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Nikki_Fox
03-13-2012, 05:25 PM
Where i work the fee is 1000.00 - but they break it up so you dont pay it all at once -you pay out more frequently till it is paid - not unusual to have several hundred dollars of agency money in one night, and i have seen girls come in get a couple of calls and take off with the money - it sucks that those ladies mess it up for everyone else - ask if you have to pay up front or is it broken down - what are the policy or guidelines to get your money back when you leave - and make sure it is in your written agreement

littlemissbliss
03-13-2012, 05:32 PM
Might be a moot point anyway - I tried o email them, and the email bounced back saying it failed to send. I sent a message through a form on the site saying I tried to submit an application and wasn't able to, could I use an alternate email - nada. I haven't seen anything about this agency on the TER, or anywhere else - I'm wondering if it's still really even in existence, or if it's under a new name now - it came up first in a google search for agencies in the city. Kinda weird, who knows.

I agree that photos are a good place to start. I'm unsure of a photographer to ask. I've had some some nice ones done by a guy I knew several years ago. I could possibly ask what he would charge for something like that again, assuming he's still doing them.

littlemissbliss
03-13-2012, 05:38 PM
There are some decent agencies in Atlanta, but not as many as I would have expected, (although I'm sure there are some that don't advertise). Aside from the one that I liked that I didn't hear back from, the others didn't feel as much of a fit for me. Maybe I need to think some more about what's my best approach.

I saw on the TER that an experienced upper end escort made a mistake, and went on a week long vacation with a client from another state to the Caribbean. Well, she gets there, and realizes he's a big jerk, and tells him I'm sorry, but I can't go through with it, and offers to just take 4k instead of the full 10k for the trip. He was a total dickhead about it of course, and it became a big mess. Obviously it wasn't a good idea to go away w/someone you've never met, but I worry about the same kind of thing happening even on a regular data. I guess it's easier to extract yourself from that situation if it's a single date, but it still must be somewhat awkward.

BlkSharpie
03-16-2012, 10:31 PM
Sharpie - yes, in regards to start up costs, I was referring to a website, photography, ads, etc. I know in order to get the right kind of clientele, I need to make sure those are all good quality.

I agree with startin goff slow..you're not going to get the type of guys you want to see off the bat as it is to be honest...I got lucky with my very first guy, but saw a lot of average to sub-average joe's till I built up my reputation and raised my prices into the right range. It didnt take long though...I gave myself a raise after about 2mths, and another one 6m later.

Anyway, I do suggest a decent website...I designed my own, but if you dont have web skills, get someone to make one for you...a range of $250 or so should be good enough of a start for a really basic website with a nice design til you make enough money to upgrade it. But, do not at all hesitate to just get your domain ($8/yr) and hosting (around $30/yr), install Wordpress and a neat looking free template til you can get the cash to have a site built for you. I would just avoid the free escort sites...they look free. Anyway, all in all $38-$300.

Advertising and memberships, Id say get VerifyHim ($30/3mths) for the blacklist and database search is a must for screening. Some ladies also subscribe to peoplefinders and such, but I just use VerifyHim and good ol google. Now, when I first started, I paid for memberships on all the sites I advertised on. Ended up not being worth it, and Eros wasnt worth it for me either...but my first month I paid a little over $200. Now I just pay for my VerifyHim subscription.

Supplies, depends on what you have on hand to start with and what you need to buy. A few nice bra/panty sets (the only lingerie I have is what guys have bought for me along the way...) makeup, anything to fix up your hair, shaving/waxing/mani/pedi costs, condoms, lube, and I also add hydrogen peroxide, tea tree oil, anit-bacterial soap to my supplies bill. Im super basic...I dont keep toys on hand, or props or anything particularly special. I usually bring smart water, one for each of us for the date though. My initial cost for this was pretty low.

Professional pics can come out of your earnings I think...I havnt even gotten around to that yet and still take all the photos myself so I dont know the cost, but if you have problems taking really good quality pics on your own to advertise with, Id suggest going with pro ones.

Anyway, you dont have to have everything upfront to start....a website, whatever screening method, advertising, have pics, condoms, lube and well..for me the anti-bacterial soap, hydrogen peroxide and gum (which I spit out or swallow (har har) just before my date starts) are also must haves.


I would like to get started on a local discussion board, but so far I've only seen the TER boards for my city. And it seems to be the same few people posting over and over again. I'm not crazy about the whole review thing anyway - I understand that's how you establish a reputation, but I feel like the kind of clients I would want would be turned off by that kind of thing, and probably wouldn't have the time to post details like that anyway. I'm hoping I can figure something out that is right for me.

