View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
JaneBurgess
06-04-2014, 08:09 PM
Goodness you weren't kidding, it is kinda dead. I can always work on video clips I guess.
temptingmodel
06-04-2014, 08:32 PM
50 bucks would better than 0 bucks so i am logging on anyway. Yup yup ;)
SadieTaylor
06-04-2014, 08:37 PM
OMG in the past month I must have become the ugliest suckiest camgirl ever. I want to cry, where has all my traffic gone. Camming sucks so much, I started MFC this week and am not having as much luck as I wanted, well I got my first prvt and lo and behold started my period. And it took me a bit to notice it, blood was everywhere and tons of voyeurs were in it. I blew that chance to make money. I guess the positive thing is I'm just bloated, thought I was getting fat.
JaneBurgess
06-04-2014, 09:40 PM
You are not ugly, nor do you suck. MFC is a hard site to do sometimes and it's a different hustle than the pay per minute sites. I do it occasionally and man it can be hard. AS for your period I think most of us have had that happen. It happened to be a couple of weeks ago during a shows. I was playing with a dildo and when I took it out blood was all over it. The custie was way cool about it and we continued the show. Hang in there and remember we all have shitty times.
OMG in the past month I must have become the ugliest suckiest camgirl ever. I want to cry, where has all my traffic gone. Camming sucks so much, I started MFC this week and am not having as much luck as I wanted, well I got my first prvt and lo and behold started my period. And it took me a bit to notice it, blood was everywhere and tons of voyeurs were in it. I blew that chance to make money. I guess the positive thing is I'm just bloated, thought I was getting fat.
SweetJulia
06-04-2014, 11:32 PM
I'm pissed that I'm spending two days in the hospital and can't cam til tomorrow night. On the upside, they fixed what was wrong with me and I don't need surgery.
CandyBubble
06-05-2014, 02:37 AM
ugh. My room is FULL of guys with no tokens today...
SavannahLynnn
06-05-2014, 02:43 AM
So this couldn't have happened at a worst time but I seem to have no paying traffic. It's been so bad every time I get on that I haven't even logged on in a while.
Streamate is my main site. Up until recently I was making around $100-$200 a night no problem. Now I'm not saying there is no traffic. I've been getting plenty of it.. just no one is paying. I've tried EVERYTHING! I've been mean, nice, flirty, topless for free, super cheap gold shows, $1 gold shows, talking my head off, ignoring everyone, playing music, dancing.. They just don't want to spend the money anymore.. they wan't everything free! I won't make more than $10 a shift now.
So my fiance has basically been paying all the rent and bills and he doesn't mind but we're barely scraping by. He had to have his stepdad take out a loan so we could pay the rent we got behind on ($2000) so now we're paying that back ($200 per month). I had to get govt. assistance. I tried to avoid doing it for so long.. I get enough to at least cover my half of rent now. Because of avoiding public assistance I had to take out a payday loan for groceries a few months ago and I knew I might not be able to pay it back but my daughter had to eat, so now my bank account is overdrafted by $318 (they add $5 per day). You could have probably already guessed I have nothing saved towards taxes either.
I really don't know what to do. I need to get a vanilla job, which is going to be very hard in the small town I'm in. On top of that I don't have a car, so whilst I can get assistance with childcare, I need to figure out how I'd get my daughter to daycare and then get myself to work. There is also a chance my fiance's half brother may come to live with us because their real father has stage 4 inoperable lung cancer and having been in foster care myself, we do not want him to become a dependent of the state as he has no other family (his mother is not around). This will give us an even more immediate need to move somewhere with more space. We live in a very bad area and have been trying to find somewhere safe and affordable.
Sorry to get off subject I just realized what an impact this has had. Anyway I have an mfc account but I don't ever make money on there. Guys just want to chat for free. I was also recently approved on mygirlfund and it's only been about a day or so but it seems guys just want to be chatty or send pictures (presumably dicks) even though I have said I won't view without a contribution. Should I even continue to try camming?
sexysusie
06-05-2014, 05:31 AM
If you're as in need of money as you say you are then take on a part time job with guaranteed income. That way you know your most important bills are covered . When the pressure is off you can enjoy just camming for the extra income, and experiment with different sites without the pressure. Men seem to smell desperation. The worst thing you can do when feeling that way, is to try and force the money in.
