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nolita_xoxo
06-02-2015, 05:53 PM
I agree with you,,,those comments above urs make me think they dun even work on cam. they have rule like that whats do they do about their friend in real life??? makes them give them money or not talks 2 them???


I haven't seen even one person say they get naked for anyone who doesn't pay, not sure what post you're referring to. I really don't think it's anyone's business how chummy a model decides to be or not with freeloaders and there's been quite enough harping on that topic anyway, but your good intentions are appreciated.

My post was in reference to this. No, we don't have rules like that for friends- what I mean by that is, my friends are not solely sexually motivated to be around me in the way customers are and I'm not financially motivated to be around them. You should expect money from customers because you put work into camming/entertaining them and your time is valuable. I don't comment here to insult other girls' styles or hustles; if that's working for you, fantastic. Shit, I don't have half the experience some of the girls around here do but I really think they advise because they mean well and want to see others do well too. Catch ya in the 'camming rocks!' thread soon. :goodvibes

doublerainbow
06-02-2015, 06:57 PM
I totally agree, nolita_xoxo. X) I unintentionally started the whole topic by mentioning off-hand that one of my "regulars" has yet to spend money on me but has provided entertaining convo and tech support so I let him hang around in free (my actual post was about what a shitty time I was having on cam that day). I've defended my stance on it being totally cool to have members like that hanging around freechat... well, because I like standing up for unpopular ideas if I happen to agree with them lol. After reading the plethora of thoughtful opinions to the contrary, though, my stance is beginning to change.. so I'm extra grateful that the topic got so much attention. I still firmly believe that every model is entitled to run her cam room in whatever style she wants, free of judgment, but I can definitely see the benefit of viewing all members in your room as customers and expecting them to contribute as customers should.

I started camming almost 3 years ago but my actual time online makes me incredibly inexperienced still and I admit it freely. ;P I'm super happy to have this site and all the models on it to turn to and learn from, whether or not we always agree.

pinkpink
06-02-2015, 06:57 PM
When a studio fucks you over....this is the 2nd time it's happened to me. I've tried to do research and listen to people and make good choices with my work but sometimes you get roped into something. You try to make the best of it, watch out for yourself and it fucks you over. :/ Sometimes I do think I'm too nice & naive for this industry. :(

SexyLittleThing
06-02-2015, 07:58 PM
I don't know what's going on with SM traffic. In hour and a half I managed to get 60 fucking cents :D
I'm in a good mood today, so I'll stay and pray for an exclusive chat, but shit SM. I don't love you anymore!

doublerainbow
06-02-2015, 10:11 PM
God... first night with the new dailypay account on SM. First hour, nothing. Lowered my rates to 3.99/4.99 thinking I'll keep it only until I get a few shows and regain a 5 star rating. Second hour, NOTHING. Not a single show, at the cheapest I've been in ever! Wtf is wrooooong?? I greet everyone who comes in, I'm smiley and flirty and sexy without giving too much away, I have a little smalltalk then cut it off, I ignore the losers and trolls outright.... what more do I have to do??

RaeRae
06-02-2015, 10:15 PM
SM was terrible for me tonight. I didn't break $5 in 3 hours, and the little I did make was from GS, so it wasn't just y'all tonight. My entire night only went well because of Indy shows and split camming.

doublerainbow
06-02-2015, 10:25 PM
I haven't wrapped my head around indy yet and I'm pretty sure my bandwidth is too low to split. x_x I'm so dead if this keeps up. Glad your general night was good at least RaeRae

IvyRose
06-03-2015, 04:17 AM
Holy damn, only kept online for 20 minutes, after that I was so pissed off I logged of. I can handle slowness but the not talking was killing me.
Will try again in a couple of houres- I was online in the Houre Of Doom, so not really suprising it went sour.

I was bitching to the guys in free chat which irritates me since I normally can fake it through. They deserved it though

anonymous camgirl
06-03-2015, 08:32 AM
Last night was EXTREMELY SLOW!.. Like slow as fuck.


