View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
CreativeName
12-11-2016, 11:58 AM
You know I'd honestly rather be pure objectified for my softcore shows and rejected for what I don't do immediately than people trying to talk to me for ages like they are my friend? You are PERVING on me on a camsite I AM NOT YOUR FRIEND GO TO HELL. Also all these people have now been trained to expect to communicate with you off the camsite cuz all these cammodels and IG models etc do all the snapchat/kik bullshit. I don't want nothing to do with u except when I am camming and only if I am making money from you. I mean if you wanna converse a lil but you are gonna pay me ok so converse with me I'll entertain you. But if you bought a show from me once and I made like $2 off u for being a minute man I am not going to entertain you forever go to hell. I don't care about these people's personal lives why should I? People go on camsites to jack off- I am not your god damn friend I am your sex fantasy and you shall pay me then please by all means fuck off. The thought of trying to converse with them when I am not being tipped/paid by them makes me disgusted with them and myself just no no no. Oh and then these people trying to know about me more than how's my day been and what do you like to do for fun.. I don't get why they are trying to stalk my private life like no >:(
Now to all the guys that pay me and don't try and spend AGES conversing with me when I am trying to make money or try to get me offsite <3 they are awesome. I guess my problem is with the talkative freeloaders. Also it seems like my money has gone up on average since summer just cuz it seems more people are inside, but unless I am insane or just had a bad bit of luck I swear to god I am getting more freeloading people trying to hang out all day and it is just not cool. What else annoys me is people that don't wanna spend money on me b/c they can tell I am splitcamming. Like honey- if you want my 1 on 1 attention I will turn off my other sites and go into a private with you. But maybe that isn't so obvious. Then I get so many people that say something to me and if I don't get to them in the first 30 seconds to a minute when I am real busy they leave. -_- asdkfjsalkdfjsa I think I'd rather be a stripper if I didn't live in such a brokeass city where girls make only like 100-200 a night on average which I can do without being groped or ogled in real life... I think I need xanax or something to stop giving a fuck.
I think I still love camming overall, but I need to do something about my attitude problem LOL
HollyJaydeXXX
12-11-2016, 12:14 PM
Streamate is fucking garbage... hot smelly Chinatown in the summer garbage...
It is Sunday, which is usually the BEST day for me and I've made $28 in 8 hours.
Fuck this site. Fuck this lame ass freeloading bitch customers that Streamate is bringing to the site. Fuck all these models showing their pussy, ass and everything else in free chat.
Fuck this shit.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
12-11-2016, 05:17 PM
I know my son watches those twitch people all the time.. I told him to start doing that since he is interested in video games..lol... I am so jealous and envious how many subscribers and how much money they make to just sit there and chat about video games and themselves and they have some of the most faithful followers.. not like camming where you just get shit on by ungrateful unappreciative men all day.
i swear to jesus i'm gonna quit & just gonna start streaming on twitch. i bet id' make more in donations and not even have to get naked LBS!!
You know something funny about twitch, is that guys will put on there profile things like
Donations are just that Donations
Do Not Be Annoying Or Make Demands
If you like me then support me. Without your support I cant stream
Just because you make a donation does not mean you can run the show
Does that sound familiar? Those quotes came from male streamers on twitch. And the messed up part is I'm sure they go to chatrooms and be like Tits BB?
victoriavein
12-11-2016, 07:00 PM
You know something funny about twitch, is that guys will put on there profile things like
Donations are just that Donations
Do Not Be Annoying Or Make Demands
If you like me then support me. Without your support I cant stream
Just because you make a donation does not mean you can run the show
Does that sound familiar? Those quotes came from male streamers on twitch. And the messed up part is I'm sure they go to chatrooms and be like Tits BB?
I actually got the idea to stream on twitch from a twitch streamer on mfc, who of course was too cheap to tip me after bragging about how much he makes in donations. Oh the irony...lol
christylive
12-11-2016, 11:23 PM
Streamate is fucking garbage... hot smelly Chinatown in the summer garbage...
It is Sunday, which is usually the BEST day for me and I've made $28 in 8 hours.
Fuck this site. Fuck this lame ass freeloading bitch customers that Streamate is bringing to the site. Fuck all these models showing their pussy, ass and everything else in free chat.
Fuck this shit.
SAY IT ONE MORE TIME FOR THE PEOPLE!!!!!! I 2nd this!!!
christylive
12-12-2016, 04:19 AM
All aboard the sinking ship express, my name is Christy and I am your captain. please keep all legs, hands and feet inside the cabin at all times. bags of decapitated nuts belonging to the lurkers and freeloaders will be available for purchase in 1 hour or at 25,000 feet or whichever is greater . ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Teddy_Bear
12-12-2016, 06:01 AM
Why do girlies flash pussy during gold show countdowns?! Under the pretence of showing off their tip vibes of course. I don't strip or get naked at all during my countdowns and I inform them all that I don't give them a show before the show, I also don't have a tip vibe - they still tip.
