View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
SaraLaughs
06-06-2014, 01:11 PM
Man... the last 2 days have been super discouraging. Barely any traffic, and every day seems to be worst than the last. I've come to expect around $21-$23/hour, this last week it's fallen to 15 :( I've been working more hours than usual, treating my customers right by sending them free pics after show and corresponding with them, generally being awesome... and almost nothing. Today I was on SM for 2 hours and made $12. Not really the SM I have come to know since I started!
IvyRose
06-06-2014, 01:17 PM
suckysuckysucky sm
First page first row and its soooo slow again. Its hit or miss these days! We just ahve to stick it out and wait for that big spender, he might pop up afterall when you got enough patience to sit it out in free chat (a little weed or a glass wine helps me tremendous these days). Pu
SaraLaughs
06-06-2014, 01:42 PM
Friday nights are always my best times, usually I get some cool regulars in and some fun/long new customers as well. It's gotta be better by tonight, right guys? RIGHT?! *nervous laughter*
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-06-2014, 01:52 PM
You'll make it! Best advice I've seen in a long time.
Friday nights are always my best times, usually I get some cool regulars in and some fun/long new customers as well. It's gotta be better by tonight, right guys? RIGHT?! *nervous laughter*
(a little weed or a glass wine helps me tremendous these days). Pu
SaraLaughs
06-06-2014, 01:54 PM
I try to abstain from smoking on cam because some guys think it's gross/trashy. But I sure as fuck will be getting baked tonight before I go on... I definitely need it!
CandyBubble
06-06-2014, 03:09 PM
ugh. For the past three days I've had this regular on MFC, he's nice enough, never rude about anything, never requests freebies but he has never tipped or taken me prvt and he ALWAYS has tokens. He talks SO much, and I'm pretty sure he's just there for the flashes paid by others >_>
JaneBurgess
06-06-2014, 03:41 PM
I hope so. Popped on there earlier than normal and it was just freeloaders. Sigh
Edit - It wasn't any better sadly. Boo
Friday nights are always my best times, usually I get some cool regulars in and some fun/long new customers as well. It's gotta be better by tonight, right guys? RIGHT?! *nervous laughter*
SoloDesire
06-06-2014, 04:56 PM
$4 in 2 hours on SM.
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BubblyBlonde
06-07-2014, 12:26 AM
So thankful for this thread. This week has been so slow. sitting there with freeloaders and one private in 2 hours time. LAME
SaraLaughs
06-07-2014, 12:54 AM
Yeah, it didn't get better tonight. It got WORSE. I'm giving it mayyyybe another hour and then I'm going to catch some sanity if there's no business.
Update: I hustled HARD and had 2 successful gold shows, one yoyeur nude reading which netted me $15, then a cum show which netted me $22, and then lucked into a long exclusive. Total for the last two hours? $69. Wonderful news after this shit week.
janeuk
06-07-2014, 08:42 AM
Ok not exactly sucks as the traffic was reasonable but arrgh.... one very long prvt chat which was all full on taboo, then the next guy who wanted to talk about eating shit!! I made good money today in the time I was on cam but I need to log out now and go wash out my mouth/brain while watching movies of fluffy cute kittens or something. *bleurgh*
Nina_Den
06-07-2014, 12:48 PM
wash out my mouth/brain while watching movies of fluffy cute kittens or something. *bleurgh*
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So much. I ain't never gonna complain about long privates, but sometimes shit gets so flat out weird (and I have to act like I'm totally turned on by it, obviously) that after logging off I find myself just wanting to do the most... trivial, "normal" stuff, like going to the grocery store and getting small, random stuff I don't even need.
Glamourmilf
06-07-2014, 01:04 PM
^^ For me, Saturday daytime (US) has ALWAYS brought those kind of guys around. I cam 40 hrs. a week, (for the last 4 years), so I don't think it's just a coincidence.
I have banned more guys today than I even bother to do every other day of the week.
Blovely
06-09-2014, 10:38 AM
Blah!!!!!
2 hours = $14
Taking a break, will log back on later tonight. Hope things pick up by then.