God... first night with the new dailypay account on SM. First hour, nothing. Lowered my rates to 3.99/4.99 thinking I'll keep it only until I get a few shows and regain a 5 star rating. Second hour, NOTHING. Not a single show, at the cheapest I've been in ever! Wtf is wrooooong?? I greet everyone who comes in, I'm smiley and flirty and sexy without giving too much away, I have a little smalltalk then cut it off, I ignore the losers and trolls outright.... what more do I have to do??

SoloDesire
06-03-2015, 11:11 AM
Why do I still bother logging in at all in the morning/early afternoon?!!! It only pays off for me like 15% of the time. Such a waste of my time...I need to find a way to put in more hours later in the day. I just prefer splitting my time so it's not so overwhelming all at once...but I'm finding it pointless. $27 in 2 hours is just not worth it anymore.

LolaLu
06-03-2015, 11:53 AM
Im the same. I dont bother before 6pm usually. Occasionally I will do a 3pm

anonymous camgirl
06-03-2015, 12:57 PM
same with me.. I used to get sooooooo many cam shows in the morning.. now it's nothing hardly


Why do I still bother logging in at all in the morning/early afternoon?!!! It only pays off for me like 15% of the time. Such a waste of my time...I need to find a way to put in more hours later in the day. I just prefer splitting my time so it's not so overwhelming all at once...but I'm finding it pointless. $27 in 2 hours is just not worth it anymore.

anonymous camgirl
06-03-2015, 01:58 PM
It's so Deadsville that last nite I was showing the guys my budget and highlighting the ENTERTAINMENT account and was telling them they need to budget accordingly so that they never run out of money to do cam after the RENT is due...LOL

LaylaLovely
06-03-2015, 02:22 PM
Today... Isn't dead... But my connection is fucked up! Idk what's going on ??i have awesome connection but guys can't see me..not even in basic Skype shows...I'm lagging and pixelating on sm... On skype my screen goes in and out..and on other sites I go in and out screen goes blank??

kortneykay
06-04-2015, 01:21 AM
Today... Isn't dead... But my connection is fucked up! Idk what's going on ??i have awesome connection but guys can't see me..not even in basic Skype shows...I'm lagging and pixelating on sm... On skype my screen goes in and out..and on other sites I go in and out screen goes blank??

Could it be overheating or a memory issue? How's your CPU looking when this happens?

LaylaLovely
06-04-2015, 08:30 AM
I've come to a few conclusions...

I just recently installed Norton

My internet cord is pretty beat up but still intact....(once on another site this was the problem but it was more beat up)

I'm splitting to much and I need to upgrade my internet again ..even though it's really good

As far as my cpu idk what that is but I will google it and see if it's that ...thnk u!!
I will be disabling my Norton to see if that was the issue as well today
On sm ranking page the top and third one where " below average" and the middle one was " excellent"
On you encoder where you copy and paste the link the number was at like 90 idk if that's ur placement number but I've never had that number (naidlive90)

LoraDoll
06-04-2015, 09:50 AM
that s all i ve made in my afternoon shift. just like yesterday. not amazed.http://media.giphy.com/media/kcAz4pqDIN0Qg/giphy.gif

LoraDoll
06-04-2015, 09:51 AM
that s happened, it can t be true. :D

PrettyInPunk
06-04-2015, 11:04 AM
Apparently SM's silence last night has carried over to this morning. Crickets since I logged on almost two hours ago, with nothing but lurkers to keep me company in the quiet. Awesome.

Prussia
06-04-2015, 09:22 PM
This week has been an absolute DEBACLE in terms of traffic and glitches on SM.

KimKlass
06-05-2015, 05:56 AM
I don't think I've ever hated MFC as much as I do currently. Fuuuuck. I grow weary of logging on and having the room ignore me. What is with that??

