View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
PrincessfromHell
06-10-2015, 11:59 AM
Just joined SM to see how it is there my first day today. Wow so pathetic for me. I get better traffic on Imdead (I mean new guys aside the regs even though all other gals are screaming it is dead and compare to good days it is)
But SM is even worse for me, I have spent like 2h to figure about encoder and etc...I can't see how other gals are making so much money there.
Normally novelty is kinda popular I have made over 200 during my first day on imdead given those 90 mins per 0-98
SM sucks for me, I will be back again and again...chins up ofc
But again wow wow peanuts...I am lost in words...
EDIT: sreaming out loud indeed....
*screaming*
Okay, so the last few months on SM have been good for me. I've kept semi-consistent hours, made a bunch of new customers, was hovering around $25-$40/hour, lowest days were like $18-$20. Generally being productive on weeks where I don't have a bunch of vanilla work to do.
For the last week and a half or so it has been fucking brutal. I've dropped to earning $2.50-$5/hour some days, with no good days to balance it out. I've tried resetting encoder settings (but my stream is almost always flawless when I check it and customers do), working different hours, changing hustles, starting catastrophic gold shows, started offering new things, cast my net over at reddit and on twitter (promoting cammodels link), working every single day I can, as long hours as I can muster. I've tried my hand at the other camsites I'm on (but haven't had the chance to build up a client base on), NiteFlirt. I'm losing my mind. Haven't broken $20/hour any day this week. Hell, I've barely broken $10. I used to get a steady flow of traffic too, nothing crazy but at minimum I'd have one guy or two guys in my room at any given time, now I'm going sometimes 10-15 minutes without getting a peeker.
HOW IS THIS EVEN POSSIBLE. How... HOW? It is so effing scary to lose your income like that. Any tips for me ladies? I somewhat brought this upon myself, by not diversifying and making clients on other sites or indie. Still, I kind of need money now, like right now, my rent isn't even fully paid off for the month and I hate it.
HELPINSANDIEGO
06-10-2015, 03:05 PM
WHy does SM have the most unhelpful support? I have asked them several questions (yes, I read the manual) and they never answer my question, but never hesitate to lecture me on shit I already can find in the manual. God forbid I have a question about something in the manual.
I literally was just told in an email that I "Need to pay attention to what was sent." when I explained they did not answer my question and wanted clarification. In fact, I asked the question in 3 different ways and they still didnt answer my question.
Ready to cancel my account. When we only getting 35 cents on the dollar, they should be kissing our asses.
HELPINSANDIEGO
06-10-2015, 03:05 PM
WHy does SM have the most unhelpful support? I have asked them several questions (yes, I read the manual) and they never answer my question, but never hesitate to lecture me on shit I already can find in the manual. God forbid I have a question about something in the manual.
I literally was just told in an email that I "Need to pay attention to what was sent." when I explained they did not answer my question and wanted clarification. In fact, I asked the question in 3 different ways and they still didnt answer my question.
Ready to cancel my account. When we only getting 35 cents on the dollar, they should be kissing our asses.
DancesWithSloths
06-11-2015, 08:48 AM
OMG, kill me. I haven't hit $100 since Sunday, never mind the £100/day I need. If it wasn't for my regs, I'd be sunk completely.
Blovely
06-11-2015, 06:01 PM
WHy does SM have the most unhelpful support? I have asked them several questions (yes, I read the manual) and they never answer my question, but never hesitate to lecture me on shit I already can find in the manual. God forbid I have a question about something in the manual.
I literally was just told in an email that I "Need to pay attention to what was sent." when I explained they did not answer my question and wanted clarification. In fact, I asked the question in 3 different ways and they still didnt answer my question.
Ready to cancel my account. When we only getting 35 cents on the dollar, they should be kissing our asses.