Glamourmilf
06-09-2014, 12:28 PM
^^ Same here!
Katie0
06-09-2014, 01:33 PM
3.6 hours in SM.. $111.00. I am exhausted being in freechat.. and I just told someone that their cock repulsed me (and no he doesn't like SPH or anything like that) I am so bitchy today.
funismymiddlename
06-09-2014, 03:56 PM
I swear mfc makes me want to kill someone I'm one of the prettiest girls there and I'm having a hard time getting back on track I know looks aren't everything but wtf. I'm so pissed I guess I'll try a diff time. I hate when guys have tokens but won't spend them it's like quit fucking staring at me you're saving them for someone else but holding up my chat fuck them.
JaneBurgess
06-09-2014, 05:04 PM
Looks don't seem to matter as much anymore. It used to be if you weren't hot no one wanted a show. Now they will buy shows from less attractive women who shove bats up their asses. Have you tried a theme show?
I swear mfc makes me want to kill someone I'm one of the prettiest girls there and I'm having a hard time getting back on track I know looks aren't everything but wtf. I'm so pissed I guess I'll try a diff time. I hate when guys have tokens but won't spend them it's like quit fucking staring at me you're saving them for someone else but holding up my chat fuck them.
funismymiddlename
06-09-2014, 05:09 PM
I'm gonna try going when there are less women online. I just hate how high school it seems like a bunch of nerds fawning over certain girls and treating others like crap. They'll say I'm saving all my tokens for model x so I'm just gonna watch your chat til she comes on.
anonymous camgirl
06-09-2014, 05:20 PM
WELL!.. I have been thinking for many years now that really hot girls doesn't necessarily make the best cam girl.. it's that cute , quirky girl, that is somewhat tomboyish that loves to play video games and be silly.. not some hot super model.. that's not personable at all.. the girls who love to play actual games, look cute, plays video games,. a lil emo.. etc etc.. hot super model type.. nah.. guys don't really wanna go to cam with that girl..lol... maybe once but .. i dunno?? that's my 12 yr old opinion.. i see a good camgirl.. i for one is NOT one...lol... but when i see one??? i could make her a super star!!..hahah.. j/k.. but i can tell what girls are the best kind of camgirls and who's not.
I swear mfc makes me want to kill someone I'm one of the prettiest girls there and I'm having a hard time getting back on track I know looks aren't everything but wtf. I'm so pissed I guess I'll try a diff time. I hate when guys have tokens but won't spend them it's like quit fucking staring at me you're saving them for someone else but holding up my chat fuck them.
funismymiddlename
06-09-2014, 05:30 PM
WELL!.. I have been thinking for many years now that really hot girls doesn't necessarily make the best cam girl.. it's that cute , quirky girl, that is somewhat tomboyish that loves to play video games and be silly.. not some hot super model.. that's not personable at all.. the girls who love to play actual games, look cute, plays video games,. a lil emo.. etc etc.. hot super model type.. nah.. guys don't really wanna go to cam with that girl..lol... maybe once but .. i dunno?? that's my 12 yr old opinion.. i see a good camgirl.. i for one is NOT one...lol... but when i see one??? i could make her a super star!!..hahah.. j/k.. but i can tell what girls are the best kind of camgirls and who's not.
different ppl have diff ideas about what makes a good cam girl. I just think diff sites work better for others mfc is good for girls who are patient and can tolerate bs. sm is more wham bam thank you mama and i like that. lol i missed my fetish freaks from sm.I hate hustling ass holes its like give me your money I'll make you cum. Long public chat sessions make me angry bc I'm a no nonsense type of person. I'm sarcastic and my humor is dry a lot of guys get their panties in a bunch and take it the wrong way they think I'm a snob. My ego is huge so I feel like they should pour tokens at me just bc. <<< I know that's bad. But anyway one mans trash is another mans treasure.
