View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
anonymous camgirl
09-19-2014, 10:58 AM
Don't forget the guys who greet you with a series of flashing hearts.. has anyone ever seen a guy buy a show who does that?? Not me!.. Instantly I know they won't spend money no matter what haha
They have NO idea...LOL
Glamourmilf
09-19-2014, 11:05 AM
^^ OMG! Those flashing hearts! Sooo annoying! I wish there was a way to clear 'chat' texts, so we don't have to look at that until it rolls up past...
Or, if there is a way to clear it, (other than logging off), I'd love to know.
TheBrownFox
09-19-2014, 11:32 AM
But maybe it's only me that prefers a comfy and casual look when I stay home.
I live in a city that values looks, and being dolled up, even to take out the trash, so it's refreshing for me to not have to do that on cam.
I don't put on makeup either for camming. I'm not a makeup person, except for plum eyeshadow sometimes (I read somewhere that plum brings out the gold in your brown eyes). I just plug in my cam, make sure I'm at least topless, and log into Cams Nude Chat. Lol. I put on chapstick and lotion as needed, and if I notice strands of hair sticking up funny, I'll grab a brush real quick. I like things that way, and not feeling like there's a bunch of prep work involved for camming.
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 11:53 AM
I'm going to make money today.
Well...
I mean...
I'm going to die trying to make money today!
Key words: Try & die (in that order)
ashley jane
09-19-2014, 11:58 AM
Attempted DYI fix for this irresponsible neighbor (whose dog should be taken by a rescue!): tell your mom to go buy a cheap roll or two of chicken wire (18" wide is best). I used it to fence in my pitbull to prevent her digging out, but it'll work the same for digging in. Fold it in half length wise so that half of it is attached to the fence and half of the width lays across the ground. It prevents digging perfectly. She'd have to line the outside of the fence though, since the neighbor dog is digging in. If the fence is wood, it can be stapled in or just held by decorative rocks/bricks every few feet (gotta be heavy though). A chain link fence ban be zip tied in. Very cheap fix I've used with my puppy.
And I second the idea of shoveling the shit into her yard! Most areas give citations and tickets to people who don't pick up after the dog. I'd honestly call the cops (non-emergency) and take videos so she can be cited. Maybe then she'll learn to clean up!
They like to argue and blast music in the middle of the night and she's called and nothing ever happens. She's not in a nice area so guess cops don't care because they have shootings and robberies to deal with. I can't remember what she said she's doing with the fence. she has a wall with bricks that she's rearranging so the dog can't dig into her yard.
That truly sucks.
A few weeks ago this lady in the area said to me "I don't know why my dog is always barking at you! You've even pet him before!" I said "Really? I did? I don't remember that." All I know is I'm not going anywhere near that dog ever again because he jumped up on me and kept scratching at my stomach. That shit hurt, and it really scared me that I damn near fell onto a rock on the ground trying to back away. I imagine if I had been pregnant, I would've REALLY been pissed and even more shaken up.
I hate when people don't control their dog. I had a little dog, a cockapoo, and I hated taking her for walks. There's two apartment buildings on my street and I took her for a walk and we had to pass them. One of the tenants had a rotweiler in the yard and there was like 5 people out there with the dog and you would think he'd be chained up. I still decided to cross the street so the dogs won't bark at each other. Well the rotweiler spotted us and ran over to us trying to attack my dog. My neighbor that I know was driving by, as I'm screaming and crying holding my dog trying to not to get either of us hurt, she started yelling and honking her horn trying to scare the dog away. Finally the mom of the dog's owner came over and got the dog. Really? Luckily we were both just shaken up and didn't get any scratches. A few days later that dog was gone.
