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Vlodina
12-18-2014, 10:47 AM
Life sucks! I had a crappy Sunday then I was off Mon, Tues, Wed with family visiting. Today I'm disgustingly and unnattractively sick. Friday and Saturday better be absolutely fabulous!!
justanothercamgirl
12-18-2014, 11:11 AM
Life sucks! I had a crappy Sunday then I was off Mon, Tues, Wed with family visiting. Today I'm disgustingly and unnattractively sick. Friday and Saturday better be absolutely fabulous!!
Did you say disgustingly and unattractively sick? There is money in that! If you have the energy, make some clips for C4S. ;)
Via Flaminia
12-18-2014, 03:58 PM
I know it's hard times when I have to boot a longtime regular because he's running his big mouth saying things like "There's no one in here" and "You're not doing anything." Fuck. You.
CurvyWinona
12-19-2014, 01:14 AM
Wow, what was up on SM? Last Sunday, it was a very good day. Tonight, meh... I was making $$$ on cams, while just $12 on SM. WTF.
mzmeezz
12-19-2014, 07:27 AM
I've been camming for a little over 2 months. Today StreamRay isn't letting me broadcast so I'm stressed out and worried. I stupidly deleted my MFC account since I wanted to start over even though I knew the chances of me being able to make a new account were iffy. StreamRay has it's issues for me, but it's been working out ok and now I can't go on today. I have no e-mail or message saying my account is suspended and they aren't answering their phones. Maybe it's time to try out SM. It's so scary to start over on a new site.
I say give SM a try what is there to fear? You will not know until you jump in there and you just might be suprised with how well it goes and how comfortable you really are. There is nothing to fear but fear itself don't let fear hold you back and your money just DO IT. Fear is just an illusion of (what if) that never happens. What is the worse that can happen and when you think about that the answer is nothing.
SarahTime
12-19-2014, 03:05 PM
I'm going to cry.
Beware of "ashestoashes" on SM....
He just came pvt and turned his cam on and there he was.... asshole in camera.... SHITTING.
Just seriously, fuck my life. Normally I don't accept cam requests right away but I'm trying to be lenient since it's been slow this week for me. Big reminder why I wait. And of course he left quick.
JessaBelle
12-19-2014, 03:25 PM
Poor girl. Your eyes will be forever scarred.
http://www.funcatpictures.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/where-should-i-vomit-today-caat.jpg
SamanthaSugar
12-19-2014, 08:05 PM
Is anybody else having a slow as fuck night as I am?
Been on for 1.5 and have only made a measly $49
I need $1,000 by cutoff. Gotta stay the fuck on I suppose :(
Just kill me now please!
luvnrockets
12-19-2014, 08:11 PM
Tis the season to hate Streamate, fa la la la la, la la la la!
(fuck this shit, I'm gonna go drink now)
SarahTime
12-19-2014, 08:27 PM
I seriously don't understand it. I'm in row 2... barely any traffic... no one talking to me.... 45 mins online and $0 made.
SoloDesire
12-19-2014, 08:33 PM
I seriously don't understand it. I'm in row 2... barely any traffic... no one talking to me.... 45 mins online and $0 made.
It was bad earlier today too. Very strange for a Friday. But then again, I was in a foul mood fairly quick so it could have been partially my fault that I didn't make much today lol.
CurvyWinona
12-19-2014, 08:40 PM
Same here, Sarah. So weird. I just logged out after 30 minutes and $0 and no guys. So, I am gonna take a short nap then try again. =/
SamanthaSugar
12-19-2014, 08:57 PM
Uhg! Going back in!!
The struggle is real today, like walking through mud.
TattooedBBW
12-19-2014, 10:08 PM
its been slow for a bunch of us. im barely making anything and a few other girls im talking to are also in the same boat. booooooO sm!
ConnyLove
12-19-2014, 10:39 PM
Girls maybe is slow because it's mad Friday and lots of companies are hosting today their xmas parties.
Marina Starr
12-22-2014, 02:44 PM
The closer it gets to the Holiday, the more disappointing people become!
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audreymadison
12-23-2014, 11:01 AM
I've made 38 so far .... Today sucks .... that is all :(
KikiGem
12-26-2014, 02:35 PM
Christmas was awful. This is long so feel free to skip.
