View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
Mercedes2006
02-13-2013, 09:25 PM
What kind of chat? Like a dating site? How do they get paid? Do they get a bonus for referring new customers and that's why?
Hope you don't feel like you're getting the 3rd degree but I'm sure you understand that there are a ton of guys who just try to leech and reduce $$$ for everyone else, that's why I ask.
Sorry I didn't get back quicker! They get paid by the site for each sale - that's how they make their $. I don't know where they get their chat, that's their specialty :) .
JaneBurgess
02-15-2013, 12:23 AM
Try a different cam site. I think all cam performers should always have another site to use.
Been there for like a month and a half, so far, and it has been only getting worse. I changed my location to Netherlads a few days ago, gonna see if it makes things better. Looks like I've got to chage my looks and background/furniture, not only my equipment, but now that all the toy-and-tech investment proved to be of no help I just cant make myself spend on work-related stuff anymore. If I do everything that can be done right now and it doesnt change the things to the better within a month, I'll be left completely broke, with no money to pay the rent. I know 3.99 and 4.99 is not that much, that is why my obvious failure with it makes me feel like an unworthy piece of crap, so I cant even hide it anymore when on cam. I thought about taking a break, but I damn need that money. Dont know what to do.
Marina Starr
02-19-2013, 11:07 AM
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roast
02-19-2013, 01:09 PM
[sorry to repost this, it reformatted weirdly when I tried to edit it]
Sorry I didn't get back quicker! They get paid by the site for each sale - that's how they make their $. I don't know where they get their chat, that's their specialty :) .
So, theyre just affiliates for PussyCash - you dont need to send them FB pictures, they can just go to your profile on ImLive and make blog posts/troll chat sites and forums for signups. Giving them FB pictures youre losing a lot of control. They get paid upto $250 (depending on the promo period, it averages less than that but it isnt a few bucks) per signup, theyre not necessarily sending you quality traffic. That isnt their goal, they just need one signup? I doubt theyre sending hundreds of legit signups per day or theyre affiliate masters and should just work for ImLive or make their own cam site. Unless youre #1 in the HoF on ImLive regularly and you can attribute it to them and theyre giving you some kind of kickback, youre giving them a lot more than theyre giving you.
Sending FB pictures (which can be google image reversed so customers can find you rapidly) isnt the best idea? Bc if theyre promising dates with real traceable pictures to your real info, guys duped will look you up?They can (and a lot of affiliates do) do all of that promo without you per your model contract. We do? In fact on PussyCash there is an embedded code that goes through various model rooms that you can post on a blog or website that is pretty indiscriminate.
Youd make a lot more trolling using your own model affiliate link that ImLive provides
Seriously, affiliates do this kind of chat trolling every day all the time just with your cam model profile pics. In fact it is actively encouraged by some sites? Some sites have dating site sbuilt intentionally for this purpose (Imlive / PussyCash are definitely one of them?) So, no need to feed them pictures that are GFE and FB style unless theyre already in your profile? The pics may end up on escorting sites (which some affiliates do anyway) and then your real FB pics will be linked to escort advertisements via reverse image searches, ykwim?
Best to keep your cam pics and your FB pics entirely separate and no need to independently feed affiliates, we get a shit ton of stuff already to market with? ESPECIALLY on PussyCash which is chockful of images, embed codes, videos, on our consoles plus the model profiles themselves which we're free to use?
Also on you alerting them when you sign on and off: ImLive notifies customer favorites if they go to their customer account and add you. They can also receive your daily allotted messages where you announce your schedule for that day (or the next). You dont need to take out time in your day to manually inform them, they can go to your model profile and get alerts on their own. ImLive is pretty reliable about customer alerts as well?
Most affiliates have zero to minimal contact with models - bc there is no need? There really isnt. People talk about asking models for original content on a few adult webmaster forums - but most make plenty of conversions without hustling models for original content bc the back and forth or haggling isnt worth it.
I doubt this but you may want to confirm you make 30% (or 35% if youre a vet or in the HoF) on ImLive by manually calculating your earnings? If you see it is less than that (pre-chargebacks) then youre in a studio. If it is under 30%, on ImLive you can just close it and restart a new profile pretty easily.