My aunt from out of town stayed with us with her boyfriend and pitbull. I took the dog for a walk and a rotweiler from different people started attacking us. This pitbull is a baby she was hiding from the wind, the rain, everything so of course she was terrified of that dog. She had a metal chain that I was using to try and keep that dog back and I'm screaming help thinking some one would come out cause a loud growling dog and me screaming. Cars drove by no one helped. Then the owners drive by and start calling the dog seeing what he's doing and he wouldn't go to them so the owner gave up!! I very slowly had us walk back home, swatting the dog when he got to close, gave up on screaming for help. We finally made it to my house and up the steps and something caught the dogs eye and I ran in and locked the door behind us. He stayed in our yard for like 20 minutes. My aunt and her bf were out and chased the dog away when they got to the house.
JaneBurgess
09-19-2014, 12:00 PM
That's what happens when you want to be like MFC. They got their wish and the performers are suffering for their greed.
ya know?? SM used to be a GOLD MINE.;. it's like all the gold has been mined and nothing but gravel left...
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 12:00 PM
Re: The VENT Thread, post about things that piss u off
Men. In general.
Glamourmilf
09-19-2014, 12:00 PM
^^ I love that also. I'm really getting into being back on cams.com, being in the nude chat section also.
And on my private based sites, I don't even show my face from the nose up anymore. My custies are between 20-35 y.o., and only want to jerk off to my ass anyway. Plus, even with bj's, they only have to see my huge mouth, and big lips on the cam!
I got this idea when I realized that they hardly ever even show above their torso in c2c anyway.
But the main reason I do it, is because of all the free chat and show cappers.
It hasn't made a difference in my earnings one bit.
Loves it!
I just have to back this thread up a minute. $4 dollars for 20 min I mean it's all good. She's making money for a minute until they've seen it. But if I could do that I'd be able to afford a mansion in Beverly Hills in a year doing exclusives. I mean dildos in your ass. I guess it's just not worth anything anymore. smh. It's amazing my lame ass gets what it does for what I do.
RaeRae
09-19-2014, 12:23 PM
Welp, today I'm getting even worse traffic and ruder freeloaders begging me to fist my ass in free chat. Seriously, why can't the extreme stuff be kept in exclusives as then the freeloaders won't have fresh inspiration for begging at least.
Fitandpretty
09-19-2014, 12:25 PM
I just have to back this thread up a minute. $4 dollars for 20 min 3 dildo anal show OMG( in best valley girl talk) and 10 hours video and something else I think it was 350 pics. I mean it's all good. She's making money for a minute until they've seen it. But if I could do that I'd be able to afford a mansion in Beverly Hills in a year doing exclusives. I mean 3 dildos in your ass. I guess it's just not worth anything anymore. smh. It's amazing my lame ass gets what it does for what I do.
3 in the ass at the same time??? I'm sure her poor rectum wants to pack up and leave lol. Well mine would. It's amazing some of the stuff that some people can stick up their butt.
Missbeth
09-19-2014, 02:16 PM
I just have to back this thread up a minute. $4 dollars for 20 min 3 dildo anal show OMG( in best valley girl talk) and 10 hours video and something else I think it was 350 pics. I mean it's all good. She's making money for a minute until they've seen it. But if I could do that I'd be able to afford a mansion in Beverly Hills in a year doing exclusives. I mean 3 dildos in your ass. I guess it's just not worth anything anymore. smh. It's amazing my lame ass gets what it does for what I do.
I think I know who you're talking about... she's a member here and does very well for herself....... Since you can't do that (and most ppl cant) I'm guessing the customers she caters to aren't the same customers you cater too.
Different hustles for different people.
audritwo
09-19-2014, 03:16 PM
I just have to back this thread up a minute. $4 dollars for 20 min 3 dildo anal show OMG( in best valley girl talk) and 10 hours video and something else I think it was 350 pics. I mean it's all good. She's making money for a minute until they've seen it. But if I could do that I'd be able to afford a mansion in Beverly Hills in a year doing exclusives. I mean 3 dildos in your ass. I guess it's just not worth anything anymore. smh. It's amazing my lame ass gets what it does for what I do.
I think she is awesome.
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 03:43 PM
I think I know who you're talking about... she's a member here and does very well for herself....... Since you can't do that (and most ppl cant) I'm guessing the customers she caters to aren't the same customers you cater too.
