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angelzimm
03-23-2013, 09:38 AM
I love that idea I normally just ignore them and not do anything at all untill a guy with money comes in. but a sign explaining why theyre being ignored might just go better ! Or instead of a sign Ill use many cam and type over my feed,

Even better with ur cam!

angelzimm
03-23-2013, 09:39 AM
I love that idea I normally just ignore them and not do anything at all untill a guy with money comes in. but a sign explaining why theyre being ignored might just go better ! Or instead of a sign Ill use many cam and type over my feed,

Even better with ur cam!

kortneykay
03-23-2013, 09:57 AM
Sounds great Angel except I don't show in free chat. You mentioned an orgasm game lol. I love the dry eraser board, etc as they do that on MFC. But so many guys on ABBC don't have funds to begin with to tip so you may be sitting there with people leaving all day and only staying to realize that you mean business, then leaving again. Your ideas sound great though since they worked.

Snowy0Star
03-23-2013, 10:04 AM
I know what works for one may not work for someone else and what worked for u one day may not work the next

angelzimm
03-23-2013, 10:39 AM
Sounds great Angel except I don't show in free chat. You mentioned an orgasm game lol. I love the dry eraser board, etc as they do that on MFC. But so many guys on ABBC don't have funds to begin with to tip so you may be sitting there with people leaving all day and only staying to realize that you mean business, then leaving again. Your ideas sound great though since they worked.

Sounds great Angel except I don't show in free chat. You mentioned an orgasm game lol. I love the dry eraser board, etc as they do that on MFC. But so many guys on ABBC don't have funds to begin with to tip so you may be sitting there with people leaving all day and only staying to realize that you mean business, then leaving again. Your ideas sound great though since they worked. yes it worked as well as I maintain the sittiing position. I play a game and ask people how long it would take for them to orgasm on me. I ask the whole room once its good and packed, they respond and the person who says they can last the longest I will tell them hooray you are my top cummer and that is their free message from me directly. Otherwise I just write different signs and do drawings. My excuse to them is that my voice is just as alluring as my body and they have to pay for that too since I alredady do phone sex operator work and have soo much roleplay practice already. It all in my profile and I tell em to read that bitch. Lmao yes I do sit in free chat a while but my rates are high enough to make peoplel want to tip as well as private for longer periods without findomming them. Add a dollar to
your rates if you have any special attributes for me I go. Sexy voice 1. Dramatic roleplayer 2 hq cam and audio 3&4.
Upload speed 5 niche category 6 sub niche category 7 and you can do what you want but that is typical adult industry calculation of value. Lol. Of coarse that 7 is on top of my normal 2.99. Most guys dont last too long so it has gotta be a mind blowing experience for a guy to cum normally, and to pay for it its gotta be almost as good as the real thing. So if you are a gogetta you can raise your rates high af and still have lengthy regular custies anywhere u go! Thing is with all bbw cams, the niche is so underappreciated, I know if some strong women start taking control we will rule those wankers. It just takes a littlr time to get in their head, make em dream about you even though they only see you waist up. Time a curiosity will drive men mad. Just be yourself always, heed my advice if you agree, maybe counter it to your wants, just take a piece if you will. I just know allbbwcams website does not pester custies to topp off and somebodys got to.

angelzimm
03-23-2013, 10:42 AM
Also I have been doing this long enough to know every day is different as it should be as a successful camgirl. The consistency is in not budging for bottomfeeders, not even getting annoy reed at them, but giving them an ultimatum quick.

Snowy0Star
03-25-2013, 02:04 PM
So I just tried that no credit no play thing and I bombed wondering if I did it wrong.

I just sat my desk in a chair put a tank top on over my bra still in my undies used many cams and did a text overlay on the top of my cam feed that said "zero credit = zero play" and when anybody with no money or a few cents came in and tired to talk to me (basically i wasnt having any interaction with anyone unless they had enuf money to take me ovt for at least 5 min) i would just point up and the text and eventaully everyone left and everyone with money in thier account left after i said hi to them.

kortneykay
03-25-2013, 06:46 PM
Unless I'm in a findom mood I'm not going for the iggy games with the broke custys. You never know who is going to show up with some real bread. Like I mentioned before, I had a custy (who is my ex sugar daddy trying to make a come back) who sat in my room all the time, then, I jokingly mentioned that too many time wasters were wasting my time, he left, came back and dropped $100 on me in private without me taking off my clothes. Then, that same day he told me that he was looking for a sugar baby but never had one before...I told him I wasn't cheap. I brushed it off and received a message from him (my old name was the same as my yahoo id) on YM as he was doing a search for my name on google. $15k later he's still around and still trying to spend money on me. My birthday is coming up and he always remembers, just today he asked if I still used pp or greendot. Sometimes ignoring the broke ones isn't in your best interest. Being open and friendly does help unless you're being a biotch on purpose lol. Giving them a nudge helps at times but if they are draining you completely, then I say block them, if not, let them continue to dote on you, it couldn't hurt your image.

angelzimm
03-25-2013, 06:59 PM
So I just tried that no credit no play thing and I bombed wondering if I did it wrong.