I feel like most times its better to ask questions here. The girls give better support than SM. If I can't find an answer here by asking or searching then I'll go to support.
euro_princess
06-11-2015, 07:58 PM
Camming sucks cause I don't know what to do. I'm tired of my studio. I get no respect from them. But I have 25,000 at my favs and I make at least 2k per week. Not to mention that I would have to wait 6 months to start over. I'm so confused right now and somehow...hurt for being treated like crap. :(
LaylaLovely
06-11-2015, 08:47 PM
Maybe start an account on another website and work part time (while still working ur studio account) then see if you can make close to the same amount then leave and keep working on the new site and come back to sm make your new account and go part time again until you gain back the same momentum/earnings
and if this all doesn't work you don't lose anything because you won't give up your sm studio account to begin with
ArtsyScarlett
06-12-2015, 06:20 AM
Camming sucks cause I don't know what to do. I'm tired of my studio. I get no respect from them. But I have 25,000 at my favs and I make at least 2k per week. Not to mention that I would have to wait 6 months to start over. I'm so confused right now and somehow...hurt for being treated like crap. :(
I just wanted to say, I think I know who you are, and if I am right you are awesome at what you do!
Seriously studios suck big time and I am really glad you are realizing that I remember not too long ago you were defending your studio in a thread, but it is hard to do when you are earning them hundred of dollars a week and they are offering a service you could provide yourself! And when you earn someone that much, it is really shitty for them to hold your livelihood over your head and not allow you to leave and do what is best for you, it actually make me a little sick. :-(
I agree with LaylaLovely get on some other sites (maybe MFC would work well for you) and then get out of there when you can. The quicker you leave the quicker you can get back, as for the favourites maybe message KatyBoleyn as I know they have some option in which there studio (a dailypay one) can transfer favourites she is very helpful and might be able to help out.
I really hope you can get it sorted.
Anyway on a more thread relevant note:
Camming sucks because SkyPrivate suspended my account for a fraud case and now are not responding to me and I just want to get it sorted as I have other (potentially!) non-fraud customers who want to Skype me. :-(
hyori
06-12-2015, 08:02 AM
Camming sucks cause I don't know what to do. I'm tired of my studio. I get no respect from them. But I have 25,000 at my favs and I make at least 2k per week. Not to mention that I would have to wait 6 months to start over. I'm so confused right now and somehow...hurt for being treated like crap. :(
I'm 100% sure you would rock on the token sites like CB and MFC since you're a gold show girl. I know a girl who used to do specifically gold shows only and then I encouraged her to try out MFC and Holy Mary Mother of God, she went from making $400 in 6 hours to $1000 in the same amount of time on average...you heard me, $1000 is her daily average.
Issabelle
06-12-2015, 08:13 AM
Hugs Euro! I'm sorry the studio situation has you stressed and I second trying out token sites. You'd kick ass on MFC and if you already have a twitter, it's easy to bring your guys over. If not, well, maybe casually tell them to add you on Twitter on SM right before you close your account? Don't tell them where you're going, but maybe advertise 'hey, add me on Twitter to get updates on when I'm going to be online!'
I'm going to go back to MFC in a few weeks for a long, proper try. If you want a buddy to commiserate with, I'm happy to join you.
LaylaLovely
06-12-2015, 09:18 AM
When your job isn't taken seriously because it's "Sex Work" .....yet your the one paying all the FUCKING bills!!!
I'm sure if I was making the same amount $$ as a RN (like I originally was going to school for) you'd respect me more ...but I'll never know since ur an inconsiderate person.
.....idk it's so hard not being able to vent to any one or even in the forum due to trolls... I'm at my wits end!
SM_CamGirl
06-12-2015, 01:07 PM
SM its a desert for me today... and yesterday and the day before yesterday... im sad =(
SimoneGray
06-12-2015, 01:16 PM
Camming sucks cause I don't know what to do. I'm tired of my studio. I get no respect from them. But I have 25,000 at my favs and I make at least 2k per week. Not to mention that I would have to wait 6 months to start over. I'm so confused right now and somehow...hurt for being treated like crap. :(
Trust me, if you make $2k a week at a studio you will EASILY make way more than that without them. Find other private based sites in the meantime if token sites aren't your thing. But they are also cool. Start now and then when the money is coming in elsewhere, quit your studio. PM me if you need anything, I also left one of the worst studios out there not so long ago so I know what this is like.