Different hustles for different people.
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Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 03:47 PM
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kortneykay
09-19-2014, 03:53 PM
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What another model does has no bearing on me and my room. If she wants to sell 30 million photos and shove 5 mac toy trucks up her ass that is her prerogative and who is anyone else to judge? Her hustle is her own and she's making money. Good for her. If she's serving 15 yr olds without knowing it, who do you think you're serving in your shows? We have no control over the members who view us because they are supposed to be 18+. That is a SM thing. If I ever get a whiff of some kid I block and report. What else can you do, we work on an adult site. Don't let another model intimidate you.
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 03:54 PM
Rant over :)
MsBellaSpanxx
09-19-2014, 05:05 PM
I hustled soooo very very hard today and I had the worst day on SM since I started back in May. I usually keep it positive even when it's slow, but the entitled freeloaders and time wasters spewing their dirty fantasies in Free had me wielding the banhammer and calling mofos out like crazy. I am now cranky and exhausted and need to get my hands on a drink STAT. This has been the worst $$$ week for me and I've been putting the hustle and the hours in!
(my rant over) ;)
By the way, I've been lurking on SW for awhile. I'm Bella - you ladies all rock my world and I've learnt so much from you! <3
MsBellaSpanxx
09-19-2014, 05:05 PM
I hustled soooo very very hard for hours and hours today and I had the worst day on SM since I started back in May. I usually keep it positive even when it's slow, but the entitled freeloaders and time wasters spewing their dirty fantasies in Free had me wielding the banhammer and calling mofos out like crazy. I am now cranky and exhausted and need to get my hands on a drink STAT. This has been the worst $$$ week for me and I've been putting the hustle and the hours in!
(my rant over) ;)
By the way, I've been lurking on SW for awhile. I'm Bella - you ladies all rock my world and I've learnt so much from you! <3
TheBrownFox
09-19-2014, 05:07 PM
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I just fucked up and lost the entire message I was about to post. *facepalm*
Anyway, I understand your frustration (I no longer cam on SM and MFC, cuz I had decided I was so done with motherfucking FREE CHAT), however right now you're sort of being a bully. Bumping a thread with hopes that a certain model will read it? Come on, dude. I like you too much to see you talk yourself into getting an infraction on here.
Also, I don't know if this is the case with you or not...but if you find that your income is majorly suffering and you're at a point where you're really worried, make the necessary adjustments you need to make for yourself. These other models are not gonna change up their shows just because you're ranting about them on a forum. They don't care.
Add another site (s) to the mix...ditch the site (s) that's not working out for you...experiment with something different...hell, go on RatRaceRebellion and browse other work-from-home opportunities on there (that's the best site I've seen so far for info on work-from-home jobs). Me...I've had to apply to other jobs, and that's something I thought I'd never do. But I need guaranteed money, and that's one thing I can say about working a "regular job." You go in/out of there knowing that you're gonna make X dollars that day, and that's what I need. Too many bills/expenses piling up...
SarahTime
09-19-2014, 05:13 PM
I think she is awesome.
I totally think she's awesome too......... I just don't get the "$0 gold show" mentality.... especially when most of the time, it doesn't pan out where they reach goals higher than they could if they charged. I will admit, I've spent time watching countdowns of $0 shows and MOST of the time, they end up ditching the idea and charging. Why not just be like, okay this clearly doesn't work, and charge from the get go?
I realize her customers probably are not my customers... however, when a free show is going on, guys are going to watch even if it might not usually be their cup of tea. It's free... they don't have to pay a thing... why not watch?
I always notice a big decline in traffic with a $0 show going on. It's weird.... people stopped doing them for a while there, suddenly it's becoming a "thing" again.
