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Melonie, I don't wan to be corney, but I seriously love your posts! you are such an amazing smart person! hugs.
Melonie
10-16-2012, 01:33 PM
^^^ my observation doesn't have anything to do with my personal 'smartness' ( or lack thereof ). it's simply a study of history.
MissAdriana
10-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Ughh yesterday I made 18$ in 2 hours and today I made 20$ in 2 hours. (Only 1 customer for each night) I logged off early because I'd rather spend time taking pics or videos. This is my first week doing gold shows and I haven't even come close to making the goal. Maybe it's because I raised my rates this week? But I am going to get on this weekend which I never do and maybe start switching my shifts/different day off. I really need to start working weekends that seems to be where all the customers are at
CherryBomb69
10-18-2012, 05:21 PM
Tonight was very slow for me too - $67 dollars in four hours. I got slightly less than that yesterday in about the same time span. I know a lot of the SM customers are from the U.S, is it maybe slow because of the election stuff going on there at the moment?
MissAdriana
10-18-2012, 05:24 PM
Wow I completely forgot about the election stuff! How out of the loop am I lol I blame the election! Grr
Missbeth
10-24-2012, 08:35 PM
Tonight one and half hours... Let's just say I'd be better off slaving for minimum wage.
HollyStJohn
10-24-2012, 10:25 PM
Kiiiiiiiilll meeeeeeeeee..... T_________T Being tied to the back of a horse-drawn chariot and drug over a length of glass shards sounds less painful than getting back on cam right now.... I need to go do something fun before I start shooting rainclouds instead of rainbows out of my twat! >_<
Glasses
10-24-2012, 10:28 PM
Kiiiiiiiilll meeeeeeeeee..... T_________T Being tied to the back of a horse-drawn chariot and drug over a length of glass shards sounds less painful than getting back on cam right now.... I need to go do something fun before I start shooting rainclouds instead of rainbows out of my twat! >_<
Dun tell me, you're not looking forward meeting these:
:D
32053
Cam_Model_Jess
10-24-2012, 10:43 PM
^OMG I totally had the 40-year old version of that gif doing c2c with me last week.
And a dude who was a combination of these two guys:
http://www.mindspring.com/~nmint/ChainedNipplesPulling.JPG
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00486/Music_10-1_jpg_486083t.jpg
but uglier and with greasier hair
Orchidina
10-24-2012, 11:20 PM
^OMG I totally had the 40-year old version of that gif doing c2c with me last week.
And a dude who was a combination of these two guys:
http://www.mindspring.com/~nmint/ChainedNipplesPulling.JPG
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/dynamic/00486/Music_10-1_jpg_486083t.jpg
but uglier and with greasier hair
i'm sorry. i'm so sorry. :/
HollyStJohn
10-25-2012, 04:24 AM
Dun tell me, you're not looking forward meeting these:
:D
32053
XD Amusingly, that's about what I looked like when someone with one hell of a tasty-looking cock took me for a nice long private c2c show! I love how patience pays off so amazingly well in this industry!
Missbeth
10-25-2012, 05:13 PM
XD Amusingly, that's about what I looked like when someone with one hell of a tasty-looking cock took me for a nice long private c2c show! I love how patience pays off so amazingly well in this industry!
I had the most attractive guy tonight...Im like why are you on here.....
LaurenAus
10-29-2012, 03:50 PM
omg...is my face smeared with poo? I've had 50 guys come in and out of chat on AW and no real privates. One guy confirmed my cam was working great. OYYY
blt3790
10-30-2012, 08:34 AM
It's completely baffling on sm now... Last week was horrible, the traffic was nonexistent. For some reason, though I am consistently on page one, I was lucky to get on page 5... There were girls who had less than 3 stars ahead of me. Fast forward to this week and I made 12 bucks in 2 days. The entire reason I'm doing this job is because I love doing the shows and can set my own hours. Being in college, you gotta make the money somehow. Does anyone else notice a crap ton of jumpers? You can't form an opinion about someone in less than a second, there's got to be a glitch in the system. I'm thinking about other sites... SM support needs to get their shit together and read what we write them, they treat their custies better than their models... I haven't even been told my rates of 3.99/4.99 a minute are too high and I'm streaming in HD and back to page 1... I really don't understand... It's very disheartening.
