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italianstarcamgirl
12-13-2012, 09:56 PM
wow I took a week off and my placement took a huge hit - I don't even ubderstand why. Streamate is sucking tonight and there are models on the front page I've never seen before - I wonder if streamate is having tech issues or if everyone is just on trying to earn Xmas money.

SarahTime
12-13-2012, 10:00 PM
wow I took a week off and my placement took a huge hit - I don't even ubderstand why. Streamate is sucking tonight and there are models on the front page I've never seen before - I wonder if streamate is having tech issues or if everyone is just on trying to earn Xmas money.

There's been lots of girls on the first page lately I've never seen before... especially the first 1-5 rows... I've noticed two KGB studio girls in #1 spots as well who are brand new...

italianstarcamgirl
12-13-2012, 10:22 PM
$490?

Ya, now that you say that Sarah I'm being pushed down by models I've never seen before. I worked really fkin hard for good placement - I'm super annoyed! I consistently earn decent $hourly

SarahTime
12-13-2012, 10:26 PM
$490?

Ya, now that you say that Sarah I'm being pushed down by models I've never seen before. I worked really fkin hard for good placement - I'm super annoyed! I consistently earn decent $hourly

You and me both!!!

I think she means $4.90

Vela Valentine
12-13-2012, 11:36 PM
An hour on Sm and nothing. An hour on MFC.... $2.25. Facepalm.

JustineSexton
12-13-2012, 11:54 PM
Don't give up Vela.. tomorrow is a new day. A good friend of mine in cam world once told me, when all else fails, just talk dirty. Some guy will get a hard on and spend money. :)

Melonie
12-14-2012, 03:33 AM
I've noticed two KGB studio girls in #1 spots as well who are brand new...

If you don't mind me asking, is this actually linked to a particular studio ... or studios in general ?

Marina Starr
12-14-2012, 07:06 AM
Awwww, I'm really sorry! I hope it picks up for you!


No, I mean 4.90 $ for 6 hours. It should be 490...

Cam_Model_Jess
12-14-2012, 07:16 AM
A person who shall remain nameless in one of the top slots last night was all-out dildoing herself in free chat for like 15 minutes. I have no idea if she thought she was in a show, but the guys were very clearly telling her she was in free chat but that they'd keep tipping b/c they felt bad (weirdness). Due to her association with a certain aforementioned studio, I'm going to assume she won't be getting suspended. But it makes me wonder if this is now the acceptable norm on the site, or if they just don't give a shit anymore, because every time I sign on now I've been just glancing at the the front 2 pages and there are at least six models getting fucked or dildoing themselves.

It's getting annoying. And I know we talk about whether or not it's really affecting our traffic and sales and all that. But considering how slow it's been in my room, I'm extra annoyed by it this week.

Marina Starr
12-14-2012, 07:20 AM
WOW, that's bad! I never get why girls give away their goodies for free!


A person who shall remain nameless in one of the top slots last night was all-out dildoing herself in free chat for like 15 minutes. I have no idea if she thought she was in a show, but the guys were very clearly telling her she was in free chat but that they'd keep tipping b/c they felt bad (weirdness). Due to her association with a certain aforementioned studio, I'm going to assume she won't be getting suspended. But it makes me wonder if this is now the acceptable norm on the site, or if they just don't give a shit anymore, because every time I sign on now I've been just glancing at the the front 2 pages and there are at least six models getting fucked or dildoing themselves.

It's getting annoying. And I know we talk about whether or not it's really affecting our traffic and sales and all that. But considering how slow it's been in my room, I'm extra annoyed by it this week.

CourtneyRaine
12-14-2012, 11:10 AM
I NEVER give the goodies for free. But, if I am in need of some fast cash I will do a cum show goal and will bare all in free chat once my goal is met.Maybe that's what you are seeing? But even that doesn't make sense, because that kind of thing isn't allowed on SM and I'm assuming that is the site we're talking about so...? *baffled*

Cam_Model_Jess
12-14-2012, 11:19 AM
^There are some girls who will do it for tips in free chat, thought they rarely seem to make more than a few dollars. There are some guys who will ONLY tip for shows that occur in free chat, probably b/c they know it's not allowed and therefore it's more exciting to get the model to do it in free chat. There are some models who will egg other models on to do things in free chat in order to get them banned. And... sometimes there's a site glitch and the model has no idea she's in free chat. However, if I had guys telling me I was in free chat, I would stop with the dildo and get dressed and sit there until the end of the show. If they wanna complain to SM, that would be fine with me. But apparently some girls just keep going b/c they're not sure what's going on.

