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Fridays
03-10-2012, 08:09 AM
Then I guess I don't understand. You first said 50% would fail, and I assumed that was the % that didn't pick the highest price option. Now you are talking about the 25% that won't pay anything.

I don't know if the cheap comment was directed at me, but I live on student loans and cam money... I don't have stacks of cash to drop on one show from a camgirl that isn't my niche when I can spent the same amount on new toys, DVDs, or whatever else last longer then 10mins. I also don't see how being cheap or frugal has anything to do with Karma. Anyone who has ever lurked in a free show on MFC and not contributed would be cheap in my book, ya know?

the question was not if you WILL pay for a girl like you , who does what you do, or if you did... but if you WOULD, if you were a guy with money.
Its a scenario... an imagination exercise..
this thing with " its not my nyche.. its not the type of porn I like, so I would not pay for it" is the problem. :))
so what do you mean... if lets say you like to watch gang bangs with red heads and black guys... since you;re not selling this exact thing, you;d not pay for a model like you?who does what you do?.. well, lets say on the sites you work with, no one offers gang bangs ...so you would lose a customer (you, the customer) because he(you) cant find a specific porn fantasy. Since you, the customer cant find what you like and do not care for other types of porn , since its not your niche, u;d leave right. Yet thousands of customers who might enjoy watching crazy stuff get bamboozled every day watching other things..other girls..out of curiosity at least. Im pretty sure most man like big boobs, small ass. if I was a customers I;d like that too and I;d pay for it but.. I have small boobs, big ass. I;d pay to watch that too!..
oh and MFC... yes,, plenty of times when I wish I could have contributed if I got the money.
In the end it is not the type of the show that would get me to pay , but really believing that what they do, whatever that is, its worth it. Its a living breathing human being on the other end of the screen and that alone makes it worth it for me. Making them happy, even if I ;d not necessarily get off over what they do, would make me happy.
ok ill stop here.
sometimes on this forum, we dont see eye to eye and that is fine...

Fridays
03-10-2012, 08:12 AM
I believe that my show is easily worth 50 bucks for ten minutes. That doesn't mean I'd personally pay for it. That's because I'm not in my target market. I used to sell teddy bears for a living, I wouldn't have bought most of them either. It wasn't worth it to me, but to all the kids that came into the shop it was. It's not about whether you would buy your show or not, it's about recognising how much your target market values it.

so you;re the spokes person for L'oreal, yet you wear Neutrogena?
you;r the spokes person for Coca-Cola, yet you drink Pepsi?
and so on.. you get the ideea..
this is wrong.. lol

the problem here is that you do not sell something that is tangible.. you are selling yourself.
big difference if you ask me.
Rest assure if you would have been the General Manager of that teddy bear company ( not just an employee). and u;d not buy your kids at least 1 of those teddy bears, something would look and feel fishy. when asked.." do your kids own any teddy bears from our company" and u;d say" no"... u;d be fired . LOL

Fridays
03-10-2012, 08:20 AM
Edit.
Im really passionate about this subject, Im not attacking anyone. ok...
just discussing the subject from my own perspective.

Cammi
03-10-2012, 08:29 AM
so you;re the spokes person for L'oreal, yet you wear Neutrogena?
you;r the spokes person for Coca-Cola, yet you drink Pepsi?
and so on.. you get the ideea..
this is wrong.. lol

the problem here is that you do not sell something that is tangible.. you are selling yourself.
big difference if you ask me.
Rest assure if you would have been the General Manager of that teddy bear company ( not just an employee). and u;d not buy your kids at least 1 of those teddy bears, something would look and feel fishy. when asked.." do your kids own any teddy bears from our company" and u;d say" no"... u;d be fired . LOL

Did I say I'd spend the money on another camgirl instead? No, I didn't. I wouldn't spend money on camgirls, period. If I was forced at gunpoint to buy a camgirl show, of course I'd choose mine, cause I know it's the best around*

*Not trying to insult anyone else, I think that's how everyone should feel about their own show

Fridays
03-10-2012, 08:43 AM
Did I say I'd spend the money on another camgirl instead? No, I didn't. I wouldn't spend money on camgirls, period.
Ok.. spending on other cam girls, if you were a man.. thats besides the point... the point is if you;d spend on YOU and you made it Very clear that you would not... ok......
the gun to head thing, thats extreme, does not apply. we;re not talking life and death situations lol

I have to say this is an eye opener to me.
I have never thought the reason why some dont bank ( besides the fact that they might not have enough time to cam- which is totally reasonable) is because they;d not pay for their own shows themselves.. I thought there were other reasons like... not using HD.. not using sound... not having good lighting.. and a good webcam.. not being on the " right" site.. lol

I think I got to the bottom of this......finally...
Thanks for voting, now I know ......

again, personal opinion people... just personal opinion........

