View Full Version : Are there more rude guys on SM lately?
DaisyRose
02-18-2012, 02:03 PM
I blocked someone the other day in Streamate because he basically said I was priced too high, I was too ugly, and that I was a tranny. I checked my account to see if he ever taken me private and he never spent a dime on my show. So obviously if he did he would have seen that I'm all woman in every way. Obviously other guys found me sexy and didn't mistake my sex at first glance in my chat room. His name did seem familiar so he might have entered my room before. Maybe he's confused about his sexuality and wished I was a he-she lol.
idgaf_luvr
02-18-2012, 02:08 PM
The other day I had someone in my free chat room say that he stumbled upon me via a dating site which is very popular in which he told me the name of it but I wish to have the name remain anonymous. I was surprised and said something like " that's where they put us huh"?
Someone told me today that I should check out their profile. I was like "what profile He responded "the profile on this site."
I haven't been getting more rude guys, but just more clueless guys. Clueless is just as annoying.
temptingmodel
02-18-2012, 04:59 PM
Yes a dating dating site but as I read more sounds like a lot of girls are found that way. It has to be a stupid whitelabel. I love a 60min block esp since he never ever bought a show. 15v mins or so of play and the rest was chatting about his kids, grandkids, if I wanted to be a woman of Leisure...Im sitting there drinking wine with no clothes. That is leisure to me. I went to bed and slept like a kitten. QUOTE=CourtneyRaine;2299699]Congrats on the 60 minute block! Don't you love those? I haven't had a block session in probably about three weeks, whereas I used to have one on average about every 3 days. In addition to more rude guys and more cheap guys, I've noticed that I haven't seen as many of my regulars this week. Boo!
But really, he found you through a dating service? bdjfwieuf,nfk.h
Why does Streamate think it is a Good Thing to advertise free sex? I know my earnings are down, and it seems like other (Not all) girls are also reporting lower earnings recently, or at least a lower hourly. I'd be really curious to see how SM's net revenue has fluctuated now that they're doing this type of advertising. I can't imagine how this can possibly be good for their bottom line.
If someone offered me something for free, and then when I went there told me I had to pay a high price for it, I'd be pissed, too. In fact, even if it was something I may have initially considered purchasing, I probably wouldn't once I found out the actual price because I'd feel I was being lied to by the company. However, my momma raised me right and I certainly wouldn't use that as a reason to personally attack someone who works there.[/QUOTE]
temptingmodel
02-18-2012, 05:01 PM
This sounds like model 2 model bashing. Men do not act like that they just leave. That is why it is hard to filter. Some men get off by calling you names..they NEVER say Tranny.
I blocked someone the other day in Streamate because he basically said I was priced too high, I was too ugly, and that I was a tranny. I checked my account to see if he ever taken me private and he never spent a dime on my show. So obviously if he did he would have seen that I'm all woman in every way. Obviously other guys found me sexy and didn't mistake my sex at first glance in my chat room. His name did seem familiar so he might have entered my room before. Maybe he's confused about his sexuality and wished I was a he-she lol.
DesuvsDeath
02-18-2012, 05:13 PM
I was googling cam sites a few days ago and all these things came up saying "live free sex" when I clicked on it, I was sent right to SM. Is this how they think you get paying members...by saying free live sex. If I was a stupid horny man that would make me think you dont have to pay for anything.
The sites seem to be going for quantity as opposed to quality when getting traffic.
That's not new, though. I've been getting linked to SM while browsing through porn for AGES.
So it wouldn't explain the sudden increase in assholes.
GlamourRouge
02-18-2012, 06:35 PM
They obvz bought cheaper traffic or started advertising new since mid-January, as has been noticed in several other threads since then.
However, I've never really liked that site much since you work so hard for such little payout. Not because its free chat, but because its not a tip-based site. I'm always exhausted on there after 4 hours whereas I would be able to work 2x as long on MFC or a tip-based site, and 5x as long on a paid chat site. I definitely prefer that. In addition, its annoying have to deal with tech issues they refuse to resolve, and dealing with customer service people that are either really foreign or are bots. I suspect that site will end up just like IMLive in the next year or so, to be honest unless they change things for the better (which I doubt since Gold Shows was definitely the opposite).
And with the ways that celebs and pornstars are signing up on that site, soon the first page or 2 will solely be celebs and pornstars which are weighted weirdly (in a good way) somehow. Ever since I've been in the Pornstar category on there, my traffic has increased greatly. So I guess all that is good idea in theory, but a bad idea in the long run unless they start featuring many more girls per page or add several more categories.