Keep searching...if you live in a major city, there is a local board for your area, and if you live in a smaller city, then the major city closest to you will likely have a section for your area. There are local boards for every region in the country...I have 19 local boards in my bookmarks including 3 for Florida and the rest around the country on hand for when I tour. That doesnt include the National boards I have bookmarked which include TER...

BlkSharpie
03-16-2012, 10:40 PM
There are some decent agencies in Atlanta, but not as many as I would have expected, (although I'm sure there are some that don't advertise). Aside from the one that I liked that I didn't hear back from, the others didn't feel as much of a fit for me. Maybe I need to think some more about what's my best approach.

I saw on the TER that an experienced upper end escort made a mistake, and went on a week long vacation with a client from another state to the Caribbean. Well, she gets there, and realizes he's a big jerk, and tells him I'm sorry, but I can't go through with it, and offers to just take 4k instead of the full 10k for the trip. He was a total dickhead about it of course, and it became a big mess. Obviously it wasn't a good idea to go away w/someone you've never met, but I worry about the same kind of thing happening even on a regular data. I guess it's easier to extract yourself from that situation if it's a single date, but it still must be somewhat awkward.

This is a really good example why one should never travel with or to see a guy when meeting him for the first time. I will do extended dates the first time I meet a guy, but not overnights...I did one time and it was a *disaster!!!!* thats just too long to spend with someone for the first time, and also...when traveling, the last thing anyone wants it to be at some guys mercy.

Another thing, for travel dates, I do require a deposit upfront..so far Ive yet to have anyone take issue with it. Most ladies seem to require 50%, I only require 30%, but even so...if the total was $10k, if she had gotten a deposit, she wouldve already had $3-$5k in hand before she even got there...and the rest as soon as she arrived, before the date even got off to its start. I also require the money to book my own trip, so I have my return ticket already as well. ts all a learning experience...Ive heard many horror stories, esp on the lines of women getting stranded with no money when the guy didnt pay, or a way to get home because they didnt get the ticket home yet and refuse to let that happen to me.

CFMNH44
03-19-2012, 09:39 AM
I'm not an expert but I can't imagine committing to spending a weekend with someone having never met before. Most escort sites say they won't consider overnights until they've met. Just common sense from both the customer and escort's point of view.
Agencies can give good experience starting out, but some do not provide much screening for their cut. (This may be old info, Massachusetts agencies are now tightening their screening due to the Attorney General's desire to 'stop trafficking'... )
Has the OP considered submitting professional photos to agencies? That may set you apart from their average applicants... Highlight your best features, camouflage any negatives...
One more thought, you can request 'no reviews', or at least ask that they not be explicit. You may loose some business from guys that want BBBJCIMNQNS or some other alphabet soup, but the critical purpose of reviews is safety and making sure the other party isn't LE...

littlemissbliss
03-19-2012, 04:12 PM
It was definitely a bad idea. The guy did pay her up front, but it still wound up being a nightmare. She said he was rude and obnoxious and smoked constantly. She wound up getting drunk the entire time to deal with him, and she wound up accepting a gift from him, *after* she told him she couldn't go through with the deal. Then of course he got extra pissed, threatened to write a nasty review, etc, etc.

Sharpie, thanks for your tips. I'm really not sure what direction to take. Becoming a higher end escort is much more complicated than I think the general public out there would ever guess. It's not like you just wake up one day and become a high end companion.

I feel like I need to save up some more money right now, before I can go about it the right way. Joining an agency would get me "established", but the ones around here all participate heavily in the review boards, and I can't afford to have that much information floating around out there about me. I'd rather take the time to have a nice website, and even if I only see a few clients here and there for a while, till I establish a decent reputation, that's probably best.

I'm also in good shape, but I feel to get the higher end clients I would want, I need to be in even better shape. Maybe I need to save for a month or two, and figure out how to put together a decent site in the meantime. So complicated!

BlkSharpie
03-19-2012, 05:05 PM
I think that you are making it more complicated than it is! Heehee! Truly, if I really gave myself time to think about it, I would have rationalized and thought myself out of it. Its true, you dont become high end overnight, but with everything in life, we all have to start somewhere. And just like everything else, you gather your experience, and the things you need along the way. I had about $500 to my name with no prospects for making any more money when I started escorting...and I spent about $300 of it towards getting started. As I made money, I put it back into my business.

