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Benefit
11-24-2012, 07:55 PM
^ If you're talking about cams.com, it happened to me too. I don't use cams.com anymore, for many reasons, including chargebacks. It was a decent site other than the chargebacks, though.

I agree that refunds on fanclubs are ridiculous. It happened to me once or twice and it pissed me off.

StephanieXS
11-24-2012, 08:01 PM
^ If you're talking about cams.com, it happened to me too. I don't use cams.com anymore, for many reasons, including chargebacks. It was a decent site other than the chargebacks, though.

I agree that refunds on fanclubs are ridiculous. It happened to me once or twice and it pissed me off.

This is only my second chargeback. My other one was for a good reason too; I wasn't even alerted I was in pvt chat for over 10 minutes. I think they might have gotten their shot together since you left, cuz so far I've loved them! But, I also don't understand streamray at all so I've never used it...

Benefit
11-24-2012, 08:04 PM
Yeah, I've heard from other people that chargebacks are pretty few and far in between there lately. I worked there a long time ago, so they've probably improved, but they were a big problem when I worked there.

SarahTime
11-25-2012, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I've heard from other people that chargebacks are pretty few and far in between there lately. I worked there a long time ago, so they've probably improved, but they were a big problem when I worked there.

I was beginning to wonder if cams.com even does chargebacks anymore? I haven't had one there since April, and that was only my 2nd chargeback ever. I've only had tips charged back, nothing else.

Benefit
11-25-2012, 05:44 PM
^ That's awesome to hear, because the main thing I didn't like about Cams was CB's. Now that people are saying there aren't many CB's anymore, it might be worth it for me to splitcam.

If the payout was higher, it might have justified the chargebacks, but if I remember right their percentage was like 29% ... but I'll still likely resurrect my old Cams.com account and use it to splitcam with SM, in nude chat only.

SarahTime
11-25-2012, 06:56 PM
^ That's awesome to hear, because the main thing I didn't like about Cams was CB's. Now that people are saying there aren't many CB's anymore, it might be worth it for me to splitcam.

If the payout was higher, it might have justified the chargebacks, but if I remember right their percentage was like 29% ... but I'll still likely resurrect my old Cams.com account and use it to splitcam with SM, in nude chat only.

Yah it's only 29%, I only use it for split camming too ;)

Sunnylexie
11-25-2012, 07:01 PM
I used to work as a recruiting manager/translator for a studio for about 2 years. Our major site was Cams.com aka Streamray, and girls I worked with would face CB's now and then. We'd only let those guys get away with it if they did CB's for less than 5 minutes. Otherwise, we'd report them for supposed fraud (like: "%username% wouldn't have spent in the show that long unless it was good enough; so a probable reason for him to ask for a refund was him using the site to discreetly withdraw money from a stolen CC". Though it didn't get the money back to us, it gave us some satisfaction.

xobarbiexo
11-26-2012, 02:23 AM
Today is ridiculous! So much drama within the first fifteen minutes of logging in.
Things are getting better, but I know it's someone on my twitter
BUT I don't see why lol why follow me just to bother the shit out of me?

TheBrownFox
11-26-2012, 10:03 AM
Today is ridiculous! So much drama within the first fifteen minutes of logging in.
Things are getting better, but I know it's someone on my twitter
BUT I don't see why lol why follow me just to bother the shit out of me?


Ken1111 (whose ban on MFC I have to refresh every damn 60 days, cuz he's an asshole) found me on Streamate, and I'm wondering if he's A) made a NEW Twitter account to follow me under, or B) he just happened to be browsing Streamate when I was on cam. I don't know, but I'm glad his dumb ass stuck around long enough for me to click his name to ban him...LOL.

ToriGirl
11-27-2012, 02:04 PM
I feel like I worked my tail off today and only made .....well, less than $50. I'm still new to this, but don't have my "new" banner anymore. Just felt like a huge failure. Tomorrow will be better, right?

Oh, and thanks for all of the inspiration that I get from all of you. It really does make a huge difference and I've learned so much!

KimKlass
11-27-2012, 02:13 PM
It might not be better tomorrow, or you might bank! There is no way of telling, but definitely don't get discouraged already. Give it time. If you are on MFC, you will need even more time to get a following. But success will indeed take time on any site.

