View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
Marina Starr
05-10-2014, 03:38 PM
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I learnt that early on in the Streamate thread (a couple of months ago). I was just being honest about stuff and straight away had girls jumping down my throat, and of course, as I tend to do, I responded in kind. I work on SM, so I always read that thread and learnt quite a bit, but I don't like it much - so it's now more of a read-only thread for me. It's like the SM fraternity of girls thanking each other all day long... and you need an invitation to join the inner circle.
tropo
05-10-2014, 03:55 PM
^^ LOL... and right on cue the queen of GIF's arrives, soon to be thanked by 5000 SM fraternity members.
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Marina Starr
05-10-2014, 04:00 PM
I see you finally got something right! It will soon be thanked by 10,000 SM Fraternity members!
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^^ LOL... and right on cue the queen of GIF's arrives soon to be thanked by 5000 SM fraternity members.
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tropo
05-10-2014, 04:27 PM
^^Look, I get it, you need somewhere to show off your GIFs.
You have some really interesting ones, but here's my favorite:
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TransdimensionalPrincess
05-10-2014, 04:32 PM
Ladies, Ladies, Ladies. This is JUST an internet forum, nothing here should be a BIG deal. Now do I need to pass a peace joint around?
tropo
05-10-2014, 04:38 PM
^^ Well, let's see what the queen of s̶a̶r̶c̶a̶s̶m̶ GIF's comes up with next. I'm still having fun. No doubt she's perusing her massive library of GIF's as we speak.
Marina Starr
05-10-2014, 04:45 PM
Wow, if you're going to insult someone, at least use a GIF that's original, something of your own. You sound mad, why are you mad though?
^^Look, I get it, you need somewhere to show off your GIFs.
You have some really interesting ones, but here's my favorite:
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tropo
05-10-2014, 04:53 PM
^^ Go back and read my post. I didn't say it was mine. I said it's my favorite. If you had a better one I would have used that.
Marina Starr
05-10-2014, 04:57 PM
I could see why it would be your favorite. Thank you for sharing!
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^^ Go back and read my post. I didn't say it was mine. I said it's my favorite. If you had a better one I would have used that.
loveshooks
05-10-2014, 05:07 PM
k, enough of this.
I find it really sad that the same peeps seem to jump into every snark-fest the moment one emerges. it's a beautiful day and some of y'all are choosing to spend it exchanging pleasantries on the internet and having a pissing contest over 'thanks received' count? sounds like a really great use of your time
Alice and anonymous are right, everyone brings their own triggers, experiences and histories to this place and behind every avatar and handle here there's a real human being. let's try to have some compassion for each other, and move this thread back to the annoying ish the guys do. so yeah, enough.
anoncamgirl
05-10-2014, 05:25 PM
^ I'm 26 but hell, on Streamate alone, so many of the really successful ladies are 30+! I've seen a 59 year old rocking it on the first page! Persoanally, I'll keep going as long as they'll have me, provided I'm not bored of it! xxxx
Thanks Scottie! I'm only 21 myself, but I've always looked up to you and the way you run your room. (: I get into a funk about aging sometimes, and it helps to know there's a lot of MILFs and GILFs that still do well! That's really encouraging, and something I need to remember.
SophiaSylvan
05-10-2014, 08:17 PM
Thanks Scottie! I'm only 21 myself, but I've always looked up to you and the way you run your room. (: I get into a funk about aging sometimes, and it helps to know there's a lot of MILFs and GILFs that still do well! That's really encouraging, and something I need to remember.
I do worry about this, anoncamgirl. I have been camming for 11 years though, I'm now 35, though everyone tells me I look younger so I only age 1 year every 3 years in camgirl time, lol. I've toyed with the idea of revealing my true age (in profiles, and when guy's ask, a few of my men know) but I'm not ready yet.
I just want to assure you that I'm making more now in less time than I ever did in my early 20's. I plan to cam for another 10 years until I retire, longer if I keep looking good enough and things are still busy. It does worry me sometimes, wondering about everything that can change, etc. but it is like that with any ordinary job, you can get laid off any time, the market can be over saturated with people in your field and so on.