Missbeth
10-30-2012, 09:42 AM
It's completely baffling on sm now... Last week was horrible, the traffic was nonexistent. For some reason, though I am consistently on page one, I was lucky to get on page 5... There were girls who had less than 3 stars ahead of me. Fast forward to this week and I made 12 bucks in 2 days. The entire reason I'm doing this job is because I love doing the shows and can set my own hours. Being in college, you gotta make the money somehow. Does anyone else notice a crap ton of jumpers? You can't form an opinion about someone in less than a second, there's got to be a glitch in the system. I'm thinking about other sites... SM support needs to get their shit together and read what we write them, they treat their custies better than their models... I haven't even been told my rates of 3.99/4.99 a minute are too high and I'm streaming in HD and back to page 1... I really don't understand... It's very disheartening.
First of all your rates are not too high....those same guys would be complaining if you're rates were $0.99/$1.99....If they complain my prices are too I just tell them to go watch FREE porn because ya know it is free....
Over the past two weeks I have also noticed a huge inconsistency in my earnings like $12 one day $200 the next for spending the same amount of time on cam, it is the nature of the business....sort of which im okay with as long as I have more $200 days then $12 ones...
Just keep your head up and as long as you maintain your good placement you should be fine...
Good luck :)
blt3790
10-30-2012, 10:19 AM
Some days I don't even get privates or exclusives, I spend it all in free chat. I spent a half hour with someone in free yesterday and when I asked him if he would like to do a show, he logged off. How can you make 200 in a day? I'm lucky if I make 50... Of course, I've been doing this for less than 4 months. But I'm starting to get nervous about paying bills... I'm also wondering if it would help if I was made out of silicone in a certain area... There are alot of people with fetishes that come into my room. I'm a Domme/Mistress when I'm in dungeons and try to use that on there. I'm always baffled and amused by how specific they are... I had a guy rate me one star a few months ago. Not because he did not enjoy the show, but because " Ur boots aren't black enuff bb"
Men...
Thanks for the affirmation that the rates aren't too high. I'm just wondering why sm lets a credit card be the determining factor in joining... I also wish people would tell us if they can't see us. i'd say I get one or 2 who tell me if they're having issues.
And that encoder sucks balls... Has anyone had the TV thing work for them? I'd opt in, but people don't put into my GOLD shows. I'm lucky to get one person to pledge. You'd think offering them control of the show as well as pictures would be enough incentive. I had a 5 dollar goal and noone put in...
How can sm advertise on free sites and then expect the people to PAY? Where's the logic?
CourtneyRaine
10-30-2012, 12:09 PM
Some days I don't even get privates or exclusives, I spend it all in free chat. I spent a half hour with someone in free yesterday and when I asked him if he would like to do a show, he logged off.
Two things I see here: SM might not be the site for you. Everyone has slow days but if there are multiple days when you make $0 and you need to pay your bills, I'd suggest changing something. Try a new site, try different hours on SM when there are less girls in your niche online (less competition), try to change your hustle.
Speaking of, why would you give your attention to someone in free chat for half an hour without trying to close the sale at some point before that? It sounds like you are giving your free chat viewers way too much attention, which could be contributing to why they are not taking you private. During those 30 minutes there could have been other members come in and out of your room who may have wanted to take you exclusive but saw that you were spending all this attention on the other guy and didn't want to interrupt you. I used to be much more talkative on cam and guys would tell me that they would have taken me private sooner but they didn't want to ruin my conversation. To me I think, ruin it! I don't care! Conversation means nothing to me! I just want to do privates and don't want to sit here in silence while I'm waiting! But guys see it differently.
If you set a $5 gold show goal and no one put in, there is something wrong. Seriously wrong. I am not saying there is something wrong with *you* so please don't think that I am criticizing you. I am speaking from my own experience. I started having the same problems on SM with my placement dropping and barely making any money once my computer could no longer handle the encoder. Now I'm working on other sites and not only am I so much happier but my money is way up.
blt3790
10-30-2012, 12:33 PM
I get tipped with GOLD and other such things... Just seems like there are a great deal of jumpers in my room. Not even staying for a split second... Out of curiosity Courtney, might I message you privately? Since you and I are having similar issues, perhaps you could suggest a few sites?