If you are doing well in ways that can be traced to them, they give you kickbacks of their conversions, you dont mind the risk of using FB pics, or youre fine with this arrangement- then ignore this big ole "ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" post. Just wanted to clarify some things
bigbootyjudy1
02-19-2013, 01:18 PM
Today is so quiet!!! I need a bucket of water to wake me up.
Marina Starr
02-19-2013, 01:20 PM
It's not you boo! If you're on SM then it was horrible this morning!
Today is so quiet!!! I need a bucket of water to wake me up.
TheBrownFox
02-19-2013, 01:20 PM
How have things been going for the indy cam models? Are you ladies still getting a decent flow of guys buying Skype shows? Or has it slowed down on the indy side too? Sometimes I think about CamWealth (before all that stuff went down with them) and miss it. I liked getting paid right away without a bunch of free chat chitchat and guys acting like they need "convincing" to buy a show...lol.
~Carmen~
02-19-2013, 01:26 PM
Same here for me this morning on SM. Nothing but beggars and rude guys. This afternoon was better for me though.
cumslut4u
02-19-2013, 01:46 PM
I was on today from 11:30 am -2:30 and barely made $30. Last night I worked the same amount and made double. I have no idea what was going on today. I know at one point there 54 bbws on, that's the most I've ever seen.
MissSassyPickles
02-19-2013, 11:56 PM
@Roast really informative. I was trying to figure out what was going on! Thanks for the explanation.
CourtneyRaine
02-20-2013, 12:29 AM
Ehr. Mah. Gerd. Cammed for twice as long to make half of what I normally do. During my peak hours I pull in about $25/hour pretty easily. Tonight during prime hours I only made about $6/hour.
I am seriously considering signing up for some indy listings but I am SO trying to focus on my non-adult stuff, I don't have time to do free chat AND my side business AND promote an indy listing. I just can't do it.
I need to cam more consistently. Does anyone know of any ways to not get a period other than prescription birth control or getting pregnant? Every time I get back on cam after several days off I definitely feel it. I cannot continue allowing my body to interrupt my ability to make money :(
KittyAudrey
02-20-2013, 01:18 AM
Honey when Im on my days I just use a tiny tampon, hide the string deep up there, change tampons every time I feel it and fake as much as possible. Dont tell me guys will notice because if they notice you are not faking it correctly haha. But it will be slower (i dont offer angles those days so the effect of the toy inside wont disappear) but at least you will be doing some money!!! :c check your pills with your dr, your period should be 3 or 4 days max.
Also if you do anal... well you got an extra hole D:
If you get cramps -as I do- drink tea and get painkillers (not paracetamol cause it increases the blood flow) and put something warm on your belly :)
Ehr. Mah. Gerd. Cammed for twice as long to make half of what I normally do. During my peak hours I pull in about $25/hour pretty easily. Tonight during prime hours I only made about $6/hour.
I am seriously considering signing up for some indy listings but I am SO trying to focus on my non-adult stuff, I don't have time to do free chat AND my side business AND promote an indy listing. I just can't do it.
I need to cam more consistently. Does anyone know of any ways to not get a period other than prescription birth control or getting pregnant? Every time I get back on cam after several days off I definitely feel it. I cannot continue allowing my body to interrupt my ability to make money :(
BrightAndClaire
02-20-2013, 01:22 AM
Does anyone know of any ways to not get a period other than prescription birth control or getting pregnant? Every time I get back on cam after several days off I definitely feel it. I cannot continue allowing my body to interrupt my ability to make money :(
No, but have you tried SoftCups? I tried them last month and I was really shocked by how comfortable they were and how well they worked. I had a DivaCup before that and I haaaaaaaaaaaated it, could never get it to sit right and I think it made my cramps worse.