Glamourmilf
06-05-2014, 07:26 AM
Just a heads up. Game #2 of the hockey playoff is this Saturday. I'm kinda glad that it's on a Saturday, because I seem to have every strange and 'off' dude in my room on Saturdays. (Daytime I mean) nighttime is o.k.
Vlodina
06-05-2014, 08:07 AM
Where is Streamate's traffic at today?? Bloody ghost town, not even people begging, just the occasional lurker.
kittykrane
06-05-2014, 08:32 AM
Where is Streamate's traffic at today?? Bloody ghost town, not even people begging, just the occasional lurker.
Same here...I have NEVER had a day when I only made $5 in 90 minutes.....except today....lurkers galore...
Vlodina
06-05-2014, 08:40 AM
Same here...I have NEVER had a day when I only made $5 in 90 minutes.....except today....lurkers galore...
90 minutes was all I could handle!
Glamourmilf
06-05-2014, 08:55 AM
Has anyone considered that there might be something wrong with the site? (sm)
It should be good, being Thursday, and all.
I did have a longtime custie tell me that in exclusive yesterday, there was a huge delay for him.idk
SadieTaylor
06-05-2014, 08:57 AM
Thanks for the encouragement. I ended up logging off of MFC, hopping on SM and then by some magical power had a $54/hr hour. I haven't made that in an hour on there in the past 2 months, gives me a glimmer of hope. It's just been a rough past 2 months.
You are not ugly, nor do you suck. MFC is a hard site to do sometimes and it's a different hustle than the pay per minute sites. I do it occasionally and man it can be hard. AS for your period I think most of us have had that happen. It happened to be a couple of weeks ago during a shows. I was playing with a dildo and when I took it out blood was all over it. The custie was way cool about it and we continued the show. Hang in there and remember we all have shitty times.
HSVAKR
06-05-2014, 09:50 AM
What is the best camming site out there? Or are they all turning into the same? I was on mfc for over an hour and made less than 300 tokens. So I got off:-\
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 10:39 AM
What is the best camming site out there? Or are they all turning into the same? I was on mfc for over an hour and made less than 300 tokens. So I got off:-\
If you find it, let us know. It definitely doesn't seem to be SM anymore.
The way SM came to a sudden and crashing halt has me wondering wtf happened. It wasn't gradual for me just suddenly $75/hr being a slow day to $50/hr and now $35/hr being the norm. And I know $35/hr is good for a lot of people but I became reliant on $75/hr as a bare minimum.
We all didn't just suddenly become sucky cam girls. It IS something beyond our control. My other sites are picking up while SM gets worse and worse. I know a lot of people will say they still do amazing on there and I don't doubt there are a few left. But overwhelmingly people are seeing the site get worse. I ask a lot of people on the the front page and top rows. Everyone says the same thing - at least half their earnings are gone.
Glamourmilf
06-05-2014, 11:34 AM
^^^ Same with me. All the other sites have been good, or up and down, usual, but I just spent 1 hr. on SM, and nothing. Even regs were just wasting my time by popping in and out of chat. Plus, I don't see that many new screen names anymore.
I wonder if SM has been sold (mainly because of 3 things- 1. new company name on checks, 2.new layout., 3.new contract.
hmm.
at this rate, the company will fold, because even if many are still doing great, it's not enough for such a big box site to stay up and running.
I saw similar things happen in my corporate job, but I looked the other way..Right up until we all got our notices that the co.as going belly up.
lemonberry
06-05-2014, 11:58 AM
^^^ Same with me. All the other sites have been good, or up and down, usual, but I just spent 1 hr. on SM, and nothing. Even regs were just wasting my time by popping in and out of chat. Plus, I don't see that many new screen names anymore.
I wonder if SM has been sold (mainly because of 3 things- 1. new company name on checks, 2.new layout., 3.new contract.
hmm.
at this rate, the company will fold, because even if many are still doing great, it's not enough for such a big box site to stay up and running.