I just sat my desk in a chair put a tank top on over my bra still in my undies used many cams and did a text overlay on the top of my cam feed that said "zero credit = zero play" and when anybody with no money or a few cents came in and tired to talk to me (basically i wasnt having any interaction with anyone unless they had enuf money to take me ovt for at least 5 min) i would just point up and the text and eventaully everyone left and everyone with money in thier account left after i said hi to them.Pretty sure you are doing it right, I might suggest playing non secual games with free chat too. I would try talking about stuff that normal people talk about to free chat and running a highest tipper contest with pic set or vid. As as reward. I get the guys email and secretly send a vid to my highest tipper or contributor of the week over 20$. Have lingere changes available and fold them on cam. Make the guys
tip list. Like 1$ for every person that wants to direct message you in free. Also I set my voyer price low so I can get more people perving while in private. Hope this helps. Time will get most men with jobs to relinquish some of that wallet. I saw how the girls on allbbw are trying this out and I am so happy to see us working together. Its not an overnight thing of coarse but somebody has to bug these freeloaders and tap into a few wallets here I mean comeon lol. Just be cool and relaxrd when your room is dead go private and come back with a new outfit or do like a lot of allbbwcams performers fo and sit in.private. The company has trollers that will get you guaranteed privates when you wait there. I found this out after sitting there for an hour curiously, got a few privates with users yahoo mail addresses as usernames and such, a happy discovery.

Snowy0Star
03-25-2013, 07:26 PM
Unless I'm in a findom mood I'm not going for the iggy games with the broke custys. You never know who is going to show up with some real bread. Like I mentioned before, I had a custy (who is my ex sugar daddy trying to make a come back) who sat in my room all the time, then, I jokingly mentioned that too many time wasters were wasting my time, he left, came back and dropped $100 on me in private without me taking off my clothes. Then, that same day he told me that he was looking for a sugar baby but never had one before...I told him I wasn't cheap. I brushed it off and received a message from him (my old name was the same as my yahoo id) on YM as he was doing a search for my name on google. $15k later he's still around and still trying to spend money on me. My birthday is coming up and he always remembers, just today he asked if I still used pp or greendot. Sometimes ignoring the broke ones isn't in your best interest. Being open and friendly does help unless you're being a biotch on purpose lol. Giving them a nudge helps at times but if they are draining you completely, then I say block them, if not, let them continue to dote on you, it couldn't hurt your image.

I dont know if its because its a small site or i have "fans" or what but i notice its the same guys who always come in my room that have no money and the ones with money seem just to vanish and never come back after the first time i see them the guys with no money or a few cents just go in there and think its a club or something like im just there to talk to them and intertian them for free. I would have pay out if i got nickles for everytime i got told to stand up like im a fucking dog. im soooo tired of it but im just trying to get the last 4 bucks i need for payout then im not logging in on there again.

Are you suggusting that i block the guys that i start recongizing that have zero balance or a few cents? i might just start kicking them instead if blocking them my way of dealing with free loaders is kick to send the message then ban if they come back

kortneykay
03-25-2013, 07:48 PM
I only suggest you block guys who don't get a hint aka trying to bug you or ask for free stuff, or guys who are rude. We have to understand that it's FREE chat whether they have money or not, you signed up to be an entertainer. Now, it is your decision to do what you wish, but I found out that if you give each and every guy in your room some acknowledgement, they respect you a lot more and will buy shows. Yes, ABBWC sucks because there are a lot more freeloaders but you can also stop showing them so much attention if they constantly come in and don't tip/buy shows and show attention to guys who are treating you with respect. A lot of guys with money know that their funds are showing up and can see the other guys have no money (I believe) and then there are the ones with money who just want to spend on the specific girl they find attractive. It's a possibility that they are just shopping around, or just want to watch to see if you would entice them enough to go private. You just have to learn your hustle. But don't treat guys with NO funds entirely wrong. If I would've booted my ex-SD that day I never would've gotten $15k from him. He sat in my room for days, not speaking with NO funds until I mentioned something and BAM, the guy was actually loaded.

Snowy0Star
03-25-2013, 07:53 PM
I only suggest you block guys who don't get a hint aka trying to bug you or ask for free stuff, or guys who are rude. We have to understand that it's FREE chat whether they have money or not, you signed up to be an entertainer. Now, it is your decision to do what you wish, but I found out that if you give each and every guy in your room some acknowledgement, they respect you a lot more and will buy shows. Yes, ABBWC sucks because there are a lot more freeloaders but you can also stop showing them so much attention if they constantly come in and don't tip/buy shows and show attention to guys who are treating you with respect. A lot of guys with money know that their funds are showing up and can see the other guys have no money (I believe) and then there are the ones with money who just want to spend on the specific girl they find attractive. It's a possibility that they are just shopping around, or just want to watch to see if you would entice them enough to go private. You just have to learn your hustle.

thax ill re-analyze what im doing and see if anything changes. I'm going to try and sit down not show anything but talk and see if it changes anything.

MissSassyPickles
03-25-2013, 10:37 PM
I need to learn to have your patience Kortney!


Unless I'm in a findom mood I'm not going for the iggy games with the broke custys. You never know who is going to show up with some real bread. Like I mentioned before, I had a custy (who is my ex sugar daddy trying to make a come back) who sat in my room all the time, then, I jokingly mentioned that too many time wasters were wasting my time, he left, came back and dropped $100 on me in private without me taking off my clothes. Then, that same day he told me that he was looking for a sugar baby but never had one before...I told him I wasn't cheap. I brushed it off and received a message from him (my old name was the same as my yahoo id) on YM as he was doing a search for my name on google. $15k later he's still around and still trying to spend money on me. My birthday is coming up and he always remembers, just today he asked if I still used pp or greendot. Sometimes ignoring the broke ones isn't in your best interest. Being open and friendly does help unless you're being a biotch on purpose lol. Giving them a nudge helps at times but if they are draining you completely, then I say block them, if not, let them continue to dote on you, it couldn't hurt your image.

