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supercharx
04-15-2021, 04:14 AM
Bumped up my excl another dollar to $16.99 and experimented with it for a week. I hit goal way faster and takes fewer transactions to get there, but I also really scare away the average customer lol. I wonder if I should lower it but none of my paying customers seem to notice or care though so..

One night I had a pvt/group where two guys wanted to pay my max $19.99/min, it only lasted 5.5 mins but I basically made a little over $75ish total. With two guys that means I made $14/min my cut!

This is super inspiring!
Sometimes "the average customer" is boring lol. I'm looking forward to giving this a try.

laurielegs
04-15-2021, 04:42 AM
I usually don't make much of anything during contests so I've been avoiding going on SM and focusing on other sites and making content.

I'm considering maxing out both private and exclusive during this next contest. Not much to lose since most of my regulars seem to have flown the coop lately, lol. Might be a fun experiment.

Miss_ShaSha
04-17-2021, 02:17 AM
I recently raised my rates from $8.99/$9.99 to $9.99/$10.99 on SM. I gave it a full week to see what was possible. This is what is possible and the guys were tipping on top of the $10.99 rate:

54722

I may have to wait a little longer for shows, but the quality of clients is ace and I happily do these fetish shows with a smile. I'm a soft Domme and rarely take off my clothes much less fuck myself with a dildo.

Raise those rates ladies. It is possible to get paid what you're worth!!!

SimoneGray
04-17-2021, 04:02 AM
That's awesome! Can I ask if you raised quite a lot in one go or did you do it steadily? It reads like you raised quite a bit at once but I appreciate if you don't want to say!

I raised right away pretty much. Id been on SM for a long time, at average rates and every time I would raise by $1 or so, I’d see results for exactly a week, and then go back to the doldrums of waiting for long hours to get shows etc. Then last year, during lockdown (my country had a hard lockdown, so no leaving the house for 5 months except for essentials) I took about 3 months just fully off cam to recover and rest etc. When I went back, I figured that all was lost anyway, none of my customers would come back and id be at the bottom placement wise, so I said fuck it, and raised all the way up in one go. I raised by about $5 each show. My thinking was that if I was going to sit on cam for ages, the shows I did get would be well paid ones. I also updated my look and made sure that whenever I was on cam, I looked sleek and elegant. I bought a wig because my hair has just never really worked for me on cam aesthetically, plus it cut down on my time to get ready. I also invested in some good looking lingerie and am working out to tone my body up. Basically, I try look like a premium product every time I’m online. I believe that this helped people buy into my rates as well.


Turns out I didn’t need to worry, those high rates somehow took off from day 1, and so far no one has complained. People have acknowledged that they are expensive, but I just treat it as you would if you were a business owner. It costs what it costs, your ability to afford it, is not my problem. This summer I think I’ll be going for another $1-2/min raise and just see how it goes. I would love to be at Max rates on SM by next year.

All of this is just what worked for me. Most of you ladies may not need to change your look or show or whatever to make high rates work, but it is also something to consider, just in case. In terms of raising, don’t be scared to do it all at once, but also keep vigilant about where your bread is buttered. Understand as well that at the beginning, you may lose income. Calculate how much of a % cut you can take, and for how long, just so that you can set your prices to a place where even if you do experience income loss for a while, you are still getting paid enough to live on etc. Stick to your guns as well. Guys can read if you are not confident with your rates. Fake it til you make it, they will buy into it.

ETA: I’ve seen models on SM who have rates of 12.99/19.99 who seldom leave private shows, so there is a lot of evidence that high rates can work. Good luck!

fetishqueen
04-17-2021, 02:24 PM
I raised right away pretty much. Id been on SM for a long time, at average rates and every time I would raise by $1 or so, I’d see results for exactly a week, and then go back to the doldrums of waiting for long hours to get shows etc. Then last year, during lockdown (my country had a hard lockdown, so no leaving the house for 5 months except for essentials) I took about 3 months just fully off cam to recover and rest etc. When I went back, I figured that all was lost anyway, none of my customers would come back and id be at the bottom placement wise, so I said fuck it, and raised all the way up in one go. I raised by about $5 each show. My thinking was that if I was going to sit on cam for ages, the shows I did get would be well paid ones. I also updated my look and made sure that whenever I was on cam, I looked sleek and elegant. I bought a wig because my hair has just never really worked for me on cam aesthetically, plus it cut down on my time to get ready. I also invested in some good looking lingerie and am working out to tone my body up. Basically, I try look like a premium product every time I’m online. I believe that this helped people buy into my rates as well.