Tonight was a bust. I had guys complaining of lag and my cam freezing, and I think maybe SM has been having this problem off and on the last few days. I logged off and worked on clips. Clips don't argue with me or tell me they can buy a show "later".
gingerstripper
02-20-2013, 01:29 AM
Tonight can suck my ass, i made 30 bucks tonight...but here i am still determined to get back on and just do my thing.
CourtneyRaine
02-20-2013, 01:41 AM
Thank you Audrey and Claire, I already use the hiding the tampon string method and I'm pretty happy with it. I'm way too paranoid about a cup leaking but I've never had a whoopsie with a tampon. My issue is a lot of discomfort, tiredness, and mostly pain. Years ago my dr put me on rx pain pills for my cramps but I don't have insurance so no more pills for me. Sometimes I am able to just suck it up and cam anyway but when I've got girlie issues on top of my GI issues I just can't handle camming.
I'd also like to add that I am Soooooo tired of annoying guys on cam! The slow times wouldn't suck so bad if most of the members on the site weren't such douchecanoes.
AliceFun
02-20-2013, 02:29 AM
Sorry to hear u have hard times working during the period Courtney, i also have a very heavy period and at least 2 days i need to stay off cam cause i just cant handle work. Not sure what kind of shows u offer in general but if u can manage to do fetish or anal as the lady above mentioned or any other kind of show excluding insertions then u can make some money still. Working freechat sites is exhausting anyway especially during period, i know i cant resist online more than 4 hrs per nite , if i push for more i get very tired and moody so i better log off. You can try shorter shifts, change tampons often, stay off cam on heavy flow days, now depends how ur body works and how heavy ur period is. Good luck and be healthy!
takiaya
02-20-2013, 12:24 PM
My cam score has dropped almost 500 points since last week. $30 in 4 hours the other day, and today $15 in 2 hours...to switch hours again or to switch sites...UGH the love hate relationship with MFCs
BrightAndClaire
02-20-2013, 02:05 PM
My issue is a lot of discomfort, tiredness, and mostly pain. Years ago my dr put me on rx pain pills for my cramps but I don't have insurance so no more pills for me. Sometimes I am able to just suck it up and cam anyway but when I've got girlie issues on top of my GI issues I just can't handle camming.
Court, here are a few things that have worked for me for pain (I used to get ovarian cysts and debilitating cramps):
--Cut out dairy and gluten. If it seems like too much of a commitment, try cutting it out just for the week before your period and see what happens.
--If you're crampy, go at yourself with your favorite vibrator until you have a good orgasm. I find it soothes the muscles and kind of loosens things up.
--Combine your over-the-counter pain relievers. Different ones work on the body in different ways; for me the magic formula was 1 ibuprofen and 2 Tylenol. I usually only need to do that for the first day.
StephanieXS
02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
I've been on for about 20 minutes... And they're all freeloaders...
CummingCouple
02-21-2013, 12:45 AM
;D On a lighter note, hey there kittyaudrey! Didnt know you were on SW. You like anime, right? Im watching requiem from the darkness right now and loving it. Do you like that one? I am jealous that you speak japanese... Getting back on topic -
Camming sucks right now because theres a chargeback coming our way, we can feel it... a dude spent way too much on us in one night then freeloaded for a few days after asking if i missed him and not bothering to take us private when we told him to, he ended up getting too friendly and asking when we could meet up, block! Trying to fill out an application for SM without a printer(not successfully) just in case imlive dies. It seems both the sites have issues now. Technical difficulties -____-
MiaraRiley
02-22-2013, 10:40 PM
:/ This week, i've had 3 slow days. The most i've made out of those 3 days was $60 for 5 hours. -_- I usually make about $50 an hour. Wtf is happening? Just last week I was EASILY pulling in tippers like it was nothing!! I'm taking tomorrow off, then coming back on Sunday with a more positive attitude. Figures this happens as soon as I change to payment by wire...I need to make at LEAST $1000 to get payout (plus the fee). Ughhhh.
gingerstripper
02-23-2013, 12:52 PM
Okay, soo last night was a total bust...52 dollars....didnt even get naked...so i walked away thinking eff this...so i just was online chatting...browsing the internet and someone left me 1100 token tip. Thank god! saved my camscore...AND!!! AND!!! i surpassed my 1,000 dollar goal with myself this week :D AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!! MFC "bring it" :p
KittyAudrey
02-23-2013, 03:12 PM
Oh hey! Didn't see you before ... anywhere :P haha do you use the same screen name on iml? My memory kinda sucks if I dont make notes haha. I dont know that one sorry, but Im currently watching Psycho Pass, pretty good anime tbh. Im still studying japanese, kanji are hard as hell...