I saw similar things happen in my corporate job, but I looked the other way..Right up until we all got our notices that the co.as going belly up.
Those are some really good points. I've read about other sites that used to be good, but fell to shit. I really get the feeling this is what is happening to sm.
SimoneGray
06-05-2014, 12:02 PM
In your opinions, what are some of the next best sites to go to then? I'm still new to this and have been hit hard by the sudden failure of SM. I still have another site that my studio lets me work in which is decent, but I need the extra from splitcamming. MFC didn't work out for me, are there any other sites that can at least hold up to that of SM? Or are they all just suffering the same?
HSVAKR
06-05-2014, 12:10 PM
I absolutely hate doing public shows. I am on mfc. I've tried it a few times to see if it would work better than doing privates and I couldn't stand the fact that there were like 100 guests and 100 basics watching for free. And then there were only 3 premiums if that tipping me. Makes me cringe! I am more of a private chat based person. It's so obvious. Anyone have advice to where I can go? Plus the can score gives me anxiety!
temptingmodel
06-05-2014, 12:11 PM
Its not a new company name, ICF has always been ICF formally FCI.
That is NOT A NEW CONTRACT, nothing changed but saying your payment is ICF NO LONGER streamate. WE HAVE TO SIGN THIS, ITS A NEW NAME ON THE ACTUAL CHECK.
ICF/FCI has been paying all the affiliates the same name for years.
new layout, its good to change things up., ppl get bored
Performers change their site look all the time, why is so strange for streamate to do so
Twitter
Facebook
Bank of America
all for example have new sites for new apps, change will happen, it doesn't mean the site is going down.
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SUMMER, ITS HOT, PEOPLE ARE VACATION, GRADUATIONS UP AND DOWN Weekends where I live have a lot of outdoor bands, free family events, the outdoor swap markets on the weekends.
What I notice going on @streamate, very few models on the front page are working it. Doesn't seem friendly. I hear them saying to customers that the customers suck. They are rolling eyes speaking to the people who they are trying to convert into spending?
I hop into a models room that is just hanging with her customers, talking, joking and they are making money.
While moving this week, my entertainment is streamate and watching. lurking and I see why ppl are complaining.
The models I have talked to see no drop in income. I don't see a drop and I took off a day and half.
Daytime has always been slow @ streamate during hot months
This week and next are filled with graduations. all day events.
keep those in mind...
TeenageAnnie
06-05-2014, 12:12 PM
In your opinions, what are some of the next best sites to go to then? I'm still new to this and have been hit hard by the sudden failure of SM. I still have another site that my studio lets me work in which is decent, but I need the extra from splitcamming. MFC didn't work out for me, are there any other sites that can at least hold up to that of SM? Or are they all just suffering the same?
i live in hope that some1 builds the perfect cam site.
lemonberry
06-05-2014, 12:12 PM
In your opinions, what are some of the next best sites to go to then? I'm still new to this and have been hit hard by the sudden failure of SM. I still have another site that my studio lets me work in which is decent, but I need the extra from splitcamming. MFC didn't work out for me, are there any other sites that can at least hold up to that of SM? Or are they all just suffering the same?
For me personally, I don't have one to recommend. I've been camming since 2011. This past year has been bad and its to the point now I'm highly considering a job outside the home because I'm sick of my financial situation being so unstable. I hate the thought of that, I love working from home, but this is no way to live for me.
Best of luck to you Simone, I wish I had a good site to offer you.
temptingmodel
06-05-2014, 12:14 PM
Not one person here sucks, summer sucks in our biz during the day, esp during the day
tomasiello
06-05-2014, 12:21 PM
ufff...don't know,just got the fast internet yesterday in the afternoon,went on line on sm ,zero ,nada,imlive I don't want even start...just so frustrated...sorry ladies,just having wine and getting upset
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 12:21 PM
I want to think it's just summer.... but I've been through lots of summers and have never seen anything like this bad before. Especially since my other sites are the same or better.