PrettyInPunk
06-12-2015, 02:03 PM
I've got an all day cam session going on right now and SM is so dead. I don't know how much longer I can do this. I hate days when my regulars are gone because it's always so quiet. You guys have me a bit curious about MFC, though, after reading these previous comments. I usually make about $3-400 a week, $500 if I really work my ass off. The thought of making $1000 a DAY is making me do grabby hands. At least with how quiet it is, I'm able to do some research into the site!
Blovely
06-12-2015, 10:51 PM
Current mood......
http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111116144244/harrypotter/images/f/f4/20110827-js-hpdhp2-voldemorts-death.gif
Been on 4 hour still waiting for it to pick up. SM you're killing my vibe right now.
pippapippa
06-12-2015, 10:54 PM
^^ Seriously. This is miserable.
badcompany
06-12-2015, 11:12 PM
Stayed on SM for exactly an hour and zero shows. My traffic was so bad I just had to pack it in for the night. What a waste.
badcompany
06-12-2015, 11:14 PM
When I think I look hot I don't make jack shit
doublerainbow
06-12-2015, 11:47 PM
I'm always so glad to be able to come here and see that it wasn't just slow for me on any given night. This forum seriously saves the sanity. <3 Take heart ladies, it'll pick up again.
euro_princess
06-13-2015, 05:38 AM
I don't even know who to answer first! Everybody was so supportive. I really appreciate it. Virtual group hug!!! I tried MFC, was ok, not actually my type of website because you have to wait forever until somebody decides to tip you, compared to SM who has a timer. I remember I was doing like $60/per hour, compared to SM were I make almost double. For some reason I didn't have the patience to build a "community" of members over there, because I was always relating on SM, where no matter how bad is, I end up making more than decent. I quitted after a few days, because...because...lazy. I think, I was actually afraid not to fail and felt uncomfortable.
The major problem with the studio was that I am always being too nice when I ask for something and my bosses are used to a lot of drama. So that's what I did, drama, huge drama. I wanted them to help me shut down some fake profiles on social media, and they said those profiles might actually give me traffic. Say what?!?!?!?!?!?! So somebody pretending is me was cool for them. Not to mention people from my native city found me over there and was a major problem that needed quick fix! I managed to get a few ones down by reporting them, but I still have two left (the biggest ones) that they don't want to delete, even if I emailed them a pic with my face and my ID. After I found those profiles, I realized why people said they talked to me on FB and I promised them free shows. Yeah, that's how I got from zero to hero, with those guys. Suuure!
During time I had a lot of fights with the owner of the studio, because she wants me to do things in her way and I'm not obedient at all. She either had a problem with me doing GS and not too many pvts, without realizing that I started focusing on that type of shows because my rates were 2.99 with 4.49 and they didn't want to rise them. Or me being close to my trainer or me getting along well with some of the producers. And the list keeps going on.
I told them this is the last time when I accept something, next time I won't make no scandal, I'll leave without an explanation. And I am aware would be better to start on my own, but I'm scared right now, I feel like I can't afford to fail, because I worked so hard for my goals and I am close to get what I want. I got in this industry by mistake and I had no goal at first, but with time I realized I can actually do something with the money, more school, get my own place, help my parents, finally have those little and non-sense things that I was dreaming about when I used to live with $200 per month. Why I always have to be so emotional?!
Anyway, thank you again for all, was like somebody had my back! Awww. <3
Issabelle
06-13-2015, 08:14 AM
<3 <3 <3 back girl. If not token sites, I think you also have enough customers to do full time indy camming, clip sales, etc. for a few months. I think you could really make six months away from SM fly by and it would serve the assholes running your studio right for the way they treat you! Honestly, telling their top grossing model that she's hustling wrong is about where they lost me, lol. Granted, if you're super close to being able to meet all your goals and leave camming anyway, I can see why you wouldn't be interested in rocking the boat. Whatever the case, you're right--we'll have your back if you need to vent. :)
Glamourmilf
06-13-2015, 10:38 AM
I really hate posting in here, but after the last 2 nights on cam, ... here I am.