Nina_Den
06-09-2014, 11:49 PM
I know in theory I shouldn't care, but it always kinda sucks to read posts in here of girls complaining about making an X amount of money in Y period of time, acting like it's horrible, when for me it's the standard (which I'm absolutely fine with). Something a little humiliating and off-putting about it. I know that I should never compare and just be happy with what I make, but whenever I read such a post, I always think, "What, so in theory, those girls think I shouldn't be a camgirl cause it's not worth it for me anyway?".
Just early morning thoughts, I guess.
Lola12
06-10-2014, 03:02 AM
Caming has been bad, and nothing has changed. Although, I do KNOW I'm online on bad hours, but I can't to anything about
it since I live with my boyfriend, sooo, he's home during evenings and nights of course. But still, I have managed to pull it of before on early mornings :-[
Yeah I dunno. SM is starting to go bad too. Guys popping in and out :-[ And I mostly have swedish guys there (since I'm a swede myself) and they are very much
asleep in the morning, or ae of course, working. But the thing about SM that bothers me the most, is that I'm still not allowed to do gold shows! Many guys keeps asking
me about it, and when I tell them no, the leave my room asap. I've been waiting for over 3 weeks now! I stream in HD and I have 250 + that have me as a fav.
There's DEFINITELY a major market for the hot model type. I can think of a few top models who don't have much personality(or at least if they do it just doesn't come out on cam) yet they do great because of how they look. Throughout my stripping/camming career I myself have never been much of a hustler and only managed to do good because I do the 'Barbie thing.' That being said though, personality really goes a long way. There's a cam model I follow who is insanely naturally gorgeous and she has a perfect hourglass body....yet she is not rolling in the dough and it's because she has a horrific attitude. If she worked on how she comes off to customers she would make so much money I swear.
Funismymiddlename I have very similar 'fuck you pay me' mentality and that is why I cannot do MFC. Every now and then I give it another try and I just can't stand it.
Hot models are always going to be in demand. These are the ladies 98% of the guys that get online can not get. But, because they also represent to these guys ladies that they can not get, my guess is they have to put up with alot of shit from many of the guys that come into their room.
I often watch a model who is not model hot but has the most beautiful face and will tell the guys what time it is. She minces no words about " fuck you PAY me." And the guys eat it up. Sometimes guys like hot bitches. So for hourglass model who you think could be making more, it's really draining to go against your personality. Some ladies can pull off the fakey Oh honey sweetie cakes I really want your cum. And maybe she's happy with fuck you pay me.
Me personally it depends on what site I'm on. I'm not going to "be worked" any harder than I have to. But on one site I do nothing until they pay me. On another site I do just a little more. But I'm not going to mess up my first site by giving it all away when I have them trained that they have to pay me for what they want.
Anyway, that's just my take on things. Oh, and since this is the camming sucks thread. Yeah, it's still been sucking for me.
SoloDesire
06-10-2014, 05:10 AM
I know in theory I shouldn't care, but it always kinda sucks to read posts in here of girls complaining about making an X amount of money in Y period of time, acting like it's horrible, when for me it's the standard (which I'm absolutely fine with). Something a little humiliating and off-putting about it. I know that I should never compare and just be happy with what I make, but whenever I read such a post, I always think, "What, so in theory, those girls think I shouldn't be a camgirl cause it's not worth it for me anyway?".
Just early morning thoughts, I guess.
I agree and empathize with you on this. Which is why I never post numbers. It often comes off braggy, whether they mean it that way or not. "Oh darn, I ONLY made $250 in 3 hours today...What a horrible day!" It sounds incredibly greedy to me when I would kill to make that much in a day. Not sure why some can't keep personal goals to themselves, but yes it does come off wrong to many of us I'm sure. I remember the days when models never talked about the amounts they made...The good ol days when the market wasn't over saturated perhaps.
RedAlice
06-10-2014, 07:45 AM
I know in theory I shouldn't care, but it always kinda sucks to read posts in here of girls complaining about making an X amount of money in Y period of time, acting like it's horrible, when for me it's the standard (which I'm absolutely fine with). Something a little humiliating and off-putting about it. I know that I should never compare and just be happy with what I make, but whenever I read such a post, I always think, "What, so in theory, those girls think I shouldn't be a camgirl cause it's not worth it for me anyway?".