VoluptiousBriadda
03-26-2013, 02:21 AM
Ive actually seriously considered adding on PSO work through NF.Ive never been a PSO before but since I dont show my real identity on cam,theres many days when I lose out on money bc I dont have enough time to get ready.

Oh to have the luxury of just hopping on whenever I want...Eventually Ill get there...

In the meantime,mama needs some $$$! I actually got into camming by researching how to become a PSO- I was getting myself all ready to be one when someone on one of their forums mentioned SW for more phone sex info.The rest is history lol.

Ive heard that NF can be quite a bitch to figure out at first but Im glad to hear that some of yall still do it.I know its extremely saturated and is slowly getting replaced by cam,but any money is better than NO money.PSO work would def fit my schedule better right now,thats for sure...*le sigh* decisions,decisions...

kortneykay
03-26-2013, 12:41 PM
PSOs still do very well on NF even without cam. However, they just brought back featured listings where if you wanna be on the first few pages you have to pay per click. Those who have built up their listings for years by their hard work are pissed off, but then there are noobs and new listings/characters who never got much exposure because they were buried by the "top" girls. We shall see how it goes. There is money to be made but you have to bring your A game because the guys leave reviews which reflect on your score. It's good to brush up on things because being a PSO takes a lot more than just showing up on cam. At least on the big box sites, once you're out of a quick show you're thrown back in with potential custys. With phone sex you can wait days, weeks, months without calls. If you are indy and have sites, you have to drive traffic to those sites and calls can still be far and few in between, even on platform sites where people ride traffic. It's not what it used to be but you can still make great money with the right resources and knowledge of the business.

Snowy0Star
03-31-2013, 01:18 AM
Wanted to bump this thread and correct myself when I was saying the min payout on All BBW is $50. Just sadly found out its $100 meaning the two BBW nich sites allbbwcams.com and justbbwcams.com both have a min payout of $100. I just singed up with Alls affiliate program and got a link so I can post it in my twitter (and anywhere else I can). Going on Just right now to see if they have an affiliate program as well.

VoluptiousBriadda
03-31-2013, 02:35 PM
PSOs still do very well on NF even without cam. However, they just brought back featured listings where if you wanna be on the first few pages you have to pay per click. Those who have built up their listings for years by their hard work are pissed off, but then there are noobs and new listings/characters who never got much exposure because they were buried by the "top" girls. We shall see how it goes. There is money to be made but you have to bring your A game because the guys leave reviews which reflect on your score. It's good to brush up on things because being a PSO takes a lot more than just showing up on cam. At least on the big box sites, once you're out of a quick show you're thrown back in with potential custys. With phone sex you can wait days, weeks, months without calls. If you are indy and have sites, you have to drive traffic to those sites and calls can still be far and few in between, even on platform sites where people ride traffic. It's not what it used to be but you can still make great money with the right resources and knowledge of the business.

Yep,thats why I never jumped in and started doing it when I decided to become a camgirl.Im a major researcher,so it took me mths (and I still research shit even after camming 8 mths lol) before I even decided to cam - I wasnt about to try and add anymore to my workload since it can be so difficult to figure everything out at first when camming.

Now that Ive been doing it long enough,I think Im gonna shift my focus to learning everything I can about NF,being a PSO,and driving traffic etc. Only once I feel knowledgeable enough will I actually start offering phone sex - I know it can take QUITE awhile to build up fans/regs for phone but it def cant hurt to try,especially since Im not able to cam nearly as much as I was at first.

Alys Butterfly
03-31-2013, 06:50 PM
I am going to start camming, and I am a very creative person, with a lot of ideas! I did check out the other bbw cam girls, and I did notice that it's not the size that put me off. It was the lack of energy from the girls on cam, and they did in fact seem bored. There sure have been thin girls who don't seem very enticing either, but this thread is about bbws, and since I am one, I was just checking out some free chats to see how bbw girls do it.
I have this urge to be the best I can be, and to put just as much energy into free chat shows as those thin girls earning lots of moolah.
I know I am going to put my best foot forward in camming, and I look forward to the journey.

In my cam shows, I will definitely:

Have clean and neat manicured/painted nails

Have clean hair, and make it look nice

Present my best face, and for me, this is going to be in makeup. I know that cams can make you look washed out. I might experiment with a more natural look, but natural doesn't mean oily, dirty unshowered, or greasy.

I am going to rock whatever sexy outfit or lingerie I can. I saw one girl with a shear see through shawl tied around her, covering her breasts. It was so creative, and cute! I am starting from 'not much' in the wardrobe, but I know I can build later.

I don't plan on just sitting and chatting. I know the best that I can do will be a little moving, and teasing, and even some games to entice people to pay!
You have to think like a man. Once you catch a little peek at something you want, you definitely get turned on and thus want more of that thing!

I am going to make my surrounding area sexy. I know I can have a well lit, uncluttered area so it is my duty to offer it. I am the fantasy woman, and showing anyone on cam that I am not a tidy or clean person can infringe on this fantasy, even though most everything else about this fantasy is sexual.
I might even light candles around the room, just to show that I am definitely ready for the part!

I am going to get a HD webcam. I am so exited about this.