Cam_Model_Jess
02-19-2012, 11:02 AM
I've always had guys who would say mean stuff in free chat, call me names, etc. I've always had guys who assume I'll do anything for money and get mad when I tell them no. And I've always had guys who continue to ask for the same thing over and over until I block them.
What is new is the volume of guys who are calling me "bitch, slut, whore," etc. out of nowhere. I used to get that in the middle of them saying some other stuff, or I'd get the guys who came in and said it right away. Now I'm getting guys who have paid me before with no issue and in the middle of the show start calling me name for no reason. Or the guys who seem to think it's perfectly acceptable to call me bitch or whore like it's my name. "Suck that dildo whore," etc. Some of these guys are so dumb or ignorant that they can't differentiate between one cam girl and another, and they do not treat us like human beings.
Really recent trends: Extremely demanding guys. Guys who come in and tell me to do something immediately, like within the first few seconds. And when I don't break my neck trying getting to their request at lightening speed, they say "NOW!" They literally type "NOW." I couldn't believe it at first. I've been doing this a while, and this is NOW bullshit is new. I'm getting really sick of that one. The other recent trend is guys who want "harder." They type "harder" over and over. I know they can't possibly be enjoying the show b/c of all the typing. And they don't seem to understand that there is no "harder" that's going to be hard enough for them. I'm also not going to tear apart my lady parts so they can pay for a 45 second show. It's insane. But sometimes I can make myself laugh about it by imagining that these guys have never actually had sex & don't understand that their penises do not turn into jackhammers when they start fucking.
But still... it's getting very tiring.
Lovelyx
02-19-2012, 12:03 PM
Yes is true, even if I cannot talk too much about SM since I'm barely new there and don;t spend lot of time. I had 3 exclusive's chat yesterday night and they were all like desperate, and sayin the 'harder now' stuff...I was doing some anal with an anal toy, anal toys usually are very thin, and the member was like dont you have something bigger??? break that ass for me bb, dont you have bigger toys for pussy??? and bla bla...I answer politely to all of them, I'm sorry sweetie but I'm a very tight girl and I want to keep my parts tight, harder and bigger doesn't mean better for us girls so pls dont think otherwise, I wont hurt myself and I cant provide more than what Im showing, so if you arent enjoying my show I will understand if you leave. I though that puttng higher prices will avoid these types of guys (usually cheaps) but there you go....yes more rude guys on SM.
Blonde-Ambition
02-19-2012, 12:23 PM
FREELOADER galore at moment!
doing my head in!!!
don't know how much longer i can take on that dumb site :(
LaurenAus
02-19-2012, 01:08 PM
last night I got bored and lurked in greeneyed's room. She's usually in the top row. I swear if everyone addressed these guys the way she does, SM wouldn't be such a fun feeding ground for rude, disrespectful freeloaders.
shywebcamgirl
02-19-2012, 02:03 PM
last night I got bored and lurked in greeneyed's room. She's usually in the top row. I swear if everyone addressed these guys the way she does, SM wouldn't be such a fun feeding ground for rude, disrespectful freeloaders.
I agree. Greeneyed is my personal heroine!
Rosexxxx
02-19-2012, 07:11 PM
I raised my prices like three days ago and I am getting guys that say my prices are too high. One said I raised my prices and did not get any prettier. One said he was going to take me private but I raised my prices. Another today said some girl who is hot and a porn star is 3.00 a minute and I am charging almost 4.00. I am charging 3.99 private/4.78 exclusive. I could not even ban them because they typed it fast and left. Then I get more free loaders. I am not lowering my prices. I just did a shoot with 40 something mag two weeks ago. I look young for my age and I have a good body, good lighting, audio and hd. I have to work a little longer hours but its worth it. I feel I make more. Thanks to everybody on this forum. I got the nerve to raise my prices. I feel that I am worth it. And everybody should feel that way.
shywebcamgirl
02-19-2012, 09:30 PM
I raised my prices like three days ago and I am getting guys that say my prices are too high.
Good for you for standing your ground!!!
I get guys that say that to me all the time. I always love how they announce how I am way too expensive to everyone in free chat and then run away immediately after that say it. I always smile and say it is obvious that they are intimidated by luxury they can't afford and needed to justify it to themselves before leaving. :D
JuliAnne333
02-20-2012, 02:42 AM
I had a guy the other day come in and say, "OMG, it's John Goodman!" Then went on to say a lot of other silly things. I said to him, "Yes, I am John Goodman, and I have a big dick for your ass, bend over bitch!" I then said a few other degrading things to him about how he must like dick etc and he left... my regulars were cracking up.