Turns out I didn’t need to worry, those high rates somehow took off from day 1, and so far no one has complained. People have acknowledged that they are expensive, but I just treat it as you would if you were a business owner. It costs what it costs, your ability to afford it, is not my problem. This summer I think I’ll be going for another $1-2/min raise and just see how it goes. I would love to be at Max rates on SM by next year.

All of this is just what worked for me. Most of you ladies may not need to change your look or show or whatever to make high rates work, but it is also something to consider, just in case. In terms of raising, don’t be scared to do it all at once, but also keep vigilant about where your bread is buttered. Understand as well that at the beginning, you may lose income. Calculate how much of a % cut you can take, and for how long, just so that you can set your prices to a place where even if you do experience income loss for a while, you are still getting paid enough to live on etc. Stick to your guns as well. Guys can read if you are not confident with your rates. Fake it til you make it, they will buy into it.

ETA: I’ve seen models on SM who have rates of 12.99/19.99 who seldom leave private shows, so there is a lot of evidence that high rates can work. Good luck!

Thank you so much! I have raised again by $1 so fingers crossed!

Teddy_Bear
04-17-2021, 03:14 PM
I switched my rates around to $9.99/private and $14.99/exclusive and I'm making more money, spending more time in paid chat, having multiple guys in private and loads of guys still go exclusive as well. I wish I'd done this sooner because yes I get $14.99/min in exclusive but sometimes I'm getting $50/min in private with multiple guys and the peepers don't even bother me, it's hard to see them through all that money raining down.

laurielegs
04-17-2021, 06:47 PM
the peepers don't even bother me, it's hard to see them through all that money raining down.


HAHH omg this made my day!!! ;)

Congratulations!

Miss_ShaSha
04-17-2021, 08:29 PM
I switched my rates around to $9.99/private and $14.99/exclusive and I'm making more money, spending more time in paid chat, having multiple guys in private and loads of guys still go exclusive as well. I wish I'd done this sooner because yes I get $14.99/min in exclusive but sometimes I'm getting $50/min in private with multiple guys and the peepers don't even bother me, it's hard to see them through all that money raining down.

Damn good shit!

SimoneGray
04-18-2021, 05:12 AM
I switched my rates around to $9.99/private and $14.99/exclusive and I'm making more money, spending more time in paid chat, having multiple guys in private and loads of guys still go exclusive as well. I wish I'd done this sooner because yes I get $14.99/min in exclusive but sometimes I'm getting $50/min in private with multiple guys and the peepers don't even bother me, it's hard to see them through all that money raining down.

YES GIRL! Keep private rates relatively expensive as well, and watch that cash come innnnnn!

Miss_ShaSha
04-18-2021, 01:07 PM
This SM contest has pissed me way off. I'm not even PMSing. I raised my EXCL rate to $15.99 and will keep it that way this whole contest. I'm leaving my PVT rate at $9.99 where I do non nude.

FUCK ALL THE BS. If I'm gonna sit around for this shit I'm gonna get paid bank.

Will report at the end of the week.

UPDATE:

NOPE. Sat at 4.5 hrs with $15.99 and zero shows. Lowered it back down to $10.99 and I'm getting shows with lots of GOLD.

Gonna keep it at $10.99 loolollll

Ambercat
04-19-2021, 08:58 AM
I've been at 6.99/9.99 for months and months on SM. Today I got the "Expensive" tag. I can't decide if this is a good thing or not. I consider my prices at the high side of average, perhaps I should increase them to live up to the tag.

kinkydirtybitch
04-19-2021, 11:49 AM
I've been at 6.99/9.99 for months and months on SM. Today I got the "Expensive" tag. I can't decide if this is a good thing or not..
I can’t decide whether it was good or bad so I blocked it while I decide :D

SuperPookie
04-19-2021, 12:39 PM
I finally raised my Skype rate to $5 on my primary indie site :).

moneybags
04-22-2021, 10:47 PM
I've been at 6.99/9.99 for months and months on SM. Today I got the "Expensive" tag. I can't decide if this is a good thing or not. I consider my prices at the high side of average, perhaps I should increase them to live up to the tag.