JaneBurgess
05-10-2014, 08:56 PM
You said before you charge lower rates, I can see you not experiencing a dip. However I personally would never charge less than $3 a minute to fuck myself online. I think it's the opposite, some performers charge rates so low that it attracts cheap customers to the site. Plus all the free nudity doesn't help any of us. Thankfully I have had a good week this week and I am thankful for that.
It leads to a fight on there because you have a strong personality like most of us on here. It can get a bit heated but in the end we all respect each others opinion.
^^ the point I was making was that I haven't noticed any change since the site change nearly 2 weeks ago. I never look at the site, so if I hadn't have heard about it here I wouldn't have known. I'm not making mega bucks, but it is steady income.
IMO, the girls who are struggling are the ones charging high rates (too much), but this type of talk usually ends up with an argument on the Streamate thread, suggesting that I'm downgrading myself with my rates. There's lots of cheapskate customers on SM, but they add up with a few minutes here and few minutes there.
JaneBurgess
05-10-2014, 09:03 PM
Thank you for sharing your story, Im sure that wasn't easy to do. I also respect that you are taking care of your family. You have friends on here, a lot of us understand the working a lot and not having a personal life. It's ok to vent and you shouldn't apologize for speaking your mind on here. There is nothing wrong with having a strong personality and sometimes they clash on here but that's life.
We're not that much different. I support my whole family of 6 brothers and sisters, nephews and nieces, mother and father with my camming income. It's a very lonely life as no one in my family has a clue what I do so I can't talk to anyone about it. I can't have friends either. I can't have my own children because I can't take time off, and can't afford damage to my body... and couldn't look after them anyway. I'm 26 now and started camming when I turned 18.... perhaps I shouldn't write this...wtf, it'a venting thread, right?... Before that I worked as a bargirl and sold my virginity at a very young age (can't say), the proceeds of which built a little house for my family (before anyone starts grilling my family for being traffickers - they didn't know - I was living with an aunt at the time who also didn't know), who at that time lived in a bamboo hut. My father was sick with TB and worked all day in the hot sun on rice fields for about $2 a day. My aunt was an abusive bitch who kicked me out of the house when I was 14 and I found a job working in a bar, dancing in a bikini for sex tourists. My aunt wanted to set me up with this horrible guy for so much per month, which I refused.
To be honest, you people on here are the only ones who know this story as I've never told it to anyone before. I suppose I also wanted to vent. Maybe they will ban me for telling this story??
And just to continue venting, the world's strongest typhoon ever hit my family home directly on November 8 last year and I've spent all year trying to pay for the repairs. It took the roof completely off.
anoncamgirl
05-10-2014, 10:35 PM
I do worry about this, anoncamgirl. I have been camming for 11 years though, I'm now 35, though everyone tells me I look younger so I only age 1 year every 3 years in camgirl time, lol. I've toyed with the idea of revealing my true age (in profiles, and when guy's ask, a few of my men know) but I'm not ready yet.
I just want to assure you that I'm making more now in less time than I ever did in my early 20's. I plan to cam for another 10 years until I retire, longer if I keep looking good enough and things are still busy. It does worry me sometimes, wondering about everything that can change, etc. but it is like that with any ordinary job, you can get laid off any time, the market can be over saturated with people in your field and so on.
Girl, you look great! You could pass for 25 or younger! I would have guessed you were in your 20's by your avatar picture. Do you have a special skincare regime? Do you have collagen injections? Collagen is my backup plan, but I don't know how far it will go.
But that's great news that you make more now! I'm hoping my story will be the same. (: I imagine that having a following over the years really helps. If you are in your 20's it's a lot harder to compete with someone who has a large fan base.
