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bem401
03-02-2012, 04:17 PM
Bem, you can repeat this over and over and it won't make you any more accurate or more qualified speak to the opinions of society, but rather just nonsensically repetitive.

I guess you're right Rick. Society thinks the world of clubs, dancers, and SC patrons and the more time a patron spends there, the higher the regard in which he is held.




How do you know what a majority of guys go to clubs for? Is there a comprehensive poll somewhere that I am not aware of? Do suppositions based upon seriously limited data sets qualify as facts where you come from? I'm starting to believe so given the way in which you make broad, sweeping statements about what the majority of guys go to clubs for and what society thinks of those guys when you have no way of knowing whether anything you are saying is true. :O

If you aren't in a strip club for "companionship or to to see females in the flesh" (your words), other than to kill an hour in familiar surroundings, why else would you be there?

yoda57us
03-02-2012, 05:57 PM
Once again, you still haven't learned to read what was written:

1. Where was I judgmental about anything?
2. Where did I mention respect from other customers?

I merely stated points you chose not to address. If you are a SC regular, society as a whole views you as a loser, as does a decent percentage of dancers. If you disagree with that, feel free to disagree with it. but explain why. Whether they are right to feel that way was not something I commented on. As far as the "respect of other customers", I mentioned neither "other customers" nor "respect". On top of that, I never mentioned anyone specifically, but for some reason, you stoop to personal comments because you have some sort of problem with the fact that the "customer thing" doesn't last forever for some guys.


And you still haven't learned that we all get to read each others posts and decide what WE think they mean. Your intent may be whatever you want it to be but I still get to form my own opinion based on the words you type.

I couldn't care less if your status as a customer is in the past or present tense Bem. Your comments on this site are what I respond to. They are judgmental to say the very least and, for the most part, not accurate in anyone's mind other than yours...



At no point was this a criticism of anyone's type of SC patronage until the two of you went down that route to avoid the issue at hand. FWIW, whether you are there to drop several hundred or just kill an hour, you won't be held in high regard either way by anyone except perhaps people who do exactly the same thing.

How are we "avoiding" anything Bem? You stated an opinion and we took exception to it. Your post WAS actually a criticism of just about anyone who has ever set foot in a strip club more than once. What "society" thinks is irrelevant. Customers are not looking for approval anymore than dancers are, you simply get your jollies from posting this holier-than thou passive-aggressive BS whenever you see an opportunity to promote the world according to Bem and his hugely over-sized superiority complex.

All Good Things
03-02-2012, 06:59 PM
How do you know what a majority of guys go to clubs for? Is there a comprehensive poll somewhere that I am not aware of?

About two pages ago we crossed the point where everybody stopped reading this, so I'll just throw this in, because it's relevant to any discussion of why regulars behave the way they do.

While there is no "comprehensive poll" about why most guys go to strip clubs, there's a mountain of sociological research that's been written on regulars in strip clubs in the last 20 years. And if you have about a decade of free time available, you could read it.

The best are by sociologists-turned-dancers-turned-sociologists like R. Danielle Egan (PhD., Boston College), Katherin Frank (PhD., Duke University) and Merri Lisa Johnson (PhD., Binghamton University).

While I don't generally find sociological research all that convincing -- there are biases you could drive a truck through, among other problems -- the interviews, surveys and re-interviews with customers can be very interesting.

So to save you a decade of reading about strip clubs when you'd rather be going to them instead, like any sensible person, here's what Katherine Frank says about regulars and what they do in "G-Strings and Sympathy: Strip Club Regulars and Male Desire" (Duke University Press, 2002).

The reasons regulars go to strip clubs, by far the most common answer:

1. To relax. Best quote -- "It's a safe place to be when you are married and seeking sexual stimulation."

Includes:

A. An escape from work and home, often described as an escape from the demands of work and home -- obligations, conflicts and commitments.

B. Ability to pursue traditionally "masculine activities" and engage in male activities normally frowned upon -- cigar smoking, drinking, flirting and talking with hot girls

C. Absence of competition with other males for girls' attention

D. Relative degree of safety and excitement

[Note -- The fact that this scores first across the board goes a long way towards explaining the "non-spending regular" phenomenon we all love to hate.]

2. Opportunity for personal and sexual acceptance by womenIncludes:

A. The importance of conversation, acceptance, being treated by attractive women in a way they may not be treated outside the club

B. Pleasure of a sexualized encounter

C. Lack of judgment about them

3. Freedom

A. "What do men get out of it? The advantage of being able to walk away. No mess, no fuss, no big deal."

B. Freedom of choice within the club

Other reasons: Adventure, variety, travel, fun and escape.

unbeleavable
03-02-2012, 07:05 PM
My conclusion is Bem saw himself as a loser & thus all Regs are losers. I was never a reg but I know different as I've meet some & people go for all reasons...

ArmySGT.
03-02-2012, 07:14 PM
Moderators, Moderate thyself.

unbeleavable
03-02-2012, 07:15 PM
I would say report the post...

rickdugan
03-02-2012, 07:45 PM
I guess you're right Rick. Society thinks the world of clubs, dancers, and SC patrons and the more time a patron spends there, the higher the regard in which he is held.

Bem, you are going in circles now. This has been raised and answered. My response was included in post #37 above, which I've pasted below.

I've directly contested your points multiple times by saying that you are talking out of your ass if you think that you speak for everyone or society as a whole. Are there vocal elements that dislike clubs and their patrons? Absolutely, as do some others who hold particular moral or other beliefs. But on the flip side, billions of dollars are spent on adult entertainment each year, including strip clubs, so quite obviously there is a significant number of people who do NOT share those views...

Idk, but I think that you need to get out of your own head a bit and think about this more broadly. IMHO you are taking your own narrow interpretations of what is and is not acceptable and trying to present them as those held by "society as a whole", but it simply doesn't work. We live in a diverse country with a variety of opinions and worldviews, not all of which are the same as those held by you or even the PC types that you claim represent the views of everyone.

IMHO this nonsense that you are posting is just another version of the same judgmental crap that you have been spouting, in one form or another, since I have been on this site. Idk why you feel the need to continually question and/or criticize the very practices that you used to engage in - self loathing perhaps? But whatever your reasons for doing so, I wholeheartedly disagree with the notion that those purported societal views are shared quite so broadly. If they were, then I sincerely doubt that there would be over 3000 strip clubs nationwide serving millions of people each year and likely generating billions in gross revenues.


If you aren't in a strip club for "companionship or to to see females in the flesh" (your words), other than to kill an hour in familiar surroundings, why else would you be there?

I said that there are other options for patrons who simply needed companionship or to see females in the flesh, not that those things were not part of the overall SC equation. In fact, this is yet another example of you being stuck in your own little microcosm as there are many clubs out there in higher hustle areas where companionship is not really on tap at all. Once again, you are taking what YOU were looking for when you were a SC regular and are projecting it upon everyone else.

yoda57us
03-02-2012, 07:58 PM
Moderators, Moderate thyself.

Being a mod doesn't mean we aren't allowed to have an opinion or participate in discussion threads...no matter how inane they may become.

That being said, this particular circle jerk has gone on long enough.

Thanks for playing!