View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
Vela Valentine
11-06-2012, 08:18 PM
^ I agree, I hope once all this is over, stuff will go back to normal and there won't be so much flurry over it! Although I am scared of Mittens winning :(
Marina Starr
11-06-2012, 08:19 PM
I am getting ready to get on SM. How is it looking tonight?
italianstarcamgirl
11-06-2012, 08:34 PM
slow as shit - there are not alot of top models on though. I am taking a break and gonna get back on in a bit and see if it picks up.
ConnyLove
11-06-2012, 08:38 PM
Yes every single site is so slow and also I was thinking that many girls were taking the night off, but I was wrong. I am off to bed !
italianstarcamgirl
11-06-2012, 08:41 PM
I should mention that there is enough traffic to make money but its not booming by any means.
CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 09:26 PM
Also, loves, don't forget that guys just paid rent a few days ago. The beginning of the month is always a bit slower for me, just for that fact. I just know it will pick up soon, election or not. Don't be afraid to take a break if needed, but you hop right on there and take them dudes exclusive as soon as you can, okay?
CourtneyRaine
11-06-2012, 09:57 PM
@Marina, are you Viet? You're so pretty! I just want to give you all my money! You look Just Like this Viet girl I know, it's uncanny!
Marina Starr
11-06-2012, 09:59 PM
How do you know what I look like? Now I'm curious :)
PM me!
@Marina, are you Viet? You're so pretty! I just want to give you all my money! You look Just Like this Viet girl I know, it's uncanny!
Marina Starr
11-07-2012, 09:05 AM
I think the majority of the men must have wasted their money on beers so no money for cam girls? LOL
naughtycamgirl
11-07-2012, 10:32 AM
Yep, it seems they are all celebrating Obama's victory :)
I think the majority of the men must have wasted their money on beers so no money for cam girls? LOL
Marina Starr
11-07-2012, 10:36 AM
I can't be mad at them for that :)
Yep, it seems they are all celebrating Obama's victory :)
Pippi_Hicks
11-07-2012, 02:53 PM
I was hoping to console some sad republicans out of their money, but I think they were either drowning their sorrows somewhere else or most just called it a night and went to bed.
Plus I didn't sign on until late because I wanted to watch Obama's victory speech! I live in a swing state that went blue last night and it felt so good to see that happen.
Vela Valentine
11-07-2012, 02:56 PM
2.5 hours online last night for $40..... UGHHHHHH.
CourtneyRaine
11-07-2012, 03:20 PM
2.5 hours online last night for $40..... UGHHHHHH.
You know what I love? I love how $16/hour feels "bad" to us. I am the same way, I get so cranky when it's slow, but when I take a step back I remember how people earning minimum wage WISH they were me, and wish they were earning what we do. Don't feel so upset chickadee, we all have slow days but we also have awesome busy days, too :)
Orchidina
11-07-2012, 05:12 PM
i'm trying to keep a good outlook on things...but when the past two weeks checks have been bad and my "slow days" are more frequent now than the not slow ones...what then?
Incantatious
11-07-2012, 07:34 PM
Finally, just over $200ish for 2 hours work again... MFC may have officially over-taken SM as my main camming site from here on.
I worked 7 hours for $349 on SM yesterday. I miss being a $100 per hour girl!
Streamate has sucked so bad for me lately. I gave up completely on the encoder and worked myself silly for that $349.
But yes, I am still deeply thankful that I have a job where £218.39 GBP for 7 hours work is considered bad!!! Holy shit, if I had a regular job, I would be used to £49 GBP for 8 hours work a day.. Oh god.. yeah, I can never have a vanilla job.
italianstarcamgirl
11-07-2012, 08:30 PM
Good lord - and I thought last night was slow atleast I was able to make +goal - another shit night on SM.....sigh
Classy_Katy
11-08-2012, 08:38 AM
I used to earn a lot more in my regular job than I do now...that's the cost of wanting to work from home and part time.
Blonde-Ambition
11-08-2012, 08:38 AM
this week has been soooooooooooooo slow on every site! i can't handle it! really stressing me out :(
what is going on!?