I try not to be rude to people, if they want to talk, I guess I just don't want to come across as pushy and scare them off. I guess trying to find a happy medium would be something to strive for...
Missbeth
10-30-2012, 07:04 PM
Some days I don't even get privates or exclusives, I spend it all in free chat. I spent a half hour with someone in free yesterday and when I asked him if he would like to do a show, he logged off. How can you make 200 in a day? I'm lucky if I make 50... Of course, I've been doing this for less than 4 months. But I'm starting to get nervous about paying bills... I'm also wondering if it would help if I was made out of silicone in a certain area... There are alot of people with fetishes that come into my room. I'm a Domme/Mistress when I'm in dungeons and try to use that on there. I'm always baffled and amused by how specific they are... I had a guy rate me one star a few months ago. Not because he did not enjoy the show, but because " Ur boots aren't black enuff bb"
Men...
Thanks for the affirmation that the rates aren't too high. I'm just wondering why sm lets a credit card be the determining factor in joining... I also wish people would tell us if they can't see us. i'd say I get one or 2 who tell me if they're having issues.
And that encoder sucks balls... Has anyone had the TV thing work for them? I'd opt in, but people don't put into my GOLD shows. I'm lucky to get one person to pledge. You'd think offering them control of the show as well as pictures would be enough incentive. I had a 5 dollar goal and noone put in...
How can sm advertise on free sites and then expect the people to PAY? Where's the logic?
Don't pay too much attention to people in free chat. What I've found is if I start talking to them and ignore them they'll either a) leave the room or b) go private, the ones that leave the room probably weren't going to take me private anyways. No dirty chat in free, if they start I tell them I only Dirty talk in private. No individual attention in free chat, if they are like sorry bb no sound I tell them "no individual attention in free chat sorry" sometimes they go private....but I'm almost certainly sure guys say no sounds BB, my speakers aren't working because they just want attention for FREE. If they ask to see a preview for private I tell them me laying down in free chat is their preview....
I'm pretty sure you get it, don't give them anything for free....if you do they have no reason to pay for it, you just have to find your balance of bitchy and tricky so they don't catch on and still get thier private requests.
I had a huge problem today with my Internet...I had ppl popping in and out and in and out of my room and no one told me they couldn't see me for like 15 minutes..out of like 100 guys I was like wow thanks.
As far as the tv gold shows...I'd opt in, I'm pretty sure you meet goal either way rather ppl put in or not.
CummingCouple
11-01-2012, 06:26 PM
Members are saying our cam is blue and i look at other hosts and their cams are also blue. IL is definitely having issues... that's why camming sucks right now. The storm killed people and our wallets.
volatileghost
11-01-2012, 06:31 PM
What do you mean, blue??
StephanieXS
11-01-2012, 11:49 PM
Is anyone else having issues with Cams.com tonight? In the middle of me working my free chat was dead, so I moved to nude, nude chat was dead, moved to tipping, tipping was dead. And by dead I mean there was 0 people in my room, not even guests. Then I went to the main page and it said I was in Private Chat. I wasn't. So I closed out of my broadcaster and it still says I'm broadcasting and now it won't let me log in.
HALP!!
EDIT: Okay, anyone else that's on Cams.com, heads up, site crashed. They can't even access it. I was going to delete the thread but figured I'd leave it in case anyone else had problems.