I am going to prepare my games board, and anything else I can think of that will be a fun tool to use for the customers.

I am going to think of other kinky things I can use, aside form toys, because I know that some men will want to pay for that kind of thing. Other woman might not feel comfortable using and doing other kinds of kinky things, but I figure, you have to be open minded in the first place to do this, so why not try new things?

I am very inspired!

kortneykay
03-31-2013, 07:03 PM
Yep,thats why I never jumped in and started doing it when I decided to become a camgirl.Im a major researcher,so it took me mths (and I still research shit even after camming 8 mths lol) before I even decided to cam - I wasnt about to try and add anymore to my workload since it can be so difficult to figure everything out at first when camming.

Now that Ive been doing it long enough,I think Im gonna shift my focus to learning everything I can about NF,being a PSO,and driving traffic etc. Only once I feel knowledgeable enough will I actually start offering phone sex - I know it can take QUITE awhile to build up fans/regs for phone but it def cant hurt to try,especially since Im not able to cam nearly as much as I was at first.

Briadda,

I would suggest you start at a dispatch company before going indy on the NF platform. Phone sex is a entirely different realm and I'd hate for you to stumble especially since NF has the guys leaving reviews. Practicing fetishes and trying your hand out on an actual customer (dispatch) can give you a jump start.

Elysia36
03-31-2013, 08:33 PM
This doesn't just pertain to BBW, but I have seen girls who are rolling their eyes, grunting, and even ignoring guys when they are stating that they want to go pvt/ exclsv. I was in a girl's room yesterday who watched television the whole time and even rolled her eyes when she saw that someone wanted to do a block session. I know people have bad days, but I thought the point of camming was to make money. I wonder how some of these girls would feel if they went to a restaurant and were treated that way by the waitress?

Snowy0Star
03-31-2013, 10:05 PM
Show boobs then we go pvt bb.... Show boobs and if i like what i c then we go pvt ...

i wanna go pvt bb ... you ready for pvt ? ... lets go pvt then he takes you for less then a minute if 10 seconds. if they really wanted to go pvt they would just hit the fucking button not ask experinaced girls know that 9/10 when they ask they never do it the guys is just fucking with us having a carrot in our face becuase he wants see what well do becuase theyre trolls and get a kick out of sycing us out like that same with the guys that say get naked so u'll be ready to start the show as soon were in pvt they have no intention of taking u pvt or they just wanna fuck with u and see how gullible disperate r u. I had a guy just the other day go in and out of pvt so fast i never got the ding that he ever went into pvt the pvt thing was blinking and i only noticed it few min after he left he was speaking broken english too and trying to ask me to stand and show boobs demanding left and right and right at me and every time i told him 5 gold or in pvt only im thinking he thupght pvt was free or something. one thing i do not understand about guys on sm is i have my room settings for card members only so i still cant understand why so many guys think that i'm just sitting in my knickers talking to them for "free" then leave when i demand they pay me when they demand i do something for them.

Does anyone know if Just BBW cams has tipping? I've been asked to stand and show ass boobs and feet and i tell them in pvt only then they always leave.

kortneykay
04-01-2013, 09:12 AM
You hit the nail on the head Nerd :) I noticed I also banked back when I would do theme days. I remember doing my hair in pigtails and wearing my slutty school girl uniform on IMlive and going in and out of pvts all day. I had 500 guys in my room at that time. Those were the days :) I think once I move out I will set up more fantasy theme days, I think it would be a lot of fun for me and the clients. I do agree, this is a business, waitresses on a bad day still don't usually roll their eyes in front of their customers because they still depend on those tips when they leave. With camming, you can be stern but don't let them see you crack. Always be in control and stay focused on your main goal which is to make that money.

missiecakes
04-02-2013, 05:05 PM
Does anyone know if Just BBW cams has tipping? I've been asked to stand and show ass boobs and feet and i tell them in pvt only then they always leave.

I don't think they have the tipping function enabled right now. I was on there a month ago in my customer account and it still shows as "coming soon" or something along that phrasing.

BBWvixenDom
04-02-2013, 05:09 PM
I am also a bbw cam girl and I must say I don't do bad on the traffic :)

kortneykay
04-02-2013, 08:16 PM
It just proves that men like women period and weight would've never have had any bearing on things if it hadn't been for a "standard". We as women are meant to be attractive and weight has nothing to do with that. Most (not all, but MOST) guys who aren't attracted to big women have at one point in their lives been a victim of societal or peer pressures. Something or someone most likely changed their views and that's okay with me because I'll take the ones I know I can squeeze money out of. Oh, the joys of being a woman. Also, I can usually convert a fat basher with one glance in free chat and laugh wickedly as they continuously spend their money on my fat jiggly ass and tits in a pvt show bb :D

VoluptiousBriadda
04-02-2013, 10:01 PM
Briadda,

I would suggest you start at a dispatch company before going indy on the NF platform. Phone sex is a entirely different realm and I'd hate for you to stumble especially since NF has the guys leaving reviews. Practicing fetishes and trying your hand out on an actual customer (dispatch) can give you a jump start.

I had originally intended to start out doing dispatch but after reading soooo many bad things about so many of them,and also finding out that a ton of the ones that girls actually recommended allow taboo phone,I started to think indie was the way to go.Ive read over and over from vets that dispatch isnt worth it and that you should just plunge into indie if you want to make money,especially if you have any knowledge of roleplay/fetishes like in camming.So thats why I had thought NF was the way to go.