Cammi
03-10-2012, 08:48 AM
I have never thought the reason why some dont bank ( besides the fact that they might not have enough time to cam- which is totally reasonable) is because they;d not pay for their own shows themselves.. I thought there were other reasons like... not using HD.. not using sound... not having good lighting.. and a good webcam.. not being on the " right" site.. lol


Sorry, I don't have a problem making money. You're gonna need a new theory :)

Fridays
03-10-2012, 08:51 AM
Sorry, I don't have a problem making money. You're gonna need a new theory :)
lol :)
You;re funny:)

loveshooks
03-10-2012, 08:57 AM
Does clips4sale have a section for peeps who fetishize the earnings of other cam-chicas?
Fridays, you'd seriously sweep that category

Fridays
03-10-2012, 09:00 AM
Does clips4sale have a section for peeps who fetishize the earnings of other cam-chicas?
Fridays, you'd seriously sweep that category
lol loveshocks... whatever :).. its not like that.
I dont see other people posting more interesting polls...
Im up for a mental challenge, give it to me lol

tinydancer23
03-10-2012, 03:31 PM
I did not qoute the whole thing, but still..
If you dont TRULY believe your product/service worths whatever you;re charging, if you dont think this statement is true 100%, then why expect others to pay it?
so would you pay for what you sell? if the answer is NO or.. ya , a little.. then dont be surprises if others wont pay either..
and this is why I think its related to the success rate.
I would pay for myself in a heart beat and I expect others to pay too.
How much? as much as they can. I expect them to tip when I ask them to, I expect them to go private when I ask them to.
....
and How can you ask them to pay ""based on the value that you think you add to their life"", if you THINK the value you add to their life is 0 ? ( since you would not pay for it yourself..)
The best sales people believe.. really believe.. what they sell is worths the price and more. and most of them probably own the product/bought the service they sell.

I could add more, but Ill stop here

you should try this book " getting past no"

http://www.amazon.com/Getting-Past-No-William-Ury/dp/0553371312

thanks for the book recommendation, i'll check it out :)

most service providers DON'T actually buy the service they sell because they do it themselves. i do a variety of non-adult work when i'm not camming, for example i work as a web designer and social media coordinator. i wouldn't buy web design and social media coordination services because i can do those things myself. that doesn't mean i don't think i'm worth the $16-$50/hr i charge for the various services i provide, or that my services don't have immense value to my clients (which is a separate issue from the value those services have to me). if i actually enjoyed cam shows sexually and i was not a sex worker, i would pay well above the rates i charge and tip me extra. but i don't enjoy cam shows. i'm not my intended clientele, and i wouldn't be even if i had a dick.

maybe this has something to do with the fact that i view camming as selling a service rather than a product? i'm selling sexual intimacy, attraction, orgasms, etc. but sometimes also companionship, friendship, fantasy. i'm not selling a product (although sex workers are often talked about as though we "sell our bodies" or "sell ourselves," i don't think that's true - i sell a service and i sell my time and energy).

the art of earning (http://www.taragentile.com/art-of-earning-guide/)
the right brain business plan (http://www.rightbrainbusinessplan.com/)

(and while i disagree with you i'm really grateful you started this thread because i think it's a pertinent and interesting question to ask, and to figure out for ourselves - how we value our services, how our customers value our services, how we define our services, etc. every person who owns their own business needs to do that internal work.)

Fridays
03-10-2012, 06:38 PM
Does clips4sale have a section for peeps who fetishize the earnings of other cam-chicas?
Fridays, you'd seriously sweep that category
ya I actually get off on knowing other cam girls are doing fabulous...
u know, if i did not know you ( aka we spoke in the past in diff threads), i;d call you out for being rude......

neliana
03-10-2012, 06:41 PM
If I was a guy I'd be the biggest trick ever lol. I'd hire hookers (mid range to expensive porn star ones, depending on how much I made) go to strip clubs occasionally and as for cam girls I'd tip the ones I like in public chat (not for flashing or anything, just because I like their look/style/attitude). And I would def tip myself :)

AF camgirl
03-11-2012, 05:07 AM
I think the issue is that the poll question can easily be misinterrupted. I think the question Friday is really trying to ask is "What would you pay to watch your own show?"-meaning would you pay to watch a camgirl perform in the same manners you do while on cam (almost to say how hard are you working for your money). Where we are reading it as "What would you spend to watch yourself on cam?".

Maybe? Friday, chime in if this is along the right lines.

Fridays
03-11-2012, 08:12 AM
I think the issue is that the poll question can easily be misinterrupted. I think the question Friday is really trying to ask is "What would you pay to watch your own show?"-meaning would you pay to watch a camgirl perform in the same manners you do while on cam (almost to say how hard are you working for your money). Where we are reading it as "What would you spend to watch yourself on cam?".

Maybe? Friday, chime in if this is along the right lines.
You are 100 % right, AF.