TransdimensionalPrincess
05-10-2014, 10:41 PM
Everyone is always worried that the industry will fail, and that camgirls will become over saturated even more and not worth it in the upcoming years. But do realize that something else could happen, the american market might actually recover one day, and BOOM again. The government might actually crack down on free internet porn, and make more men spenders again - a lot of freeloaders used to pay and would pay again for their habits if they have to. And remember, this industry is always slower with a democrat president, and we've had one for a while. Republican white males are our biggest spender in porn, and they always feel safe to spend money when we have a republican president.
This is my vent, everyone is always worried for the worse, and i'm just sitting here thinking: well damn, you know, the economy is a yo-yo and for all we know in ten years we could be making twice as much a day as camgirls were making in the 90s - unlikely but you never really know. If the economy ever recovers do you realize how many camgirls would quit and get normal jobs? a shit ton.
tropo
05-10-2014, 11:53 PM
However I personally would never charge less than $3 a minute to fuck myself online.
I don't charge less than $3 a minute - I charge 2.99/3.99.... but really it's the take home pay which I'm concerned with, which unfortunately is low on SM. The redeemer is that the traffic is the highest out of the sites I work on.
Vlodina
05-11-2014, 02:14 AM
Thanks Scottie! I'm only 21 myself, but I've always looked up to you and the way you run your room. (:
I won't lie, this made me feel warm and fuzzy inside!;D Thank you! Xx
Lola12
05-11-2014, 04:40 PM
It isn't just you hun myself and im on here and ACF and I would say roughly 80% of girls seem to be suffering financially this last week (even the top 20 girls).
I always stand by the fact that it's best to plan for weeks like this and cash in as much as possible and save.
The best you can do is carry on everyday because it takes one good day to change it all around.
Makes me feel a bit better! It's just that the deadness really caught me by surprise since it's been going on for over a week now.
But I'm actually proud of myself for not giving up! I actually wake up everyday feeling positive and full with hope that this day will be better.
As you know, it hasn't been, but I'm gonna keep trying, if I stop camming there is no change of making it good either.
Every tiny moment I get the chance to go online, I do it. My boyfriend was away for only an hour this saturday so I went online anyway, even just for that hour.
Made 275 tokens, but hey, it was 0 on both thursday and friday ;)
Smurfette
05-11-2014, 05:01 PM
You're fine :) I'm 12 weeks and have a little bump showing now... I get lots of guys interested in my belly but none willing to tip or go private... I think I'm not yet showing "enough" for the preggo lovers. I was starting to wonder if maybe they don't like that I'm pregnant but it was this way before I was showing too.
I just can't figure it out. I know a lot of other models I talk to are complaining too. Still can't help but wonder if it's just me. I can't think of anything I'm doing different than being pregnant! lol
I experienced the same thing. When you're pregnant but not pregnant "enough" to really attract the fetish guys, it's like you're in limbo. A lot of the guys who seem interested won't buy any shows until your stomach is really big. So the good $$$ comes at around 5-6 months and on.
Please don't neglect Clips4Sale. It's probably the single biggest regret of my entire cam career that I didn't have a store open during my pregnancy. Film dozens and dozens of clips. Anything you can possibly think of, from vanilla sex to feet to picking your nose, lol. You will make BANK!! and then you won't have to worry so much about camming being slow.
smaddy
05-11-2014, 09:39 PM
A customer on SM took me exclusive for anal. I usually only do it in block sessions so I threatened him and told him that if he leaves right away I will block him lol. He stayed for about 45 minutes :)
But it was so obnoxious because I'm pretty sure he was just trying to get me to take a crap the whole time. He would say "now pull it out and gape for me BB" "Just push really hard... its okay if it gets messy... put a towel town" "spread your ass and push"
I've gotten a few guys who are really into anal who I definitely think have a pooping fetish. I think they know well enough by now that they can't just come right out and ask for it lol... they have to be sneaky and hope the cam girl doesn't catch on and it happens by accident. I just play into it like "I'm pushing really hard for you!" but I have a very strong anal floor... its never going to happen lol.