Anyway Camming sucks for me today because Im moody and my period is close :( also I feel like falling asleep.. I might go and get a shot of caffeine to my veins.
;D On a lighter note, hey there kittyaudrey! Didnt know you were on SW. You like anime, right? Im watching requiem from the darkness right now and loving it. Do you like that one? I am jealous that you speak japanese... Getting back on topic -
Camming sucks right now because theres a chargeback coming our way, we can feel it... a dude spent way too much on us in one night then freeloaded for a few days after asking if i missed him and not bothering to take us private when we told him to, he ended up getting too friendly and asking when we could meet up, block! Trying to fill out an application for SM without a printer(not successfully) just in case imlive dies. It seems both the sites have issues now. Technical difficulties -____-
gingerstripper
02-23-2013, 07:08 PM
Im sooooo mooody too, my period is gonna come within a week or so...and im started to feel it...getting super tired. ad crampy...errgh
Pippi_Hicks
02-23-2013, 08:32 PM
My issue is a lot of discomfort, tiredness, and mostly pain. Years ago my dr put me on rx pain pills for my cramps but I don't have insurance so no more pills for me. Sometimes I am able to just suck it up and cam anyway but when I've got girlie issues on top of my GI issues I just can't handle camming.
One thing that might help with pain from cramping is an electric heating pad positioned against your lower back. They usually have them in the medical section at drugstores (Walgreens) or big box stores (Wal-Mart, Target). You could easily cover it with a small towel or pillow case, or even slip it under a blanket and no one would be able to tell that it's there when you're online. It could be really helpful when you're not camming too. A friend of mine gets really bad awful cramps and she'll use her heating pad when she's at work to help reduce the misery.
The slow times wouldn't suck so bad if most of the members on the site weren't such douchecanoes.
Douchecanoes... that is awesome.
Pearl_Sugar
02-23-2013, 09:16 PM
This probably isn't great for the camming sucks thread, but I wanted to add in a period quip. This week was the first week I managed to work for my whole period (except the second day). What works for me is 3 ibuprofen every 6 hours (on the first day) and I use sea sponges. Just get that sucker wet, pop it way back in there with a dildo, have a few orgasms to lube myself back up, get on cam for a few hours and work, then take that sucker back out every 2-3 hours, rinse, and repeat. I'm so proud of myself, because I managed a $1000 week on my period.
My motivation? This paycheck comes on the day rent is due, so I had no choice. >_>;
PrincessLuna
02-24-2013, 12:44 AM
This probably isn't great for the camming sucks thread, but I wanted to add in a period quip. This week was the first week I managed to work for my whole period (except the second day). What works for me is 3 ibuprofen every 6 hours (on the first day) and I use sea sponges. Just get that sucker wet, pop it way back in there with a dildo, have a few orgasms to lube myself back up, get on cam for a few hours and work, then take that sucker back out every 2-3 hours, rinse, and repeat. I'm so proud of myself, because I managed a $1000 week on my period.
My motivation? This paycheck comes on the day rent is due, so I had no choice. >_>;
How do you get it back out?? I've never used them and have super tiny fingers so I can't mentally figure it out.
Rosexxxx
02-24-2013, 05:53 AM
How do you get it back out?? I've never used them and have super tiny fingers so I can't mentally figure it out.
When I take them out I usually have to bear down like a little squat and push it out. It works for me. Takes a little practice.
Rosexxxx
02-24-2013, 05:53 AM
How do you get it back out?? I've never used them and have super tiny fingers so I can't mentally figure it out.
When I take them out I usually have to bear down like a little squat and push it out. It works for me. Takes a little practice.