As for being in good shape...I have to tell you, if Id waited til I was in good shape to start, Id NEVER get started! :D Seriously, I look great in clothes, I can get my best angle in pictures like nobodys business...but in person, I am *very* self conscious. I could stand to lose about 30lbs at least...I need to tone up, I have stretch marks and for the first time in my life....cellulite (FML..Fffffffffffff!) But like last week, my date was watching me get dressed and said..I know you must get sick of hearing this but, you look amazing! To which I smiled sweetly and told him...yup, sick to my stomach, every time. :D Im working on it, I want to get myself back into shape where I really do feel good about myself, cause I really dont like how I look at all. But in the meantime...confidence, even when I have to fake it, hides *a lot* of flaws.

Nikki_Fox
03-20-2012, 06:12 AM
Your overthinking some of this. Cream always rises to the top. These are some of the complaints I have heard from customers ( not about me ). Ladies dont answer their phones, not returning calls, show up to meetings slovenly dressed, no make-up , phone ringing during sesion or texting, late , cutting time short, whining about their problems, photos not current , etc... Embrace who you are , be professional , make the customer feel special for an hour, be consistent, these things will keep them calling back.

littlemissbliss
03-20-2012, 08:16 PM
Well, it *is* kind of a lot - I have to get over my fear of how those first dates might be with men who aren't going to be my ideal customers, (and of course, safety concerns - it didn't help when I was posting here yesterday that an episode came on 48 Hours about a "nice girl" who was living a double life as an escort, and she wound up being killed mysteriously, lol), and then I have to get the photo part taken care of, (I wish I could freaking find the cd with the professional pics I had taken a few years ago), and getting some kind of website up. And then of course, getting the VerifyHim membership.

I should have enough money saved to get the above done w/in a couple of months. That still leaves some of my other concerns. I looked at one of the local fairly well known mid range escort agency's website last night. They had links to reviews on a few of the girls - one was clearly new to the business. I cringed as I read the TER review, because the girl was clearly grossed out by the client, based on what he described, (although that's not how *he* put it, of course).

He said she was shy and reserved, (which he attributed to her being new to the business), and wouldn't kiss anything more than just with lips, no open mouth, tongue nada. He tried to ask her if she was into kissing and her response was, "uh, do you want me to be". If that's not a stall tactic to avoid coming right out and saying, "I like kissing hot guys, not your disgusting self", I don't know what was.

Then he told her that because of his ED, it was going to be an all oral session. That threw her for a loop, which is also understandable, for someone new. It made me think twice about whether or not I could handle seeing the kind of clients you have to see at first, to get off the ground, so to speak.

littlemissbliss
03-20-2012, 08:19 PM
But, you know, she made that choice to work for an agency - and although an agency helps you get started in this business, it also puts pressure on you to see people who you may not want to see. (Although they advertise that their girls never have to see someone they don't want, how many times could you decline being with Mr. Average Joe With A Beer Gut before the management got pissed?). Because I would be doing this in addition to my full time job, I wouldn't have to feel the pressure to see everyone who contacts me, which would be good.

I don't need for every guy to be a god - as a matter of fact, I would prefer NOT to see a guy who's a little too into his looks - but in order to convincingly charm him and make him feel special for a couple of hours, or whatever, I would have to at least feel like he's somewhat appealing. (I should add - I danced briefly, many years ago while I was finishing school. It was a small club, but I had no problem charming the customers who were nice - but w/the annoying guys, I didn't have the patience or acting skills to ignore their stupidity in order to get their dollars and I think you do need that skill to some degree in all the sex business).

When I see the high end escorts who work in NYC, I know their jobs can't be that bad - they're seeing captains of industry. These guys aren't all hotties, I'm sure, but to get to that level of success, they have to have smarts, some charisma, etc. It wouldn't be a hard job, entertaining that kind of guy.

I read The Price by Natalie McClellan a while back - when she was NYC's top escort during the New York Confidential agency days, she enjoyed every minute of it because they were guys she'd date normally for the most part anyway. That's got to be a whole different ballpark that seeing Joe Schmoe who's got nothing to do all day but be on TER, checking to make SURE he sees someone who will give him the *absolute* most for the $300 he can barely let himself part with, unless he's sure he's getting the whole world on a platter.

BlkSharpie
03-20-2012, 09:12 PM
I saw that show yesterday too! lol! Actually, of all the forensic/case studies shows Ive seen about escorts, thats my fav...because of how sweetly everyone who knew her talks about what she did and understanding that she did it for her kids. I can recognize that Im being somewhat dark at the moment lol so Ill stop there... But in an overall thing, people of all occupations and lifestyles end up with csi stories on those shows...right before that one was an epi about a housewife that was abducted... so honestly, it does not scare me from what I do.