BeccaB
05-11-2014, 11:24 PM
I made a new account just so i can come on here to vent. I've been camming for a year now and my all time highest tipper ever, out of any site was on tonight. I didn't see his reply to my PM in time and he went to another girl. .That was a guaranteed 400+, which i needed so badly right now. i've never broken down like this before, and now i cant even get back on cam bc i'm crying. Camming can be so frustrating sometimes. I want to drink right now, but i'm going to go to the gym instead. Hope everyone else is having a kick ass night and makes their goals.
Lola12
05-12-2014, 02:16 AM
Bleeh so quiet today too even though my room mostly have premiums. No one was talking.. But I did get a tip to go topless. Always something I guess.
But now I'm so desperate that i'm acutally lying here naked! :(
SimoneGray
05-12-2014, 02:29 AM
As a camgirl that has been online for about five months now, I can fully understand this. This thread makes me feel not alone anymore. I often feel like all you hear is from the girls that do well always, making you question if you are pretty enough, original enough etc. Its affirming to hear that I am not the only one who experiences slumps etc.
Lola12
05-12-2014, 03:43 AM
Signed up on Chaturbate today! So I'm gonna try something different now. Starting tomorrow!
Rhiiannon
05-12-2014, 06:15 AM
I haven't been making anything lately. I think my camscore just can't be saved at this point.
But some guy before was like "View my cam?" and I said "Sure, 20tks to view cams;)" and he was like "how about a rate and admire?" and I was like... no :)
SimoneGray
05-12-2014, 02:07 PM
I haven't been making anything lately. I think my camscore just can't be saved at this point.
But some guy before was like "View my cam?" and I said "Sure, 20tks to view cams;)" and he was like "how about a rate and admire?" and I was like... no :)
So camscore is really a factor then? Always get told to ignore it...should one just deactivate the account and start over?
SimoneGray
05-12-2014, 02:08 PM
I haven't been making anything lately. I think my camscore just can't be saved at this point.
But some guy before was like "View my cam?" and I said "Sure, 20tks to view cams;)" and he was like "how about a rate and admire?" and I was like... no :)
So camscore is really a factor then? Always get told to ignore it...should one just deactivate the account and start over?
SadieTaylor
05-12-2014, 04:04 PM
SM is still ridiculous for me this week. Tried for an hour last night- no shows, tried again today for 2 1/2 hours, got 1 prvt, not a super long one either. Can't wait for my MFC approval, going ot tell these nerves to shove it and just try it out. I don't think I can do any worse for the time being.
Bubblegum1235
05-12-2014, 04:15 PM
I just made half of a gold show for nothing. Thank you very much Encoder!
JaneBurgess
05-12-2014, 05:38 PM
That's the issue with that site. Great traffic usually but the 35 percent blows.
I don't charge less than $3 a minute - I charge 2.99/3.99.... but really it's the take home pay which I'm concerned with, which unfortunately is low on SM. The redeemer is that the traffic is the highest out of the sites I work on.
justanothercamgirl
05-12-2014, 06:57 PM
SM is still ridiculous for me this week. Tried for an hour last night- no shows, tried again today for 2 1/2 hours, got 1 prvt, not a super long one either. Can't wait for my MFC approval, going ot tell these nerves to shove it and just try it out. I don't think I can do any worse for the time being.
You'll do great, bb!
Remember, anything is better than zero.
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Dulce
05-12-2014, 07:00 PM
SM has been so slow for me the past 24 hours. I cammed last night for about 30 mins, a few hours during the day, and a little while ago for 2 hours, and I made a whopping $40. I've never done this bad. I want to cry :(
What makes it worse is I turned down a former escorting client too. He's been the only client I was seeing since I left that industry, but I wanted to finally be done with that for good, so I made up an excuse for not being able to meet up. I told myself that I would just work hard and make the money on cam instead :(
JaneBurgess
05-12-2014, 07:06 PM
I've been online for an hour and its all freeloaders. Here's to hoping it gets better for us all.
SophiaSylvan
05-12-2014, 08:09 PM
Girl, you look great! You could pass for 25 or younger! I would have guessed you were in your 20's by your avatar picture. Do you have a special skincare regime? Do you have collagen injections? Collagen is my backup plan, but I don't know how far it will go.