My mom suggested that I move into my sister's empty townhouse in her college town for the summer- over an hour away from *my* school.
That was her solution to me possibly moving back home after January (I'm cutting my lease short- landlord/roommates too much to deal with)
Her idea: move in with us until my sister gets home from college in May, then back out again to make room for my sister, live in her townhouse and drive an hour and a half to school every day.
When I was obviously upset by this suggestion, she backtracked and said I could stay there over the summer, and my sister will bunk with them (my parents)
Yeah, right. She had to do that last Christmas when I was still living at home, and she fucking resented me for it- really doubt she'll allow that for a whole summer.
I called my aunt to tell her this. See, if I were my sister and I had a free townhouse (my parents pay her rent), all to myself, I would live there for the summer! Wouldn't you? Who wouldn't?? My aunt agrees. But honestly, my sister really doesn't like to spend her own money- she still asks my parents for their card when she wants a drink from Starbucks- so buying her own groceries and gas just isn't going to work for her.
I'm just upset and hurt and angry and bitter. For one, why can't my sister pay her own rent? They say "she's in college." Um, yeah me too. But I still do it.
I seriously just feel SO disposable because every time something happens, the solution is to get rid of me. It started when I was 15, (long story), happened again at 16 (four months after I came back from place #1) 17 was a fucking hellish year with my whole family living in a basement (but of course I was stuck for that one) then at 18, after we moved into a nice place, back out I was!
I just wanna say "I know my sister has Asperger's, but she's gonna have to enter the 'real world' soon, so stop fucking coddling her! She's almost 21 and pays for nothing!" They bend over backwards for her to get her way, because she will make life hell if she doesn't. And it's always at my expense.
My aunt said it's just because my mother likes to pick 'the path of least resistance.' And I'm the least resistant and the most flexible as most middle children are. But the dynamic in my family is extreme- NO compromise is ever even asked of her.
I'm just a bitter angry bitch (or my dad's favorite term for me- Jezebel) and I know it and I hate being this way but I'm just angry and I can't let anything go because it's all still going on. I try and tell my mother this but you cannot convince my parents that they have ever done anything wrong. They do not believe that they have, everything has an excuse, and they have an extremely selective memory.
I just truly feel pushed out and I don't think anything with us will ever be OK. I want to just quit school and move a couple states away and find happiness.
anonymous camgirl
12-28-2014, 03:23 PM
CAMS/STREAMRAY.. god damn you are frustrating.. fucking cheap god damn bitches.. what the fuck are the girls charging on there?? everything is just to fucking expensive for them.. shit balls!... sometimes I just don't want to fucking work on there at all anymore.. so sick of talking to one guy after the other who never fucking tip or go to pvt.. one fucking customer all fucking day.. who spent anything at all.... $27 fucking bucks on there.. god damn!
LingerieMilf
12-28-2014, 03:41 PM
I'm tired of people saying things like "You could find another job if you just looked." and "There are other options for you" or my absolute favorite "Why don't you apply at WalMart".
I don't want another job. I like this one. It is frustrating at times but I am not ashamed of it and it is far better than keeping someone elses schedual and putting up with shitty bosses and shitty treatment for minimum wage. Stop giving me advice I don't want. I like my life the way it is. I like being a Cam Girl.
anonymous camgirl
12-28-2014, 03:56 PM
^^ ain't that the truth!.. 12 yrs I have been a full time camgirl and people are STILL telling me to get a REAL job .. on cam and off cam and I am doing better than they ARE!.. you can keep your shitty low paying job! ...haha
anonymous camgirl
12-28-2014, 04:23 PM
Go on mr cam guy tell me about how you are on a limited budget and how I need to do this for you:
"It is my guess that you get a lot of visits because you are very beautiful. I was thinking if you did 5 minute gold shows for $2 or $3 for 5 minute shows you might get a lot of guys to cough up some cash because a lot of us are on limited budgets."
Since when is cam a NEED!.. like Air , Water and Food
Guys have been jacking off long before fucking CAM
AngelMari
12-28-2014, 04:40 PM
Christmas was awful. This is long so feel free to skip.
My mom suggested that I move into my sister's empty townhouse in her college town for the summer- over an hour away from *my* school.