And just to add, the problem with $0 shows is that is heavily reinforces that freeloader mentality that we all seem to hate so much. Am I directly missing out on money due to $0 shows? Maybe, maybe not... but one thing is for sure it's not doing anyone any good, even the models doing them, in the long run, they are not a good thing for the model either. A huge majority of the guys in the show are not paying. A select few, probably hard core regs and fans contribute the most. Sure a random guy might throw in a measley buck. But all it's doing is reinforcing the freeloaders. And we all hate freeloaders. Even the models directly rewarding them with free shows.
TheBrownFox
09-19-2014, 05:21 PM
Men. In general.
Same here. I just don't trust them anymore, and I'm starting to think that I may be one of those ladies who grows old, never marries, and has a bunch of cats (not really...I can't stand cats...). :P And then you see on the t.v. shows/movies where guys are getting ready to marry the love of their life, and the night before they cheat on their "soulmate" during their bachelor party. Like WTF? I've been single for a very long time, and something like that (falling in love with a good man I can actually trust, only to have him betray me and fail at keeping his dick in his pants) would absolutely crush me.
JaneBurgess
09-19-2014, 05:29 PM
Exactly. Most men aren't going to pass up a free porn show. I am more annoyed that Streamate allows it and didn't put any set rate for gold shows. They would have been doing everyone a favor if they made gold shows a buck a minute minimum. I think some of these performers charge low rates and give stuff away because the gold customers overall are becoming cheaper and cheaper. They expect video's and pictures in gold shows. They ask for nudity before the show starts. Gold shows created a horrible change in customers and no one can dispute that because the traffic for the site has fallen 50 percent since they started. We lost a lot of great customers and they were replaced with freeloaders.
I totally think she's awesome too......... I just don't get the "$0 gold show" mentality.... especially when most of the time, it doesn't pan out where they reach goals higher than they could if they charged. I will admit, I've spent time watching countdowns of $0 shows and MOST of the time, they end up ditching the idea and charging. Why not just be like, okay this clearly doesn't work, and charge from the get go?
I realize her customers probably are not my customers... however, when a free show is going on, guys are going to watch even if it might not usually be their cup of tea. It's free... they don't have to pay a thing... why not watch?
I always notice a big decline in traffic with a $0 show going on. It's weird.... people stopped doing them for a while there, suddenly it's becoming a "thing" again.
And just to add, the problem with $0 shows is that is heavily reinforces that freeloader mentality that we all seem to hate so much. Am I directly missing out on money due to $0 shows? Maybe, maybe not... but one thing is for sure it's not doing anyone any good, even the models doing them, in the long run, they are not a good thing for the model either. A huge majority of the guys in the show are not paying. A select few, probably hard core regs and fans contribute the most. Sure a random guy might throw in a measley buck. But all it's doing is reinforcing the freeloaders. And we all hate freeloaders. Even the models directly rewarding them with free shows.
SarahTime
09-19-2014, 05:34 PM
Exactly. Most men aren't going to pass up a free porn show. I am more annoyed that Streamate allows it and didn't put any set rate for gold shows. They would have been doing everyone a favor if they made gold shows a buck a minute minimum. I think some of these performers charge low rates and give stuff away because the gold customers overall are becoming cheaper and cheaper. They expect video's and pictures in gold shows. They ask for nudity before the show starts. Gold shows created a horrible change and customers and no one can dispute that because the traffic for the site has fallen 50 percent since they started. We lost a lot of great customers and they were replaced with freeloaders.
How many of us were on SM prior to gold shows? Man......... THOSE were the days. Like, insane money.
And yah I realize there is still lots of money to be made on the site.... tons.... but take that, and like multiply it by..... a lot more lol :)
Pretty much what SaraTime said. I'm not hating on her.
Sure. If you stop doing that stuff in cheap gold shows and start charging what it's worth. Yes. You might have to wait a little longer for a show. No. You don't have to charge 9.99.
Like I said in my post. It's all good. I don't think what she does is affecting my room. Hell, there's 1,500 models on and 3/4 of them are better than me imo.
I do think at least a few dollars for a 20 min show would be good. If they can't afford that they weren't springing for a buck either.But 0 gold shows isn't converting freeloaders. They're just waiting on the next free show.