When I was doing research, I found an article about a famous, but now defunct agency (I forget the name, but someone here might know) where before knocking on the guys door, they were taught to repeat to themselves "This is my boyfriend and I havnt seen him in 6 months, and Im filled with passion for him" or something like that. I started out with doing that, and I can tell you, it works. I dont even have to pep talk myself anymore...when that door opens, I walk in with the attitude of "you are the most amazing guy Ive ever met!" Being indi has its benefit in that, when I have a hard time playing that off, I take heart in knowing Ill never see him again. Cause if I seriously do not enjoy my time with a guy, I will simply let him know Im unavailable if he ever tried to see me again.

But yeah, its actually not that hard...I have a very limited/selective view of what is attractive..most guys look blah to me. Even when its a guy that most girls are tripping all over themselves over and think is so hot their teeth are sweating, Im like, ho hum..hes okay I guess. :D So the odds of me running across a guy I genuinely find attractive is pretty slim to none. As long as he's clean, has a great personality and is a gentleman, then I can treat him like any other civilian date Ive been on where I figured I should give the guy a chance even though hes not really my type *sigh* And for the *really really difficult to get past the looks and body type* guys....I talk a lot. Like...a lot, really stretch out the giggling, teasing, sexual tension part...then I pull out every single trick in the book to get the deed over with. Then I talk him to death some more so that he cant accuse me of shorting him on our date time. So far so good....they all just think I find them so interesting that I cant help talking to them more, and guys like having their ego stroked just as much as they like other stuff stroked. ;D

littlemissbliss
03-22-2012, 05:18 PM
I liked that the family and friends of the murdered girl weren't judgmental towards her working too. I wish more people were like that. We live in a society that is not very understanding. Most people have their reasons, (usually good, non-frivolous ones) for making a choice that carries this much risk.

I heard from an agency today that was one of the more higher range ones I had contacted. The owner left me a voicemail and emailed that she was very interested in speaking to me. I think I will call her back. Even though I'm still unsure about everything, I thought this agency may be more of a match for what I am looking for. It can't hurt to at least speak with her.

OJenni!
03-22-2012, 05:47 PM
Are you an escort?

If you were, you would not give out such bad information.

CL's adult services section has been shutdown for a long time.
CL is NOT the place to advertise on a low budget. She will get better results on backpage.
BTW what does she need a business card for? If she's not going to vegas, she does not need
those ridiculous things. All that is IS more paper trail. What is she going to do, go to home depot and pass them out? C'mon bad advice.

Minnie, camming for escort start up money is brill.

Depends on where you are and where you put the business cards. But then again, you don't really need business cards for what I am going to suggest. All you need is a pen and paper.

This is only good if you already have some form of advertising out there and are seeing clients at hotels.

1. take a sheet of paper and write down names and numbers. Include your name and number as one of them. Include websites if you want.
2. When you get called to a hotel slip the sheet of paper in a phone book under the escorts or adult entertainment section OR if you have business cards slip those in.
3. If you have business cards make sure they don't contain too much information if you live in a place where this business is illegal. Name and number should be fine.

I have made good money this way so don't knock it until you try it. I got the idea from another escort (I don't know who), I got a call from a client who was in a hotel room and saw my name, site and number written on a sheet of paper in the escorts section in the phone book. The sheet of paper had about a 1/2 dozen names, numbers and sites on it. After that I started doing this myself and it was a great way of free advertising. I scored a few good clients this way.

BlkSharpie
03-22-2012, 07:14 PM
That is very interesting... Though I have to admit, of all the hotels Ive stayed at in the past year, nair a one had a phone book in it...and Ive been all over the place in hotels ranging from 3-5 star. Actually, I cant remember the last time I saw a phone book period!

They all have bibles though...good ol Gideon... I wonder if it would work if I slip my number right next to Ezekiel 23:19-20
"Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses."

I shall do it. Yes I shall.

And if you are a Domme, may I suggest Deuteronomy 23:1
"No one whose testicles are crushed or whose male organ is cut off shall enter the assembly of the Lord."

All ye, who read and heed these teachings...go forth and prosper!!! :D

littlemissbliss
03-22-2012, 08:25 PM
I was thinking the same thing - I don't remember the last time I saw a phonebook in a hotel. Or much of anywhere, period! Now, slipping it in a copy of a magazine that caters to high end dining and nightlife might work too....