Issabelle
06-05-2015, 06:08 AM
It's dead as fuck on SM. I'm staying the fuck on, but $73 in just shy of 3 hours? Fuck me! And the last two hours has been like $20 total. Mehhhh. PICK UP CAM!

pippapippa
06-05-2015, 06:10 AM
Camming sucks because I suddenly caught a terrible cold and eventually had to decide to log off after an hour. Getting up to constantly blow my nose and having customers tell me to rest because I'm so obviously sick is not worth it. Not to mention the fact that my voice is a big draw for a lot of my customers and I can barely talk right now... At least I made thirty dollars. But fuck it, I'll rest today and try to make up to for it tomorrow.

Procrasturbator
06-05-2015, 06:17 AM
Apparently today is the day that regulars waste my fucking time. Shit or get off the pot! My god.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-05-2015, 06:21 AM
Apparently today is the day that regulars waste my fucking time. Shit or get off the pot! My god.

Think im gonna put this one back in rotation. Thanks

SuperPookie
06-05-2015, 07:43 AM
Well I just had surgery so probably won't be able to can for a month or so so I'm going to lose the few regulars I've gotten :(.

QueenBitch
06-05-2015, 08:30 AM
3 hours and $0 on sm. FML.

kitty_frost
06-05-2015, 11:36 AM
3 hours on SM yesterday with people only staying long enough to tell me my feed was crap.

half an hour on today and already I've had to deal with too many fucktards who wont pay.

And my one regular came into my room, talked a bit, and left! fuck me, I need money!

doublerainbow
06-05-2015, 11:05 PM
... because even when it ROCKS, you still need your stupid internet to not disconnect OVER AND OVER AGAIN DURING A SHOW to reap any of its benefits. I <3 you camming, but fuck you at&t. Fuck you in the ass.

DancesWithSloths
06-06-2015, 07:44 AM
Just about able to not burst into tears in free chat, but it's not working so well. I need £500 by Thursday or my student lian payment will bounce.

41842

DancesWithSloths
06-06-2015, 11:27 AM
Just about able to not burst into tears in free chat, but it's not working so well. I need £500 by Thursday or my student lian payment will bounce.

41842

It won't let me edit the post, but things have picked up a bit in my 5th hour online. Still below goal, but at least not very far any more. Stay the fuck on, girls.

euro_princess
06-06-2015, 04:28 PM
I'm close to break the fucking screen!!! Wtf, SM. Like really?!?!?!?! I can even express how frustrated I am now.

DancesWithSloths
06-06-2015, 04:46 PM
OMFG, whatttt? Half an hour before cut off, my placement crashes to page eleventy! WHAT?

euro_princess
06-06-2015, 04:51 PM
OMFG, whatttt? Half an hour before cut off, my placement crashes to page eleventy! WHAT?

Had problems too. My ms went huuuge. Omg. Thank God the week is close to end. I want to smash everything now!!! My relationship with SM goes from love to I WANT TO FUCKING STAB YOU MULTIPLE TIMES!

SaraLaughs
06-07-2015, 12:43 AM
*screaming*

Okay, so the last few months on SM have been good for me. I've kept semi-consistent hours, made a bunch of new customers, was hovering around $25-$40/hour, lowest days were like $18-$20. Generally being productive on weeks where I don't have a bunch of vanilla work to do.

For the last week and a half or so it has been fucking brutal. I've dropped to earning $2.50-$5/hour some days, with no good days to balance it out. I've tried resetting encoder settings (but my stream is almost always flawless when I check it and customers do), working different hours, changing hustles, starting catastrophic gold shows, started offering new things, cast my net over at reddit and on twitter (promoting cammodels link), working every single day I can, as long hours as I can muster. I've tried my hand at the other camsites I'm on (but haven't had the chance to build up a client base on), NiteFlirt. I'm losing my mind. Haven't broken $20/hour any day this week. Hell, I've barely broken $10. I used to get a steady flow of traffic too, nothing crazy but at minimum I'd have one guy or two guys in my room at any given time, now I'm going sometimes 10-15 minutes without getting a peeker.

HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE. How... HOW? It is so effing scary to lose your income like that. Any tips for me ladies? I somewhat brought this upon myself, by not diversifying and making clients on other sites or indie. Still, I kind of need money now, like right now, my rent isn't even fully paid off for the month and I hate it.

sweetgapeach
06-07-2015, 01:24 AM
^^Its the same for me Sara. I wanna believe that it will straighten out on SM, as it always does. I realize that that is no consolation on your rent. I think maybe with SM combining with Kink...maybe they are messing with the programming or something of the site. It is always like this when they are doing something with it. I cant give you help on the bill part, but the general freaking out about SM...it is common to go from great hourly to sucky hourly sometimes.

SaraLaughs
06-07-2015, 03:44 AM
Honestly, just knowing I'm not alone is helpful, and I appreciate it. BIG HUGS. Holy shit does it suck to work for no money.

And I've had bad stretches like this before, but there's usually one or two good days/deep pocketed customers to balance out the shit. Even my regs aren't on! Hopefully tomorrow or Monday the clouds will part and money shall pour forth. It's hard to get optimistic about 'tomorrow' over and over again though. :(

SoloDesire
06-07-2015, 06:52 AM
Try not to stress it too much Sara...every year around summer time this happens to many of us. We have weeks, sometimes several in a row, that make us feel like camming is dying. It's just a slow time in this business. Best just to do your best to stay positive and not let them see you freak out. I know, easier said than done. But you'll make more money if you can overcome that panic. A lot of us are already experiencing the summer slumps. Hang in there! It will get better!

anonymous camgirl
06-07-2015, 09:47 AM
you know what is funny though? before the recession and before SM? I used to bank in the summer time.. I used to make double my income.. so maybe it's a sm thing if it's your main site?...LOL.. because that was my good months for 5 yrs in a row!.. but now there aren't as many cam sites anymore.. maybe it's the kind of customers that SM mostly attracts?? maybe they have more of the very young crowd than other sites??.. I dunno really.. but that's my history... 2009 and on summer sucks and sm has been my main site since then.


Try not to stress it too much Sara...every year around summer time this happens to many of us. We have weeks, sometimes several in a row, that make us feel like camming is dying. It's just a slow time in this business. Best just to do your best to stay positive and not let them see you freak out. I know, easier said than done. But you'll make more money if you can overcome that panic. A lot of us are already experiencing the summer slumps. Hang in there! It will get better!

SaraLaughs
06-07-2015, 09:55 AM
Try not to stress it too much Sara...every year around summer time this happens to many of us. We have weeks, sometimes several in a row, that make us feel like camming is dying. It's just a slow time in this business. Best just to do your best to stay positive and not let them see you freak out. I know, easier said than done. But you'll make more money if you can overcome that panic. A lot of us are already experiencing the summer slumps. Hang in there! It will get better!

Thank you lovely! Yeah, I seem to recall quite a few weeks last summer where the money was hard to come by. I'm a sucker for heartbreak, but I'm hoping for all of us it remains semi-consistent this year.

Yesterday/today (what's a 'normal' sleep schedule anyways?) was a big improvement, so I have hope. I turned up the charm and hustle to 11. Time to get some rest and do it all over again. Hopefully SM remains sweet on me after I've had some R&R! Good luck to all of you beautiful people today! *gently blows cam dust*

Kitcatt
06-07-2015, 10:16 AM
Caming sucks because after a wonderful 2 week vacation I came home to find out that my internet company hasn't fixed my "intermittent issues" and they've gotten so bad that I can't even run a speed test for my upload speed because it jut freezes. I've ordered a secondary carrier but until it's installed in a week I have zero idea if my internet will be working from one day to the next. Ugh. I could barely afford the two weeks out and now I'm in full panic attack mode.

pippapippa
06-08-2015, 09:35 AM
Camming sucks because I was really sick all weekend (couldn't get out of bed and didn't eat for two days) and I tried to make it online today and only managed two shitty hours and $77, which is not an amount I'm happy with. I feel like I'm about to collapse. Really hoping tomorrow I'll feel better and can actually make some money.

Susperia
06-08-2015, 09:19 PM
Worst Day ever on SM....4 hours and $57....WTF, I just want to cry.