That was her solution to me possibly moving back home after January (I'm cutting my lease short- landlord/roommates too much to deal with)
Her idea: move in with us until my sister gets home from college in May, then back out again to make room for my sister, live in her townhouse and drive an hour and a half to school every day.
When I was obviously upset by this suggestion, she backtracked and said I could stay there over the summer, and my sister will bunk with them (my parents)
Yeah, right. She had to do that last Christmas when I was still living at home, and she fucking resented me for it- really doubt she'll allow that for a whole summer.
I called my aunt to tell her this. See, if I were my sister and I had a free townhouse (my parents pay her rent), all to myself, I would live there for the summer! Wouldn't you? Who wouldn't?? My aunt agrees. But honestly, my sister really doesn't like to spend her own money- she still asks my parents for their card when she wants a drink from Starbucks- so buying her own groceries and gas just isn't going to work for her.
I'm just upset and hurt and angry and bitter. For one, why can't my sister pay her own rent? They say "she's in college." Um, yeah me too. But I still do it.
I seriously just feel SO disposable because every time something happens, the solution is to get rid of me. It started when I was 15, (long story), happened again at 16 (four months after I came back from place #1) 17 was a fucking hellish year with my whole family living in a basement (but of course I was stuck for that one) then at 18, after we moved into a nice place, back out I was!
I just wanna say "I know my sister has Asperger's, but she's gonna have to enter the 'real world' soon, so stop fucking coddling her! She's almost 21 and pays for nothing!" They bend over backwards for her to get her way, because she will make life hell if she doesn't. And it's always at my expense.
My aunt said it's just because my mother likes to pick 'the path of least resistance.' And I'm the least resistant and the most flexible as most middle children are. But the dynamic in my family is extreme- NO compromise is ever even asked of her.
I'm just a bitter angry bitch (or my dad's favorite term for me- Jezebel) and I know it and I hate being this way but I'm just angry and I can't let anything go because it's all still going on. I try and tell my mother this but you cannot convince my parents that they have ever done anything wrong. They do not believe that they have, everything has an excuse, and they have an extremely selective memory.
I just truly feel pushed out and I don't think anything with us will ever be OK. I want to just quit school and move a couple states away and find happiness.
Why do you need anyone to help you? You don't, just get your own place and do your own thing. Don't let the fact that your folks may or not "favor" your sister influence your life. Sounds to me like they love you in the way that they can. I frankly would never ask anyone, let alone my parents for help. I go to school and work multiple jobs... I'm just saying live your life and stop thinking about other people around you and what they have that you don't. If it ain't family, someone else always has more... Let it go, and be proud of the things you've accomplished and WILL continue to do. It's just you in this world, the less you rely on other people (family included) the higher you can hold your head.
Marina Starr
12-29-2014, 12:18 PM
Not really a vent or rant but more of a question of the day! WHY are a lot of Macy's employees so unhappy and miserable?! Baby, you put your name on the application and chose to come to work! Remember that! Maybe some of you should consider becoming a hoe and make your own hours and write you own paychecks! Or go to beauty school and do hurr!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/post-27758-I-approve-this-message-gif-Xti-QMeL_zpsfjdyhxem.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/post-27758-I-approve-this-message-gif-Xti-QMeL_zpsfjdyhxem.gif.html)
Bridget Gives
12-29-2014, 01:00 PM
My vent is.....well it's cold lol. I am freezing, my toes feel like they are going to break off any moment and no matter how many clothes I put on and turn up the heat it just doesn't get any better...ugh Winter...go away!
nikki187
12-29-2014, 02:20 PM
Why do some men feel the need to bathe in cologne? My boyfriend can spray a little and smell great all day. My room mate on the other hand says he likes to smell good so sprays and doesn't stop for like 5 minutes. OMG just stop you smell horrible and you are giving me a fucking headache. Only douchebags wear that much cologne!
beauvoir
12-29-2014, 03:52 PM
Not really a vent or rant but more of a question of the day! WHY are a lot of Macy's employees so unhappy and miserable?! Baby, you put your name on the application and chose to come to work! Remember that! Maybe some of you should consider becoming a hoe and make your own hours and write you own paychecks! Or go to beauty school and do hurr!