But that's great news that you make more now! I'm hoping my story will be the same. (: I imagine that having a following over the years really helps. If you are in your 20's it's a lot harder to compete with someone who has a large fan base.
Aw, thank you Anon! That's really sweet. I guess with skin I'm mostly lucky because I have a sort of tough olive-complexion from my Dad. I drink and smoke and stay up to late and don't drink enough water. I do exfoliate and use expensive moisurizers when I can find my faves. I remove makeup with almond oil, it's great! But I think it really depends on your skin type. I do think it takes a while to build up a fan base, but regulars come and go, so any new guy is potentially your new regular, right? My trouble ever since my 20's was keeping my body in good shape, trying to get there again! I have issues with it. I wish I was as concerned about my future when I was your age, Anon. I only started really worrying when my husband went blind and could no longer contribute financially. I had to really think about my future and I decided not to go for my Masters for teaching. I decided to put everything I've got into my work and it's paid off. Just give it your all, babe and I'm sure you'll be wooing guys way past middle age, if that's what you want. <3
I forgot to add no, I've never had any plastic surgery, but thanks for the compliment! I was feeling shitty today and you helped make me feel good.
tropo
05-12-2014, 09:50 PM
That's the issue with that site. Great traffic usually but the 35 percent blows.
I wish. I'm only getting 30%.:'(
Lola12
05-12-2014, 10:06 PM
So camscore is really a factor then? Always get told to ignore it...should one just deactivate the account and start over?
Many say we should just ignore it, but I can't agree with that :( Many guys clearly stays away from models with low camscore.
Even guys have said "why your camscore so low? That's not good!" That was on my first account so I made a new one. Everything has been fine,
but now everything is going downhill again.
JaneBurgess
05-12-2014, 10:49 PM
Really? I never understood how they give the percentages. Everyone should be at the same rate.
I wish. I'm only getting 30%.:'(
RaeRae
05-12-2014, 11:39 PM
I'm absolutely fucking losing it right now. I have made fucking diddley in the past 4 days at all despite doing 3-4 sites at once. I have no regs or anything on two of them, so I expect it there, but when I'm making less than 25 dollars per day on SM and IML together it makes me feel so fucking pathetic and worthless. Each fucking day as been a waste of makeup aside from getting my first feedback on AW from a sweet guy. I'm going to try switching from late nights back to days and hope it helps some in conjunction with more marketing, otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do.
MissQuirk
05-12-2014, 11:48 PM
it makes me feel so fucking pathetic and worthless.
I feel like that a lot. It's awful :S
But it's nothing to do with us. Lots of girls are struggling right now *hugs*
Be nice to yourself <3 You're not worthless at all.
JaneBurgess
05-12-2014, 11:58 PM
Hang in there, it will get better. My night sucked tonight but there's always tomorrow to have a killer day.
I'm absolutely fucking losing it right now. I have made fucking diddley in the past 4 days at all despite doing 3-4 sites at once. I have no regs or anything on two of them, so I expect it there, but when I'm making less than 25 dollars per day on SM and IML together it makes me feel so fucking pathetic and worthless. Each fucking day as been a waste of makeup aside from getting my first feedback on AW from a sweet guy. I'm going to try switching from late nights back to days and hope it helps some in conjunction with more marketing, otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do.
RaeRae
05-13-2014, 12:16 AM
Thank you MissQuirk and Jane. I really needed to hear that. I decided to take a half hour break to refresh myself mentally and take some new pics for profiles and marketing. It will get better. How can it not when you are at the bottom? Only place left to go is up
Lola12
05-13-2014, 12:45 AM
I'm absolutely fucking losing it right now. I have made fucking diddley in the past 4 days at all despite doing 3-4 sites at once. I have no regs or anything on two of them, so I expect it there, but when I'm making less than 25 dollars per day on SM and IML together it makes me feel so fucking pathetic and worthless. Each fucking day as been a waste of makeup aside from getting my first feedback on AW from a sweet guy. I'm going to try switching from late nights back to days and hope it helps some in conjunction with more marketing, otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do.
