bought longer shows on average. Took a couple months for that crowd to find me and really start spending, but my earnings did increase noticeably as a result. So don't get discouraged if it's slower to begin with; higher spenders will find you and happily pay your rate!

PixiieGirl
07-13-2020, 02:38 AM
when i upped my skype rates for the first time about a year(ish) ago, i did lose some customers and initially took a bit of a hit BUT i did end up slowly getting new customers who bought longer shows on average. Took a couple months for that crowd to find me and really start spending, but my earnings did increase noticeably as a result. So don't get discouraged if it's slower to begin with; higher spenders will find you and happily pay your rate!
Tbh I don’t really have many Skype regulars! Most of my income even before content got good was from SM so i guess why not? Lol

caramelcraze
07-13-2020, 02:57 AM
Tbh I don’t really have many Skype regulars! Most of my income even before content got good was from SM so i guess why not? Lol

ah ok! Definitely go for it then! Most of my skype/discord regs stayed with me even after the increase which just proved to me that i should have been charging more all along lol

Cutie101
07-13-2020, 01:11 PM
I realise I've never been able to attract nor keep skype regulars. In almost 10 years of camming. That bad I suck at Indy :))))))

caramelcraze
07-13-2020, 07:48 PM
I realise I've never been able to attract nor keep skype regulars. In almost 10 years of camming. That bad I suck at Indy :))))))
I switched to primarily indie a few years ago after ending up with some chronic health issues and haven't looked back. It's less stressful for me and I try to keep somewhat regular hours on a bunch of different sites. It's not easier than live stream style camming by any means and has its own unique struggles, but it has definitely reduced the amount of anxiety I have about going to work for some reason and overall I've made more yearly. desperately been trying to get back into more live streaming on a consistent schedule, but having to be my cam personality for hours at a time when I'm online instead of 10 minutes here and an hour there drains me so much faster and as a result i end up working fewer hours/making less. it took some doing to build up an indie following, but it definitely can be done!

Cutie101
07-14-2020, 03:33 PM
I switched to primarily indie a few years ago after ending up with some chronic health issues and haven't looked back. It's less stressful for me and I try to keep somewhat regular hours on a bunch of different sites. It's not easier than live stream style camming by any means and has its own unique struggles, but it has definitely reduced the amount of anxiety I have about going to work for some reason and overall I've made more yearly. desperately been trying to get back into more live streaming on a consistent schedule, but having to be my cam personality for hours at a time when I'm online instead of 10 minutes here and an hour there drains me so much faster and as a result i end up working fewer hours/making less. it took some doing to build up an indie following, but it definitely can be done!

Well, what you're saying, is what I am aiming for. I am tired and burned out of camming and I'd give anything to be able to succeed as an indie performer. I just drag myself every day to go on cam. I rather film clips or do any kind of offline work... ugh...

Miss_ShaSha
07-15-2020, 01:09 PM
Just raised SM rates from $7.99 pvt & $8.99 excl to $8.99 pvt & $9.99 excl since I have an incredibly new system. The stream quality is outstanding and I think the rates are fair for the quality.

Let's see how this week goes. I'm aiming for $1k+ so this will be interesting.

Yup, men WILL pay $9.99 a min for EXCL and tip on top of it.

This is all exclusives today with my new rate. Raise them ladies. Raise them high.

53266

Esixxx
07-16-2020, 11:15 AM
Raised my rates from 5.99/6.99 to 6.99/7.99. Been meaning to do this for a bit, but put it off

Miss_ShaSha
07-19-2020, 08:53 AM
Not only did I raise my pvt and excl rates, but I raised my GOLD menu prices and men are paying them plus regs are paying the new excl rate no problem:

53288

Raise your rates ladies. The men who pay a higher rate are better quality members. I don't have to deal with so much bullshit.

clio
07-20-2020, 05:01 PM
Not only did I raise my pvt and excl rates, but I raised my GOLD menu prices and men are paying them plus regs are paying the new excl rate no problem:

Raise your rates ladies. The men who pay a higher rate are better quality members. I don't have to deal with so much bullshit.