Really it's a vicious cycle. The gold shows are great to keep you from being bored. But I feel imo that once you stop doing them now you have to readjust your customers to regular shows. A gold show should be a treat. Some guys that might like you will get to watch that can't afford your rates. Some guys that normally pay for you get a break for a minute. But that's me.
Ok. Nothing to see here. Moving along. Back to the regularly programmed camming sucks thread.
JaneBurgess
09-19-2014, 06:32 PM
They should have left the site the way it was. People paid, they didn't have a million glitches, the customers were awesome, the money flowed, etc. The MFC motto only seems to work for MFC. Every site I've seen try to become like them fails badly.
There is money to still be made but not as much and frankly not sure if it's worth it anymore. Nothing against performers that do gold shows but I dont want to be half naked in free chat, giving away 30 video's, dealing with those begging dipshits. I do other cam sites now and they don't act like that on there.
How many of us were on SM prior to gold shows? Man......... THOSE were the days. Like, insane money.
And yah I realize there is still lots of money to be made on the site.... tons.... but take that, and like multiply it by..... a lot more lol :)
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 06:52 PM
Agreed.
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 06:59 PM
I totally think she's awesome too......... I just don't get the "$0 gold show" mentality.... especially when most of the time, it doesn't pan out where they reach goals higher than they could if they charged. I will admit, I've spent time watching countdowns of $0 shows and MOST of the time, they end up ditching the idea and charging. Why not just be like, okay this clearly doesn't work, and charge from the get go?
I realize her customers probably are not my customers... however, when a free show is going on, guys are going to watch even if it might not usually be their cup of tea. It's free... they don't have to pay a thing... why not watch?
I always notice a big decline in traffic with a $0 show going on. It's weird.... people stopped doing them for a while there, suddenly it's becoming a "thing" again.
And just to add, the problem with $0 shows is that is heavily reinforces that freeloader mentality that we all seem to hate so much. Am I directly missing out on money due to $0 shows? Maybe, maybe not... but one thing is for sure it's not doing anyone any good, even the models doing them, in the long run, they are not a good thing for the model either. A huge majority of the guys in the show are not paying. A select few, probably hard core regs and fans contribute the most. Sure a random guy might throw in a measley buck. But all it's doing is reinforcing the freeloaders. And we all hate freeloaders. Even the models directly rewarding them with free shows.
I agree with this 100%. It's everything said here plus knowing some of my highest paying regulars no longer pay for private shows and when they do they aren't spending half as much as they used to. They used to save up for them. "I can't afford you right now sweetie but I will be back next week, here's a tip for you to remember me by until then". Those days are over. Yes, it still happens on occasion but not like it used to. I am heartbroken that SM has become a token based freeloader site. It's a shame it can't retain it's own personality. Isn't that what we get paid for? Our personality? Oh wait..
And let me make this clear. I'm not hating on her as a person. I'm hate what she does as a bad business decision.
JaneBurgess
09-19-2014, 06:59 PM
Me too. She's always been nice to me. I kinda want to see that show because I can't imagine three dildo's for anal. That has to be huge for the kink/fetish lovers
I think she is awesome.
Airrrie2
09-19-2014, 07:06 PM
Pretty much what SaraTime said. I'm not hating on her.
Sure. If you stop doing that stuff in cheap gold shows and start charging what it's worth. Yes. You might have to wait a little longer for a show. No. You don't have to charge 9.99.
Like I said in my post. It's all good. I don't think what she does is affecting my room. Hell, there's 1,500 models on and 3/4 of them are better than me imo.
I do think at least a few dollars for a 20 min show would be good. If they can't afford that they weren't springing for a buck either.But 0 gold shows isn't converting freeloaders. They're just waiting on the next free show.
Really it's a vicious cycle. The gold shows are great to keep you from being bored. But I feel imo that once you stop doing them now you have to readjust your customers to regular shows. A gold show should be a treat. Some guys that might like you will get to watch that can't afford your rates. Some guys that normally pay for you get a break for a minute. But that's me.