SaraLaughs
06-09-2015, 04:47 PM
Wow, today (and yesterday) sucks again. Back to $5-$10/hour. Working any hour I can, trying to hustle up some money, and all I'm getting is a few very short (1-2 minute) privates. Haven't had a day off in a week and a half between cam and vanilla, but I feel like my situation really hasn't improved by much. I only had one decent day in the last 7.

I'm usually pretty understanding/able to deal with bad streaks, but I'm starting to really struggle. 'Staying the fuck on' is yielding little to no results. I'm trying to keep cool, hydrated, clean, and smiling, but nothing seems to make up for how demoralized I feel.

Susperia
06-09-2015, 04:56 PM
Wow, today (and yesterday) sucks again. Back to $5-$10/hour. Working any hour I can, trying to hustle up some money, and all I'm getting is a few very short (1-2 minute) privates. Haven't had a day off in a week and a half between cam and vanilla, but I feel like my situation really hasn't improved by much. I only had one decent day in the last 7.

I'm usually pretty understanding/able to deal with bad streaks, but I'm starting to really struggle. 'Staying the fuck on' is yielding little to no results. I'm trying to keep cool, hydrated, clean, and smiling, but nothing seems to make up for how demoralized I feel.

This was how my day went yesterday! Exactly....1-2 minute privates....$5-$10 an hour.......a revolving door of in and outs with very few talkers. Kept logging on at different times hoping things would pick up....and they didn't. Mondays usually rock for me and this was just hideous....I'm afraid to sign on tonight after last night's debacle.

I think something is going on with SM.....there are alot of girls having the same complaints. Come on SM fix your fucking shit, we got money to make and bills to pay.

SaraLaughs
06-09-2015, 05:03 PM
It's good to know I'm not the only one- that my placement tanked, or my feed sucks or something. I don't get it, I've barely seen any of my regs. It's gotten to the point where I'm pretty desperate for any show, and I'm sure dudes can tell when I try to push them in the direction of private chat. So many bait-and-switches lately as well.

Keep breathing I guess. SOMEONE must be out there who'll like what I have. At least that's what I keep telling myself.

Susperia
06-09-2015, 05:11 PM
It's good to know I'm not the only one- that my placement tanked, or my feed sucks or something. I don't get it, I've barely seen any of my regs. It's gotten to the point where I'm pretty desperate for any show, and I'm sure dudes can tell when I try to push them in the direction of private chat. So many bait-and-switches lately as well.

Keep breathing I guess. SOMEONE must be out there who'll like what I have. At least that's what I keep telling myself.

Again, same thing with me.....my regs were no where to be found yesterday...except for the cheapskate ones....then one came in and complained about my rates being too high and left....when he actually played with me at the same rate about a month ago....fucking bastard. I hope tonight is better for us all....

SaraLaughs
06-09-2015, 05:43 PM
For any of you ladies struggling, here's my DTO from SM. You're definitely not alone.

This is my worst week on record by far.

http://i.imgur.com/OzsCh7U.png?1

sweetgapeach
06-09-2015, 06:23 PM
Sara...I really try to be care free, happy, not focusing on the money when I cam. I try to not be pushy into buying shows. I have never wanted to seem desperate, even when I was/am. Last night...I caved. Like I always say...sm please send me some traffic if my room dies off...maybe i am crazy but it seems to work. Last night, with four new people in the room...I said....I really need a captain save a ho to at least make my minimum nightly goal...and swoosh off to private for enough to get me 3/4 way to normal goal.

Maybe just ask? (if you dont) idk just change up something and try not to be discouraged.

SaraLaughs
06-09-2015, 06:31 PM
I appreciate your advice hun. I really do. I just begged to the cam gods to send me some relief. Can't hurt right?

My traffic is abhorrent right now. Probably because I've gone from being consistently in 25% paid to well... what I posted lol. Getting one guy in my room like every 5 minutes. I wish I got the chance to ask. Best of luck to you ladies. I'm here if any of y'all want to chat through PM!