I just tried this last night; I raised my tit flash from $15 to $20 (because hey, my boobs are amazing!) and dudes were paying for it all the same. I also got rid of the stand up option I had for $10 because dudes asking me to stand up never seem to want to pay for anything and replaced it with a bj tease for $60, but no takers for that so far.

I have had guys complain about my rates which I guess are higher than many girls (9.99/11.99), but I also had guys complaining at 7.99/8.99. I give no fucks tho, my attitude is that I'm expensive, and I'm never going to cater cheap guys!

bigbum
07-20-2020, 08:45 PM
on SM how can girls do gold shows for 4 or 5 gold buy in... yet charge $8 or more per min for private/exclusive.
i am a bit worried gold shows might cheapen my image, cause me to receive less privates...
yet a lot of top girls run gold shows and charge high per min prices..
am i missing something here?

moneybags
07-20-2020, 10:04 PM
on SM how can girls do gold shows for 4 or 5 gold buy in... yet charge $8 or more per min for private/exclusive.
i am a bit worried gold shows might cheapen my image, cause me to receive less privates...
yet a lot of top girls run gold shows and charge high per min prices..
am i missing something here?


Yeah I haven’t done the gold shows yet? I have lots of fun ideas. I’ll probably start with a shower show and see how it goes. I’d like to do gold shows for actual shows.
Like maybe naughty nurse, office slut, etc. like themes sets.


i raised my rates to the highest I could without e-mailing support. Clients didn’t complain. I think they figured I’d raise my rates in time.

clio
07-20-2020, 10:12 PM
on SM how can girls do gold shows for 4 or 5 gold buy in... yet charge $8 or more per min for private/exclusive.
i am a bit worried gold shows might cheapen my image, cause me to receive less privates...
yet a lot of top girls run gold shows and charge high per min prices..
am i missing something here?


I'm not an expert here, because I'm new and have only attempted a gold show twice (first one totally flopped, second attempt exceeded expectations), but I think many girls try for gold shows when their room is relatively dead. It brings customers into your room who may or may not stay and spend after. What I did was set a 10 min countdown for a 6 min show for $6. I would start the show at $100 for a sexy striptease and at $200 offer penetration/bj. My rates are 9.99/11.99, so if I made it to $100 for 16 minutes, that would be slightly cheaper than my rate, but if I make it to $200 for 16 minutes, that would be slightly above what my rate would bring in for that amount of time.

I think that most guys who look for gold shows don't want to spend much, so they probably weren't going to get a show at my rates anyway. Offering gold shows is a way of getting *something* from the cheaper guys. Also, some guys just like the group show atmosphere and will tip in way above the minimum, so it's not like all the guys who are into gold shows are cheap.

bigbum
07-21-2020, 12:26 AM
I'm not an expert here, because I'm new and have only attempted a gold show twice (first one totally flopped, second attempt exceeded expectations), but I think many girls try for gold shows when their room is relatively dead. It brings customers into your room who may or may not stay and spend after. What I did was set a 10 min countdown for a 6 min show for $6. I would start the show at $100 for a sexy striptease and at $200 offer penetration/bj. My rates are 9.99/11.99, so if I made it to $100 for 16 minutes, that would be slightly cheaper than my rate, but if I make it to $200 for 16 minutes, that would be slightly above what my rate would bring in for that amount of time.

I think that most guys who look for gold shows don't want to spend much, so they probably weren't going to get a show at my rates anyway. Offering gold shows is a way of getting *something* from the cheaper guys. Also, some guys just like the group show atmosphere and will tip in way above the minimum, so it's not like all the guys who are into gold shows are cheap.

yes that makes sense.. but what about regular clients who do shows and pay your normal rate.. and then all of the sudden realize they can just do a gold show with you for $4 instead of $80
also when people give away videos.. when some people already paid full price for the video and then all of the sudden you are giving them away?
you know what i mean?
idk maybe guys dont really care.. or do not read that far into things.. but id be pissed
if i spent $15 on a vid.. then suddenly its free with a gold show... or in a bundle...