This. There are sooooo many guys on the site who don't even have working credit cards. Then there's the 15 year olds who stole daddy's card and can't spend. Then there's the guys who stopped buying private shows because they get all that and more for pennies on the dollar and if they don't have pennies on the dollar that day then they get a free pass. It does trickle over. On the days she's not on, these assholes come to my chatroom with their dick in their hand and start trying to cyber me in guest chat along with the, "pls bb let a nip slip" and "can I see your ass bb". I'm tired of them beating off in my guest chat. Fucking pay for something!
audritwo
09-19-2014, 07:10 PM
Me too. She's always been nice to me. I kinda want to see that show because I can't imagine three dildo's for anal. That has to be huge for the kink/fetish lovers
Not gonna lie, I joined in. It's pretty fucking wild and awesome.
Blovely
09-19-2014, 07:12 PM
These other models are not gonna change up their shows just because you're ranting about them on a forum. They don't care.
Totally agree.
They should have left the site the way it was.
To this day I still don't understand why they tried to fix something that wasn't broken. The whole culture of the site has changed imo. Before gold shows I don't remember guys coming in and sitting there like creepers. Back then I never had to try so hard to get people to talk. These days I will say "hi hru?" over the mic, won't get a response. Then I'll type "Hi hru?" still nothing and then I have to kick them out because I don't like being ignored. These days it's like I have to sometimes threaten guys to go pvt. The other day I was like "Do I have to put a gun to your guys head for you to pvt?" and you know what someone went pvt. I don't even know how many times I said "who's ready to jerk their cock for me?", "who's ready to have some fun?", etc before I made that threat. It shouldn't be that hard to get a pvt.
loveshooks
09-19-2014, 07:14 PM
just wanna make something clear. I get that this thread is for venting but there will be no attacking of other models here. Beyond being pointless (and pretty pathetic) it's not conducive to sw and camming connection being a safe space for all cam chicas who wish to participate. Those who wanna vent feel free to do so, leave your peers out of it though. Ultimately no one is responsible for our earnings except us and it's not fair to target others in the process of that venting.
Never understood why some peeps in a bad mood want to spread it around. Do some yoga or kenpo or something.
Him: You ready for pvt?
Me: what do you want me to do in pvt?
Him: Can we do roleplay?
Me: what kind of roleplay?
Him: What's your favorite?
Me: What kind are you into?
Him: All kinds
Me: Which one do you want to do today?
Him: Can you be my neighbor?
Me: Sure!
Him: Can I peep in your window and you catch me and you like it?
Me: Of course!
Him: Can you tell me I'm a filthy pervert and I don't deserve to jerk to you.
Me: Ok, let's go play
Him: Can we do it with no condom?
Me: I'm ready when you are.
Him: Is it ok if I have a small penis?
Me: Of course.
Him: It's not circumcised either.
Me: I love those!
Him: I'm wearing a bra.
Me: show me in private
Him: Undies too
Me: what color?
Him: Red
me: I bet they look great!
Him: Are you ready to pvt?
Me: yes
Then one of several things happens:
A.) Leaves
B.) Comes in and says something off script, such as I'm ready for my diaper change.
C.) asks for a gold show since he's low on funds
D.) continues on in depth about his fantasy the whole time jerking in free chat- then leaves ( I don't encourage this either)
E.) comes in FUCK PUSSY NOW, FINGER ASSHOLE
AngelMari
09-19-2014, 07:48 PM
I think I know who you're talking about... she's a member here and does very well for herself....... Since you can't do that (and most ppl cant) I'm guessing the customers she caters to aren't the same customers you cater too.
Different hustles for different people.
Was thinking the same thing, she seems nice enough on cam...engaging and smiley. It works for me because I don't do anal, what I provide is a whole different animal. I say live and let live, I'm doing my own thing.
audritwo
09-19-2014, 08:07 PM
Was thinking the same thing, she seems nice enough on cam...engaging and smiley. It works for me because I don't do anal, what I provide is a whole different animal. I say live and let live, I'm doing my own thing.