These guys want sex for the cheap. I don’t care if it’s virtual sex-it’s still sex! Sex isn’t cheap! Especially if your a quality model. If you are quality model, then your not too expensive. They want some girl that will do the most for $50! Sex is usually $300-$500. I think that’s pretty average for sex??? So 9.99 for 10 mins is $100! Your cut $30 and afte taxes $21!!! Get out of here! These guys want $20 BJ’s and $50 sex. Girls your are worth it! Especially with the prices of everything going up.

I’m 6.99/9.99. These guys are ridiculous! And they don’t tip!

xxxGothBarbie
04-22-2021, 11:49 PM
I went up on my texting site. My regs are paying it no probs thankfully.

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:04 AM
OK I'm gonna be honest...I played customer this week and took some girls private. From the vanilla newbie with the bad quality cam all the way up to the elite expensive studio models. I desperately needed to see what my competition was and what I could learn from these girls. I agree with you on what you said because this is what I found...

Girls who do fetishes, like 85% of them (yes I calculated) had HIGH rates. Like, above $9.99. Their shows were good. They know their shit. Watching them for hours, they had no issues getting privates or getting tips. And yes, their customers loved being in their presence.

I watched one studio girl who replied to a guy so perfectly. She said, "Do I look like a woman who doesn't know what they're doing?"

I believe in raising your rates. Great work, ShaSha!! That's a damn good week you had!

I know I'm not killing myself anymore. I'm finally able to pull 4-5 hour shifts. I also go slower. I don't spaz out.

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:05 AM
i went up on my texting site. My regs are paying it no probs thankfully.

hell yeah girl. Get em

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:13 AM
I raised right away pretty much. Id been on SM for a long time, at average rates and every time I would raise by $1 or so, I’d see results for exactly a week, and then go back to the doldrums of waiting for long hours to get shows etc. Then last year, during lockdown (my country had a hard lockdown, so no leaving the house for 5 months except for essentials) I took about 3 months just fully off cam to recover and rest etc. When I went back, I figured that all was lost anyway, none of my customers would come back and id be at the bottom placement wise, so I said fuck it, and raised all the way up in one go. I raised by about $5 each show. My thinking was that if I was going to sit on cam for ages, the shows I did get would be well paid ones. I also updated my look and made sure that whenever I was on cam, I looked sleek and elegant. I bought a wig because my hair has just never really worked for me on cam aesthetically, plus it cut down on my time to get ready. I also invested in some good looking lingerie and am working out to tone my body up. Basically, I try look like a premium product every time I’m online. I believe that this helped people buy into my rates as well.


Turns out I didn’t need to worry, those high rates somehow took off from day 1, and so far no one has complained. People have acknowledged that they are expensive, but I just treat it as you would if you were a business owner. It costs what it costs, your ability to afford it, is not my problem. This summer I think I’ll be going for another $1-2/min raise and just see how it goes. I would love to be at Max rates on SM by next year.

All of this is just what worked for me. Most of you ladies may not need to change your look or show or whatever to make high rates work, but it is also something to consider, just in case. In terms of raising, don’t be scared to do it all at once, but also keep vigilant about where your bread is buttered. Understand as well that at the beginning, you may lose income. Calculate how much of a % cut you can take, and for how long, just so that you can set your prices to a place where even if you do experience income loss for a while, you are still getting paid enough to live on etc. Stick to your guns as well. Guys can read if you are not confident with your rates. Fake it til you make it, they will buy into it.

ETA: I’ve seen models on SM who have rates of 12.99/19.99 who seldom leave private shows, so there is a lot of evidence that high rates can work. Good luck!