anonymous camgirl
11-02-2012, 09:47 AM
I think Hurricane Sandy has had a huge effect on our income.. I could be wrong.. but I am doing VERY poorly myself this week.. Sunday which is usually a fabulous day.. I hardly made anything.. Halloween sucked to.. and I do very well if i work the Holidays.. the last halloween i made 300 bucks on.. so i dunno.. which is good for me..LOL
Ughh yesterday I made 18$ in 2 hours and today I made 20$ in 2 hours. (Only 1 customer for each night) I logged off early because I'd rather spend time taking pics or videos. This is my first week doing gold shows and I haven't even come close to making the goal. Maybe it's because I raised my rates this week? But I am going to get on this weekend which I never do and maybe start switching my shifts/different day off. I really need to start working weekends that seems to be where all the customers are at
CourtneyRaine
11-02-2012, 11:59 AM
Sandy didn't seem to impact me in the slightest, thank Goodness. I think it will affect you however you think it will affect you. I made less last weekend than I normally do on weekends, but that's only because *I* put in less hours; my hourly was still the same. Monday kicked ass for me, my hourly was higher than ever during the worst part of the storm. I was camming in the evening and was actually reading news reports about it to my free chat. It was awful but you know how I spun it? "Well, it's really bad out there. I guess we're stuck in here together, we might as well get comfortable, take some clothes off, and have some cuddle time. I love cuddling during storms. It's so romantic and it really puts me in the mood!" Bam. Had some amazing long shows from guys who just wanted a distraction. I didn't work Tuesday because my computer crashed, decided to get drunk and didn't work on Halloween, but yesterday freaking rocked, it was my third highest earnings in a day ever. Evening was slow but I killed it in the morning/afternoon. I know girls are saying guys are missing work so they're not going to buy shows. I see it as, guys are home from work, bored our of their minds, some people do still have power even though their jobs are still closed (like a lot of my rl friends in nyc). East coast guys who were affected are going to be sitting on their computer with nothing to do and I am going to be there to entertain them. In private chat. And cam sites are international, our customer base does not consist solely of guys who were caught in the storm. Sandy should only affect you if you let it affect you.
Your mindset really has so much to do with your earnings.
kittykrane
11-02-2012, 12:13 PM
I've noticed it's a little slower since the hurricane. Lots of Europeans in my room...
AliceFun
11-02-2012, 06:49 PM
Yes, i was wondering myself why soo many non native english speakers in my room lately but they dont buy shows; my traffic/ income is very slow these days hmmm
StephanieXS
11-03-2012, 12:27 AM
Two crappy nights in a row... Last night, cams.com crashed. Tonight, Flash crashes while I'm discussing going private with a guy. Starting this pay period off poorly... *sad face*
desireafterdark
11-03-2012, 12:45 AM
all night on cam and only made $28. one private for under 2 minutes that paid $1.50. sadface.
naughtycamgirl
11-03-2012, 03:28 PM
What is happening to SM ? I made 40$ in 2hours and half, got disconnected from a long exclusive, then sometimes I hear the sound of someone entering or leaving my room but I don't see anyone, guys keep going in and out, and most of them are freeloaders ahhh
volatileghost
11-03-2012, 03:35 PM
Agreed, SM has been baddd lately :( I also got disconnected from pvts and exls... its like, WTF?
Cam_Model_Jess
11-03-2012, 03:44 PM
What is happening to SM ? I made 40$ in 2hours and half, got disconnected from a long exclusive, then sometimes I hear the sound of someone entering or leaving my room but I don't see anyone, guys keep going in and out, and most of them are freeloaders ahhh
I think there's an issue with using the iPad on the site. I'll send you a PM about it.
Cam_Model_Jess
11-03-2012, 03:53 PM
IDk girls, I made $100 over goal this week. I have to admit that I took almost three whole days off, just working an hour here and there, and I switched up my hours. Sometimes it was SUPER DUPER slow, like slower than I've ever seen it. But I must've done pretty well, because there are weeks I can't make goal no matter how many hours I work. So I guess I'm gonna say it's just a strange week, but the earning potential was there.
volatileghost
11-03-2012, 04:10 PM
Eh, I made $65 in under 2 hours last night, but that's the best I've done all week. :/
ManyRoses
11-03-2012, 04:42 PM
Yesterday was great for me, got up to around $100 p/hr for large chunks of it..
But today was slooooooow. It really is a little bit hit or miss this week, but ah well.
Melonie
11-04-2012, 09:58 AM
after being reprimanded and having my previously posted response deleted, I'll try to very carefully rephrase a second response to the Hurricane Sandy comments ...
I've noticed it's a little slower since the hurricane. Lots of Europeans in my room...
I think Hurricane Sandy has had a huge effect on our income.. I could be wrong.. but I am doing VERY poorly myself this week.