or if i spent $$ for private chat, then suddenly its $4 for a gold show.

maybe ill try it out sometime.. just do not want to loose my customer base who are willing to pay
i already have too many people lately going private chat instead of exclusive and expecting the same show.. some how..
but then again my price is not where near $9.99 a min so maybe they wouldnt even care.

caramelcraze
07-21-2020, 12:57 AM
yes that makes sense.. but what about regular clients who do shows and pay your normal rate.. and then all of the sudden realize they can just do a gold show with you for $4 instead of $80
I've found that the customers who are willing to buy 1 on 1 shows do so for a reason. They are paying for our undivided attention and something just for them.
Some guys don't want/can't afford a personalized show and opt for whatever is being offered that strikes their fancy and fits their budget. another thing: Some guys have the "try before you buy" mentality. They want to see a bit of what you can do before paying the higher price for something that actually suits their wants/needs. I have had many guys immediately take me exclusive after a show because they either want more or want something i wasn't offering in the gold show.

If you're having issues with guys expecting an exclusive show when paying for a private, I recommend putting what you do in each in your room topic as well as on your profile. If a guy takes you private and asks for something you only do in exclusive, flat out tell them it's something you only do in exclusive and, if its just you two, tell them you'd be more than happy to go exclusive immediately. usually guys switch over and rarely have I had complaints.

bigbum
07-21-2020, 01:06 AM
I've found that the customers who are willing to buy 1 on 1 shows do so for a reason. They are paying for our undivided attention and something just for them.
Some guys don't want/can't afford a personalized show and opt for whatever is being offered that strikes their fancy and fits their budget. another thing: Some guys have the "try before you buy" mentality. They want to see a bit of what you can do before paying the higher price for something that actually suits their wants/needs. I have had many guys immediately take me exclusive after a show because they either want more or want something i wasn't offering in the gold show.

If you're having issues with guys expecting an exclusive show when paying for a private, I recommend putting what you do in each in your room topic as well as on your profile. If a guy takes you private and asks for something you only do in exclusive, flat out tell them it's something you only do in exclusive and, if its just you two, tell them you'd be more than happy to go exclusive immediately. usually guys switch over and rarely have I had complaints.


that is amazing advice. i am shocked to hear that they would switch over.. i always assumed they would leave. so i usually just push for tips for requests. unless its a fetish

gbjenna
07-23-2020, 03:30 PM
I've recently signed up for an indie camming site.. Is there anyone who charges high rates on SM and charges the same rate or similar on indie? I've been having a peak through some of the profiles and the general rates seem to be around $4-5min.

My main reasons for wondering is because honestly, I don't really want my customers to google me or follow a link from Twitter, only to find me elsewhere a for a considerably cheaper rate. Plus, if I was in their shoes and I found the cam girl I'd been paying for, for however long, somewhere else advertising at pretty much half the price, I think I'd feel a bit ripped off? My rates on SM are 7.99-9.99.

caramelcraze
07-23-2020, 05:21 PM
I've recently signed up for an indie camming site.. Is there anyone who charges high rates on SM and charges the same rate or similar on indie? I've been having a peak through some of the profiles and the general rates seem to be around $4-5min.

My main reasons for wondering is because honestly, I don't really want my customers to google me or follow a link from Twitter, only to find me elsewhere a for a considerably cheaper rate. Plus, if I was in their shoes and I found the cam girl I'd been paying for, for however long, somewhere else advertising at pretty much half the price, I think I'd feel a bit ripped off? My rates on SM are 7.99-9.99.