But I know youve been doing phone forever now and I highly respect your opinion (you know Briadda lurvs her Kortney) so sounds like I need to regroup and look for a dispatch company that would be right for ME. I know there are ones out there that dont do taboo,I just have to find one thats also worth it.I know taboo is a highly debated topic,but theres just some of them Im not comfortable doing on cam,so I cant see that changing much on phone either.

I know the answer to this already but Im gonna ask anyway just for verification - is phone roleplay/fetishes really that different from camming RP/fetishes? Obviously some of the guys are super into it and very specific and I love em for it but most still tend not to do C2C.Still others want a certain RP/fantasy but refuse to say shit/guide me/turn their cam on so Im pretty much winging it myself the entire time.

And now that Ive totally derailed the thread,sorry ladies,Ill just shoot ya a PM so we can get this back on topic lol

kortneykay
04-03-2013, 11:02 AM
I had originally intended to start out doing dispatch but after reading soooo many bad things about so many of them,and also finding out that a ton of the ones that girls actually recommended allow taboo phone,I started to think indie was the way to go.Ive read over and over from vets that dispatch isnt worth it and that you should just plunge into indie if you want to make money,especially if you have any knowledge of roleplay/fetishes like in camming.So thats why I had thought NF was the way to go.

But I know youve been doing phone forever now and I highly respect your opinion (you know Briadda lurvs her Kortney) so sounds like I need to regroup and look for a dispatch company that would be right for ME. I know there are ones out there that dont do taboo,I just have to find one thats also worth it.I know taboo is a highly debated topic,but theres just some of them Im not comfortable doing on cam,so I cant see that changing much on phone either.

I know the answer to this already but Im gonna ask anyway just for verification - is phone roleplay/fetishes really that different from camming RP/fetishes? Obviously some of the guys are super into it and very specific and I love em for it but most still tend not to do C2C.Still others want a certain RP/fantasy but refuse to say shit/guide me/turn their cam on so Im pretty much winging it myself the entire time.

And now that Ive totally derailed the thread,sorry ladies,Ill just shoot ya a PM so we can get this back on topic lol

I love you too BriBri ;) You know, I've always heard the opposite from the vets, BUT you could just do what I did when I was 15. Grab a cosmo mag, or do a google search and call the free for women lines in the back for practice. The thing with that is that most of the guys on there aren't really going to request non taboos because they think you're just a girl next door calling a line like them. With phone sex you usually have a character and the guy feeds off of the way that character looks, what fetishes she offers, etc. You don't have to do dispatch if you don't want, but I think it's great practice.

To answer your question concerning the difference between RP/Fetishes on cam and on phone, yes, they can be VERY different. With cam, what you see is what you get. Most cam sites don't allow no taboo RP/Talk. With phone, you only have your imagination and content photos. You literally have to think on your back. Phone sex with no restrictions allows both the PSO and customer to go as far as they want and the guys take advantage of that. No taboo phone sex allows you to be a fat woman, a skinny blonde, a 12 yr old girl (sorry, but it's true) a mistress, a shemale, whatever you or the customer chooses. It can get very dark, very fast and since it's a conversation between two consenting adults, it's allowed unless your state prohibits it. On cam, you can't play that milf/etc because you are only one person. Your RP is a bit limited. Now you can be a school girl, mistress, etc but you can't pretend to be a fat girl on cam unless you're really fat haha. Basically, if it's a no taboo phone sex convo there are no boundaries, with camming there are lots as you are being physically broadcasted and are visible. A customer can ask you to do only so much on cam before crossing boundaries, on the phone there literally are none unless you work for a taboo company.

NF has a lot of rules, so the extreme things you aren't really even allowed to talk about. But, you still have to learn to get the person off without using your physical body. Men are visual so camming has great rewards, with phone sex he can only see your pics, or content pics and is solely going to reach orgasm listening to your voice. You're going to need to coax him to that point so he calls you back. Your mouth, mind, and imagination is all you really have with phone sex.

Snowy0Star
04-03-2013, 01:15 PM
I love you too BriBri ;) You know, I've always heard the opposite from the vets, BUT you could just do what I did when I was 15. Grab a cosmo mag, or do a google search and call the free for women lines in the back for practice. The thing with that is that most of the guys on there aren't really going to request non taboos because they think you're just a girl next door calling a line like them. With phone sex you usually have a character and the guy feeds off of the way that character looks, what fetishes she offers, etc. You don't have to do dispatch if you don't want, but I think it's great practice.

To answer your question concerning the difference between RP/Fetishes on cam and on phone, yes, they can be VERY different. With cam, what you see is what you get. Most cam sites don't allow no taboo RP/Talk. With phone, you only have your imagination and content photos. You literally have to think on your back. Phone sex with no restrictions allows both the PSO and customer to go as far as they want and the guys take advantage of that. No taboo phone sex allows you to be a fat woman, a skinny blonde, a 12 yr old girl (sorry, but it's true) a mistress, a shemale, whatever you or the customer chooses. It can get very dark, very fast and since it's a conversation between two consenting adults, it's allowed unless your state prohibits it. On cam, you can't play that milf/etc because you are only one person. Your RP is a bit limited. Now you can be a school girl, mistress, etc but you can't pretend to be a fat girl on cam unless you're really fat haha. Basically, if it's a no taboo phone sex convo there are no boundaries, with camming there are lots as you are being physically broadcasted and are visible. A customer can ask you to do only so much on cam before crossing boundaries, on the phone there literally are none unless you work for a taboo company.