One basic pre-requisite of webcam customers is electricity to run their computer and some sort of high speed internet access. Hurricane Sandy disrupted electric and internet service for something like 9 million Americans. Compared to the total US population, this amounts to something like 2.5%. But a 2.5% drop in US webcam customers would not have been noticeable. So some other factors must be at work.
Another basic pre-requisite of webcam customers is having 'discretionary' income left over to spend on something as non-essential as paid webcam streams. This translates into webcam customers needing to have incomes which are sufficiently high to allow them to pay for 'necessities' like food, utility bills, rent ( = mortgage payment + property taxes ), car loan payment + gasoline etc. and still have money left over. If you look at the US Census map of median US income levels, it's really obvious that the US eastern shore states most affected by Hurricane Sandy, i.e. Virginia, DC, Maryland, Delaware, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island etc. have median income levels that are sufficiently high to allow for a fair amount of 'discretionary' spending. Thus even though the residents of these states may only comprise 2.5% of Americans who temporarily lost power and internet service, they may very well comprise 25% of total US webcam customer spending.
A potential worry going forward will obviously be that webcam spending by these US customers may not come back as soon as their power and internet service are restored. Obviously huge numbers of residents of these states haven't been able to go to work since Hurricane Sandy hit. While this may improve over the course of the next week, for a fact there are literally tens of thousands of businesses / workplaces which simply aren't there anymore. And there will be literally hundreds of thousands of 'customers' who aren't there anymore either ( i.e. cancelling the NY Marathon alone reportedly cost the greater NY area over 300 million dollars in lost 'sales' during this weekend alone ). So you've got a whole lot of shrinking or disappearing paychecks.
From another standpoint, it is extremely doubtful that insurance coverage is going to pay 100% of the costs of repairing / rebuilding damaged homes and businesses, let alone paying 100% of the cost of replacing destroyed and/or damaged cars, appliances, computers and other personal items. This will mean that, even for Hurricane Sandy affected residents who still have a place of work to go to, and who still have an income level that is high enough to allow for a significant amount of 'discretionary' spending after necessary expenses are paid for, they will be forced to allocate a good portion of that 'discretionary' spending money towards the unreimbursed costs of replacing / repairing their Hurricane Sandy caused personal and business losses.
Based on the economic impact of 9/11 recovery, it's likely to take many, many months for things to start returning to financial 'normal' in those areas badly affected by Hurricane Sandy.
anonymous camgirl
11-04-2012, 10:04 AM
Well most of my customers must be east coasters.. cuz i do see a huge drop!.. so that is also something you can take into account.. the variables of how much and from where does each individual cam girl's customers come from.
after being reprimanded and having my previously posted response deleted, I'll try to very carefully rephrase a second response to the Hurricane Sandy comments ...
One basic pre-requisite of webcam customers is electricity to run their computer and some sort of high speed internet access. Hurricane Sandy disrupted electric and internet service for something like 9 million Americans. Compared to the total US population, this amounts to something like 2.5%. But a 2.5% drop in US webcam customers would not have been noticeable. So some other factors must be at work.
Another basic pre-requisite of webcam customers is having 'discretionary' income left over to spend on something as non-essential as paid webcam streams. This translates into webcam customers needing to have incomes which are sufficiently high to allow them to pay for 'necessities' like food, utility bills, rent ( = mortgage payment + property taxes ), car loan payment + gasoline etc. and still have money left over. If you look at the US Census map of median US income levels, it's really obvious that the US eastern shore states most affected by Hurricane Sandy, i.e. Virginia, DC, Maryland, New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Rhode Island etc. have median income levels that are sufficiently high to allow for a fair amount of 'discretionary' spending. Thus even though the residents of these states may only comprise 2.5% of Americans who temporarily lost power and internet service, they may very well comprise 25% of total US webcam customer spending.
Melonie
11-04-2012, 10:42 AM
so that is also something you can take into account.. the variables of how much and from where does each individual cam girl's customers come from.
Indeed, 'knowledge is power'. And especially so if it allows camgirls to focus their efforts in more effective ways. At the moment, that could mean shifting their camming hours 3 hours ahead to take greater advantage of the other concentration of US customers with high median incomes thus lots of 'discretionary' spending dollars i.e. California, Oregon, Washington, the Dakotas etc., or to shift their camming hours 6 hours back to take advantage of the high median incomes of most Western European countries.