Cam_Model_Jess
02-24-2013, 07:04 AM
And don't panic. Seriously. The first time I used one, I was in the bathroom for an hour trying to get it out. But once I did it a few times, it got easier. Now it's a breeze. When you get anxious it makes it harder to get them out. If you really can't get it out after trying for a while, try a hot bath.
TheBrownFox
02-24-2013, 09:35 AM
*WARNING: TMI POST!*
For those of you who don't use dildos while heavily on their periods.....
Maybe some guys on Streamate would be interested if you did a bubble bath GOLD show? Wet hair and wet bodies are sexy, bb! :P
Or if you did a shower show, maybe keep your cam raised up high enough so that it never shows the shower floor. I say this because when you take a shower during your period, you look down and see blood spilling out onto the shower floor and going down the drain...lol.
When I'm on my period I don't use dildos, but I'd be willing to use my vibrator (sadly, it seems like a lot of guys who go private are more interested in penetration than vibrator play...I guess cuz it helps them imagine that they're fucking you themselves...lol). But I do get naked. I just try to avoid a bunch of 'spread pussy' shots...lol.
Pearl_Sugar
02-24-2013, 04:17 PM
I will tell you, yesterday after my period was 100% done and I got done working, the fucking thing just didn't want to come out. :p Sometimes you just gotta wait until your body relaxes. I have tiny fingers too, but I'm pretty shallow so I can just reach back, wrap around it, and pull it out. This time, that wasn't working. After relaxing, then bearing down, I got it out. Never be afraid that it's lost, because you physically can't lose it. :p
Marina Starr
02-24-2013, 04:18 PM
I feel blessed I don't have period :)
Incantatious
02-24-2013, 04:28 PM
Sucks being here..
Streamate has sucked so much ass for the for the past few weeks! My saving grace has been an amazing reg who spends $60+ (my cut) per session on me. If not for him, I have NO idea what I'd do on SM.. I've been running so many $1 voyeur GOLD shows because there is just simply nothing else to do.
Having said this. I've been incredibly ill the past few weeks. Ill and stressed. So maybe my act has just gone to shit.. In fact I hope my act has just gone to shit and that it's not a problem on SM's end for bringing me shitty traffic.
Marina Starr
02-24-2013, 05:09 PM
You are not alone! Some things are out of your control but you are loved!
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Sucks being here..
Streamate has sucked so much ass for the for the past few weeks! My saving grace has been an amazing reg who spends $60+ (my cut) per session on me. If not for him, I have NO idea what I'd do on SM.. I've been running so many $1 voyeur GOLD shows because there is just simply nothing else to do.
Having said this. I've been incredibly ill the past few weeks. Ill and stressed. So maybe my act has just gone to shit.. In fact I hope my act has just gone to shit and that it's not a problem on SM's end for bringing me shitty traffic.
seller317
02-24-2013, 05:47 PM
Can I just thank twice cuz I feel for you just soooo much as a fellow streamer lol Hope it gets better for us all!!!!
BrightAndClaire
02-24-2013, 07:29 PM
Camming sucks right now because...I took some time off for my birthday, but decided to work on some custom clip orders so I could be sure money was still coming in. Normally clips are way less stressful for me than getting on cam; however, as it turned out, this customer wanted a scene with me tied up, ankles to wrists behind my back, laying on my belly while my husband face-fucked me. We got about one minute of footage with me in this position before my back said NO WAY BITCH and promptly spazzed out. Still feeling it. Ow.
AliceFun
02-25-2013, 01:52 AM
I cant work due to back pain, i cant get off the bed to go to bathroom w.o my son's help, had to keep him home from school today, just managed to get on pc today to check emails and all and SW but cant sit on my ass anymore, took pain killer pills and still hurts soo bad, what can i do to get back on my feet again and work? Was never this bad!! I am scared like shit, no medical insurance here, nobody to help but my teenager son and if i call ambulance, what can they do to me? I am just 38 and my back is fucked up from all work i did, either standing at work long hrs or sitting for long hrs.