It just bugs me more these days b/c people used to get suspended for it. That doesn't seem to be happening anymore. And I'm concerned that, with the gold shows and the TV shows, SM is starting to imitate MFC more. I don't want SM to become MFC, but it's leaning more and more that direction. If it gets bad, I will have to find a new site b/c I'm not willing to do public nude/cum shows.

justanothercamgirl
12-14-2012, 11:26 AM
I cannot even try Gold Show, because they didnīt give it to me. Do I have wait for years that I get it? I feel like they never give it to me. They even didnīt change and delete my pictures. If there is slow, so I have to stick my schedule and stay online. .

How I got my GOLD shows is that everytime some guy asked me to do a gold show I told them the sad story of how I don't have them and that they won't give them to me and that 'I heard a rumour that you have to have enough guys email support and tell them that I should have GOLD shows for me to have them.'

It worked for me!

CourtneyRaine
12-14-2012, 11:28 AM
^ Agreed. Tip based sites like mfc, chaturbate, etc are fine for that kind of thing, but if sm is supposedly a privates oriented site I wish they'd enforce the rules more. It also used to drive me crazy when I was on there.

StephanieXS
12-14-2012, 03:58 PM
This isn't a camming sucks issue but more of a life sucks one. I've been too sick to cam all week and I'll be out of town at my parents Monday thru Wednesday... UGH!! I just wanna feel well enough to cam!

SexyLittleThing
12-14-2012, 04:17 PM
Omg, it's SO, SO, SO slow today... And it's Friday. I will be happy if I get 20 bucks. Maybe it's because I upped my price? I only upped it for 1$ :-/.

SarahTime
12-14-2012, 07:23 PM
If you don't mind me asking, is this actually linked to a particular studio ... or studios in general ?

From what I have noticed.... this particular studio.

If you are logged in and check offline placement, the #1 and #2 girls are BRAND NEW girls in that studio. I haven't noticed any other studio being given such royal treatment....

Sasha Blackwolf
12-14-2012, 08:10 PM
I have been having the same issue. It has to have something to do with the site. It has to. I have been on SM for 2 years. I am on the front page and i have the exact same issues. We have no traffic due to some reason. That reason must be on their end.

italianstarcamgirl
12-14-2012, 08:52 PM
I think its a huge smack in the face from SM for the models that work hard to have their spots be taken by brand new models because they are with a certain studio - last night I seen a model in the third row with a horrible cam quality. I don't get it.

JustineSexton
12-14-2012, 10:00 PM
This is an interesting development if it's true.. as I've noticed lately that I am further down the page even though I'm doing good as ever... hmmmm, very interesting indeed.

Cam_Model_Jess
12-14-2012, 10:55 PM
Come on girls. This gets rehashed every few months. People get upset about studio models getting better placement, some models say no they don't. Some argue back yes they do. Nameless site owner denies the existence of KGB & swears studios don't get reserved spots or preferential placement. Yet if you go to that studio's site, the owners swear you get the best placement. (And obviously they exist.) then someone else says well they only pick better quality models, that's why the better placememt. On and on.

And honestly, you can't do anything about it regardless of what the truth is. I simply don't understand the fuss over being further down a row or two either. This isn't MFC & there are no cam scores. I make the same money whether I'm row 2 or 2nd page (the range I fluctuate in). There are so many variables. No offense to anyone meant. It's just that the studio placement thing is old news. Until you can pin down nameless site owner (& that will never happen), I don't think we'll get a straight answer.

italianstarcamgirl
12-14-2012, 11:48 PM
I did notice that the placement looks different if you are logged in to a members account - it used to look the same whether I was logged in or not - I get that some models have geo block but in regard to the ones that don't when I'm logged in some are before the others and vice versa....weird...

xobarbiexo
12-15-2012, 01:43 AM
I love the fact that there is a studio named KGB!! LMAO is it also in Russia?

BUT im super fucking pissed that everyone is on... UGH X-MAS is pissing me off, lol
I'm about to go Grinch

Via Flaminia
12-15-2012, 04:06 AM
Regarding KGB, I can't resist (and I'm not afraid~~ what's going to happen, right) ?

I grew up in "the business" so I know all about nepotism, connections, favoritism and all of the obnoxiousness of show business. I'm sure there are others here who know of this evil. :-)

The KGB stuff is par for the course. The KGB "guy" is a self-professed "friend of a Streamate producer." I don't like the cause and effect that I see, but it's reality and both parties (KGB and Streamate) clearly benefit (at least *right now*). The existing KGB/Streamate relationship - ahem - racket - is shoving good cam girls down the page. It's a real slap in the face because so many girls who are indie, long timers, etc. are really, really good. This sucks for so many reasons, but I have to remind myself that every business is like this. Soooo painful.