I wish it was as easy as this. I was a miserable bitch when I worked in retail because:
a) my boss treated me like a piece of shit
b) the company treated me like a piece of shit
c) the customers treated me like a piece of shit
d) i got paid FUCK ALL money whilst the owners and managers earned a fortune
So... be real. Dropping out and doing something else is a luxury many people don't have.
Marina Starr
12-29-2014, 03:59 PM
I greatly empathize! However, it does not give you a license to treat customers who are contributing to your paychecks poorly! Not everyone cares how terribly you are being treated at work because at the end of the day, you choose to be there. No one is holding a gun to your head. May sound harsh but that's the real world. And I am as real as they get!
I wish it was as easy as this. I was a miserable bitch when I worked in retail because:
a) my boss treated me like a piece of shit
b) the company treated me like a piece of shit
c) the customers treated me like a piece of shit
d) i got paid FUCK ALL money whilst the owners and managers earned a fortune
So... be real. Dropping out and doing something else is a luxury many people don't have.
TheBrownFox
12-29-2014, 04:01 PM
I know they're just trying to be friendly, but it annoys the fuck outta me when I'm out walking, and someone passing by in a car honks at me. The loud honk makes me jump, and I can never see who the person is honking due to the fact that they're in a moving vehicle.
TheBrownFox
12-29-2014, 04:25 PM
Not really a vent or rant but more of a question of the day! WHY are a lot of Macy's employees so unhappy and miserable?! Baby, you put your name on the application and chose to come to work! Remember that! Maybe some of you should consider becoming a hoe and make your own hours and write you own paychecks! Or go to beauty school and do hurr!
http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t94/tsmelania/post-27758-I-approve-this-message-gif-Xti-QMeL_zpsfjdyhxem.gif (http://s158.photobucket.com/user/tsmelania/media/post-27758-I-approve-this-message-gif-Xti-QMeL_zpsfjdyhxem.gif.html)
Yes. The ladies who work the fitting rooms at a particular Walmart in my area are grumpy as hell. One time I was in one of the fitting rooms, and I heard one of them bitching about how the person on the phone had called to ask "Are you guys hiring?" Um...what's wrong with that? It's a legit question! Lol.
Meanwhile, my local Chick Fil A ALWAYS provides phenomenal customer service. Every single one of those employees have smiles on their faces, friendly attitudes, and say "My pleasure!" about getting you your order. They probably get shitty pay, and pain-in-the-ass customers sometimes, but they still do a fantastic job of being professional and NOT displaying a 'Woe is me' attitude.
My uncle always said "Anything you do in life...do it to the fullest." If you've got a job to do, do it well. As a customer, when I see/hear an employee who looks/sounds miserable, it makes me feel like I've inconvenienced them and am getting on their nerves.
Marina Starr
12-29-2014, 04:32 PM
I like Chick and they are exactly as you described whenever I go to pick up something: PLEASANT! The bitches at Macy's didn't even want to ring my stuff up, they were hiding, lol. WTF? Ain't nobody got time for that!
Yes. The ladies who work the fitting rooms at a particular Walmart in my area are grumpy as hell. One time I was in one of the fitting rooms, and I heard one of them bitching about how the person on the phone had called to ask "Are you guys hiring?" Um...what's wrong with that? It's a legit question! Lol.
Meanwhile, my local Chick Fil A ALWAYS provides phenomenal customer service. Every single one of those employees have smiles on their faces, friendly attitudes, and say "My pleasure!" about getting you your order. They probably get shitty pay, and pain-in-the-ass customers sometimes, but they still do a fantastic job of being professional and NOT displaying a 'Woe is me' attitude.
My uncle always said "Anything you do in life...do it to the fullest." If you've got a job to do, do it well. As a customer, when I see/hear an employee who looks/sounds miserable, it makes me feel like I've inconvenienced them and am getting on their nerves.
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 04:50 PM
Ugh I'm soo pissed off right now my check was stolen from CMD and it totally has me in a really bad mood I don't even want to get online.. I'm sooo angry ..
IvyAdams
12-29-2014, 04:54 PM
Ugh I'm soo pissed off right now my check was stolen from CMD and it totally has me in a really bad mood I don't even want to get online.. I'm sooo angry ..