Just early morning thoughts, I guess.
I hear ya.
Especially as I've been having some really rough times, so even just making minimum payout is great for me, that money will go a long way and it's money I wouldn't have otherwise had.
Nina_Den
06-10-2014, 08:25 AM
^ Absolutely. I'll try to expand on it a bit more: I do not have a problem with girls "bragging". I think it's cool and shows the potential of camming. I do, however, have a big problem when girls - although indirectly - bring down other girls by complaining about their earnings. I remember reading some post in here saying something along the lines of "If I'd make $30 an hour I'd just kill myself".
It's super harsh. I make between $30-35 per hour myself and on most days, after working anywhere between 3-5 hours (that's the most I can give. I can also work only 3 or 4 days a week cause I don't live alone), I'm ecstatic. I suffer from depression and anxiety and cannot hold down a job for the life of me, so for me, being able to do this from the comfort of my own bed AND get that amount of money is fucking amazing. Where I live, the minimum wage is an insulting $6.70 an hour. It's insane to me just thinking about it. So I'm honestly just so happy and thankful to be making what I make.
anonymous camgirl
06-10-2014, 08:49 AM
sometimes i feel that way also.. my average is 30 bucks an hour and always has been.. the whole time, whether i am young, nice, thin, fat or old.. I don't get it I guess i was to old when i started at the ripe old age of 30....lol.. to command such huge hourly wages as some girls say they make..lol.. the most i ever made on a big box site is like 40 bucks an hour.. indy is another story...
SarahTime
06-10-2014, 12:38 PM
^ Absolutely. I'll try to expand on it a bit more: I do not have a problem with girls "bragging". I think it's cool and shows the potential of camming. I do, however, have a big problem when girls - although indirectly - bring down other girls by complaining about their earnings. I remember reading some post in here saying something along the lines of "If I'd make $30 an hour I'd just kill myself".
It's super harsh. I make between $30-35 per hour myself and on most days, after working anywhere between 3-5 hours (that's the most I can give. I can also work only 3 or 4 days a week cause I don't live alone), I'm ecstatic. I suffer from depression and anxiety and cannot hold down a job for the life of me, so for me, being able to do this from the comfort of my own bed AND get that amount of money is fucking amazing. Where I live, the minimum wage is an insulting $6.70 an hour. It's insane to me just thinking about it. So I'm honestly just so happy and thankful to be making what I make.
It's all relative and you should probably not compare yourself to anyone else. I do think $30/hr is awful, FOR ME. I know plenty are ecstatic with that. But when I've built a life around 3x that then yah, $30/hr is horrible for me.
I'm not trying to be harsh but why take it personal what other make or what others think is good or bad? I don't get upset when others make $4k in a single week. Nor would I be upset if they said $2k in a week sucked FOR THEM. It's relative.
I don't think anyone here is saying that $30/hr is just flat out bad all around and anyone who makes that just sucks and should quit. When we say what "sucks" it's relative. It's important to keep that in mind, otherwise you just end up feeling hurt when it's not even personal toward you.
SoloDesire
06-10-2014, 12:41 PM
Why?! Why do I even bother logging in on Tuesdays?!!!
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Issabelle
06-10-2014, 12:45 PM
Agreed with the above. However, I think it's also a matter of forgetting we're all in geographically different locations (i.e. cost of living) and family situations (i.e. single, single-parent, family households...). I live in a place where I can afford to live comfortably in a 2-bedroom apartment and pay my bills for about $1300 a month (including taxes), and I also don't have to worry about kids or a spouse. $2000 means spending money and lots of going out/shopping. That's $24,000 per year and below the poverty line in many areas! I used to work for $9.50-10.50 an hour in my industry and pulled nearly 80 hour weeks to make $2000. Now, I pull an average of $38/hour on SM and think that's stellar. Granted, I only have to work like 52 hours a month or 2 hours a day to make $2000 at my current rate.