Not for 'nothin, but some of those KGB girls have staying power and others don't. These things usually take care of themselves.

Cam_Model_Jess
12-15-2012, 07:24 AM
Not for 'nothin, but some of those KGB girls have staying power and others don't. These things usually take care of themselves.

This is exactly it. It's like having a broken leg that gets set. It hurts real bad at first, then things start to right themselves. You swear at the crutches ;) But eventually you forget you had a broken leg at all until it rains. C'est la vie.

TheBrownFox
12-15-2012, 06:23 PM
For at least two of the cam sites I know of...today is the last day of the pay period. I hope you ladies kick some serious ass tonight on cam! :D Happy Saturday!

CourtneyRaine
12-16-2012, 12:22 PM
I make the same money whether I'm row 2 or 2nd page (the range I fluctuate in).

That's awesome! Sadly that has not been my experience at all, on SM or the site I'm on now. When I was mid first page on SM I was making $20-25/hour (mind you, it sounds low because I was with a crap studio and only got 20%). When I was mid row two I as literally only averaging $5/hour. Of course I quit.

On my new site I was doing really well at first, checked a few times and I was consistently in row 3-4. Then I got sick, when I was finally able to log in again I noticed I was doing a lot worse $ wise. Checked, I was down to row 8-9. Huge difference in earnings for me. Luckily my placement is climbing back up and so is my hourly. It's very cut and dry for me.

justanothercamgirl
12-16-2012, 07:52 PM
One hour on MFC and not a single damn token to show for it.

Of course people were happy to see me because they miss chatting with me for free though. (*sighs*)

EllieGold
12-16-2012, 09:59 PM
i got nothing from MFC so I logged off. Going back in 1 hour...

Blonde-Ambition
12-18-2012, 09:53 AM
this week and last week have been an absolute joke! so much for the season of good will! :( *tearing hair out*

Missbeth
12-18-2012, 01:08 PM
this week and last week have been an absolute joke! so much for the season of good will! :( *tearing hair out*

Yes....hopefully after Christmas people will start spending again... *fingers crossed*

italianstarcamgirl
12-18-2012, 01:13 PM
agreed, it has been very slow and gold shows have been a joke - I've been having better luck just logging in classic chat this week and last.

TheBrownFox
12-18-2012, 01:21 PM
I got on cam very early this morning on SM, after MFC was a complete bust. Two of my MFC regulars hopped on SM, and each of them tipped me approx. 60 Gold in accumulative tips (totaling 125 Gold), because of this new 'top 2 highest accumulative tippers' contest I'm doing for the next few days. All daily pay money earned these next few days are CRUCIAL, so I was pretty happy about that. It's like pulling teeth to get tips in SM free chat, it seems.

JGB2009
12-18-2012, 02:16 PM
I agree it has been hard. Funny this time last year was easier.

0TaraM
12-18-2012, 05:13 PM
Hopefully the next year is better =)

Cam_Model_Jess
12-18-2012, 07:37 PM
You know, I thought last year was better until I realized that it just seemed that way b/c I have higher goals this year. So it seems so much worse to me this year, but it's really not all that much worse. Plus, looking at paychecks, it doesn't quite line up b/c this year the checks start on the 9th and 16th, & 23rd. Whereas last year it was the 12th, 19th & 26th. It's just 3 "days" off each week, but considering the holidays do play a role, putting checks side by side (if this is year 2 for you), isn't going to be an accurate measure.

StephanieXS
12-19-2012, 07:06 PM
Took a week off due to UTI, yeast infection and cold. 2 hours and $10. I'm never taking time off again...

RaineyLane
12-19-2012, 07:33 PM
Took a week off due to UTI, yeast infection and cold. 2 hours and $10. I'm never taking time off again...

OMG! I took a week off for a yeast infection, then a cold and UTI too! Spooky! (Hope we are not sleeping with the same guy! LOL JK!)
Guess my comeback is going slightly better than yours but I'm working off peak hours. Hope it picks up! I only made $45 on MFC this morning in 3 hours. Thought that was pretty bad, but now I'm gonna be thankful after reading the last few posts on this thread... Oh, I was also on SM for an hour and made $0... Guess I raised the prices too much there. I don't understand why we should have to offer more for less to make $$ on SM...

Anyway, I'm trying not to stress over it and just keep plugging away. "If you build it, they will CUM"

MissAdriana
12-19-2012, 08:43 PM
I made the most I ever did on MFC today: $65 but I actually got a guy to take me PRIVATE! WTF OMFG YESSSSSSS hahaha! :D But 30 mins on SM and not even a time with more than 5guys in my room, 0 privates, 0 tips ... no thanks

SabrinaGrrl
12-20-2012, 07:38 AM
Middle of page one and no privates in one hour. One dollar tip! This week or two has been horrific for me. There's no traffic in my room. There's no guys with money. I really hope this picks up soon else I have to quit camming. I don't think I can make rent this month. This really fucking sucks.