I love what you said. It reminds me of this nice restaurant I finally could afford to go to. It was a $200 experience but it was just that: an EXPERIENCE. I've watched girls who mindlessly just stick a dildo in their vagina and you can tell they really don't care, they have daily conversation talk while they do it, and it's bland. Then there are the girls that are masters at their art. They pull you in the split second and it's a real show. A real experience. That's the difference i see. If you're an unethusiastic girl that doesn't put a lot of effort in, that's totally cool. But these girls are quick fixes who show the man what he wants in 2 minutes or less. Some women want to give a full experience. And I've learned that's me.

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:16 AM
I've been at 6.99/9.99 for months and months on SM. Today I got the "Expensive" tag. I can't decide if this is a good thing or not. I consider my prices at the high side of average, perhaps I should increase them to live up to the tag.

I feel men do that because they're bitter their wallet isn't as big as your self-appreciation.

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:23 AM
These guys want sex for the cheap. I don’t care if it’s virtual sex-it’s still sex! Sex isn’t cheap! Especially if your a quality model. If you are quality model, then your not too expensive. They want some girl that will do the most for $50! Sex is usually $300-$500. I think that’s pretty average for sex??? So 9.99 for 10 mins is $100! Your cut $30 and afte taxes $21!!! Get out of here! These guys want $20 BJ’s and $50 sex. Girls your are worth it! Especially with the prices of everything going up.

I’m 6.99/9.99. These guys are ridiculous! And they don’t tip!

GIRL PREACH. I was $2.99/$3.99 and like I've said before, when I raised my rates some guys got hella pissy. I told them "I can't charge my 2010 rate in 2021 and expect to live." In 2010 I was young and lived at home. I'm a fucking adult now with car payments and house payments and shit. This month alone I've spent $200 on new stuff for my job and we can't write that off. Not to mention a tax add on in my state fucking kills me. I've already talked about that.

I started doing full makeup, a wig like another girl said, and better lighting. I'm not a basic cam girl anymore.

I actually had one guy whine to me tonight and say "You're $6.99 for exclusive? That's a bit expensive. That's like $70 in ten minutes."

I told him "Well I've been putting up with your shit in free chat for an hour so I think I've earned that."

KittenGirl
04-23-2021, 12:32 AM
I've been inspired. I put my PREMIUM at $6.99 and my exclusive at $7.99. The site won't let me go higher than that. Doing it for 30 days no restraints!

kinkydirtybitch
04-23-2021, 08:17 AM
Only just noticed that the exclusive rate is capped at $9.99. Fuck that shit Introductory offer just ended bitches!

gbjenna
04-23-2021, 09:27 AM
Only just noticed that the exclusive rate is capped at $9.99. Fuck that shit Introductory offer just ended bitches!

If you email support they can up the limit for you x

Angela888
04-23-2021, 09:39 AM
Only just noticed that the exclusive rate is capped at $9.99. Fuck that shit Introductory offer just ended bitches!

haha love this

ThatBritishCamGirl
04-23-2021, 12:10 PM
Would love to hear more girls from AWs input on this ��

kikixxxx
04-23-2021, 12:26 PM
the groups have ruined aw dont you think? its brought down the overall cost of the entire platform as all the girls are charging so little there its hard to up your price without looking ridiculously expensive. i noticed a lot of girls have dropped their prices to keep up with the competition. before, it was only eastern european girls charging 1£ per min, now uk girls are doing the same - and thats including the 19% vat !! they must be coming out with 50p or something :/

the whole point of doing this line of work is cause you make good money, if your gonna charge that low you may aswell go work in mcdonalds lol

ThatBritishCamGirl
04-23-2021, 12:44 PM
I agree Kiki, it's exactly why I wanted to hear from more AdultWork girls in this thread! I find that by raising rates on AW, because so many girls in certain groups are doing 99p, 1.19, etc - the rest of us end up looking extremely expensive like you said! There's a girl on AW who does really well, at 1.50 / 2.50 so I tried it and I genuinely have been SO busy! But with the VAT changes I only end up with around 1.26 and 2.10 ... which is nothing!

Prior to the changes, I was 1.99 and 2.99, sometimes 3.99 and now no guys want to pay it!