I <3 tempting! I hope you're right! :)
SavannahLynnn
06-05-2014, 12:21 PM
If you're as in need of money as you say you are then take on a part time job with guaranteed income. That way you know your most important bills are covered . When the pressure is off you can enjoy just camming for the extra income, and experiment with different sites without the pressure. Men seem to smell desperation. The worst thing you can do when feeling that way, is to try and force the money in.
My issue with getting the regular job I need is transportation. I have literally been turned down by almost every place I've applied to for not owning a car no matter how qualified I was.
Btw my thread got moved here for some reason. Not sure if it really belongs in this section but oh well.
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 12:23 PM
Even regs were just wasting my time by popping in and out of chat.
This has been happening to me A LOT too, at first I thought my regs were becoming cheap asses but when I ask them they say they can't stay connected to private chat. Some are on iPads or phones but some are also having it happen on their computer too.
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 12:28 PM
Another thought... google stopped listing the majority of Streamates white label sites in search results because of their quality standards or something, they were not considered "original" sites or some crap like that. SM has sued google over it. I brought this up a while back. I wonder if that is also part of the lack in traffic, white labels bring in TONS of traffic. If they are not being listed in the largest search engine that MOST people use, it's going to have an impact.
temptingmodel
06-05-2014, 12:29 PM
Please keep in mind, regulars go bad, we label them regs bc they regularly log on, it is now habit.
Push them to the back of the line and focus on the new money coming in. Let them know they are being pushed bc you are here for money. Shit, I do, I tell them real fast, if your not going private, someone will.
they may have spent hella bank for a few months, regular shows and suddenly they are the regulars gone bad.
I have seen it happen many times to myself.
temptingmodel
06-05-2014, 12:31 PM
it was moved bc its part of camming sucks, this is where all the complaints go
My issue with getting the regular job I need is transportation. I have literally been turned down by almost every place I've applied to for not owning a car no matter how qualified I was.
Btw my thread got moved here for some reason. Not sure if it really belongs in this section but oh well.
That sucks that car determines if you get a gig, many ppl don't have cars, that sucks :(
temptingmodel
06-05-2014, 12:33 PM
I think this is why a ton are suddenly promoting us via twitter, hardcore.
Another thought... google stopped listing the majority of Streamates white label sites in search results because of their quality standards or something, they were not considered "original" sites or some crap like that. SM has sued google over it. I brought this up a while back. I wonder if that is also part of the lack in traffic, white labels bring in TONS of traffic. If they are not being listed in the largest search engine that MOST people use, it's going to have an impact.
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 12:35 PM
Google "live sex cams" - not sure if this is what a person would type or not LOL but just as an example what comes up:
chaturbate
cam4
bongacams (not a sm white label not sure who this is)
naked.com
rabbitscams (sm white label)
cams.com
gratisonlinesex.com (not even sure wtf this is, not a sm white label)
livesexcam01.com (not sure wtf this is either, not a sm white label)
WHY ISN'T STREAMATE.COM ANYWHERE??? ONE white label made it on the first page of search results. One. And not even the main site. How many people go past the first page of search results? Not many. I'm already scrolled through to page 5 and not a single SM white label to be found... let alone streamate.com itself.
Lets try "free live cams"
chaturbate, cam4, MFC, livejasmin..... NO SM.
Glamourmilf
06-05-2014, 12:46 PM
^^ Great point Sarah! Thanks for looking that up. Explains why all the ones You listed that I'm on are still busy for me.
Oh, and on my break I noticed some kind of a tennis (fench open ) tournament on right now. Lots of hot women tennnis players. Maybe sm custies are all watching that. Idk.