Gawd, tell me about it! I've been doing 3 sites, and NOTHING :( I also hate that I'm putting a lot of time on my make up and hair and trying to look my best.
What the hell has happend? :(
tropo
05-13-2014, 01:30 AM
^^ I knew when I signed up my rate would only be 30%. I did sign up directly with SM on their main site. I also knew that many models are getting 35%. When I signed up I had no idea if I could make any money. I was not really excited about the prospect of working for a lousy 30%, but after working there for 3 months it's proving to be a reasonable earn for me even at 30%... which got me to thinking, at my current earn the 5% would be an extra $100 - $125 per month, which is nothing to sneeze at. That would pay my internet bill with change.
I've emailed customer support. Maybe they'll revise my rate after seeing that I'm a serious model. You never know unless you ask. They seem to do everything in a discriminatory fashion, so it's worth a try.
Lola12
05-13-2014, 01:45 AM
Got 65 viewers oin my room, 30 premiums. ONE is talking. I've said hello, what's up, and how are you today like 6 times now.
What the hell is wrong with people?!
justanothercamgirl
05-13-2014, 02:25 AM
I'm absolutely fucking losing it right now. I have made fucking diddley in the past 4 days at all despite doing 3-4 sites at once. I have no regs or anything on two of them, so I expect it there, but when I'm making less than 25 dollars per day on SM and IML together it makes me feel so fucking pathetic and worthless. Each fucking day as been a waste of makeup aside from getting my first feedback on AW from a sweet guy. I'm going to try switching from late nights back to days and hope it helps some in conjunction with more marketing, otherwise I don't know what I'm going to do.
Do you have any other eggs in your basket besides camming right now? I find for me when camming is extra frustrating that it helps me mentally to work on my other eggs.
AliceFun
05-13-2014, 03:49 AM
^^^ I cosign with what tropo says, they pay me 30% as well from day one, i signed up directly with them on the main site, the issue is we are out of the 'western zone' but even so what they do is discriminatory, there is no other site paying models percentage according to 'location' but SM. I am for four years on site. It's frustrating.
Edited to add: also for about 2.5 years since my inception with SM site they deducted $5 from each pay check, i dont know why, it simply happened, i was thinking it's normal & it has to do with how site operates but then i found SW & when asked here about it nobody else answered that they had that $5 taken away their pay check.
At a point 1.5 years ago they stopped taking that $5 & i got paid my full earned amount. Cant figure out why they did this, i ask again, is happening to anyone else, especially non-western camgirls? If i calculate $5 multiplied by how many pay checks i got in 2.5 years working constantly and making payout almost every week i'll come to a nice sum. I will calculate just out of curiosity but my question is Why?! Why only 30%, why u SM deducted $5 from every pay check u sent me? Guess i will never know the answer :(
Lola12
05-13-2014, 04:54 AM
Five hours later: 95 tokens. What. a. great. day. :(
Lola12
05-13-2014, 05:25 AM
Total amount earned since may first: 314$ (!) That's an amount I would earn in one or 2 days before! It's devastating :( Ugliest horrorstory in my life I would say.
My plan was to really save some nice money for this summer so I could travel with my boyfriend and just do nice things. I'm so worried now!
TheBrownFox
05-13-2014, 06:13 AM
How insensitive are these fuckers.. I told this guy i cant really type long because I have a torn rotator cuff and the other shoulder isnt much better.. ( weak) cuz it was broken a lil over 2 yrs ago.. he was on a mobile phone so no sound for him.. and he says oh ok bummer.. so where are you from?..WTF!.. just continues on to carry on a conversation in free chat despite my handicap.. this is what pisses me off about them.
A long time ago during a private show I somehow cut my foot on something sharp under my bed, and my foot was bleeding. I blurted out "Shit, my foot's bleeding!," and this dude just continued sitting there jerking his dick on cam. When he was finished, he didn't even ask if I was okay or anything. I guess all that guy cared about was busting a nut...