How in bloody hell can I go from being the 'belle of the ball' from Sunday-Wednesday, then have little to no customers in my chat rooms on Thursday and Friday?? I don't get it.
If I didn't have a quota fo myself, I never would have stayed on and toughed it out.
The second I logged on last night, a reg popped in and asked me if I would be on at 1 a.m. since he was at work and couldn't buy a show right then. I said yes because I thought my night would be busy enough that I would be there.(That was at 6 p.m.)
But it was dismal, just dismal.
Logged off after 3 hours, and then went back on when that custie said he was coming back.
All I got were a bunch of beggars and rude guys, which I seldom get.
No sign of my custie, but then a really good reg came in to save the night. Still was way below what I needed to make.
hope today is better.
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doublerainbow
06-13-2015, 11:03 AM
Whenever it gets this slow, like it is today, I instantly begin wondering what glitch is fucking with my feed now. Hahaha, it couldn't possibly just be low traffic, dudes with no money or - gasp! - me not being anyone's type today. Nope, tech difficulties are the only possibility.
Guess it's better to have an overabundance of confidence than a lack of it.
**note: My feed is black when I check on my phone, though, so quite possibly. X3 Somebody wanna check for me?
kitte
06-13-2015, 03:56 PM
I hate it when another model begs you to come to their room while your chatting with customers. Like whats the point of coming into your room if you came inside my room? I don't have a customer account to type in his room anyways. I keep getting this cam boy coming into my room every other month, complaining about how he really isn't attracted to any of his customers, and he gets so pissy when I don't come to his room. All he wants to talk about is things about my personal life and complain about the site. I come to SW to vent, not in my cam room. lol rant over.
anonymous camgirl
06-13-2015, 04:02 PM
I had to get a NEW water heater a few days ago.. right before it was going to end.. say bye bye to $785!!
Mercury is in retrograde and it makes electronics all screwy. I have issues with my computer/cam/TV ANYTHING on a daily basis since it began on the 18th lol
Blovely
06-13-2015, 05:06 PM
Real though SM????? $64 for 5 hours. You couldn't let me make $183? That's all I needed.
http://img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20131009001234/degrassi/images/a/a9/Dean-is-annoyed.gif
http://33.media.tumblr.com/0d20444135534bb94fd1d65db6370a2d/tumblr_ml6jen8eie1s9j8ldo1_500.gif
doublerainbow
06-13-2015, 05:35 PM
Shit, so the goal in a goldshow isn't our cut? I mean, now that I've stopped to think about it that makes sense since the buy-in is in the customer's amounts and not net, but damn... I just made a lot less than I thought I did for my first GS. -_-
Diva$
06-13-2015, 06:00 PM
Hey there... here's some more corruption and fuck up shit from a Vegas local. Maybe this should be more of a warning for all the working girls.
There is this guy ARIANI DANIELS and he is a piece of shit!! He's been prowling local websites, looking for prey. Listen up ladies in #LasVegas, HE IS AN EVIL CREEP.....And that is not even his real name.... He is a CRIMINAL and very DANGEROUS. His profile on SA is TravelGuy2Fly, lame, with 20year old pics on the site. Total CATFISHING with him. He does not look like his pics!! He looks like life raped his ass hole everyday since he was born!!! Don't get fooled with the charm, its deceptive and deceitful. He will show you pictures of family, celebrities he knows and even his dog...do not believe him!! He is a CRACKHEAD!! He WILL drug you and rape you!!!!! He needs to go back to jail where he came from. He spent time in prison for racketeering, money laundering and human sex trafficking. He is NO GOOD!! You have been warned. He even has a small penis...its SOOO SMALL!!! LOL!!! What a joke!!! No game at all...with such a small penis he should be locked up in prison getting raped all day!! He WILL steal from you!! If your a sugar daddy why would you steal from me??!?!?! He doesn't even have money!!! He is so broke!! Google him... complete LOSER!!! He'll say he is a business man...not even...he is in the business of being a criminal. Even his own mama should disown him!! I'm doing this to warn all you females!! If I ever see him again I will call the cops right away!! Please repost this everywhere!!!