I hope this makes sense, but i'll take a swing at it:
I've tried both having similar rates on indie/live cam and charging more on live cam and less on indie sites. what I settled on was slightly lower rates on indie sites and slightly higher rates on live cam. the reason being, my take home percentage on live sites is far less than on indie sites. BUT (and this is a big but) I make sure my take home on indie sites per minute in dollars is actually higher than my take home on live cam per minute even at the lower rate & I have a minimum time block they must buy. Most guys who find my indie sites after using anther platform are happy for the dollar or so off per minute & still spend roughly the same as they would on a live cam site (they feel like they're getting a steal after being charged more on live sites) & I end up making more. at the same time the price point is still obtainable for the kind of indie clientele I cater to on listing sites (which is a major portion of my income), so in the end it's a win win all the way around!

I'm a numbers person, so bear with me: If you were charging $8 per minute for a 1on1 show via a live site but are taking home 35% and can't enforce a minimum time, you're guaranteed $2.80 per minute. So, basically you're clearing $28 for a 10 minute show (or $168 for a 1 hr long PPM show & if they dip out early or they buy a block at a discounted rate, you're potentially making even less). In contrast, if you charge $5.00 per minute on an indie site at 85% take home, you're making $3.82 per minute and able to enforce any time minimum you please. If you were to enforce a 10 minute minimum, that's $38.20 in your pocket, even if they leave after 5 minutes. That's $229.20 per hour of pre paid show purchases. Even at the $3 per minute discount, you're making $61.20 more per hour... and usually they buy more time (even though they're spending less) which just means more $ in your pocket
How I felt writing the last paragraph:
https://i.imgflip.com/2x2jm9.jpg

Final thought: In the many years I've cammed on both PPM and indie sites, the only guy who has ever asked me about the price difference quickly became outraged when i told him what percentage the live cam site he found me on pays out & has been a die hard indie customer ever since.

sexysusie
07-23-2020, 08:18 PM
I've recently signed up for an indie camming site.. Is there anyone who charges high rates on SM and charges the same rate or similar on indie? I've been having a peak through some of the profiles and the general rates seem to be around $4-5min.

My main reasons for wondering is because honestly, I don't really want my customers to google me or follow a link from Twitter, only to find me elsewhere a for a considerably cheaper rate. Plus, if I was in their shoes and I found the cam girl I'd been paying for, for however long, somewhere else advertising at pretty much half the price, I think I'd feel a bit ripped off? My rates on SM are 7.99-9.99.

When i was on SM and charging 14.99/min i was still £4 on AW and $5 indie. So literally everywhere else was cheaper but SM guys stuck to sm and i never heard a peep about it. I often think if they pay such crazy rates on SM shy dont they elseshere? Why aren't models charging much higher indie rates, but meh that's just how it is.

laurielegs
07-23-2020, 11:09 PM
When i was on SM and charging 14.99/min i was still £4 on AW and $5 indie. So literally everywhere else was cheaper but SM guys stuck to sm and i never heard a peep about it. I often think if they pay such crazy rates on SM shy dont they elseshere? Why aren't models charging much higher indie rates, but meh that's just how it is.

I've always thought we should charge what we charge, no matter what our cut is.

Very few keep their rates high on indy and it's disappointing. I've had the same experience though - I very rarely get anyone from SM finding me on Skype sites, and even when they do they often still buy on Streamate instead. I guess they are too lazy to start up skype when they have a hard dick lol, who knows. They just want to click and be done.

IvyRose
07-23-2020, 11:57 PM
I charge on indy what I charge for streamate exclusive shows, with succes (20 a min).
I work through lcms and dont get random people though, or through lcms site... all my indy clients either find me through twitter or by googling my modelname , after bigbox shows (99% of my indycusties)
I dont have tons of indy regs, but the ones i have are good paying ones

I actually only need 1 ( or 2 ) actively paying ones (active as as in multiple shows a week ) to outdo my streamate income easily.




I've recently signed up for an indie camming site.. Is there anyone who charges high rates on SM and charges the same rate or similar on indie? I've been having a peak through some of the profiles and the general rates seem to be around $4-5min.