However, I have friends seriously struggling to pay bills on $2000 per month. For families with car payments, mortgages, groceries, etc., needing twice that isn't unreasonable and being a sole breadwinner is even worse. So needing $1000 per week and only having 20 hours to do it means an average of $50 an hour. If it's slow or responsibilities are piling up, I can understand the frustrations.
Just my .02 though.
SarahTime
06-10-2014, 12:49 PM
Agreed with the above. However, I think it's also a matter of forgetting we're all in geographically different locations (i.e. cost of living) and family situations (i.e. single, single-parent, family households...). I live in a place where I can afford to live comfortably in a 2-bedroom apartment and pay my bills for about $1300 a month (including taxes), and I also don't have to worry about kids or a spouse. $2000 means spending money and lots of going out/shopping. That's $24,000 per year and below the poverty line in many areas! I used to work for $9.50-10.50 an hour in my industry and pulled nearly 80 hour weeks to make $2000. Now, I pull an average of $38/hour on SM and think that's stellar. Granted, I only have to work like 52 hours a month or 2 hours a day to make $2000 at my current rate.
However, I have friends seriously struggling to pay bills on $2000 per month. For families with car payments, mortgages, groceries, etc., needing twice that isn't unreasonable and being a sole breadwinner is even worse. So needing $1000 per week and only having 20 hours to do it means an average of $50 an hour. If it's slow or responsibilities are piling up, I can understand the frustrations.
Just my .02 though.
Exactly!
I so wish I could live on $30/hr. You can't find a 3 bedroom house or apartment in this area less than $1400/mo unless you want to live in more dangerous areas. And with kids, I can't do that. As soon as my husband is done with school in 1 more year, he will be making good money and then I will happily accept $30/hr! It's just so relative, I hate when people feel bad over others earnings. I will make it a point to not post numbers, because I know I've said $30/hr "sucks" before and I would hate to make someone feel bad. :(
Nina_Den
06-10-2014, 01:10 PM
Sarah, I now completely understand where you're coming from. It's easy for me to forget and take for granted the fact that my parents are providing food and shelter for me, that I do not have kids nor bills to pay. For me, the long-term goal is to save enough camming money this year in order to be able to afford renting my own tiny place (meaning I'll finally be able to give in serious hours cause I'll be alone), taking baby steps on my way to independence, and $30 would still be absolutely great by then, by my own standards.
And yet, I'm still terrified by the thoughts of being dependent on camming when it comes to providing for myself, let alone for a FAMILY. In that context, yes, I totally understand how $30 would be quite horrible, especially when you don't have the mental energy and/or time to give more than 2-4 hours at a time. Completely understood and respected.
Let us not forget that at the end of the day, whatever the circumstances are, we are all in this together, to help and support and provide a gateway from the bb crowd. <3
Bootsie
06-10-2014, 01:23 PM
I ACTUALLY just made 0 tokens in an hour on MFC. That has NEVER happened before. WTF. Oh well, logged off there and now I'm going to hit SM for the first time in 6+ months to salvage the night!
RedAlice
06-10-2014, 02:13 PM
It's true that we all have different circumstances.
The reason I'm so appreciative of my small $20 per hour is because I'm a single mother with a small child and a shitload of debt, who's struggling to pay bills, etc. I am used to stretching much less money much further (I was on $16 per hour in my vanilla job, and more than half my wages went to childcare & commuting) so the $20 I make in my own home, while having the joy of being a full-time mother, and starting to feel as though my bills and debts are within my control? Is SO GREAT. Even if it's just a fraction of what I really need.
A couple of years before I was a parent and was renting alone, I was once in a situation where I had my last £5 ($9ish) and had to decide whether to buy some food, or turn the heating on. In freezing weather. With 3 days until pay day. As a retail manager! The cost of living here is ridic. I've gone to bed hungry, I've worn All The Clothes to keep warm, I've been faced with the possibility of homelessness. My $20 per hour is precious. :)
SimoneGray
06-10-2014, 02:19 PM
A couple of years before I was a parent and was renting alone, I was once in a situation where I had my last £5 ($9ish) and had to decide whether to buy some food, or turn the heating on. In freezing weather. With 3 days until pay day. As a retail manager! The cost of living here is ridic. I've gone to bed hungry, I've worn All The Clothes to keep warm, I've been faced with the possibility of homelessness. My $20 per hour is precious. :)
I've been where you are, and sometimes things still end up there...I am alone and renting, no kids etc, but things are still tough sometimes despite camming. Some weeks if I make $150 its a HUGE win, simply because that is the money I need to get through the week etc, it is all relative I guess.