pippapippa
06-13-2015, 10:12 PM
I feel like I'd be less bored at the DMV right now.
doublerainbow
06-13-2015, 10:20 PM
I feel like I'd be less bored at the DMV right now.
holy shit I genuinely busted out laughing from this. Especially with your siggy right under XD
AliceFun
06-14-2015, 02:53 AM
^^^ That gif is soo disgustingly ugly lol
KarinaGiselle
06-15-2015, 05:12 PM
Dat gif tho XD
pippapippa
06-15-2015, 07:29 PM
Dat gif tho XD
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It's from Broad City, if anyone's curious.
LoraDoll
06-16-2015, 10:32 PM
seems it sucks this morning, but i dont care lol. at least i m not gonna be tired, and my "lady part" not gonna be too tortured. sitting here and relaxing is fine enought right now lol.
I ll do my first 4 hours, and it s their problem, if they miss me. :D thats how i think today. :*
(i m willing to work, but cheapos and only short privates yet. fuck it lol)
anonymous camgirl
06-17-2015, 01:22 PM
God I hate summer time.. to many trolls, and teens online.. broke asses, deadbeats... and probably cam girls who hop on in the summertime while they are on break from school or work or whatever!... it sucks for us full timers!... .. I am so fricken annoyed fighting for the dolla bills...LOL..... when will it be fall..
SoloDesire
06-17-2015, 07:10 PM
Wow, what a week!! Streamate why are you so hot and cold? I had a record breaking week last week...now this week I haven't made a goal any day this week! C'mon!! Not seeing my regs this week has put a real hurting on my income...now I'm just dealing with these assholes who come in and out of my room without saying a word and ignore me when I speak to them :(
ArtsyScarlett
06-17-2015, 08:23 PM
Wow, what a week!! Streamate why are you so hot and cold? I had a record breaking week last week...now this week I haven't made a goal any day this week! C'mon!! Not seeing my regs this week has put a real hurting on my income...now I'm just dealing with these assholes who come in and out of my room without saying a word and ignore me when I speak to them :(
Holy shit, are you in my brain! Literally would have posted this verbatim. Why do they bother even making accounts?!
SweetNSouthern
06-17-2015, 08:30 PM
Not much going on for me, so I'm just on Twitter lol...I made a little today, but not goal :(
doublerainbow
06-17-2015, 09:07 PM
I'm so scared to be online right now hearing all of this.... and no shows in the half hour since I logged in (aside from one little below-30-sec guy who must have been super bummed to not get boobs lol).. seems the slow period is still going strong. BUT! At least I'm online. -_-
doublerainbow
06-17-2015, 10:16 PM
Update: holy shit is it SLOW...
Arwen25
06-18-2015, 07:26 AM
Oh mer gerd today is shockingly bad lol.
I think the longest private I have had so far lasted 4 minutes and he was clearly wanking frantically before entering to get it done with..his request came in so fast I think he must have it all copied out ready..*sigh* Soldier on girls, it'll get better!
doublerainbow
06-18-2015, 01:38 PM
Wasn't sure where else to post this, I'm bummed right now! I actually had someone very into a pvt show with me, then he wanted c2c so we decided to switch to excl. Well right before he left pvt, someone else came in. I saw this first guy leave... and come back to guest chat for like a minute while I try to explain to this guy in pvt that he can come back after my excl show. He's not typing shit, just sitting there while I do nothing but try to figure out how to exit a show... I finally decide to kick him and ask him to come back again when I'm available.
Right as I return to guest chat, mr excl leaves and doesn't come back. Neither does mr pvt. I'm so sad... I just said "no thanks" to money during a super slow period. T_T
anonymous camgirl
06-18-2015, 01:49 PM
yea that sucks! and happens all the time..
Wasn't sure where else to post this, I'm bummed right now! I actually had someone very into a pvt show with me, then he wanted c2c so we decided to switch to excl. Well right before he left pvt, someone else came in. I saw this first guy leave... and come back to guest chat for like a minute while I try to explain to this guy in pvt that he can come back after my excl show. He's not typing shit, just sitting there while I do nothing but try to figure out how to exit a show... I finally decide to kick him and ask him to come back again when I'm available.