Raising Rates is hard on AW!

kikixxxx
04-23-2021, 12:48 PM
I agree Kiki, it's exactly why I wanted to hear from more AdultWork girls in this thread! I find that by raising rates on AW, because so many girls in certain groups are doing 99p, 1.19, etc - the rest of us end up looking extremely expensive like you said! There's a girl on AW who does really well, at 1.50 / 2.50 so I tried it and I genuinely have been SO busy! But with the VAT changes I only end up with around 1.26 and 2.10 ... which is nothing!

Prior to the changes, I was 1.99 and 2.99, sometimes 3.99 and now no guys want to pay it!

Raising Rates is hard on AW!

yeah i was 2.99/3.99 which now after the VAT shows as 3.56/4.76... id stand out like a sore thumb, for all the wrong reasons lol. i used to make amazing money on adultwork back in the day but now id have to drop my rates significantly which means more work for less $$
have you tried splitcamming with other sites? thats what im thinking of doing. x

ThatBritishCamGirl
04-23-2021, 12:54 PM
Sent you a PM, Kiki x

fetishqueen
04-23-2021, 02:27 PM
I agree Kiki, it's exactly why I wanted to hear from more AdultWork girls in this thread! I find that by raising rates on AW, because so many girls in certain groups are doing 99p, 1.19, etc - the rest of us end up looking extremely expensive like you said! There's a girl on AW who does really well, at 1.50 / 2.50 so I tried it and I genuinely have been SO busy! But with the VAT changes I only end up with around 1.26 and 2.10 ... which is nothing!

Prior to the changes, I was 1.99 and 2.99, sometimes 3.99 and now no guys want to pay it!

Raising Rates is hard on AW!

You get far less than £1.26 and £2.10 your cut if you are charging £1.50 / £2.50, those are the prices you have to ask before AW adds the VAT to the customer so that THEY pay £1.50 / £2.50. Your cut is the amounts quoted, less 5% cam facility fee, then less 30% withdrawal fee. My maths has it around 84p / £1.39 p/min your cut. Not including anything you might pay for positioning, featuring etc.

kinkydirtybitch
04-24-2021, 01:49 AM
If you email support they can up the limit for you x
I’m still waiting for reply to a message sent a week ago so waiting for a miracle!

Miss_ShaSha
04-25-2021, 10:39 PM
This is all with $9.99/$10.99 rates with a lot of GOLD on top just for yesterday on a Sunday. Best yet!!!

54844

Ladies: I'm a BBW foot fetish Domme. I rarely take my lingerie off and men will pay high GOLD menu prices and tip high on top of the high rate. Just gotta believe you deserve it.

RAISE YOUR RATES!!!

This is my GOLD menu and men pay:

54845

Esixxx
04-26-2021, 01:21 PM
Said fuck it, today has been stupid slow- raised my rates from 6.99/7.99 to 7.99/8.99.

Miss_ShaSha
04-26-2021, 03:20 PM
Said fuck it, today has been stupid slow- raised my rates from 6.99/7.99 to 7.99/8.99.

Hell yeah fuck yeah!

moneybags
04-27-2021, 09:02 PM
I’m still waiting for reply to a message sent a week ago so waiting for a miracle!


Me too! They take forever to get back to you!

minibagel
04-28-2021, 08:51 AM
^^You guys can always email Liz. Fwiw I only communicate with her and never bother with official support. Liz usually gets back to me within a day or two, the last time I had a question she responded within an hour.

Just checked my email and it looks like she approved my rate increase request within 2 hours

moneybags
05-03-2021, 12:12 AM
So Liz approved my rate. I want to be a 14.99 per min model. Should I raise my prices slowly? I’m at 7.99/9.99. I’m kinda scared to raises my rates. I was thinking incrementally raising them. One thing I learned is once you raise them keep them there! My last customer tried to beg me to lower my rates because I had been playing around with them. If I raise my rates I’m going to keep them there unless it’s absolutely brutal.

Miss_ShaSha
05-03-2021, 03:23 AM
So Liz approved my rate. I want to be a 14.99 per min model. Should I raise my prices slowly? I’m at 7.99/9.99. I’m kinda scared to raises my rates. I was thinking incrementally raising them. One thing I learned is once you raise them keep them there! My last customer tried to beg me to lower my rates because I had been playing around with them. If I raise my rates I’m going to keep them there unless it’s absolutely brutal.