By the way, I do not resemble a man or John Goodman.
Had a guy tonight with 12inch in his name. Kept going on and on about his penis. Told him he should sign up and do shows. Kept wanting to mail pics or text me his penis. Gave out his number in chat ..duh...then, finally goes private and yes, he did have a 12 inch, but he seemed to think I was taking applications for stunt cocks to perform with me. LOL Now he is stalking my chat asking if I have thought about his *offer* to make me some money using his body parts.. LOL I keep asking where he got the notion I was looking for a partner...he couldn't answer. I have a feeling I will be blocking him in the next few days. Just because you have a large dick, it doesn't mean I want to meet up and do a show with you!!! If he would have listened to me, I said, sign up for an account so YOU can make money.. guys would pay to see that thing! LOL He twisted it all up and now is probably going to be all bent out of shape and think I meant get an account so you can do shows with me!
But, yeah, definitely mean and weird viewers this week.
TM1975
02-20-2012, 04:17 AM
Yes is true, even if I cannot talk too much about SM since I'm barely new there and don;t spend lot of time. I had 3 exclusive's chat yesterday night and they were all like desperate, and sayin the 'harder now' stuff...I was doing some anal with an anal toy, anal toys usually are very thin, and the member was like dont you have something bigger??? break that ass for me bb, dont you have bigger toys for pussy??? and bla bla...I answer politely to all of them, I'm sorry sweetie but I'm a very tight girl and I want to keep my parts tight, harder and bigger doesn't mean better for us girls so pls dont think otherwise, I wont hurt myself and I cant provide more than what Im showing, so if you arent enjoying my show I will understand if you leave. I though that puttng higher prices will avoid these types of guys (usually cheaps) but there you go....yes more rude guys on SM.
I get this a lot too! I use a normal sized dildo for my pussy, resembling a cock, and a smallish glass dildo for my ass. They always seems to want me to put the cock look alike in my ass, if it's a gold show I just ignore them, if it's a priv or exclusive I just explain to them that I don't alternate my toys between ass and pussy and that if it touches my ass it will NEVER again go inside of my pussy.
I also tell people up front that I do not do large toys, it's just not my thing. :)
Lovelyx
02-20-2012, 07:21 AM
I get this a lot too! I use a normal sized dildo for my pussy, resembling a cock, and a smallish glass dildo for my ass. They always seems to want me to put the cock look alike in my ass, if it's a gold show I just ignore them, if it's a priv or exclusive I just explain to them that I don't alternate my toys between ass and pussy and that if it touches my ass it will NEVER again go inside of my pussy.
I also tell people up front that I do not do large toys, it's just not my thing. :)
Yeah, guys on this type of sites are obsesed with big fat toys, bottle's, bat, fist, etc. They always want or expect the girl to torture their ass or pussy with extremely big stuff thinking this way girls 'enjoy more' since on porn movies that's what they reflect to guys, And since they do think we're horny sluts on cam, they think that we're in some way similar to porn movies girl who seemed to 'enjoy' extreme fisting specially on ass....yep, what they don't think is that most of those pornstar of the movie are enjoyning the plenty of thousands $$$$$$$ they're receiving for that movie clip instead of the huge cock or bottle or bat or whatever they're getting into. When I show my toys, they always said 'ohhh is too little, anything bigger?' I explain no sorry no bigger, my toys are the standard penis size worldwide, I cannot buy a dildo the size of a horse since I don't have a horse pussy I have a woman pussy and there aren't no guys with a dick of that size. So, usually they leave, but I prefer to not have that pvt and loose that money, instead of even trying to hurt myself for a few bucks of dollars..it just doesnt worth it.
CourtneyRaine
02-20-2012, 08:12 AM
Ohmigosh, the big toy/harder/extreme guys.... Where did they all come from? I used to get a few before, and now it's Every Day. If a guy asks I will show him my toys Before we go private so he can decide if it's the size he wants to see me using. But then as soon as we go private it's unreasonable demands!
Oh, I've been getting this a lot last week: I have a 12" double sided jelly I use for deep throating and pussy play. I explain BEFORE we go private that I can only fit about half of it in my poom poom, anything more than that simply Does Not fit. Therefore I prefer to use my reguar sized toys so the guy gets to see me use the whole thing. No matter how many times I say this, guys last week have all demanded to see me fit the 12" toy HARDER ALL THE WAY BB NOW I SAID ALL THE WAY. Smh. Sorry boo, that thing is bigger than my forearm, I'm not trying to bust up my cervix for you, trust me that ain't sexy!