NF has a lot of rules, so the extreme things you aren't really even allowed to talk about. But, you still have to learn to get the person off without using your physical body. Men are visual so camming has great rewards, with phone sex he can only see your pics, or content pics and is solely going to reach orgasm listening to your voice. You're going to need to coax him to that point so he calls you back. Your mouth, mind, and imagination is all you really have with phone sex.

OMG that is genius I am sooo going to do this to get practice! How will you know if you're "doing it" for the guy tho? Will you just know?

kortneykay
04-03-2013, 01:40 PM
If you don't know how to make a guy orgasm this won't be the business for you lol.

QUEENOFCURVES
04-03-2013, 06:36 PM
sure they do why wont they get privs hmmmmm
Word. I've seen so many posts about bbws being "dirty" or never getting privates lately. I just keep thinking that those model lurkers can't see our sexy selves because we're too busy making $$$$. If they do catch us glistening it's probably because we just got done having amazing orgasms : )

I honestly think that if you're a bbw not making money, it must be because you don't know you're sexy.

kortneykay
04-03-2013, 06:43 PM
Because their attitude most likely sucks like yours does.

kortneykay
04-03-2013, 10:53 PM
I hope you ladies are having a profitable and fantastic week. I took a mini break but come Monday I should be back in the game. I ordered a few new beauty items and I'm ready to pop some cocks and empty some bank accounts! Who's with me? LOL.

bbw_nasima
04-03-2013, 11:19 PM
i am new to camming and decide to sign up now,been on streamate and i do good ..thanks to my friend she told me it not bad and she was right

Snowy0Star
04-15-2013, 07:00 PM
bump

so i'm at $99.80 in all bbw payout is $100 - so close but so far away. i just got done with my after camming daily bath but i think im gonna eat watch some streaming anime (i just got hooked into Fairy Tale lol) and try to work this wet hear in bathrobe out of the shower thing and see what i can make happen

Got payout W00t bye bye All BBW Cams. I went into my file today is April 15 and the first time i logged on their was Dec 4 last year

VoluptiousBriadda
04-15-2013, 10:33 PM
^^Only took ya four months ya say?..

33312

Run future fat camgirls run! Ok well,walk briskly,very briskly!

I knew there was a reason I decided not to go with this site,I dont blame ya for bouncin Snowy! Giving you kudos for sticking it out long enough to reach payout,Im too goddamn impatient!

Snowy0Star
04-15-2013, 10:40 PM
^^Only took ya four months ya say?..

33312

Run future fat camgirls run! Ok well,walk briskly,very briskly!

I knew there was a reason I decided not to go with this site,I dont blame ya for bouncin Snowy! Giving you kudos for sticking it out long enough to reach payout,Im too goddamn impatient!

haha thax im extending my time on sm from 7-9 to 5-9 now i still need payout on just bbw i have $45 in that account and payout is $100 but im just going to log in there when i watch my anime after my after work day bath if i never make payout on there o well i may not because the guys on that site tend to only get shows with the SSBBWs i kept getting asked if im a feeder and planning on getting bigger and i say yes (even tho i work out everyday) to try and make them happy but they never go for it and ive talked to some other girls on here about and they get the same thing. so if anyone whos around my size or not SSBBW and has some tricks to get them to go pvt please share i wont be competition for long lol

VoluptiousBriadda
04-15-2013, 10:52 PM
haha thax im extending my time on sm from 7-9 to 5-9 now i still need payout on just bbw i have $45 in that account and payout is $100 but im just going to log in there when i watch my anime after my after work day bath if i never make payout on there o well i may not because the guys on that site tend to only get shows with the SSBBWs i kept getting asked if im a feeder and planning on getting bigger and i say yes (even tho i work out everyday) to try and make them happy but they never go for it and ive talked to some other girls on here about and they get the same thing. so if anyone whos around my size or not SSBBW and has some tricks to get them to go pvt please share i wont be competition for long lol

Ive heard the exact same thing - only the SSBBW's get paid on these kinds of sites.Most of us are considered "too small",even if you insist youre gaining.Even if a guy asks if you want to be his feeder,they want you to drop mothafuckin 100 lbs on your hips and thighs before theyll take you private....tmrw lol I have a hard time pleasing the die hard fat fetish fans but eh thats just me,Im sure there are PLENTY of angles Im just too impatient to work or havent thought of yet.

Honestly though - its been said time and time again but why be on a site that offers the same menu over and over? I want to be what the chef recommends that night, or a special dessert,NOT a sammich at Subway where its all the same except for the fixins! Id much rather stand out on a site than blend in with the rest.

ABigNerd
04-16-2013, 12:31 AM
Can I ask you ladies, honestly what your rates are on SM? I'm at $4.99/$5.99, and I'm kind of afraid to go any higher. My experience tells me that it doesn't matter what my rates are, I'll spend the same percentage of time in paid chat. However, I see some of the most popular models advertising $1.99 or $2.99/minute. I usually spend between 40-50% of my time in paid chat now, and my body can't take more than a few hours unless I'm having a fetish-heavy day.

I guess I'd like to hear from ladies with higher rates. What are your rates? How much time do you spend in paid chat? Did you lose any of your regulars after raising your rates?