CarmenF
11-27-2012, 03:21 PM
I'm not on cam sites but I have a cyclical income... If you set yourself a daily goal you HAVE TO achieve then by the end of the "shift" you'll find yourself doing silly things like giving yourself away for close to nothing and regretting it after! Take your time, tomorrow you might make thrice as much, or maybe next week earn a whole month's money (happened to me)

ToriGirl
11-27-2012, 06:50 PM
Thanks for that. I do have a daily goal, which of course, I did not meet today. Rather than beat myself up over it, though, I tend to look at the overall trend and daily average. I'm good with that approach. And, I've learned from you guys that staying online when you're mentally over it is an exercise in futility. I do think I'm going to give SM a try tomorrow. I've been on MFC.

EvelynHeartsYou
11-27-2012, 08:15 PM
You won't meet those goals every day, but don't give up. The important thing is to stay persistent! :) Try setting a goal of time spent online (2-4 hours per shift so you build up your camming stamina without burning out) rather than a monetary goal. Once guys get to know your schedule and see you as "reliable" so to speak, it becomes a lot easier to build a regular following.

vivianbear
11-27-2012, 10:17 PM
Uuumm... I was on for an hour and 45 minutes, today and made $2. Seriously. It happens. I don't give a shit, though. I have days where I exceed my goals for several days' averages. Today, I made exactly enough to round off to the nearest hundred for the pay period and bailed. Life goes on.

lifetravelergirl
11-27-2012, 10:38 PM
I don't make a lot of money camming but I always stick with it until I make at least $40 USA dollars. If I top a hundred dollars in a night I am ecstatic. As long as I put in the hours I make what I was making as a stripper when I was working in a Mom and Pop's club.

Blonde-Ambition
11-28-2012, 09:17 AM
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr this week has been sooooooooooooooooooo slow and quiet for me! fumin hell!!!!
whats going on?!
rant over!

funkybrewster
11-28-2012, 03:17 PM
"Can you lower your rates for your specials?"
No. NO. NO!!!! -pulls out hair-

Missbeth
11-28-2012, 03:21 PM
It's been slow for me too. Like, I'm just sitting here and NOONE is in my room, and I'm on the first fucking page. I just put geo block on, too so that might have something to do with it cuz I know they have to be logged in to see me. I don't wanna turn it off, but Jesus Christ! I've made $6 in almost 40 minutes.

SM has been SO slow for me too...Im first page row 2-4 usually and like no traffic....wtf.
I thought it was just me but ughhh....I wish it was atleast there would be hope it would pick up and it could be my fault, I'd rather it be me being sucky than the site at least I could maybe turn it around then.

SarahTime
11-28-2012, 03:48 PM
I find that hour based goals are much better than monetary goals. My goal is to stay on for 5 hours every day. That prevents me from logging off too soon if I make my goal early, or from beating myself up if I don't make the dollar amount I wanted.

Sunnylexie
11-28-2012, 05:00 PM
SM has been SO slow for me too...Im first page row 2-4 usually and like no traffic....wtf.
I thought it was just me but ughhh....I wish it was atleast there would be hope it would pick up and it could be my fault, I'd rather it be me being sucky than the site at least I could maybe turn it around then.

Are you on SM? It's been all fucked up these days(( I was on row 4 yesterday and my room was tumbleweeds (seriously, 6 ppl max during a gold countdown). Yesterday, the site crashed, and the day before it failed when I was in my TV show countdown (the gold-meter got stuck when I met the goal, and then I got a popup saying the show couldn't be started because of a system error). They sent me a message after telling how bad of me it was and that they're going to reconsider my further participation in TV shows. WTF???!!!!!!! I didn't even exit the chat when it happened, and it couldn't be me "pressing the wrong button", bc there are NO buttons of any kind on TV-show countdown popup. It's just a timer.

0TaraM
11-28-2012, 05:36 PM
Guys searching free stuf there. There are models showing at least breast or niples free or wearing only pants and u can see through..

Sunnylexie
11-28-2012, 10:09 PM
Getting tons of scammers on SM advertising some "subscription for Ashley". IDK who the Ashley is, but if she's a model sending scammers to other models' rooms - I want her to burn in hell.

LittleSexBunny
11-28-2012, 11:30 PM
SM....so............effin............slowwwwwwww!! 100 dollars in 3 hours :( WTF!!!!!

karaamsel
11-29-2012, 12:26 AM
well 2 regulars flaked out on me today... so i'm feeling sick right now. why did they have to get their man-periods at the same time ugh

PrincessLuna
11-29-2012, 12:28 AM
Getting tons of scammers on SM advertising some "subscription for Ashley". IDK who the Ashley is, but if she's a model sending scammers to other models' rooms - I want her to burn in hell.