WHAAAT?! That is horrible :( I hope that this situation gets resolved FAST!
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 05:01 PM
^^ most likely it won't :( it was already cashed... It wasn't a huge check it's one of my side sites but it all adds up .i don't think it was taken directly from my mailbox maybe from the mail room or maybe put in the wrong mailbox
SoloDesire
12-29-2014, 05:11 PM
^^ most likely it won't :( it was already cashed... It wasn't a huge check it's one of my side sites but it all adds up .i don't think it was taken directly from my mailbox maybe from the mail room or maybe put in the wrong mailbox
If you can find out what bank cashed the check you can file a fraud claim. That was the bank's fault for allowing someone other than YOU to cash it.
Issabelle
12-29-2014, 05:12 PM
^^ most likely it won't :( it was already cashed... It wasn't a huge check it's one of my side sites but it all adds up .i don't think it was taken directly from my mailbox maybe from the mail room or maybe put in the wrong mailbox
Contact Mark--he should be able to cancel the check and reissue the funds to you. He'll also be able to see who exactly cashed it on his end. Cashing a check for another person is ILLEGAL and I doubt Mark will be thrilled about that shit. Unless you've already contacted Mark and he's feeling unhelpful...
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 05:17 PM
^^ he said it was already cashed and since it literally happened today he can't see the details only the withdrawal on his end so he can't put a stop on it .. Tomorrow he will get an image of the check and other details.I was really hoping it was my own error and I really did deposit but nothing comes up when I look up the check number in my bank account.
Issabelle
12-29-2014, 05:17 PM
Re: Macy's employees. I agree--I hate people who work in customer service and are pissed. Having worked in healthcare myself, I'll say that I get it and it's a personal frustration of mine. If the management is shitty, people hate each other and their customers. If one or two employees are seriously negative, they can bring down everyone. If most employees are negative? Well, that's a recipe for disaster. People feed on each other, bringing down morale and productivity. You have a job to do, so do it and be glad to have it!
On the flip side, most people working retail right now are seasonal employees and close to being fired/laid off. Very few seasonal employees get promoted to full time and the ones working those jobs are often working them to make ends meet. When you hear you didn't get selected to continue full/part time permanently, I can see it being hard to play nice at work. However, your chances of ever getting a good reference/full time employment there or elsewhere also tank when you behave poorly. It's just...ugh.
I have a rant of my own today though: Men are morons who are really good at doing a million tiny, slightly annoying things that total up to one angry French woman (that's me!). They need to stop doing that immediately. Also, they need to make a pill for dealing with unreasonable expectations.
That's all.
Issabelle
12-29-2014, 05:19 PM
^^ he said it was already cashed and since it literally happened today he can't see the details only the withdrawal on his end so he can't put a stop on it .. Tomorrow he will get an image of the check and other details.I was really hoping it was my own error and I really did deposit but nothing comes up when I look up the check number in my bank account.
Well, good news is that he should be able to put a stop on it once details come through. Hopefully the person who did this gets what's coming or, at least, needed the money for something very important to stoop to stealing! Food for their family or pets is about the only thing I'll turn a blind eye to personally...
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 05:33 PM
^^ mark said it was already cashed :/ yes I hope karma bites them in the ASS!!! Thing is Is during christmas mail crime goes up.. Not because there in need but because criminals know that's when our mailboxes are likely to have christmas money/cash/packages worth more . Same thing happened a few years ago with a package I sent out the guys walked right up grabbed it , lol me n my bf were in the living room and saw it all I was like mails here,lol then we noticed it was wierd car so he chased them down cutt them off since they were stupid enough to pull over right around the block from my house to tear open the package and see what they stole they freaked out someone actually caught them they freak in speeded off .lol only funny thing is it was a stupid kids laptop hahah like a vtech one but the box looked like it could have been a real laptop
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 05:34 PM
If you can find out what bank cashed the check you can file a fraud claim. That was the bank's fault for allowing someone other than YOU to cash it.