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 12:48 AM
theyre probably popular because theyre at the point where they have a following enuf to be able to lower their rates and have multiple ppl in a pvt at a time when i started on sm i was at 3.99 and would sit for hours sometimes all day with no pvt. i started back up again last week and started at .99 ive been in pvt most of the day since then but ive been raising it 5 cents everyday and i plan on doing that until i get to 2.70 because I did the math and that comes out to $1 a min my cut and even tho its not great its better then sitting for hours in pvt making nothing. after i can see myself in the first 10 pages ill start slowly raising my rates again eventually i want to get up to $3 my cut but i think by then ill have lost the weight and be able to go back to MFC and chaturbate witch i have put on the back burner and i only log into mfc to work out and try to get tiped to dance topless and naked (i play dance dance revolution for 2-3 hours) ive been taking green tea pills and ive already noticed my tummy and thighs have gotten a tad smaller.

VoluptiousBriadda
04-16-2013, 12:49 AM
Im charging what you are Nerd - but Ive also been camming EXTREMELY erratic since I got sick in December. I keep trying to get back into a routine,but shit keeps hitting the fan every week.This is also why Im not in Verified yet,I never know when Ill be on for Teh Shookz to verify me (yeaaaa,I know,its not great for building regulars I know..)

Most likely,had I cammed consecutively from the time I started in August until now,I probably would have raised my rates again by now.BUT unfortunately,Ive noticed that many BBW's on SM do not charge alot. Maybe Im missing all of the more expensive ones,since I do cam so sporadically? I dont want to say that my experience is for sure concrete proof that all BBW's charge what we do or less,for Gods sake,I sure as fuck hope not!!

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 12:53 AM
Im charging what you are Nerd - but Ive also been camming EXTREMELY erratic since I got sick in December. I keep trying to get back into a routine,but shit keeps hitting the fan every week.This is also why Im not in Verified yet,I never know when Ill be on for Teh Shookz to verify me (yeaaaa,I know,its not great for building regulars I know..)

Most likely,had I cammed consecutively from the time I started in August until now,I probably would have raised my rates again by now.BUT unfortunately,Ive noticed that many BBW's on SM do not charge alot. Maybe Im missing all of the more expensive ones,since I do cam so sporadically? I dont want to say that my experience is for sure concrete proof that all BBW's charge what we do or less,for Gods sake,I sure as fuck hope not!!

since i dont have a custie account on sm i cant for sure but i was dumb and put my chips as far as time goes on the bbw sites and we know how that went but on all and just the models prices are listed for everyone to see no one charges more then $4 so as sad as that is maybe it is our max .....

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 01:37 AM
so i just got this interesting email from all bbw cams

AllBBWCams <[email protected]>
4:32 AM (2 minutes ago)

to me
Hello Performer Snowy0Star,
A VERIFIED customer XXXXXXXXXXX wants to have a private show with you right now!
Go online to ALL BBW CAMS and make money, he is waiting to you!

Login URL is: http://www.allbbwcams.com/cams/performer/login
Your username is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX
Your password is: XXXXXXXXXXx

Remember! Only verified customers who have already spent money on the site can invite you for private shows, even when you are offline! In this case, when you go online, customer allan4you will also get an automated email that you are online so he can try to find you as well.

Thank you,
ALL BBW CAMS


so i logged in just for shits and giggles and theres only 2 guys in my room both arent the dude from the email with a few pennies in their account just staring at me FML lol

kortneykay
04-16-2013, 09:08 AM
[email protected], that fucking sucks! Like, why not let the customers contact us to set something up. It sounds good until you realize that you may not get to your email quick enough or you're not home or around your computer lol.

AbigNerd I charge $5.99/7.99 on SM and $5.80 on Imlive and got privates. I just started a new SM account but I know they were eating it up when I was at $4.99 so I'm sure one dollar won't be an issue. Also, I'll get the "new girl" tag and I have a different look. I will be most likely starting at 4-6 hours 5 days a week in free chat and eventually doing goldshows while doing housework/voyeur and mixing them both. I also have a few tricks up my sleeves that I will be putting into full swing very soon. I may lower my prices to $2.99/3.99 ONE day a week and I'll even dub it "Cheap Thursdays" or something as my room topic to test the waters. Other than that I don't plan on lowering my rate as I feel I'm more than qualified to charge $5.99/7.99 as a BBW. It may be a bit expensive for them, but doing crazy shit on cam (and being recorded) for $1-2 per min is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. It still annoys me that the big box sites are getting the larger percentage when they aren't the ones stripping their clothes off for all to see. Some people can't get away with charging a lot, and I get that, but I'd at least want to get paid well for this shit.

VoluptiousBriadda
04-16-2013, 10:12 AM
I think you just have to find your "sweet spot" as its referred to.I dont ever condone charging dirt cheap prices but at the same time,to each their own,especially if there is an angle to it.If youve been at say 4.99 for 8 mths,work every day and you are still sitting in free for 4 hours without a private at a time,its either time to change up some pricing,your hustle,your room,stream etc

Im not willing to pound it all day for the same amount of money that I would have gotten for 15 min worth of work if I had just charged more,but I understand that some ladies have babies to feed and bills to pay and they literally just "dont have time f' dat".Instead of sitting around all day wondering if anyone is going to take them private,they lower rates and rake it in,albeit they inevitably DO work harder for it.

But if at the end of the day,you make MORE money at a slightly lower price? I say go for it. Dropping all the way down to bare minimum (sorry Snowy,not directed at you) is never something Id recommend,but if theres a plan in mind,then heeey,whatever works that hustle and brings in money as opposed to NOT bringing in shit (or barely) is a success to me.I'd personally raise it and raise it as fast as I could once I brought in more traffic but hey,thats just me.