On that note, I have so much respect for you ladies who are supporting children an camming...I have no idea how you even make that work. Its awe-inspiring
SaraLaughs
06-10-2014, 02:26 PM
Camming isn't really JUST about money though, it's about freedom as well. For me at least. For people in our society, unless you are a trust fund baby, there is no easy way through life... no job you don't have to pour all your physical and emotional energy into that will also earn you good money, make your own hours, do it when it's a good time and convenient for you. Camming allows that. Feel like blowing it off so you can go do what makes you happy? No problem, there are more hours later. Need to take some time off due to a breakup, stress, an injury? No boss to make you feel guilty about that. Need to make some money for an unexpected expense, NOW?! You have the ability to do so without hocking your shit.
That's what I've loved about it, so far. Liberation, both from societal mores that women should keep their legs closed to have value, and liberation from the daily grind so many people suffer through.
Camming every day is like playing a small lottery with very high odds. Sure, most days you're just going to get up enough to get by, but some days you're going to strike it rich! And that's pretty awesome too. =D
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 04:12 PM
What they are making is bad to them. A lot of us have been around for years and started when camming was really, really good. Anyone on here would have easily made a grand just logging on. Times changed and you have to make adjustments. So it's hard when you are used to making a high figure and you work just as hard to make half. Never, ever feel bad about what you make because you kick ass and this is a hard profession to work in. We are all lucky to be able to do this and work from our house, on our schedule.
I know in theory I shouldn't care, but it always kinda sucks to read posts in here of girls complaining about making an X amount of money in Y period of time, acting like it's horrible, when for me it's the standard (which I'm absolutely fine with). Something a little humiliating and off-putting about it. I know that I should never compare and just be happy with what I make, but whenever I read such a post, I always think, "What, so in theory, those girls think I shouldn't be a camgirl cause it's not worth it for me anyway?".
Just early morning thoughts, I guess.
SaraLaughs
06-10-2014, 04:32 PM
I hope you don't consider me rude for asking this, but what makes us so 'lucky' to be able to cam? Most women in the Western world are able to do so, it's not like you need any special prerequisites to do so, except perhaps general preparedness. Do you mean we are lucky to be able to take advantage of this snapshot in time, where women are able to partake in sex work without having to physically meet/touch someone in order to make a living? I'm just curious about your perspective.
What they are making is bad to them. A lot of us have been around for years and started when camming was really, really good. Anyone on here would have easily made a grand just logging on. Times changed and you have to make adjustments. So it's hard when you are used to making a high figure and you work just as hard to make half. Never, ever feel bad about what you make because you kick ass and this is a hard profession to work in. We are all lucky to be able to do this and work from our house, on our schedule.
Issabelle
06-10-2014, 05:40 PM
I hope you don't consider me rude for asking this, but what makes us so 'lucky' to be able to cam? Most women in the Western world are able to do so, it's not like you need any special prerequisites to do so, except perhaps general preparedness. Do you mean we are lucky to be able to take advantage of this snapshot in time, where women are able to partake in sex work without having to physically meet/touch someone in order to make a living? I'm just curious about your perspective.
I would actually use the term lucky. Camming isn't for everyone, as we all well know and frequently advise prospective cam girls who come to the forum. My own good friend recently tried to get into it and just couldn't make it work. She's working awful jobs at just above minimum wage and barely keeping her head above water. Camming would be great for her--she's sex positive, not too shy, fits the BBW niche to a T. But she doesn't have the hustle to make money. Her personality isn't made for it. Tons of my friends think it would be cool, but not for them, and not in the 'oh, I'm too good for that' way so much as the 'I couldn't do it successfully' way. It's easy money to make because we've all got the unique skill set for camming, like some people finding nursing 'easy' because their skills make them a good nurse or wall street executives have excellent business skills.