It's probably just an affiliate marketer. They try to get guys to sign up under their links/white labels. Their tactics aren't the best, but sometimes I play along (depending) and am able to get it to convert. Hell, some of them were nice enough to use my cammodels link (not sure why) and I got some nice coin from it.

marsey
11-29-2012, 06:13 PM
four hours on AW in non free chat and not a cent. So bad, i`d thought the site had issues but no, just complete deadsville >:(>:(

TheBrownFox
11-29-2012, 06:23 PM
What really sucks is when regulars from Cam site A visits you on Cam site B and see you struggling on there too. It's also the reason I have music on at all times when I'm on a free chat site...too damn awkward without music playing.

TheBrownFox
11-29-2012, 06:29 PM
Yesterday, the site crashed, and the day before it failed when I was in my TV show countdown (the gold-meter got stuck when I met the goal, and then I got a popup saying the show couldn't be started because of a system error). They sent me a message after telling how bad of me it was and that they're going to reconsider my further participation in TV shows. WTF???!!!!!!! I didn't even exit the chat when it happened, and it couldn't be me "pressing the wrong button", bc there are NO buttons of any kind on TV-show countdown popup. It's just a timer.


SM is very often in complete denial about their tech issues that I don't even bother e-mailing them anymore. They try to blame it on the model...saying that it must be her connection or this and that. But I've seen top models (as well as models on here and on ACF) on there getting frustrating with SM's issues. Yet when you e-mail them, they claim they "haven't received any other complaints lately." Hmmm.....

lifetravelergirl
11-29-2012, 07:23 PM
Last night I worked very hard for a total of $26.20.

I think I banned about eight guys last night.

I was thinking about banning a guy who has tipped me $20 in the past because he lied to me about the work he does (and forgot his lie) and then he was encouraging me to perform for free in free chat but to put up an Amazon wish list so that non-paying creepers can buy me clothing they want to see me wear in free chat.

That seems pretty F'ed up to me and he was like, "Oh BB Amazon wish lists are totally anonymous the only thing they will know is your cam name and the city and state you live in. I mean seriously? That's anonymous? Maybe if you live in NY or Dallas.. Los Angeles maybe?

end of rant ...

lifetravelergirl
11-29-2012, 07:28 PM
One positive thing I will say, having Streamate suck so bad right now has forced me to up my game, my seduction technique... Except I am not making any $ so there is no confirmation that it is actually working O_o ? But the freebie guys are telling me how beautiful and seductive I am.

I had a guy tell me, "You are such a tease." And I wanted to say, "No you are the tease, this is my job, I want to please but you won't let me." Ok, thinking about it I have no reason not to say that next time. Also I think I am finding my niche because humiliating these guys and telling them are pathetic little panty wankers feels good to me. I guess I just need to find a site that can work with my new found talents and abilities O_o . Any suggestions?

SarahTime
11-29-2012, 07:30 PM
One positive thing I will say, having Streamate suck so bad right now has forced me to up my game, my seduction technique... Except I am not making any $ so there is no confirmation that it is actually working O_o ? But the freebie guys are telling me how beautiful and seductive I am.

I had a guy tell me, "You are such a tease." And I wanted to say, "No you are the tease, this is my job, I want to please but you won't let me." Ok, thinking about it I have no reason not to say that next time. Also I think I am finding my niche because humiliating these guys and telling them are pathetic little panty wankers feels good to me. I guess I just need to find a site that can work with my new found talents and abilities O_o .

Make sure your profile information reflects that you are into humiliating them, etc. that way you show up in search results and guys who look for that kind of thing know that you are available for that. I get SO many guys requesting this, and I just don't do it. So make sure you advertise that because it's a huge niche!

Sunnylexie
11-29-2012, 10:02 PM
WTF, STREAMATE?!!!! WHERES MY FUCKING TRAFFIC?!!!!!!!!

0 to 2 ppl in guest chat, on page 1 X(

italianstarcamgirl
11-29-2012, 10:07 PM
Its really slow for me tonight as well and I'm third row - people in my room but little pledging and I'm tired and crampy so I don't even want privates, was hoping to do a few gold shows and call it a night but not the case - off to bed tomorrow is a new day and men with $ hopefully. ;)

Sunnylexie
11-29-2012, 10:56 PM
Good for you - feeling fresh is a thing the money can't buy)

lifetravelergirl
11-29-2012, 11:12 PM
SM....so............effin............slowwwwwwww!! 100 dollars in 3 hours :( WTF!!!!!