TheBrownFox
11-08-2012, 09:52 AM
Holy shit, if I had a regular job, I would be used to £49 GBP for 8 hours work a day.. Oh god.. yeah, I can never have a vanilla job.
Yeah, with just about every job I've had, I got an hourly wage of less than $8. I worked at a daycare center that paid $7.50/hr. and required you do occasional "volunteer" work. You had to wear the company t-shirt on Monday - Thursday, and on Friday you could wear jeans IF you paid $1. If you were a few minutes late to work, you had to do dishes when the kids' lunch was over...lol.
I worked at a daycare in New York where I was told I had to remove my nose stud. I ended up quitting...lol.
The kids were the best part about those jobs, but yeah, I can now say that it's nice to finally be able to make my own rules.
Pippi_Hicks
11-08-2012, 09:58 AM
this week has been soooooooooooooo slow on every site! i can't handle it! really stressing me out :(
what is going on!?
If you're referring to the lack of money from guys in the US, you can probably blame it on the election and first of the month bills (rent, etc.). Hopefully this weekend will be better.
Cam_Model_Jess
11-08-2012, 12:05 PM
I make 10x what I used to make when I was working part-time, and 4x what I made when I was working full-time. The most I ever made per hour was $13, and that was using a degree. Yeah, it sucks not having health insurance, but it's taught me the importance of self-care & resourcefulness. All in all, I am a lot happier now than I was before. When it's slow, I try to think of all the things I have to be grateful for. (After I finish complaining :) )
MissAdriana
11-08-2012, 01:55 PM
Last night on MFC I went an hour on there without 1 tip so I gave up. SM has been crap for me all week. I'm try again on SM tonight for another hour or so but if it doesn't pick up (didn't make a cent after 1hr so far) then I'll just do a video or something with my leftover time. Nice to know I'm not alone!
Smurfette
11-08-2012, 06:56 PM
Yeah Streamate is pretty damn slow this week. *remembers she still makes more per hour than in most professional careers* Oh okay, it's not that bad. :) Fuck real jobs yo
Marina Starr
11-08-2012, 06:58 PM
That's why I'm taking the rest of the week off.
Yeah Streamate is pretty damn slow this week. *remembers she still makes more per hour than in most professional careers* Oh okay, it's not that bad. :) Fuck real jobs yo
SarahTime
11-08-2012, 07:45 PM
I always try to remember that my "slow night" is most people's entire pay check for a week. That makes me feel grateful to have the ability to do this job.
It is hard to remember that though, when often times our bills are much higher than most peoples, it can be really frustrating. But it is good to try and remember this from time to time. It will pick up again soon! :)
sammii
11-08-2012, 09:41 PM
^ YES, OMG yes!! (lol, sorry, a little excited).
I work about 10-15 hours per week at a vanilla job. I don't need it by any means, but I work there because it's also my hobby (I work in skincare and cosmetics). And this paycheck for 2 weeks worth of work + commission was a little less than $300.00. So 30 hours for $300.00 or sometimes less (what I could earn in a day camming). I'm paid $8.00 per hour + 2% commission. If I didn't love it, I would have quit a long time ago ... when camming is a little slow I just think about how much worse it could be.
About the slowness ... September was fantastic for me, and so was the beginning of October. The end of October and the beginning of November have been only so-so for me and some days just plain slow, but I'm still able to pay my bills so I'm not complaining. I know it'll get better.
SarahTime
11-08-2012, 10:06 PM
^^ Seeeeee that's what I'm sayin! :)
I have found that my earnings/hourly avg hasn't dropped... but GETTING THERE is like..... ugh. It's taking lot more convincing to get the same goals than it was even just a month ago. I am doing more gold shows in the same time because I'm either not reaching the goal or I'm lowering the goal. So it's like double the work to get the same amount.
But, things are really tough for people at the moment. The holidays were actually pretty good for me last year so I'm hoping it will pick up again in a few weeks!
PrincessLuna
11-08-2012, 10:13 PM
I have found that my earnings/hourly avg hasn't dropped... but GETTING THERE is like..... ugh.