Omg pls tell me how to release this pain, thank u!!
Incantatious
02-25-2013, 02:05 AM
Alice, you must, *must* get medical help for your back! Is there absolutely no way you can see a doctor? I am completely unfamiliar with how things work anywhere but in the UK, so I am sorry if this is of no help.. I am just concerned for you.. :( If the pain is very extreme and disabling, and there is *NO* other possible way you can get help, I'd totally call an ambulance. Ask for morphine and / or gas (I had both of these when I had a bladder infection not long ago. It was the most intense pain I'd been in in my life) - these things can help enormously. Aside from that, they are not long-term solutions, and it is more than worthwhile asking them for advice on how to manage your pain. I do hope you feel better soon my dear.. Keep us updated with you. xx
TheBrownFox
02-25-2013, 06:06 AM
I cant work due to back pain, i cant get off the bed to go to bathroom w.o my son's help, had to keep him home from school today, just managed to get on pc today to check emails and all and SW but cant sit on my ass anymore, took pain killer pills and still hurts soo bad, what can i do to get back on my feet again and work? Was never this bad!! I am scared like shit, no medical insurance here, nobody to help but my teenager son and if i call ambulance, what can they do to me? I am just 38 and my back is fucked up from all work i did, either standing at work long hrs or sitting for long hrs.
Omg pls tell me how to release this pain, thank u!!
That is awful, and I'm so sorry! :(
Is your son old enough to drive you to the hospital? The reason I ask this is that when my sister and my niece were taken to the hospital in an ambulance after a house fire (my sis had soot in the back of her throat and couldn't stop coughing), she ended up with a $600 bill just for the damn ambulance ride alone!
Is your son, or a neighbor, or someone reliable in your phone contacts list able to drive you to the hospital ASAP?
CarmenF
02-25-2013, 06:13 AM
omg you pay for ambulance??
Marina Starr
02-25-2013, 07:19 AM
In America, you do pay for everything :)
QUOTE=CarmenF;2459145]omg you pay for ambulance??[/QUOTE]
CarmenF
02-25-2013, 08:09 AM
whoa that s crazy. sorry ladies, but paying for an ambulance is nuts. i volounteer on ambulances, we save people for free. and government gives us money to keep our thing going... we bring people who cant walk to hospital for visits or cures. we get no money, and the poor person gets the service free as it s paid by taxes....
TheBrownFox
02-25-2013, 08:43 AM
Yeah, I was shocked when she told me about the ambulance bill. Can you imagine a person needing medical attention and telling their loved one "No, DON'T call an ambulance! The ambulance ride is expensive!" SMH.
SoloDesire
02-25-2013, 08:44 AM
We pay taxes on ambulance and fire in the US as well...yet they still will charge if you need the service. Makes no sense.
Marina Starr
02-25-2013, 08:47 AM
Isn't that sad? I have a story to share. A few years back there was a transsexual woman who was in an accident so the ambulance came. When they discovered that she was transgender, they stop helping her so she was left to die.
Yeah, I was shocked when she told me about the ambulance bill. Can you imagine a person needing medical attention and telling their loved one "No, DON'T call an ambulance! The ambulance ride is expensive!" SMH.
CarmenF
02-25-2013, 08:51 AM
what i meant is that nobody pays for it, not just poor people. oh my that s a horrible story. we pay too much on taxes but i m glad that sanitary costs are something you dont have to worry about especially whenyou are in hospital.
TheBrownFox
02-25-2013, 09:16 AM
A few years back there was a transsexual woman who was in an accident so the ambulance came. When they discovered that she was transgender, they stop helping her so she was left to die.
That's absolutely disgusting that they could treat a human being that way!
Was her family able to do anything about it?
~Carmen~
02-25-2013, 10:20 AM
That's absolutely disgusting that they could treat a human being that way!
Was her family able to do anything about it?
Agreed!! I hope her family sued :(
Marina Starr
02-25-2013, 01:01 PM
I don't know the extend of it but I sure hope something was done.
That's absolutely disgusting that they could treat a human being that way!
Was her family able to do anything about it?