$0 in 6 hours, can you beat that? If I was making a hundred dollars in three hours I would be in Heaven and that includes my good days.

lifetravelergirl
11-29-2012, 11:24 PM
Make sure your profile information reflects that you are into humiliating them, etc. that way you show up in search results and guys who look for that kind of thing know that you are available for that. I get SO many guys requesting this, and I just don't do it. So make sure you advertise that because it's a huge niche!

Thank you SarahTime, I don't suppose anyone can tell me where I can edit my profile information on Streamate, I clicked on every link I could find, even the one that says "edit profile" and I cannot find it.

UGH... Update I finally found it, it is called Edit Show Text (thanks Streamate) O_O ...
I did manage to send a message to support to ask for the Break button they never told me about.

Snowy0Star
11-30-2012, 01:21 AM
I find it really pathetic these cheap asses on my free cams wont even tip me 100 tokens to dance naked for a few min while I bust my ass and work out playing Dance Dance Revolution. Im working out for two hours in the morning for me and my health to lose weight and get in shape and I thought "hey guys like it when girls move around act sexy and DANCE I bet I can get guys to tip me to dance naked" nope they say ooooo Im sooo sexy and they like my ass my curves my this my that but will they give me anything for the privilege of watching me literally bust my ass ? NOPE! But they sure as hell will give some blonde bimbo who cant even do the fucking math right on her tip count to fuck herself on a machine 750 tokens and all shes doing is laying in her bed in booty shorts sox and a half shirt....

SarahTime
11-30-2012, 01:47 AM
I'm guessing the dead traffic tonight had to do with 4 top models doing gold shows together.... tits out, making out, sucking tits, rubbing pussies.... in free chat.

Which you know, good for them they look like they are having a lot of fun but I just wish girls wouldn't do that stuff in free chat.

twistedprincess
11-30-2012, 07:30 AM
.....

AliceFun
11-30-2012, 08:51 AM
$0 in 6 hours, can you beat that? If I was making a hundred dollars in three hours I would be in Heaven and that includes my good days.

$2.15 in 3.5 hrs!! WTF!!

MissAdriana
11-30-2012, 11:30 AM
I REALLY want to break $400 some week and have been working every day to do it: wednesday and thursday were decent for me, but today - 2 gold tips in 3hrs. I think the most I had in my room was 6 guys - no privates only gold tips. Last day of the month has never really been successful for me but I'll try to get on again tonight. In the meantime I'll be making videos

Pippi_Hicks
11-30-2012, 02:41 PM
For everyone who has been having serious issues with streamate this week... here's what I experienced yesterday/last night and what finally helped - kind of:

I signed on and had a good hour in the afternoon, then took a break and had a decent hour again in the early evening, but when I signed on at around 10:30pm it all went to shit. People were just popping in and out, I didn't recognize any of the names, and none of my regulars were showing up. Finally one regular appeared and after a little while I mentioned how weird the night had been and how no one was staying in my room. So he tells me that I wasn't on his favorites list when he signed on, that he clicked on me from the "recently viewed models" list in the sidebar because I'd told him earlier in the day that I'd be on that night. I asked him if I was still on his favorites list - he said yes, and that there was still a little heart in the corner of my window on his screen... I just wasn't showing up on his list as being online. I thought this was really strange so I signed off and signed back on through internet explorer instead of firefox (which I had been using). He came back in my room and said that I still wasn't showing up on his list. I asked him to send a message to support (since I figured they would blame me if I tried to report the issue). He contacted their live support instead and I took screen shots of their response that he typed in my room. I don't have the text for what he wrote but here's what they told him:

- "You have a lot of favorites sir"
- "I would suggest searching her when you want to see her"
- "I had no problem going to her page on your account"
- "It does show up"
- "You have too many favorites"
- "That is all"
- "so sorry"
- "either delete some or just search for her"
- "have a good day"
- chat session has been terminated by the site operator

He was pretty pissed at how he was just dismissed at the end and he told me that he'd noticed earlier this week that his online favorites were only taking up 3/4 of the first page when he signed on, whereas usually the online girls take up the first page and a half of his favorites list when he normally signs on. I was starting to freak out a bit by this point, and I thought about all of the posts on here from ladies who haven't been making any damn money this week. Anyways, I signed off again and signed back on *without* the encoder. In a matter of minutes I had my regulars back in my room plus new people were showing up and sticking around. Not only was I now showing up as "online" on the first guy's favorites list again but I also asked my other regulars if I was on their lists now too. I was, and one of them even said that he'd been online for about 20 minutes but I hadn't shown up until just then. My first thought was "Fucking encoder... " but the regular who'd been helping me with all of this decided to test things again so he signed out and back on but this time I wasn't on his list even when I wasn't using the encoder - however I was still on other people's lists. Everything seemed to be OK, not great - but OK. Then it lost my connection twice so I said fuck this and took a break. Taking inspiration from what others have posted here, I shut down/restarted my computer this time before I signed back on. Just for kicks I decided to try the encoder too and much to my surprise everything worked just fine. Had some regulars and a nice long session with no problems.