Oh god, THIS. Every time lately I think I'm doing just terrible. Everything's just so slow, guys aren't talking, whatever. But then the next day I plug my numbers into my spreadsheet and that's when I really see that my numbers haven't actually changed at.all. It's just more mentally frustrating now than it was before. But the next day when I see that my numbers are still there, I feel better.
CummingCouple
11-08-2012, 10:24 PM
After tech issues were solved on IL, we had the best pay period yet! But alas, it does not last for long.
StephanieXS
11-08-2012, 11:20 PM
Cams.com is acting up AGAIN! I had 3 privates all night and none of them lasted longer than 30 seconds. Or at least so I thought. It's looking like all 3 of them lasted 2-3 minutes but I wasn't notified of them until they left private. I was actually still receiving messages from others when this happened. I know it's not on my end because my internet is running great and so is my computer. UGH!!
And then I tried to work on Streammate for the first time to switch it up and... I don't understand it at all. I just wanna scream. :banghead:
Via Flaminia
11-09-2012, 12:30 AM
Tonight I was listening to a podcast of a camgirl interview. The topic of anal fisting came up. Bottom line from this camgirl: she does anal fisting and she knows fisting is illegal. Even the host of the show confirmed this on air, but she readily admitted she is signed up with a studio that is in tight w/a SM producer, and of course no one has said anything to her about it, etc etc etc.
Of course I know what would happen if I did anal fisting and someone decided to tattle. I guess it's just human nature, but after a frustrating month on cam I really didn't need to hear this. Believe me, I know these discrepancies exist no matter where a person works or what they do for a living. Yes, I know there are the hand-selected favorites on any cam site. They come & go as they please while I put in 40plus hrs a week to keep my placement up & go to bed exhausted every night (or morning, haha). I guess it was just having it slapped in my face that drove the point home.
I don't have anything in my life that I didn't work for myself - no one has given me anything! Still the truth sucks at times....disheartening.
I guess that's why I applied to a new cam site this week and also activated my c4s account...
Melonie
11-09-2012, 05:26 AM
Tonight I was listening to a podcast of a camgirl interview. The topic of anal fisting came up. Bottom line from this camgirl: she does anal fisting and she knows fisting is illegal. Even the host of the show confirmed this on air, but she readily admitted she is signed up with a studio that is in tight w/a SM producer, and of course no one has said anything to her about it, etc etc etc.
Of course I know what would happen if I did anal fisting and someone decided to tattle. I guess it's just human nature, but after a frustrating month on cam I really didn't need to hear this. Believe me, I know these discrepancies exist no matter where a person works or what they do for a living. Yes, I know there are the hand-selected favorites on any cam site. They come & go as they please while I put in 40plus hrs a week to keep my placement up & go to bed exhausted every night (or morning, haha). I guess it was just having it slapped in my face that drove the point home.
I don't have anything in my life that I didn't work for myself - no one has given me anything! Still the truth sucks at times....disheartening.
I guess that's why I applied to a new cam site this week and also activated my c4s account...
if you wouldn't mind, could you please elaborate ???
Via Flaminia
11-09-2012, 12:52 PM
Hi Melonie,
I must say first thank you for all of your great posts here - I owe you a lot. I have learned so much about this business from you.
As far as elaborating on the above: I can definitely see why my post caught your attention. Although my post was meant to deal mostly with my personal frustration, which is why I chose to put it in the "Camming Sucks Right Now" thread, it also addressed issues related to high traffic/high placement camgirls and how preferential treatment can and does factor in, even when a camgirl admits in a podcast to doing illegal things in cam shows on a regular basis. When she followed that up in the podcast with nuanced statements that *could* be interpreted as "I can do what I want since I am with ___ studio...so there!" (that was just a "for instance"), well..... I was triggered just a little bit. It doesn't mean I was mystified or not understanding what goes on every single day on SM. I was just set off, that's all.
Melonie, I really, really have to give you a big thank you because you helped me understand the realities of traffic, bandwidth, revenue and many, many other components that play a part in this business. I understand that people could read my post and their first reaction would be "That's life, get over it" or "Well, don't be mad at her, just find ways to do better yourself"... Well yes, I am painfully aware that life isn't fair. I am far from an entitled person. I am 41 years old and have seen plenty of workplace favoritism, cliques, etc. - too many to count over the years. Outrageous stuff. That didn't stop me from fighting for every little thing I have to show for in my life today. Maybe then it was good for me to hear this podcast, because it actually did push me harder to look for ways to increase my personal revenue. That was the lesson, I think.