Ah, I don't think I could talk to my customers like greeneyed. I've only been in her room a couple of times and I respect how she does what she does, but my cam persona is Completely different from hers. I think she attracts more submissive guys, while I attract the guys who "think" they are dominating. It's funny because I often think some of the things she says to guys in her room, but I don't have the cam personality to pull it off as well as she does. Much respect to her, though, I WISH I could be more like that.
I took the last two days off because I wonder if I can deal with these BS custies, but, alas, the bills need to be paid so I'm back on cam in a couple of hours. May the force be with me!
Lovelyx
02-20-2012, 08:29 AM
Ohh yes, the 'let me see your toys before pvt' I show them, and members reply 'any bigger???' I said no and they leave the room...this sucks, those guys are so full of porn movies inside their head, that they swear we girls LOVEEEEEEEEEE and ADOREEEEEE huge big things inside, I wont break myself appart only to please for a few bucks some dumb guy. Sometimes, when they're in pvt they want me to use the dildo I use in pussy in the ass (since the pussy dildo is a bit fatter since is like a real penis) and I answer no sweetie, you want me to enjoy or you want me to hurt myself and cry??? if he answer hurt yourself I closed the pvt otherwise I continue, we're not slaves or ment to do things that's gona hurt herself for a few bucks, is like I said before is fine for a pornstar that receive thousands of dollars for 1 single movie clip where she puts a bottle inside her ass, here we're not receiving thousands for it, just a few bucks per minute, so is not worth it.
LaceyCummings
02-20-2012, 08:36 AM
THIS, this, all of this!
What a nightmarish week! I worked more hours than ever, making practically half my usual hourly average. So much time working for free, my lowest point was an hour and half where I made 1 dollar. I lost track of how many times I had to log off because I was too frustrated.
I had A LOT more guys asking to meet. I actually had guys asking me what 5 dollars would get them, and now I know why!
And the worst part is, I had PLENTY of traffic. I thought it was just me. This thread at least makes me feel a little better knowing I'm not the only one with these problems. SW to the rescue. Thanks guys.
LaurenAus
02-20-2012, 09:01 AM
way to go sm way to go. As far as the huge toy thing, my biggest fear would be to attract a bunch of customers wanting extreme insertion. Hell to the no that would make miserable. But yes ive gotten guys who have asked to see my toys first as well.
CourtneyRaine
02-21-2012, 07:10 AM
I meant to log on yesterday... Couldn't do it... It doesn't help that I've been kind of depressed due to some personal issues so my motivation is really low right now. If the money was still there the way it used to be for me that would be motivation. But it's not. At least I've been doing tons of research for my non-adult schemings!
I think that big toy insertion is hot so I can understand why a custy would ask for it. BUT what these guys fail to realize is when they are watching prerecorded "real" porn these girls don't just shove a bottle up their ass like the viewer may *think* they are seeing. There is so much time required to stretch, numbing creams, taking things VERY slowly, but post-production they're able to edit it so it looks like she's a crazy sex monster who goes at it non-stop. The girls in porn who do extreme big toy insertion, from what I've read, are usually in PAIN but they know how to fake it and more importantly, they don't have to work every day so they're able to take the time to give the bodies the rest they need to fully recover. Live models don't have that luxury, most of us are working every day of the week so we can't risk injuring our lady parts the way that some porn starts can. Even if we WANTED to (and which one of us would really want to, anyway?), for the relatively small amount we are making compared to these porn stars most of us can't afford to take a week off to recover from that type of show.
I understand it's all fantasy, but why can't customers be a Little Bit logical about this? Or at least don't degrade me if I say no!
Fridays
02-21-2012, 07:20 AM
lol you ladies.........
its so easy to spot who has been camming for a long time and whos new..
You have the right to say and do whatever you want to say and do.
when someone asks for " harder, bigger, NOW!!!!" u have the right to say and do whatever u want.
dont be so stiff with this... dont take it like it is... LOL
dont read words literally..
"Im sorry what, you said "now"? I thought you said "not"..:D
God, please teach these women how to be slick and indifferent...Amen.
Don't let these guys stress you. My profile clearly states what I do and do not do. If a customer asks for something I don't doing prvt, that's on his illiterate ass. I ignore him and do what I do. If he is dumb enough to stay in private in beg for it, well it's my money. I don't care if they get mad, sad, or go jump in a lake as long as I have been paid. If I cared about them I'd be a therapist. I'm not.