Exactly! Live mas!
SarahTime
09-19-2014, 08:19 PM
Me too. She's always been nice to me. I kinda want to see that show because I can't imagine three dildo's for anal. That has to be huge for the kink/fetish lovers
I learned my lesson on being curious about extreme shows after I decided to join a prolapse show one day because a friend said I would never believe it.............. my eyes. My poor, poor eyes.
I don't imagine triple anal would be nearly as traumatizing to me but yah.... I just don't let myself get curious anymore because I am quite easily shocked! LOL
SarahTime
09-19-2014, 08:28 PM
just wanna make something clear. I get that this thread is for venting but there will be no attacking of other models here. Beyond being pointless (and pretty pathetic) it's not conducive to sw and camming connection being a safe space for all cam chicas who wish to participate. Those who wanna vent feel free to do so, leave your peers out of it though. Ultimately no one is responsible for our earnings except us and it's not fair to target others in the process of that venting.
Never understood why some peeps in a bad mood want to spread it around. Do some yoga or kenpo or something.
Sorry..... I guess kind of my fault because I said what type of show the free $0 show was. I only pointed out the type of show because, I guess it seems that much more of a bad business idea to give away rare extreme shows like that. Seems like you would be able to charge A LOT for those kind of shows, rather than giving them away.
I didn't mean to bring any negativity to the particular model, I do think she is awesome and sweet. It was just meant to be a "what in the world are these sweet and awesome girls thinking" type of vent. :-/
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-19-2014, 08:45 PM
I just googled prolapse. I didn't know what it was. :O I really wish I hadn't
I learned my lesson on being curious about extreme shows after I decided to join a prolapse show one day because a friend said I would never believe it.............. my eyes. My poor, poor eyes.
I don't imagine triple anal would be nearly as traumatizing to me but yah.... I just don't let myself get curious anymore because I am quite easily shocked! LOL
loveshooks
09-19-2014, 08:45 PM
no worries Sarah, your posts weren't the uber-problematic ones (I edited those).
but yeah, to everyone though, going forward though it would be cool if this thread was venting without identifiable targets, out of respect to our peers who are members here as well as those who aren't. not just even out of respect but cuz...
what I provide is a whole different animal. I say live and let live, I'm doing my own thing.
^^^
kortneykay
09-19-2014, 11:40 PM
I get that sites are going downhill but I won't put that 100% on gold/free shows. I have 3 websites in mind that I first joined back in 08' or so. Niteflirt, IML, and Allbbwcams. Each and every one of those sites were bringing in big money for me and everyone else and each one now has fallen.
I remember logging into NF and having back to back cam shows as well as IML and ABBWC. I mean there were some freeloaders on the free chat sites but most of the time you were in and out of pvts anyway and didn't mind it. I remember IML having 80-300 guys in my room and again, back to back pvts. None of them have the gold show mentality going on accept IML just added a knock off one about a month ago. NF went downhill, ALLBBWC went downhill, and IML did as well. All three of these sites today take ages to get calls/shows. They are there but hours can go by before any money has been made when that was never the case before. I believe we can blame all of that on pirating, tube sites and lack of proper marketing. I suppose you can consider pirating to be free just like $0 GS but I still make decent money. However I do agree that since 08' shit has gone way downhill in our industry. There were always girls giving things away back then and none of that ever affected me so there has to be other factors to explain why it's the way it is today.
JaneBurgess
09-20-2014, 12:03 AM
You nailed it. Pirating and tubes sites are a big chunk of the issue. So many customers feel entitled to free everything. I've had guys say why pay when they can go wank to free porn. That mentality needs to change or all these sites will be doomed, it's just a matter of time.
It's kinda funny that LJ doesn't have any free nudity and they are the largest grossing cam site. Perhaps that old school mentality is what still works for customers willing to spend money.