That's just my perspective. Not everyone can actually do this job well and make a living off it, so I call that lucky. Jane may well have meant snapshot in time though.
Spinnerette
06-10-2014, 06:22 PM
Camming sucks right now because my Type A tendencies are making it so that I'm very short on patience (people thinking they can hustle a hustler is grating on my very last nerve). But I am incredibly lucky to have camming as an option and very gifted to know how to make it work for me when the mainstream outlets are failing. I work when I want for however long I want and my earning potential is damned near limitless. Just gotta keep looking at the bright side...
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 06:39 PM
We are lucky. A lot of people that try camming or the adult industry in general fail. It's takes a lot of hard work, follow thru, personality, patience and stamina to succeed in this industry. It's takes a special person to be able to get naked online and make money at it. If it was so easy, than you would have a lot more people doing it. I've watched a lot of performers come and go over the years because they assumed being cute was enough and it isn't.
I'm lucky because I am able to work from home, I shoot what I want to shoot, I make my own schedule, I work on the site that I pick and I get paid to be myself. A lot of people would kill to have all the freedom we have.
I hope you don't consider me rude for asking this, but what makes us so 'lucky' to be able to cam? Most women in the Western world are able to do so, it's not like you need any special prerequisites to do so, except perhaps general preparedness. Do you mean we are lucky to be able to take advantage of this snapshot in time, where women are able to partake in sex work without having to physically meet/touch someone in order to make a living? I'm just curious about your perspective.
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 06:40 PM
We are lucky. A lot of people that try camming or the adult industry in general fail. It's takes a lot of hard work, follow thru, personality, patience and stamina to succeed in this industry. It's takes a special person to be able to get naked online and make money at it. If it was so easy, than you would have a lot more people doing it. I've watched a lot of performers come and go over the years because they assumed being cute was enough and it isn't.
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Blovely
06-10-2014, 08:15 PM
I know in theory I shouldn't care, but it always kinda sucks to read posts in here of girls complaining about making an X amount of money in Y period of time, acting like it's horrible, when for me it's the standard (which I'm absolutely fine with). Something a little humiliating and off-putting about it. I know that I should never compare and just be happy with what I make, but whenever I read such a post, I always think, "What, so in theory, those girls think I shouldn't be a camgirl cause it's not worth it for me anyway?".
Just early morning thoughts, I guess.
I agree and empathize with you on this. Which is why I never post numbers. It often comes off braggy, whether they mean it that way or not. "Oh darn, I ONLY made $250 in 3 hours today...What a horrible day!" It sounds incredibly greedy to me when I would kill to make that much in a day. Not sure why some can't keep personal goals to themselves, but yes it does come off wrong to many of us I'm sure. I remember the days when models never talked about the amounts they made...The good ol days when the market wasn't over saturated perhaps.
I totally feel you @Nina_Den. I average about $25 an hour, every now and then I'll make more but its on rare occasions. I use to feel bad when I read about higher earnings. I think I got fed up and stopped caring because I have good lighting and internet, upgraded my computer and cam, and changed my room hustle yet my per hour rate stayed the same. Spending a shit load of $$ on a new computer and camera just for my per hour rate to stay the same kinda felt like a slap in the face. The only things I haven't done is upgrade my internet and promote myself. Eventually I plan on promoting myself but having read about models with a higher per hour rates then mine who don't have to promote themselves to have it makes me feel like "if she doesn't have to do that why should I".
Although I'd love for my per hour rate to be higher and to make what top models make I am so over caring about my per hour rate because I feel like I've tried almost everything. Now I just focus on trying to make my goal...which tends to be what sucks for some models. I get where they're coming from though because if they're used to making a certain amount then what takes me 4 hours to make could be sucky for them.