As you can see, I am making an educated guess as far as how you wanted me to elaborate on the post above. Honestly, I was just pissed more than anything, that's all. I'm better today. :-)
Melonie
11-09-2012, 01:18 PM
I'm glad that i was able to help you in some small way. And thanks for elaborating.
When she followed that up in the podcast with nuanced statements that *could* be interpreted as "I can do what I want since I am with ___ studio...so there!"
This was indeed what I wanted to hear more details about.
funismymiddlename
11-09-2012, 02:20 PM
there's nothing worse than a slow cam day when your sick. I'm really thankful for my regulars though they're the only ones spending. I hope it gets better for everyone.
naughtycamgirl
11-09-2012, 03:14 PM
I get a lot of requests to do pissing show sometimes vomit show(or other illegal stuff) when I say it is against the TOS, these guys are like ohh No they all do it.
I don't think it is just a favoritisme for studio girls, but I think most of websites ''close an eye'' on what happen in private chat, not only because it brings them more money, but maybe they are just not very strict about their rules, I've seen many girls with their facebook, twitter names on the back (not just name, but facebook : xxxx) and they are still there, others show bellow waist nudity and they are still there too,
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Tonight I was listening to a podcast of a camgirl interview. The topic of anal fisting came up. Bottom line from this camgirl: she does anal fisting and she knows fisting is illegal. Even the host of the show confirmed this on air, but she readily admitted she is signed up with a studio that is in tight w/a SM producer, and of course no one has said anything to her about it, etc etc etc.
Of course I know what would happen if I did anal fisting and someone decided to tattle. I guess it's just human nature, but after a frustrating month on cam I really didn't need to hear this. Believe me, I know these discrepancies exist no matter where a person works or what they do for a living. Yes, I know there are the hand-selected favorites on any cam site. They come & go as they please while I put in 40plus hrs a week to keep my placement up & go to bed exhausted every night (or morning, haha). I guess it was just having it slapped in my face that drove the point home.
I don't have anything in my life that I didn't work for myself - no one has given me anything! Still the truth sucks at times....disheartening.
I guess that's why I applied to a new cam site this week and also activated my c4s account...
Missbeth
11-09-2012, 03:50 PM
I always try to remember that my "slow night" is most people's entire pay check for a week. That makes me feel grateful to have the ability to do this job.
It is hard to remember that though, when often times our bills are much higher than most peoples, it can be really frustrating. But it is good to try and remember this from time to time. It will pick up again soon! :)
This is my problem....if I make $200 in a day and it takes me longer than usual I will start freaking out thinking I've finally stopped making money camming....but then I'm like oh yeah if I was still in a restaraunt working my ass off I MAYBE would've made that all week.
I must say tho this week on SM has been horribly slow.
Also This week I noticed my pvts have been shorter, less people are talking and more people are hopping in and out of privates (even regs...who are now banned).
My average numbers are still there though they are on the lower end of average for me.
Also I've been noticing more requests for more extreme things(vomiting, fisting etc) maybe I've just been noticing it more or it has something to do with SMs current advertising campaigns?
Incantatious
11-09-2012, 06:43 PM
I thought the encoder and me were finally on good terms yesterday night... I cammed WITHOUT freaking iTUNES playing!!!
I was like "Oh fuck yeah, I'mma stream with my visuals cranked all the way up to the required 800 kbps tonight! Woo hoo! Fuck iTunes, man!"
So I did that very thing - for 10 minutes, and then - crash go my HD dreams. :P
Stayed on SM for half an hour and made $0. Went to MFC and made almost 4k tokens in a couple hours - praise be to the camming gods for saving my night from nightmarishness. Ugh. I need BT Infinity to get it's arse in gear and come knocking on my door with some sweet 19 mbps upload speed...
italianstarcamgirl
11-09-2012, 06:45 PM
I've been thinking of trying MFC's but I'm a bit intimidated by it plus I suck at token sites. I'm glad you are making that $$$ girl!