My main reasons for wondering is because honestly, I don't really want my customers to google me or follow a link from Twitter, only to find me elsewhere a for a considerably cheaper rate. Plus, if I was in their shoes and I found the cam girl I'd been paying for, for however long, somewhere else advertising at pretty much half the price, I think I'd feel a bit ripped off? My rates on SM are 7.99-9.99.

gbjenna
07-24-2020, 10:14 AM
Thank you so much for all your detailed responses! CaramelCraze - that's me everytime I work anything out number related, I get it haha so that all made sense!

I was really surprised at what people charge, I did honestly think I'd see people charging a lot more, particularly for some of the services they're offering. I've not had many customers come from SM or one site and look for me on other sites, but I have had a few here and there. I imagine most guys probably can't be arsed to sign up on another site though as you said Laurie, but I do have a couple of regs who do long exclusives with me where I get the impression slightly from chatting to them that they have to save up for it a bit, if I was in their shoes and realised I'd been paying a lot more than necessary, I don't think I'd feel great about it.

I did consider what you've said too Ivy, that even if I got less indie customers because I charge high ish rates, the ones I do have I'll earn considerably more for than any other one shows on SM. Plus my quality of service doesn't change just because I get a higher cut either.

I'm 100% going to stick with the same rates and see how it works out, thank you everyone! xo

IvyRose
07-24-2020, 02:21 PM
Oh and a add-on: i also charged 50% roughly of my sm prices on indy when i started out. My personal experience is, either at 50% or at 100%, the ones that will add you and pay indy will do at both rates

The ones willing to spend money, and the ones that are looking for that personal connection, or just looking to play witouth that annoying moneylimit (on sm), or thr ones that want you to have 85% instead of 30/35%... those are the ones that willingly paid the same price for skype.... aka the good custies
(Another sidenote, i could prob gather more custiea on skype but had a hard year and hardly worked, year before too... so i had no freechat to pull new ones in for roughly 1.5 years now. Still skype saved my ass..... so charging the same price does not neccesarily mean only a handfull of skypecusties.... i just sucked at converting new ones, since i was not focussing on it)

I even had guys (ok they are mostly fetish sub guys) who asked me when i renewed my page and went double the price i was charging before on indy, if they could pay the ,new price too (which was a nice surprise bec i was honestly scared of having some sour faces)

Sometimes when a reg joins skype and asks for a indy discount, i can easily give him this , since they still pay high (if they would ask a 50% streamate rate i would not be so willing to do so... ) ... so in this case they feel happy and special, bec i give them a "discount";)

Youll make it work!
Just try and see what happens


Thank you so much for all your detailed responses! CaramelCraze - that's me everytime I work anything out number related, I get it haha so that all made sense!

I was really surprised at what people charge, I did honestly think I'd see people charging a lot more, particularly for some of the services they're offering. I've not had many customers come from SM or one site and look for me on other sites, but I have had a few here and there. I imagine most guys probably can't be arsed to sign up on another site though as you said Laurie, but I do have a couple of regs who do long exclusives with me where I get the impression slightly from chatting to them that they have to save up for it a bit, if I was in their shoes and realised I'd been paying a lot more than necessary, I don't think I'd feel great about it.

I did consider what you've said too Ivy, that even if I got less indie customers because I charge high ish rates, the ones I do have I'll earn considerably more for than any other one shows on SM. Plus my quality of service doesn't change just because I get a higher cut either.

I'm 100% going to stick with the same rates and see how it works out, thank you everyone! xo

IvyRose
07-24-2020, 02:42 PM
Plus my quality of service doesn't change just because I get a higher cut either.



Exactly!

laurielegs
07-24-2020, 06:33 PM
I charge on indy what I charge for streamate exclusive shows, with succes (20 a min).
I work through lcms and dont get random people though, or through lcms site... all my indy clients either find me through twitter or by googling my modelname , after bigbox shows (99% of my indycusties)
I dont have tons of indy regs, but the ones i have are good paying ones

I actually only need 1 ( or 2 ) actively paying ones (active as as in multiple shows a week ) to outdo my streamate income easily.

Imagine what would happen if every single one of us matched our Streamate rates to Indy! If the majority of us did this it would be amazing!! I really need to raise my indy rates.