I get that sites are going downhill but I won't put that 100% on gold/free shows. I have 3 websites in mind that I first joined back in 08' or so. Niteflirt, IML, and Allbbwcams. Each and every one of those sites were bringing in big money for me and everyone else and each one now has fallen.
I remember logging into NF and having back to back cam shows as well as IML and ABBWC. I mean there were some freeloaders on the free chat sites but most of the time you were in and out of pvts anyway and didn't mind it. I remember IML having 80-300 guys in my room and again, back to back pvts. None of them have the gold show mentality going on accept IML just added a knock off one about a month ago. NF went downhill, ALLBBWC went downhill, and IML did as well. All three of these sites today take ages to get calls/shows. They are there but hours can go by before any money has been made when that was never the case before. I believe we can blame all of that on pirating, tube sites and lack of proper marketing. I suppose you can consider pirating to be free just like $0 GS but I still make decent money. However I do agree that since 08' shit has gone way downhill in our industry. There were always girls giving things away back then and none of that ever affected me so there has to be other factors to explain why it's the way it is today.
kortneykay
09-20-2014, 12:31 AM
I thought LJ was huge for freeloader central? I heard they were the walmart of freeloaders in spite of having high traffic. You know, I bet if there was a law against "free" porn and guys had no choice but to pay for play, we'd be in the money again. However I have a feeling that some guys would be running a seedy illegal underground cam ring and selling and giving out our shows for free, lol.
Pirater: Hey man, I got that big tit model you wanted on SM. This one is on the house but pass it around to your friends. Be careful, they're slamming down on free porn laws now.
Freeloader: Thanks, dude! I'll make sure to keep it under wraps. Do you have any prolapse vids? I'll pay top notch for those.
Pirater: I got you man, just let me know when you're ready. :D
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
09-20-2014, 04:13 AM
Ewww I can't even go on
SexxiLexxi
09-20-2014, 05:09 AM
Found out yesterday that the hubby was working today - A Saturday for me - so I was like alright, gonna cam as I haven't been on since the 10th.
Guess who comes along to ruin that this morning.....That's right, the monthly bitch! >.<
Needless to say, I'm in a pretty foul mood.
ZafinaX
09-20-2014, 06:12 AM
Oh my god I never been so bored these past couple of days with dead ass traffic. UGH. Guess I may have to get a vanilla job. I hate when shit like this happens. I understand a slow day every once in a while but this is too many days with dead traffic. Unacceptable.
Holly_xoxo
09-20-2014, 07:18 AM
They should have left the site the way it was. People paid, they didn't have a million glitches, the customers were awesome, the money flowed, etc. The MFC motto only seems to work for MFC. Every site I've seen try to become like them fails badly.
There is money to still be made but not as much and frankly not sure if it's worth it anymore. Nothing against performers that do gold shows but I dont want to be half naked in free chat, giving away 30 video's, dealing with those begging dipshits. I do other cam sites now and they don't act like that on there.
Gold shows seemed to take away any incentive to spend money. From the moment they started, many of the performers turned the countdown into a show itself. I remember seeing some topless and grinding around and bending over and sucking toys. Then they'd get mad when they wouldn't reach goal but why would the guys want them to reach goal when they can get off to that stuff.
I remember in 2010 when I started camming and I was checking out SM, there was a woman who described herself as a white trash whore and would talk about her mama being in the penitentiary for burning down some guys house and she'd sit in her free chat topless and suck on her dildo. She was really entertaining. Couple months later, she wasn't on anymore. I assumed it was because SM didn't allow that stuff at the time but they were only enforcing that rule on certain performers.
Now you can go in a room and see a woman topless with a g-string and camel toe. I just don't see the incentive to spend money. All the guy isn't seeing is the clit. Everything else is in all it's glory.
I still go on SM once in awhile but I think it's more for nostalgia and the hope that maybe this week, it'll be like the old days... :/
Vlodina
09-20-2014, 08:13 AM
On SM just now with bugger all traffic... :-(
CurvyWinona
09-20-2014, 08:20 AM
Yeaa.. so full of freeloaders this morning! :(