Incantatious
11-09-2012, 06:54 PM
Thank you so much mah bb!
MFC isn't all that difficult once you get the hang of how it BASICALLY works (lol, which I am still trying to figure out myself!) - I seem to make most of my $$$$ there from groups and privates. :) I pretty much treat it like SM... but I'm stingier in terms of how much flesh I expose (I am usually FULLY clothed in free chat), because I have usually ditched SM in a grumpy mood for it, bahaha!
TheBrownFox
11-10-2012, 09:53 AM
I thought the encoder and me were finally on good terms yesterday night... I cammed WITHOUT freaking iTUNES playing!!!
I was like "Oh fuck yeah, I'mma stream with my visuals cranked all the way up to the required 800 kbps tonight! Woo hoo! Fuck iTunes, man!"
So I did that very thing - for 10 minutes, and then - crash go my HD dreams. :P
Stayed on SM for half an hour and made $0. Went to MFC and made almost 4k tokens in a couple hours - praise be to the camming gods for saving my night from nightmarishness. Ugh. I need BT Infinity to get it's arse in gear and come knocking on my door with some sweet 19 mbps upload speed...
I just can't get it together either with the stupid encoder. I'm waiting for SM Support to email with me back with help on why I keep getting an error message when I connect the encoder (I posted about this in 2 other threads on here). I want to be able to enjoy SM, and enjoy not having to worry about a cam score. I'm not a lazy model, have a good internet connection, and am friendly/sexy in public chat. I need for things to get better for me on SM, otherwise I'm gonna have to just stick with MFC, and splitcamming ImLive with AdultWork.
xobarbiexo
11-12-2012, 11:07 PM
too many fucking freeloaders wtf MONDAY?!!!
xobarbiexo
11-13-2012, 12:43 AM
I don't give two fucks if you're stroking your dick in free chat ok fucker.
Stop asking me to look at your cams while you stroke your dick for free fucker!
WTF THIS FREELOADER IS LIKE IM SO HARD IM STROKING IT TELL ME WHERE TO CUM
YA KNOW WHAT HOW ABOUT TO CUM IN YOUR ASSHOLE YOU CHEAP BITCH
Vela Valentine
11-13-2012, 01:05 AM
xD ^^^^^ xD Oh God, I WISH we could say shit like that to them.... I'm debating going back & re-trying MFC too, cuz I do less than $200 a WEEK on SM and thats partially due to how often I'm on, but.... honestly I'd get on more if the "paying" traffic wasnt so bad, the free chat there hadn't have gotten so awful just this last two weeks, & I have the encoder, HD, sound, wear sexy clothes, am talkative, blah blah blah.... It sounds like it's about to be musical chairs up in the camming world, nobody seems happy :( Is this normal? I've been doing this for a few months now & everyone seems so angry lately... Do I just need to stop being a baby & put up another steel wall to block out the douches & forge through?
Vela Valentine
11-13-2012, 01:08 AM
... Top girl on Streamate is struggling towards a $20 gold show right now.... That is disheartening. :(
Via Flaminia
11-13-2012, 01:10 AM
I started snapping at people tonight for their bullshit in my chat room. Just couldn't take it anymore, geez! Finally I logged off early just before the tears or the yelling set in (I learned well from you ladies to never, ever let people see that). I never thought I could unravel like that.
If someone asked me what was wrong, I wouldn't know where to begin with my frustration....
xobarbiexo
11-13-2012, 01:18 AM
It is bc of the bs advertising of "free"!!! Or a dating site it is confusing to their simple little mind. I'm pretty sure the look at my dick men are narcissistic. Don't cry or get frustrated just log off regroup and come back
Via Flaminia
11-13-2012, 01:24 AM
Thank you xobarbiexo, you are right - regroup & come back is the best advice! Tonight I was a hot mess, beyond hope hahahha. Your encouragement helps so thank you.
xobarbiexo
11-13-2012, 03:47 AM
no problem babe I wrote that message on my phone bc I was going through some bs w/ camming lol. I got off and got back on and made money yay!!