SapphireXO
07-29-2020, 12:55 PM
I always raise my rate, then get worried after a 1-2 days. Then move it back down if it's slow. I stuck to it this time. Highest month I've had in 2 years. Went from 3.50/min to 3.99/min on one site. Then 2.99/min to 3.69/min on another. SUCCESS!

laurielegs
07-29-2020, 01:31 PM
Well, I'm a big chicken lol. I did raise my indy rates on all sites to 4.99 from 3.99 yesterday. Feels good to be at no less than 4.99 anywhere now.

What I really should do is match my Streamate exclusive rate which is 9.99 which I have no issues getting shows with at Streamate. (or at least $8 to match TruePrivate rates on MFC).

Why is it that guys have no problem paying that on Streamate but balk on Indy, ugh.... still trying to get my nerve up to raise to that. IvyRose you are an inspiration!

everythingiscake
07-29-2020, 11:38 PM
I upped my SkyPrivate to $9 and some manchild lost his mind. He had made a huge deal out of my cheaper rate of $4 so yeah, I knew he wasnt going to buy. I blocked him after chewing his cheap ass out. Go ahead and say it's too high for you but don't you dare insult me and call me names. What a peice of shit. $9 is cheaper than my SM price! Lol.

I found out self employment taxes are 15.3% and there is no way in hell I am looking at cock for $1 my cut. At my current income and US state tax, I will make 51% of my income. Yes, i will itemize and am looking for an accountant (help?). Now I see why so many girls take gift cards and cashapp but in reality finding a site that takes 75% of $10-$15 just makes more sense. I am sticking to it. ALL of my sites will be $10-$15 within a few weeks. I don't have a ton of regulars with the pandemic happening so i am not worried about "losing" any custies. Why do men think they should see a naked woman for free or pennies? I will never understand this entitlement to our bodies.

Also. . . I am new to camming since January. I charge $7/12 on SM and make 70+ hourly. I tripled my income after I asked for higher prices on SM, did so as soon new status was over. For those of you who balk at it. . . seriously, do it. I have less experience than most of you, dont do anal, small tits and I am rude or just plain ignore people. There is NO reason I make more than you except that I charge more. I am nervous to up my prices and I am waiting to finish my PH account and my white label site. As soon as they are done you can bet your ass I will add $2 to my SM prices.

My pricing model is simple: after taxes, how much do I want to get paid to see a cock?
What is your least favorite type of show? How much do you want to get paid after taxes to do that type of show? Charge that much.

IvyRose
07-30-2020, 12:57 AM
Well, I'm a big chicken lol. I did raise my indy rates on all sites to 4.99 from 3.99 yesterday. Feels good to be at no less than 4.99 anywhere now.

What I really should do is match my Streamate exclusive rate which is 9.99 which I have no issues getting shows with at Streamate. (or at least $8 to match TruePrivate rates on MFC).

Why is it that guys have no problem paying that on Streamate but balk on Indy, ugh.... still trying to get my nerve up to raise to that. IvyRose you are an inspiration!

Aww thanks Laurie, tbh though all credit to sw and the girls; without this place i would have never gotten the inspiration and goals that i had after discovering sw

Sometimes it helps me , if i do a big moneyraise;
( i started out on 7$ a min, than went to 10, than shortly 15, and now current 20.... no in betweens)
To fool myself a little bit. I try not to think to much about it.. i change it before my weekend off for example and get back to work with clear mind (i guess iam good in blocking this moneyfear/raise fear)

Also when doing it, it was mostly after taking vacation, or sick-period off... and, i mostly did it when i burned through a good whale (so i had only tiny custies left and no big reason for fear...... also i keep in mind that i can, if i want, leave the old custies on old price, so there is need to fear since they wont have to complain.... also i keep in mind that if i want, i can negotiate the price so still no problem)

I still have custies from 6 years back. Sometimes i notify them and keep them on old price. Sometimes i wait it out and see how they react


But i can add to this, its really a thrill to get that first new skype custie on the new price. . !