Although I'm done trying to figure out how to up my per hour rate posts about numbers have become inspiring to me now. But at the same time I totally understand where models are coming from when they say the feel bad when they read posts concerning numbers. However I also think that people should be happy about what they make and should be able to express what they've made. If models never posted numbers then I would've never known that what I was making when I first started camming wasn't average at all. Never would've known that it was possible to make $500, $800, $1000, etc in a week or day. I would've had no idea what potential camming had/has. I don't know one industry that doesn't discuss earnings or potential earnings.
takiaya
06-10-2014, 10:23 PM
Camming sucks because I made less than $4 an hr tonight so far xD, hows that for sharing numbers LOL
JaneBurgess
06-10-2014, 11:20 PM
Hugs. Basketball was on and I know a ton of guys were watching.
Camming sucks because I made less than $4 an hr tonight so far xD, hows that for sharing numbers LOL
Blovely
06-10-2014, 11:33 PM
I would actually use the term lucky. Camming isn't for everyone, as we all well know and frequently advise prospective cam girls who come to the forum. My own good friend recently tried to get into it and just couldn't make it work. She's working awful jobs at just above minimum wage and barely keeping her head above water. Camming would be great for her--she's sex positive, not too shy, fits the BBW niche to a T. But she doesn't have the hustle to make money. Her personality isn't made for it. Tons of my friends think it would be cool, but not for them, and not in the 'oh, I'm too good for that' way so much as the 'I couldn't do it successfully' way. It's easy money to make because we've all got the unique skill set for camming, like some people finding nursing 'easy' because their skills make them a good nurse or wall street executives have excellent business skills.
That's just my perspective. Not everyone can actually do this job well and make a living off it, so I call that lucky. Jane may well have meant snapshot in time though.
You know what I've never thought about it like that. I sucked at school and working a regular job, I didn't want to do either. Other people seemed to do both with ease but both felt like I was holding myself against my will, which kind of made me feel like a failure. Although camming can be taxing I find it quiet easy, the only real struggle I have or I should say had was laziness. After getting over society's brainwash I felt like this job was a natural fit for me, I never thought about the fact that I may have a unique or special skill set to do this job.
SaraLaughs
06-11-2014, 12:20 PM
In my country (the most highly educated country in the world, with over 50% of the adult population with Bachelor's degrees or higher) having a degree is pretty much taught as the... be all end all of the adult world. If you don't have some kind of education, or work in a trade (long ass hours and terrible for your overall health), you're pretty much fucked for options. I went to college for 2 years, spend $28,000 to do so, specialized in a profession that I was told would have plenty of $20+/hour full time jobs waiting for me when I got out... only to emerge in my last semester to a government hiring freeze. I was told the best option after that was to further my education in the field (social work), move cities so I could obtain that fabled Bachelor's degree and hope some private agency would find my resume IMPRESSIVE enough to hire me. You know what? Fuck that. It's not that I'm not smart, it's just that quite frankly I think ANYONE who has spent decades of their time in education and HAS SKILLS to be able to find at least a decent job, enough to live off of, and not put themselves further in massive debt on a hope and a prayer.
So yeah, I'd say it's pretty lucky camming's an option for me in that way. :P
Nina_Den
06-12-2014, 05:57 AM
Been on for 3 and a half hours and it's been like pulling teeth. Not because there wasn't any work - it was pretty okay, average, but I swear EVERY single guy in private today has been abusive and demanding. It's been HARD. I was ready to take my $90 and call it a day, but then FINALLY came someone smart, handsome and nice -- so why write it in the "Camming sucks" thread? Well, because in the middle of the session my dad came back home (he's unemployed and annoying and just ugh) and I had to tell the guy "well, it's not your lucky day", and before I logged off I could still see the "BUT... NO!" expression on his face.
Hope Sunday would be better. Meanwhile, Orange Is The New Black is calling me.
Renton
06-12-2014, 08:19 AM
no traffic in my room today whatsoever, and I was doing really well yesterday. hmm. with sm it's like this all the time for me, one day I can make $200 in 3 hours and the next day is sit here, bored to death with $8 after 2 hours. I guess I should go do my laundry then...