Sharpie, the mantra about telling yourself clients are a boyfriend you haven't seen in a while - that's from the article about New York Confidential agency - if you liked the article, Natalie McLennan wrote a book about working for the agency and Jason Itzler - the owner and her boyfriend (for a time - they broke up before the agency was busted, due to his big mouth):

http://www.amazon.com/Price-Rise-Natalia-Yorks-Escort/dp/1597775940

BlkSharpie
03-22-2012, 08:34 PM
I was thinking the same thing - I don't remember the last time I saw a phonebook in a hotel. Or much of anywhere, period! Now, slipping it in a copy of a magazine that caters to high end dining and nightlife might work too....

Sharpie, the mantra about telling yourself clients are a boyfriend you haven't seen in a while - that's from the article about New York Confidential agency - if you liked the article, Natalie McLennan wrote a book about working for the agency and Jason Itzler - the owner and her boyfriend (for a time - they broke up before the agency was busted, due to his big mouth):

http://www.amazon.com/Price-Rise-Natalia-Yorks-Escort/dp/1597775940

Yesss!! I knew someone would know what I was talking about!!! Thanks for the book suggestion, I def will check it out. I foudn that article *verrry* interesting, and yeah, picked up great tips from it, even though thats not what the article was for :D But the way I look at if, fake it til you achieve it, and some of the stuff in there was too good not to use.

Honestly though, about slipping my number into anything...I honestly really just wouldnt. All sorts of people check into hotels, and I really would hate for a family to find it, or sweet ol grandma. Plus Id venture to guess, the busy exec who is in town for a night or two, isnt casually hanging about his room flipping through the phone book or magazines...

Now, Im not cutting it down and saying no one should do it or that it wouldnt work, I can see how it can if it reaches the right person... Besides, when Im staying in a hotel, it means Im traveling...when I check out Im already gone, so anyone who finds my number isnt going to be able to book me anyway.

Exxotica
03-10-2013, 10:16 PM
Hello everybody. I've been looking to get into the escorting business, but Im having trouble.
No one will hire me. I've contacted quite a few agencies in my area, I give them a description about myself. They say okay, then ask for a picture.
I send them one, and I never hear from them again. I know that looks play a part, but am I really that hideous?

I don't like throwing the race card around but is race a factor too? (im black)

Race is Definitely a factor. Its a known fact-- Asian women will get picked up the most, followed by white women and then us. But keep trying.. depending on your location.. they will want at least a couple black girls but you usually have to be real pretty and slim.

Nerd
03-11-2013, 10:13 AM
Legit gentlemen hobbyists (as a lot of us tricks think of ourselves) avoid backpage like the plague it is. We consider it dangerous and basically for suckers.

Local escort review boards are where we look. We want to see reviews and some posting history. Likewise the ladies can check us out by the reviews we have posted. Safer all the way around. It takes a little extra effort to get those first clients/reviews, but once you are established it gets easier.

Looks are subjective. There are all kinds of ladies who make money escorting because there are men who like all different kinds of ladies. I don't have a type as far as race, but I do lean towards tall thin dark haired women... piercings/tats do not bother me and can even be a turn on. But I've also seen larger girls and had a great time with them.

Beyond looks the services offered or menu is at least as important, maybe even more important than looks. Most guys are looking for that horny girlfriend experience and hope not to run into any rules along the way. I see less attractive ladies who consistently get great reviews because of the quality of service they offer.

*graphic sentence warning*
I have one I see regularly just for her unique oral technique. It's like she's making love to me with her mouth and she won't quit until she is entirely certain the tanks are empty. That is what I call talent. :)

Themwhitefolks
03-11-2013, 12:07 PM
There's no such thing as too ugly to be an escort. Definitely being attractive is a plus but I know some ugly chicks that out hustle women much more attractive than themselves. It's all in your personality and conversation....

yellowrose25
03-12-2013, 08:16 AM
He said she was shy and reserved, (which he attributed to her being new to the business), and wouldn't kiss anything more than just with lips, no open mouth, tongue nada. He tried to ask her if she was into kissing and her response was, "uh, do you want me to be". If that's not a stall tactic to avoid coming right out and saying, "I like kissing hot guys, not your disgusting self", I don't know what was.


Uggh, I can't stand this. I mean how can we not be slightly nauseous or grossed out when we have to make out with a guy who is older than our father?? It's like they think we're friggin' robots or something. Sorry, just venting lol.