SavannahLynnn
06-05-2014, 12:51 PM
That sucks that car determines if you get a gig, many ppl don't have cars, that sucks :(
I swear it's a car-spiracy!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-05-2014, 01:13 PM
Bing and yahoo aren't much better for those terms either. I've read recently on quite a few webmaster forums and it's becoming more and more difficult
to be indexed in ol mighty Google. Now what I don't understand is why are the other big sites showing up and not SM? Did SM have that many whitelabels who got spanked during the Penguin Updates?
http://searchengineland.com/library/google/google-penguin-update
Google "live sex cams" - not sure if this is what a person would type or not LOL but just as an example what comes up:
chaturbate
cam4
bongacams (not a sm white label not sure who this is)
naked.com
rabbitscams (sm white label)
cams.com
gratisonlinesex.com (not even sure wtf this is, not a sm white label)
livesexcam01.com (not sure wtf this is either, not a sm white label)
WHY ISN'T STREAMATE.COM ANYWHERE??? ONE white label made it on the first page of search results. One. And not even the main site. How many people go past the first page of search results? Not many. I'm already scrolled through to page 5 and not a single SM white label to be found... let alone streamate.com itself.
Lets try "free live cams"
chaturbate, cam4, MFC, livejasmin..... NO SM.
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 01:16 PM
Bing and yahoo aren't much better for those terms either. I've read recently on quite a few webmaster forums and it's becoming more and more difficult
to be indexed in ol mighty Google. Now what I don't understand is why are the other big sites showing up and not SM? Did SM have that many whitelabels who got spanked during the Penguin Updates?
http://searchengineland.com/library/google/google-penguin-update
Yes, they had TOOOOONS of white labels. A good way to see this used to be to google your SM screen name. You would find pages after pages of SM white labels. Now, I google my SM screen name and it's mostly just random crap.
I think other sites didn't take the hit as much because they don't do white labels like SM did. I think they did more of the percentage of sales they send to the site type of thing for affiliates, where as SM just let people make duplicate sites.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-05-2014, 01:24 PM
This would make a lot of sense. For me summer time has always had a bit of a decline across the board. For everything adult related. I wasn't on SM last summer so I have no reports to compare. But I have seen nose dives on my affiliate sites before and that usually meant I got penalized during an update and had to make some changes. Yea this makes sense to me. I know there are other variables. The other a day came to my SM room from redtube. But he said he couldn't see me. Just a green screen was in the box. He could only hear me.
SaraLaughs
06-05-2014, 01:41 PM
Yeah, today SUCKS, only had 10% of time in paid chat which to me is ridiculous.
sexysusie
06-05-2014, 01:46 PM
Aw has been quieter than I've ever known it over the past couple of months. It's pretty scary that all the main sites seem to be suffering.
JaneBurgess
06-05-2014, 01:51 PM
Plus guys have their kids home from school. I've had customers have their kids walk into the room during a show.
Its not a new company name, ICF has always been ICF formally FCI.
That is NOT A NEW CONTRACT, nothing changed but saying your payment is ICF NO LONGER streamate. WE HAVE TO SIGN THIS, ITS A NEW NAME ON THE ACTUAL CHECK.
ICF/FCI has been paying all the affiliates the same name for years.
new layout, its good to change things up., ppl get bored
Performers change their site look all the time, why is so strange for streamate to do so
Twitter
Facebook
Bank of America
all for example have new sites for new apps, change will happen, it doesn't mean the site is going down.
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SUMMER, ITS HOT, PEOPLE ARE VACATION, GRADUATIONS UP AND DOWN Weekends where I live have a lot of outdoor bands, free family events, the outdoor swap markets on the weekends.
What I notice going on @streamate, very few models on the front page are working it. Doesn't seem friendly. I hear them saying to customers that the customers suck. They are rolling eyes speaking to the people who they are trying to convert into spending?
I hop into a models room that is just hanging with her customers, talking, joking and they are making money.
While moving this week, my entertainment is streamate and watching. lurking and I see why ppl are complaining.
The models I have talked to see no drop in income. I don't see a drop and I took off a day and half.
Daytime has always been slow @ streamate during hot months
This week and next are filled with graduations. all day events.
keep those in mind...
sexysusie
06-05-2014, 01:51 PM
My issue with getting the regular job I need is transportation. I have literally been turned down by almost every place I've applied to for not owning a car no matter how qualified I was.
Btw my thread got moved here for some reason. Not sure if it really belongs in this section but oh well.
Hey hun you can do other things from home. I did sales and marketing for myself for a couple if years before I found camming. There is also web search evaluation, admin, data processing, and tons of other options. That's assuming you don't already do clips and video sales? These can make a good, steady side income even when cams are slow.