Yes I'm hoping I can at least do that... I would like to see the name too incase there in my neighborhood or my mailman
Issabelle
12-29-2014, 06:01 PM
Yes I'm hoping I can at least do that... I would like to see the name too incase there in my neighborhood or my mailman
I'm guessing what Mark meant is that it was cashed as in 'pending' but not cleared (posted details), so he should be able to see where the check was cashed, how, and when after it clears in a few days. If they forged your name and did it by mobile deposit, the bank will have the phone number used and the person has committed a felony. If they deposited it in person, it should have required ID, so I imagine it was via mobile. Hard to say though. Either way, he should be able to figure it out once it clears. Hopefully. I can't imagine anyone being stupid enough to put their name on a check that was meant for someone else and thinking they wouldn't be caught. That's a special level of stupidity. Anyway, hope it works out love. *hugs*
TheBrownFox
12-29-2014, 06:11 PM
If you can find out what bank cashed the check you can file a fraud claim. That was the bank's fault for allowing someone other than YOU to cash it.
That happened to me a long time ago with a disability check I had been expecting in the mail. I had a preterm labor incident (early contractions) and had to go on bedrest, so my job at the time had made arrangements for me to get disability pay. A new single mom, I had come home with my newborn baby, and had discovered that a very large check of mine had been stolen, forged, and cashed. I never got to see that money, even after it had been investigated. The worst part is that I KNOW my son's dad (a sociopath) and his loser friend were behind it.
LaylaLovely, I hope your incident has a happier ending than mine did, and that you're able to get all of your money. *hug* That is terrible, and yes, the bank shouldn't have allowed someone other than you to cash it!
Heid009
12-29-2014, 06:18 PM
'To commission a custom clip email me for a PRICE quote'
No I don't want you to send me long detailed emails about the clip you want (which of course requires purchase of stuff I don't have and is probably not going to resell) and then a stupid "If I could pay I would / I don't buy custom clips (by which he means I want a free custom clip) / other lame excuse"
I hate these stupid time wasting losers. So much. I hope that their computers all get viruses and DIE
Marina Starr
12-29-2014, 06:28 PM
I hope you get your money but for the future, Mark can directly deposit the money into your account. He will just need your routing and account number. That's how I get paid on CMD.
Yes I'm hoping I can at least do that... I would like to see the name too incase there in my neighborhood or my mailman
LaylaLovely
12-29-2014, 11:40 PM
Great news it was all a huge mixup !!! It wasn't posted to my account so that's why the check # didn't show up .. But just got off the phone with them and confirmed it was deposited ....I feel silly now :/
ashley jane
12-30-2014, 10:37 AM
I like Chick and they are exactly as you described whenever I go to pick up something: PLEASANT! The bitches at Macy's didn't even want to ring my stuff up, they were hiding, lol. WTF? Ain't nobody got time for that!
I worked at Macy's and there were customers I would hide from and if other people were in the department I didn't care. We have sales goals to make that determines our raises and this lady would buy $100 worth of stuff but would then return it and try and return stolen shit. I'd rather lose more sales hiding then to deal with her. She was crazy. Macy's had to shut her card off and ban her from the store because she'd buy and return then return stolen shit. Found out the credit cards she was using weren't even hers they were her moms and she wasn't even from my state.
Marina Starr
12-30-2014, 11:23 AM
I said A LOT of Macy's employees in my PERSONAL experience. I didn't say ALL in my original post. I'm sure they are good employees there. If what I said didn't apply to you then let it fly!
I worked at Macy's and there were customers I would hide from and if other people were in the department I didn't care. We have sales goals to make that determines our raises and this lady would buy $100 worth of stuff but would then return it and try and return stolen shit. I'd rather lose more sales hiding then to deal with her. She was crazy. Macy's had to shut her card off and ban her from the store because she'd buy and return then return stolen shit. Found out the credit cards she was using weren't even hers they were her moms and she wasn't even from my state.
ashley jane
12-31-2014, 09:46 AM
I said A LOT of Macy's employees in my PERSONAL experience. I didn't say ALL in my original post. I'm sure they are good employees there. If what I said didn't apply to you then let it fly!
I know you didn't mean all. I was just saying I have done it. My store is a smaller one with repeat customers and there was more than just that lady I would hide from because they're a pain in the ass. I'd rather keep some sanity and hide than to get sales cause I don't work on commission.
EllieGold
12-31-2014, 11:08 AM
timewasters in free chat... seems there was tons of them yesterday