Unfortunately, there is a huge 'joker in the deck' in trying to draw direct conclusions regarding median income levels. The reason is age demographics. Or put another way, and with certain conspicuous exceptions, the probability of guys 55 and older being major webcam spenders is statistically fairly low. This is why a state like Florida probably provides far fewer total paid webcam dollars than a state like New Jersey, even though the median income levels aren't too different. What IS different is the geriatric population of Florida being far more interested in golfing or sitting on the back porch and pinching retirement pennies with $1 million in their retirement fund, than in spending money on adult webcam streams.
anonymous camgirl
11-04-2012, 10:50 AM
That's funny! I am from Florida.. one of the things I just thought of also.. often times guys like to pick cam girls that live close by or in neighboring states.. to cam with thinking that they can meet some day.. so that could be another reason of the drop in income.
Melonie
11-04-2012, 11:26 AM
^^^ possibly. But before any guy spends money on any camgirl's paid webcam stream, he first has to have electric service and a working high speed internet connection, second he has to have sufficient income to allow him to spend 'discretionary' dollars on the camgirl's paid webcam stream AFTER first paying for 'necessities', and third he needs to still be producing enough testosterone to have a serious interest in adult webcam.
As you can see from this graph, the latter appears to be a growing long term problem ...
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user5/imageroot/2012/10-2/Jobs-%20old%20vs%20young%20detail_0.jpg
... which shows that some 4 million jobs have been added for Americans aged 55 and older, while those age 54 and under have LOST more than 2.5 million jobs ... and with the vast majority of those lost jobs hitting the 25-54 age group that comprises the demographic core of webcam customers.
(note to moderator - I was very careful to post a graph which has NOT been posted in any other forum in order to try and avoid yet another technicality based reprimand and deletion )
Glamourmilf
11-04-2012, 06:17 PM
32169And then there is the upcoming presidential election on Tuesday.
Incantatious
11-04-2012, 06:19 PM
LMAO Glamourmilf!!!
That picture is pretty damn amazing! Bahaha! XD
caitir
11-06-2012, 02:24 PM
Not sure if this is where I should post this... tell me, if it's not.
But, Does anyone know if the election stuff tonight will make things slow/fast for camming? Did anyone on here work during the last election, and was it busy?
I'm debating working tonight- my bf says that he would go on cam sites tonight because "there will be nothing else to watch", but I figured that most people would actually be watching the stuff...
What do you guys think?
volatileghost
11-06-2012, 02:31 PM
Spent a couple hrs on SM yesterday -- More often than not, I had ZERO people in my room, but placed on the first page? WTF. Makes me not even want to try. Soo frustrating...
italianstarcamgirl
11-06-2012, 02:44 PM
I know last night was slower than normal for me. Do I dare cam tonight with the election
anonymous camgirl
11-06-2012, 02:51 PM
LOL if you believe you believe!1 just kidding!.. I can't wait to see who will win.. good or bad.. just can't wait to seal our fate!
I know last night was slower than normal for me. Do I dare cam tonight with the election
Smurfette
11-06-2012, 03:02 PM
Yesterday and today have been pretty slow... but then again I'm working in the afternoons. Perhaps I should try to work later in the evenings.
sammii
11-06-2012, 04:32 PM
I won't be working tonight because of the election. I worked yesterday, even though I usually take Mondays off ... it started off really slow, but ended up being my second highest earning night on SM.
Vela Valentine
11-06-2012, 04:35 PM
^ jealous. I'm wondering if maybe camming later tonight would be a good idea?
CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 04:58 PM
No idea if it will be slow or not due to the elections, as I was not camming 4 years ago. I'd love to cam tonight but I have a killer cold, can't talk, can't see straight, sinus headaches- I won't be logging on at all. That, my dears, is the only surefire way to make $0 :(
anonymous camgirl
11-06-2012, 05:14 PM
LOL if you believe you believe!1 just kidding!.. I can't wait to see who will win.. good or bad.. just can't wait to seal our fate!
I know last night was slower than normal for me. Do I dare cam tonight with the election