I'd say $1 up at a time. I tried from $10.99 EXCL to $15.99 & sat 4+ hrs without a show. $1 up isn't so shocking.

laurielegs
05-03-2021, 06:44 AM
I'd say $1 up at a time. I tried from $10.99 EXCL to $15.99 & sat 4+ hrs without a show. $1 up isn't so shocking.

It's possible it was a coincidence too. Even low priced hosts get dead times. (Also it depends on whether you need money fast. If I were in a position where I could wait it out I'd probably just bump it up all at once).

It's hard not to blame the price when it goes quiet like that though!

laurielegs
05-03-2021, 06:47 AM
Might be a good time to raise prices!

in the news this week:

U.S. consumer spending rose 4.2% while the economy keeps growing
https://doralfamilyjournal.com/u-s-consumer-spending-rose-4-2-while-the-economy-keeps-growing/

US wages and benefits jump as economy reopens
https://www.wistv.com/2021/04/30/us-wages-benefits-jump-economy-reopens/

Flush With Cash, Americans Are Buying Everything From iPhones To Teslas
https://www.npr.org/2021/04/30/992391123/flush-with-cash-americans-are-buying-everything-from-iphones-to-dresses

SuperPookie
05-03-2021, 03:25 PM
I'm trying raising my pvt & ex rates by 0.50. I realize that isn't a lot but about all I've gotten lately is regs so I don't want to freak them out.

moneybags
05-04-2021, 08:18 PM
I raised my rates to 9.99/14.99 I did it ladies! Getting shows too!

fetishqueen
05-11-2021, 04:51 AM
Can I ask please ladies, those of you who charge 'high' rates and do well, are you offering something 'unique'? I'm not sure how to phrase it so I apologise if I come across clumsy! What I mean is do you need to offer something special, domination etc or maybe a unique service to ask and do well with high rates? Or would you say that success with high rates comes from owning it, personality or nothing particular other than raising rates and being patient?

I charge decent rates but would love to go high, I can go to $15.99 on SM. Although we are all unique and special, I certainly don't offer a lot of things and prefer simple vanilla shows without toys to anything else. I suppose I'm trying to say would I be silly to try the top rates?

supercharx
05-11-2021, 05:34 AM
AW ladies - not sure what my rates are but i left it at whatever it was before the tax add on thingamajig. I rarely log in but I still get shows when I do.

The key to raising rates is patience and riding it out.

supercharx
05-11-2021, 05:41 AM
I raised my rates to 9.99/14.99 I did it ladies! Getting shows too!

This is great! All the best!!


Can I ask please ladies, those of you who charge 'high' rates and do well, are you offering something 'unique'? I'm not sure how to phrase it so I apologise if I come across clumsy! What I mean is do you need to offer something special, domination etc or maybe a unique service to ask and do well with high rates? Or would you say that success with high rates comes from owning it, personality or nothing particular other than raising rates and being patient?

Honestly? Idk. Possibly a bit of everything you mentioned. However, it's also important to understand we are all unique in our own ways, we offer different services, some are only on one platform or multiple, some are veterans and have been in the industry for a long time and loads of other factors.

Success doesn't always come overnight and sometimes appearances can be deceiving. If you feel confident enough to raise your rates, do it!


I charge decent rates but would love to go high... I suppose I'm trying to say would I be silly to try the top rates?

Raise your rates. If you want to go to the top. Do it!

Miss_ShaSha
05-11-2021, 07:56 AM
Can I ask please ladies, those of you who charge 'high' rates and do well, are you offering something 'unique'? I'm not sure how to phrase it so I apologise if I come across clumsy! What I mean is do you need to offer something special, domination etc or maybe a unique service to ask and do well with high rates? Or would you say that success with high rates comes from owning it, personality or nothing particular other than raising rates and being patient?

I charge decent rates but would love to go high, I can go to $15.99 on SM. Although we are all unique and special, I certainly don't offer a lot of things and prefer simple vanilla shows without toys to anything else. I suppose I'm trying to say would I be silly to try the top rates?