So, to everyone who has been barely making enough to buy a gallon of gas (or less) over the span of hours on streamate...
- try streaming without the encoder (if you normally use it).
- try restarting your computer (no idea why this should make a difference but it seemed to with me).
- if you're lucky enough to have regulars in your room, ask them if you're showing up on their favorites list.
- if you're not showing up on their list, ask them to send a message to support (the live help appears to be worthless).

Whatever the hell is going on with streamate, I really hope they get it fixed soon.

SarahTime
11-30-2012, 02:47 PM
I'm definitely not trying to say that the issues people have are not Streamates fault... but I find it so odd that in nearly two years on Streamate I've been disconnected from the site less than a handful of times, maybe 3 times in the whole time I've been on the site. I've also never had a problem with the encoder, except once when it wasn't registering my HD icon and I figured out the issue which was on my end.

Any freezing I've experienced was when my CPU got too high... so that would be on my end as well.

It's just so weird......? How so many people have issues, and so many others have had next to none? Mind boggling.

SweetPinkCupcake
11-30-2012, 02:53 PM
I'm guessing the dead traffic tonight had to do with 4 top models doing gold shows together.... tits out, making out, sucking tits, rubbing pussies.... in free chat.

Which you know, good for them they look like they are having a lot of fun but I just wish girls wouldn't do that stuff in free chat.

^WORD!

Incantatious
11-30-2012, 03:03 PM
I'm definitely not trying to say that the issues people have are not Streamates fault... but I find it so odd that in nearly two years on Streamate I've been disconnected from the site less than a handful of times, maybe 3 times in the whole time I've been on the site. I've also never had a problem with the encoder, except once when it wasn't registering my HD icon and I figured out the issue which was on my end.

Any freezing I've experienced was when my CPU got too high... so that would be on my end as well.

It's just so weird......? How so many people have issues, and so many others have had next to none? Mind boggling.

My assumption / going by SM Support, has always been that those who have never had any encoder problems or streaming problems, just have fucking invincible internet connections..

What connection / ISP do you have Sarah and what is your upload speed? Cuz I want whatever you've got! (Or as close a replica as I can get in the UK!)

SarahTime
11-30-2012, 03:12 PM
My assumption / going by SM Support, has always been that those who have never had any encoder problems or streaming problems, just have fucking invincible internet connections..

What connection / ISP do you have Sarah and what is your upload speed? Cuz I want whatever you've got! (Or as close a replica as I can get in the UK!)

Well that does make sense. I have Verizon Fios, about 75 down, 35 up.

Jessica1001
11-30-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm guessing the dead traffic tonight had to do with 4 top models doing gold shows together.... tits out, making out, sucking tits, rubbing pussies.... in free chat.

Which you know, good for them they look like they are having a lot of fun but I just wish girls wouldn't do that stuff in free chat.

Oh shit, I missed this?? :-)

What time did they log off? Come to think of it, there WAS a very clear "not making money --> making money" transition point for me last night, so I guess that was their log-off time? Hmmmm.. Oh well.. hope they had fun!

(I understand the frustration that these shows suck up traffic, but whenever I remind myself that these girls have to split 35% 4 ways, I get less jealous.) :-)

Benefit
11-30-2012, 03:24 PM
Well that does make sense. I have Verizon Fios, about 75 down, 35 up.
Holy shit. I need to look into switching my internet. I use an i7 and my internet company is Cox, and mine is around 20 Down, and between 5-6 Up. I thought my speeds were decent enough but now I'm rethinking things, LOL.

SarahTime
11-30-2012, 03:31 PM
Holy shit. I need to look into switching my internet. I use an i7 and my internet company is Cox, and mine is around 20 Down, and between 5-6 Up. I thought my speeds were decent enough but now I'm rethinking things, LOL.

Unfortunately the coverage area for Verizon Fios is pretty limited. And I absolutely refuse to move outside the coverage area!

It's worth going on Verizon's website and checking though. ATT has fiber optic as well, but the speeds are nothing compared to Verizon, but possibly better than cable? Not sure.