CourtneyRaine
02-21-2012, 03:03 PM
Just wanted to report that I broadcasted in classic chat today for the first time in months and the quality of guys was a thousand times better! Seriously, I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner. I am now completely convinced that 95% of the guys who are degrading and insulting only act that way because it makes them feel big to show everyone that they can get under our skin. If no other customers are seeing this "power" they have no incentive to be an asshat. I've had nothing but compliments today, and I actually had a couple of guys apologize when they asked me for freebies more than once and I had to get firm with them. Who woulda thunk it? A customer actually apologizing for being out of line? I did have quite a few freebie seekers (of course) but it really didn't feel as bad today. I know I will still encounter rude guys every now and then but I encountered a LOT more gentlemen in classic. Party chat: never again!
Also, for what it's worth, the quality of shows I got was better than it has been recently, and I earned what I typically used to earn on a Tuesday. I'm pleased :)
neliana
02-21-2012, 05:40 PM
This ^^^ a thousand times! I tried partychat and gold shows for a few days, and while I got a little more traffic, it was mostly beggar/cheap/asshole traffic. I dealt with so many rude demanding assholes in gold shows especially. I couldn't believe how mean the guys were in the gold shows! Here I am giving them a super cheap show, and they have the nerve to call me names and tell me I'm not good enough because I'm not following their directions in a GROUP show!
So I said fuck that, and now I only do classic chat. So much better!
Incantatious
02-21-2012, 07:09 PM
In honesty, I don't mind what anyone says about me if I'm getting paid. I can't mind. I don't have it in me. The same as I don't have it in me to actually be taken by anyone when I'm working. My mindset when I'm working = work. Work, and EARN. A guy could pay me $5.99 a minute to type a bunch of crap to me and I'll not feel the slightest bit negatively affected. He's handing his money to me. If a guy is rude in free chat, he gets banned. Done and dusted.
However, I HATE shitty traffic composed of free-loading, demanding-as-fuck dick heads, and tonight has just been an absolute riot in terms of those.
"I can see this kind of thing at the beach!" - Yes, that's because you haven't paid. BAI!
"Show panties under skirt" - I oblige. - "You don't look hairy". Of course I don't, you utter moron. It might have something to do with the fact that my underwear is concealing my hairy genitalia. That's kind of what they do! :D YA LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY!
I've scraped the barrel tonight by making under $30 in around 2 hours. I've never had so many guys who wanted me to do shit for free and got pissy when I didn't.
I swear I need a punchbag... With every guy who tries to freeload, or piss me around, I'll write his username on the punch bag and beat the ever loving FUCK out of it. I will also use it to stick up all my mini bank statements. When the punch bag is covered with bank statements, I'll keep it as my goddamn TROPHY.
Fridays
02-21-2012, 10:28 PM
lol Incantatious....very funny...:D
relax .. its not all that bad...
u still made $30...
whiteheat
02-21-2012, 10:33 PM
I came back on SM after almost a 2 months break (and from platinum blonde to brunette).
Surprisingly the regulars are still regulars, and I worked on that site only for few weeks def not full time.
Seems the paying traffic is a bit slower? I don't know, I get the same number of people as before in my room thou so I don't know if it's related to my possibly not so good placement.
Also I've never tried gold shows, I have yet to overcome this fear ahah ;(
Fridays
02-21-2012, 10:38 PM
Also I've never tried gold shows, I have yet to overcome this fear ahah ;(
what does "fear" mean?
lol:D
jk
shywebcamgirl
02-21-2012, 11:00 PM
Also I've never tried gold shows, I have yet to overcome this fear ahah ;(
If it makes you feel better whiteheat, I haven't either! I have heard so many horror stories of girls doing gold shows that they ended up not getting paid for that I am so nervous about messing things up!
Incantatious
02-21-2012, 11:50 PM
LOL... Wao I really did freak out earlier. I've never done as bad as I did tonight. >.<
Thank you Fridays! I'm going to get my ass back online in the afternoon.
whiteheat
02-22-2012, 12:13 AM
what does "fear" mean?
lol:D
jk
lol
i should read camming connection right before logging on SM (actually any free chat) from now on
whiteheat
02-22-2012, 12:23 AM
If it makes you feel better whiteheat, I haven't either! I have heard so many horror stories of girls doing gold shows that they ended up not getting paid for that I am so nervous about messing things up!
Argh yes also that <_<
Me and technical problems go hand in hand
I say um I'll try when I have way more viewers/a bigger following, but I'm just lying to myself ahah