I think knowing you deserve a higher rate and believing in yourself is the key. I do a lot of shows just showing off my feet and men pay $10.99 a min and tip on top for just that. Sure it's a fetish and feet are kinda like pussy, but I don't have to shove dildos in me all day to make my goals. Not every guy wants you to use toys. Some men just want JOI and you can remain clothed for that. A lot of men like SPH and I rarely take my lingerie off for that.

If you wanna do all vanilla without toys I'm sure you can. You may have to wait a little longer for the target audience you're right for, but I feel better knowing I'm getting paid what I'm worth even when I have to wait 6-8 hrs to make or exceed my goals.

fetishqueen
05-11-2021, 02:31 PM
Thank you ladies! It's so hard to know what we are worth I guess! One thing I do know, I enjoy shows much more when I'm getting paid a decent amount... :)

moneybags
05-11-2021, 11:48 PM
^^^honestly raising my rates high just has to do with my belief sex work should be expensive. After beauty and taxes, I should have something to show for it! It’s up for debate, but after reading scholarly book (camming: money, power, and sex) the author says virtual sex isn’t much different than in person sex. I agree to a point. I think sometimes models and clients devalue our service because it’s not “real sex”. Just because there’s a screen doesn’t mean we aren’t really having sex with these guys. I think that’s up to every models personal interpretation, but my perspective is I’m having sex with you I deserve to MAKE MONEY! I feel like it’s an equal energy exchange. When I was charging lower rates it’s didn’t feel good. I felt used and exploited.

I’m offering my SOUL. My SOUL shouldn’t be on discount.

minibagel
05-12-2021, 09:00 AM
^Congrats on raising your rates. I agree that this line of work should be expensive. A luxury. I will not go on a full blown rant about Onlyfans but I hate the way the industry seems to be moving toward these subscription based services, like everything else in the world. We are not Netflix. Guys don’t deserve to consume more content for less money. It cheapens and devalues the entire industry, I've seen several guys commenting that cam sites are dying and that they spend their money on OF now. Which translates to they are ecstatic to spend less for more now, and they really, really can the way a lot of creators run their OF. Why contribute to a cam girl's 20,000 token topic goal when they can instead gain instant access to daily pics/clips paying for the price of a pizza per month? I’m grateful that the cam industry is still alive and well and that there are still a healthy amount of guys who prefer live interaction instead of static pics and clips, which seems so regressive doesn’t it?

I disagree about the part where cam girls are having sex with clients but thanks for adding that it’s up to our own interpretation.The way I perceive it is girls are simply masturbating in front of a webcam. Voyeurism that is consensual and paid for. These losers couldn’t pay me a billion dollars to touch their shrimp dicks. I’d rather tie weights to my ankles and let myself drown to the bottom of the ocean than ever let one of these guys touch me, sorry if that is dramatic

I consider myself an actress and whatever I do on screen isn’t real. The fact that this is a through a screen makes all the difference in the world. I am playing a character, acting out fantasies in a digital medium. It’s show business in real time. Just my 2c.

moneybags
05-12-2021, 12:08 PM
^^^Everyone can interpret what sex is to them. It’s definitely a gray area. I could go into more detail, but I don’t think that would really be useful.

On the topic of changes in the industry. I saw they same thing with dances. It was really sad to see. I think any of us veterans can vouch for the decline. I think the same thing is happening in the camming world. With dancing a lot of top earners started bartending because they made about the same with their clothes on and less customer contact, but about the same in terms of emotional labor. The bottle girls were making more than dancers. Similarly, I think the same observation can be made with online content. I think girls who have other options will use their skill set to make more money doing something else. I can fault anyone. With coronavirus more people are doing survival sex work.

It’s like art is “expensive” because your buying a piece of someone’s soul. That’s how I look at my work if people want a Walmart painting they can go to Walmart. I’m a fine piece of art and I deserve to be appreciated. Nothing against cheap artwork. When you’re broke and just need something to put on your wall cheap art works...lol. You’ll always have people that balk at a $300-$600 painting. Saying that’s “expensive”, I’ll go to Walmart or wherever. I personally would never tell anyone there artwork is expensive. That’s just rude. I’m just like, “Sorrt, I can’t afford it.” The customers “should” have the same attitude, but they can be toxic to me when they see me rates. Insulting me and such.