Marina Starr
12-20-2012, 07:42 AM
Awww, I'm really sorry to hear. I hope it gets better for you! )))))HUGS((((((


Middle of page one and no privates in one hour. One dollar tip! This week or two has been horrific for me. There's no traffic in my room. There's no guys with money. I really hope this picks up soon else I have to quit camming. I don't think I can make rent this month. This really fucking sucks.

SabrinaGrrl
12-20-2012, 09:07 AM
Thanks babe. And now I am in a worse mood because a guy just took me pvt, for like 45 seconds. I just had taken off my top and he logged out and gave me a one. Im so depressed.

webcamcutie
12-20-2012, 09:50 AM
Email to get it removed
they more than likely will
Anytime I get a 1star they remove, the guys that are dicks rate you 2 star. /:

Marina Starr
12-20-2012, 09:53 AM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x311/melaniamai/Disgusted-Grandma.gif
I hate assholes like that! You can contact SM support and have them remove the 1 star rating. Be polite and explain to them you can't possibly put on a show in 45 seconds, you didn't even get a fucking chance to!


Thanks babe. And now I am in a worse mood because a guy just took me pvt, for like 45 seconds. I just had taken off my top and he logged out and gave me a one. Im so depressed.

CourtneyRaine
12-20-2012, 11:12 AM
Yesterday I sat in free chat for 3 hours. Made $0. Logged off. Cried. Did NOT get that bottle of wine like I wanted, instead I relaxed with a few episodes of General Hospital, logged back on, and made my goal quite easily in 2.5 hours.

SM needs to approve me again, I love my main site but I am SOOOO tired with how inconsistent the money is. At least on SM I pretty much knew what I was going to make every day. On Naked every day is a freaking crap shoot.

whirlerz
12-20-2012, 11:24 AM
...........

CourtneyRaine
12-20-2012, 11:29 AM
@Whirlerz, do you mean about Naked? If so then yes I 100% agree with you. It has been the only site I've cammed on for the past 3 months and while I'm able to pay all my bills and splurge a bit, I have to waste many, many hours in free chat unproductively. One day of the week I can easily hit $200. Two days later I can barely make $40. At the end it does even out (for me) because I'm on all the time but I need something more stable to fall back on.

VoluptiousBriadda
12-20-2012, 11:34 AM
uhhh speak for yourselves Marina and Sabrina! yall may be slower than old ppl f*ck,but im so efficient that by 45 sec ive already given a striptease and a sloppy BJ,pulled off some DP action,squirted all over the screen,and made my custie cum so hard hes blown out the bottom of his ballsack,all while gargling salt water,smoking a cigarette and making fun of his lil pink baby carrot.This ensures I get an 8 star rating every single time.its called multi-tasking ladies,and its my friend.whats 1 star? I don't even know what that is,is this something new SM has enabled??It sounds EWW-Y :D
32407


*disclaimer-not a single word I just said was the truth,serious,or meant to harm!

don't let someone who has to PAY FOR SEX,over the INTERWEBZ,get you down Sabrina,i have to remind myself of this every time I get a bad rating
I know its been really hard lately,for ALOT of us, especially on SM
but know that atleast everyone here understands and is right there with you :hug:

twistedprincess
12-20-2012, 12:24 PM
I beg you fucking pardon?! I was just simply showing SabrinaGrrl support because on SM, custies get the first 30 seconds for free.
Some asshole gave her 1 star (which is terrible) because he was charged for 15 seconds. I wasn't talking about you, to you or calling anyone slow so I'm a bit confused as to why you took it so personally. The hater in your GIF must be you then?!

I thought she was completely joking based upon how it is not physically possible for anyone to even do half those things in 45 seconds and 8 star reviews don't exist :) I was laughing when I read it (yeah I was a bit shocked by the first sentance but when I kept reading I realized it was a joke). Potatoes gonna potate :)

JuliaX
12-20-2012, 12:33 PM
I feel you SG... This morning I had a guy on SM, a normal vanilla show, all was good. He even took his time to write this:
Custie: oh baby this was great
u have a great night and i will c u soon
thank u
night night

Then I just looked up if he left a rating... and I saw a 3... And I was just like WHY, WHY, WHY? I am obsessed with my ratings, I block anybody for a bad one, which does not happen often, but upsets me like hell, because I just do not deserve them. But I absolutely do not get this guy and the ones who send me a tip after the show and leave a 4 star rating. Are those ratings happened due to a mistake or...?