JaneBurgess
06-05-2014, 02:25 PM
If Streamate's slow than its easy to figure out why. Gold shows have become $0 shows or super low rates, performers are giving away a ton of video's for free in Gold shows. lots of performers are naked in free chat (like fully naked and sometimes fucking themselves) performers flash for $5, etc. I am not insulting any of you if you that do what I listed, but when a whole site is becoming that, its is going to attract the wrong clientele. Freeloaders don't hang around sites unless they are getting freebies. I blame the sites as well because we pay them for traffic and what they have been sending sucks. They need to start paying for traffic again or bump our pay rate to 50 percent and we can send ourselves traffic.
Blovely
06-05-2014, 03:04 PM
If you find it, let us know. It definitely doesn't seem to be SM anymore.
The way SM came to a sudden and crashing halt has me wondering wtf happened. It wasn't gradual for me just suddenly $75/hr being a slow day to $50/hr and now $35/hr being the norm. And I know $35/hr is good for a lot of people but I became reliant on $75/hr as a bare minimum.
We all didn't just suddenly become sucky cam girls. It IS something beyond our control. My other sites are picking up while SM gets worse and worse. I know a lot of people will say they still do amazing on there and I don't doubt there are a few left. But overwhelmingly people are seeing the site get worse. I ask a lot of people on the the front page and top rows. Everyone says the same thing - at least half their earnings are gone.
I don't think its a sudden crash and halt. Some of us have been talking about SM slowing down/not being like it was for a while. I think what has happened is the suckiness mad its way up the ladder and now some of the top girls are feeling what the girls with lower placement have been feeling for a while.
I think the whole Google thing really affected SM, customers are probably at their wits end with the glitches, and I don't think SM is buying the same traffic they use to. To make things better I think they should get all of the glitches hammered out and figure out a new marketing strategy preferably one that works(makes us money).
CandyBubble
06-05-2014, 03:18 PM
ugh, having no-one talking and only members with 0 tokens lurking! Nothing I do gets a reply or any tokens D:
funismymiddlename
06-05-2014, 07:53 PM
streamate is so bad im thinking about going back to mfc i hate hustling mfc but i made more money there anyway. :( looks like im gonna have to jump ship.
SarahTime
06-05-2014, 11:49 PM
streamate is so bad im thinking about going back to mfc i hate hustling mfc but i made more money there anyway. :( looks like im gonna have to jump ship.
Yeah...... went back to MFC tonight myself actually. I was happy with what I made for my first night back on there.
Camigirl
06-06-2014, 08:24 AM
One good night equals one bad night for me. Chaturbate sucked balls last night. I had no goal, which it's rare if I do, and no pussy play, but did get the boobs out and ended up screwing with music for a couple hours and burning off calories dancing from time to time. Tips had been slow to come. But.... I did receive $150 total in gift cards to do 10 minute password shows when I hear beck from the guys for a time and date.
Not a complete loss I guess. I just had a bad night some customers had been telling me my chat was messed up, I refreshed but eh, ran with it when it was still messing up at times.
OMG. I watched a few top models today and one major studio account. It was horrible. You could tell it was so bad by just the things they were saying. Not out and out complaining, but I'm glad to say it wasn't just me. The studio quit 2 hours ahead of schedule. I made enough to buy toilet paper with a little left over for soap. Bad, bad, bad, week. Writing it down for next year. No more working the week of rent week after a major holiday. Ain't nobody got no time for that!!!!
Oh, and I might need a loan for tampons. LOL
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-06-2014, 12:01 PM
OMG. I watched a few top models today and one major studio account. It was horrible. You could tell it was so bad by just the things they were saying. Not out and out complaining, but I'm glad to say it wasn't just me. The studio quit 2 hours ahead of schedule. I made enough to buy toilet paper with a little left over for soap. Bad, bad, bad, week. Writing it down for next year. No more working the week of rent week after a major holiday. Ain't nobody got no time for that!!!!
Oh, and I might need a loan for tampons. LOL
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