Ive also wondered how much the average BBW charges on SM and how high some of the most expensive ones actually go.Good question BigNerd,although the more expensive ones may not actually divulge what they charge LOL

Id wager that the BBW's that charge more are the ones that are a part of this forum,just sayin'..

Snowy0Star
04-16-2013, 04:52 PM
i emailed support on just bbw cams to see if they can close my account and pay me if not o well

angelzimm
04-23-2013, 05:49 PM
SMMFDH!.....sigh of, what feeling is this....It feels like disappointment though I know I should know better than to care this much...I am looking at albbwcams main screen and most of the girls that are in Free Chat are at 1.99 private. I wanted to tell them they were all worth so much more, but I don't want to be trolling all over them so I just wanted to come here and blow off some steam and tell those of you that are listening to CHARGE WHAT YOU ARE WORTH, even a street ho is worth more than 120 an hour! A cheap one gets 150 and sadly I know a lot of ho's lol. Not to say either profession is better or worse, but the people that see you on cam are paying to be in front of you, they could have a street ho but they can have you in their comfort zone, and you are such a fuckinig hottie that they don't even get to touch you and they have to PAY! Out the ass and up the nose. That type of thinking usuallu helps me make more on cam, and my rates go up the more regular customers I get, HOW CAN YOU CHARGE SO LITTEL?
If charging 1.99 helps anyone listening, I am sorry to say that this is the smallest amount of money the site will let you charge for yourself and you could be helping yourself much more by actually charging niche prices. BBW has its own website WTF are we doing charging less than top sites? Just my theory.

Also the e-mails from the "verified customers" works with my regulars. Thankfully I have a smartphone and get email notifications. If my regular is not online when I get on, I wait or go back the same time next day...its a hell of a lot better than sitting in free for 50 hours a month and getting the small incentive they offer.

Okay So I hope no one is offended and I am just speaking what I feel to be the truth. So PLEASE raise your rates girls!

NONE BELOW 2.99

CAN WE ALL PLEDGE TO THAT?

angelzimm
04-23-2013, 05:52 PM
SMMFDH!.....sigh of, what feeling is this....It feels like disappointment though I know I should know better than to care this much...I am looking at albbwcams main screen and most of the girls that are in Free Chat are at 1.99 private. I wanted to tell them they were all worth so much more, but I don't want to be trolling all over them so I just wanted to come here and blow off some steam and tell those of you that are listening to CHARGE WHAT YOU ARE WORTH, even a street ho is worth more than 120 an hour (which is like 2.00/min)! A cheap one gets 150 an hour and sadly I know a lot of ho's to validate that, lol. Not to say either profession is better or worse, but the people that see you on cam are paying to be in front of you, they could have a street ho but they can have you in their comfort zone, and you are such a fuckinig hottie that they don't even get to touch you and they have to PAY! Out the ass and up the nose. That type of thinking usually helps me make more on cam, and my rates go up the more regular customers I get, HOW CAN YOU CHARGE SO LITTLE?
If charging 1.99 helps anyone listening, I am sorry to say that this is the smallest amount of money the site will let you charge for yourself and you could be helping yourself much more by actually charging niche prices. BBW has its own website WTF are we doing charging less than top sites? Just my POV.

Also the e-mails from the "verified customers" works with my regulars. Thankfully I have a smartphone and get email notifications. If my regular is not online when I get on, I wait or go back the same time next day...its a hell of a lot better than sitting in free for 50 hours a month and getting the small incentive they offer. The incentives are B.S as well.

Okay So I hope no one is offended and I am just speaking what I feel to be the truth. So PLEASE raise your rates girls!

NONE BELOW 2.99

CAN WE ALL PLEDGE TO THAT? What do you think?

kortneykay
04-23-2013, 07:06 PM
I agree, bb! I charge $5.99 private and $7.99 exclusive and I still get plenty of shows. Enough to make my daily minimum which is only $100. I also log out as soon as I make it so I know that if I stay on I can pull another few hundred. Charge what you are worth, don't go cheap just because you feel that you won't get in pvts unless you charge less. We need to start taking back control and letting these guys know that yeah, they can have the free tube sites and free porn but in order to see a LIVE girl they need to be paying what we ask. We are getting way too less from the big sites NOT to ask for a larger chunk from customers.

angelzimm
04-23-2013, 07:11 PM
Thank you ladies. I knew I was not alone. I am going back online soon and hope we can raise the rate higher, we are all worth so much more.

I agree, bb! I charge $5.99 private and $7.99 exclusive and I still get plenty of shows. Enough to make my daily minimum which is only $100. I also log out as soon as I make it so I know that if I stay on I can pull another few hundred. Charge what you are worth, don't go cheap just because you feel that you won't get in pvts unless you charge less. We need to start taking back control and letting these guys know that yeah, they can have the free tube sites and free porn but in order to see a LIVE girl they need to be paying what we ask. We are getting way too less from the big sites NOT to ask for a larger chunk from customers.

MarleyCat
04-23-2013, 11:17 PM
I have mine set at 5.99/6.99 after asking to raise my rates from 4.99/5.99. Nobody has complained but one regular who noticed.

But guess what? He ended up paying anyway and was loving it like usual!

You're worth more and the ones who really want you will pay. Don't let them get you down. :)