Right as I return to guest chat, mr excl leaves and doesn't come back. Neither does mr pvt. I'm so sad... I just said "no thanks" to money during a super slow period. T_T
Susperia
06-18-2015, 06:11 PM
Wasn't sure where else to post this, I'm bummed right now! I actually had someone very into a pvt show with me, then he wanted c2c so we decided to switch to excl. Well right before he left pvt, someone else came in. I saw this first guy leave... and come back to guest chat for like a minute while I try to explain to this guy in pvt that he can come back after my excl show. He's not typing shit, just sitting there while I do nothing but try to figure out how to exit a show... I finally decide to kick him and ask him to come back again when I'm available.
Right as I return to guest chat, mr excl leaves and doesn't come back. Neither does mr pvt. I'm so sad... I just said "no thanks" to money during a super slow period. T_T
Yeah, that's happened to me before. Or you about to go EXCL with your fave reg who spends lots of time with you and some one minute asshole swoops in and steals you away from him and your fave reg never returns. I hate that shit, and yeah makes me sad too....especially since I enjoy my sessions with that particular reg.
Cutie101
06-18-2015, 06:11 PM
Wtf is going on tonight????
It's slow as shit!!
I've been online for almost 4 hours and made 0!!!!!
And last thursday I made almost $300 in less than 2 hours!!!With same scheldue!
I can't even take a night off only by supposing is slow and won't make nothing because 2 days are not the same nowadays!
It sucks so bad! And this is adding to my frustration when I try to think wich day to take off on a regular basis!
Camming sucks!
>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(
doublerainbow
06-18-2015, 08:47 PM
UGGGHHHHfirjgireiojrio!! Can I just say... fucking idiot assholes who talk so much shit about wanting a show, getting you all excited for a big excl, then bailing... ARE. THE. WORST!
I wouldn't give a shit if they popped in and out of my room all night if it weren't for these fuckers. I can ignore guys popping in and out. Not gonna have a show? Too expensive for you? Fucking fine, it doesn't hurt me at all. But leading me on... that's what leads to burnout and not wanting to work anymore. Wasting energy getting excited and mentally preparing for a show then oh, nvm.
anonymous camgirl
06-19-2015, 08:07 AM
And then you get caught up in the cycle of never having a day off:(... I haven't had a proper day off since March 8th
Wtf is going on tonight????
It's slow as shit!!
I've been online for almost 4 hours and made 0!!!!!
And last thursday I made almost $300 in less than 2 hours!!!With same scheldue!
I can't even take a night off only by supposing is slow and won't make nothing because 2 days are not the same nowadays!
It sucks so bad! And this is adding to my frustration when I try to think wich day to take off on a regular basis!
Camming sucks!
>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(>:(
Marina Starr
06-19-2015, 10:11 AM
Camming doesn't suck... I suck: my hips, my legs, my thighs, my ass, my noise, my head hurts so bad. Everything hurts and it's Friday.
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IvyRose
06-19-2015, 12:33 PM
UGGGHHHHfirjgireiojrio!! Can I just say... fucking idiot assholes who talk so much shit about wanting a show, getting you all excited for a big excl, then bailing... ARE. THE. WORST!
I wouldn't give a shit if they popped in and out of my room all night if it weren't for these fuckers. I can ignore guys popping in and out. Not gonna have a show? Too expensive for you? Fucking fine, it doesn't hurt me at all. But leading me on... that's what leads to burnout and not wanting to work anymore. Wasting energy getting excited and mentally preparing for a show then oh, nvm.
AT least they are talking to you
ARGH, all my regs have fanished, and only getting silent guys in my free chat. Its draining my energy hard to just sit and smile or having pretend convos. My hourly has dropped with 70%.
anonymous camgirl
06-19-2015, 12:47 PM
Why? what's wrong? I can fix you.. haha
Camming doesn't suck... I suck: my hips, my legs, my thighs, my ass, my noise, my head hurts so bad. Everything hurts and it's Friday.
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