It brings down the whole nature of the site and really angers me. I watched the same girl restart her countdown over and over yesterday flashing pussy almost the whole time and she was wondering why no one was tipping in. Why would they pay they can already see what you last ate, what is the show going to consist of that is so special, reading poetry fully clothed?
^^^ They never think in perspective but only for today, they ruin everything then wonder why camming became what it is now, with every dollar they make today camming like that they have guaranteed loss tmrw 10 times or 100 times more than what they earned today, it's accounting, matematics, it's going under 0, it's a minus balance.
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 07:35 AM
I have seen that in their rooms also... I am like what?.. I wish I liked video games
You know something funny about twitch, is that guys will put on there profile things like
Donations are just that Donations
Do Not Be Annoying Or Make Demands
If you like me then support me. Without your support I cant stream
Just because you make a donation does not mean you can run the show
Does that sound familiar? Those quotes came from male streamers on twitch. And the messed up part is I'm sure they go to chatrooms and be like Tits BB?
Blovely
12-12-2016, 09:03 AM
Why do girlies flash pussy during gold show countdowns?! Under the pretence of showing off their tip vibes of course. I don't strip or get naked at all during my countdowns and I inform them all that I don't give them a show before the show, I also don't have a tip vibe - they still tip.
It brings down the whole nature of the site and really angers me. I watched the same girl restart her countdown over and over yesterday flashing pussy almost the whole time and she was wondering why no one was tipping in. Why would they pay they can already see what you last ate, what is the show going to consist of that is so special, reading poetry fully clothed?
To each their own. I try not to knock other chicks hustle because I feel like maybe they're banking with doing what they do however I do feel that when you do a bunch of shit for free you're shooting yourself in the foot. I just be sitting there smh thinking to myself "You know you can get paid for that right? Like why aren't you making these dudes tip or go pvt for ass, tits, feet, etc.". Then I shrug like "I guess girl, do you." and go to another room. I charge for everything and anything that I can thing of. I want these dudes to know that I am here to make money first and foremost. If you want anything from me even my attention your ass is paying....ain't nothing here or in this world for free neither is anything I offer. They will deal.
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 09:12 AM
Maybe they are being paid on a different cam site.. and it appears to you they aren't getting paid? .. that's what I do.. and guys think I do shit for free which inferiorates me!.. I won't get up or even show my armpits or tongue for free.. not even blow you a kiss.. lmao.... and I barely do anything other than roleplay in private .. and I am making over 60 k this year and I suck as a camgirl..lmao.. p.s #notbragging #justsayin
To each their own. I try not to knock other chicks hustle because I feel like maybe they're banking with doing what they do however I do feel that when you do a bunch of shit for free you're shooting yourself in the foot. I just be sitting there smh thinking to myself "You know you can get paid for that right? Like why aren't you making these dudes tip or go pvt for ass, tits, feet, etc.". Then I shrug like "I guess girl, do you." and go to another room. I charge for everything and anything that I can thing of. I want these dudes to know that I am here to make money first and foremost. If you want anything from me even my attention your ass is paying....ain't nothing here or in this world for free neither is anything I offer. They will deal.
^^^ That's why i dont like to splitcam especially SM with a token site, i dont want to give them anything for free :)
Pussy costs money & is expensive to 'maintain' in good shape haha ;)
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 10:22 AM
aint nothing like SM even at it's worst.. yesterday I got 75 gold and the guy said don't do nothing for it..!
^^^ That's why i dont like to splitcam especially SM with a token site, i dont want to give them anything for free :)
Pussy costs money & is expensive to 'maintain' in good shape haha ;)
ep2002
12-12-2016, 10:29 AM
Sometimes I sedate myself with sleeping herbs so I don't get irritated.. one guy asked me why I was so quiet that day... and so I sent him a private message.. this was on Cam4 .. one of the shittiest cam sites ever.. .
So I STOPPED camming on C4 a while ago & a few days ago they actually e-mailed me to ask why I haven't been on in a while.
So I said b/c I make NO money on your site & NO guys come into my room. Plus they have HUGE issues with their site. They even lost my ENTIRE ban list if you can believe that.
Our conversation went back & forth over a few days & she ignored my statement about how NO guys come into my room.
So she tells me (just like CamSoda did recently) that I am the one who should ALSO market the site via my Twitter, etc. I said NO, I thought YOU are the ones who are supposed to provide ME with the guys.
I don't know about you gals, but I don't have any guys on my Twitter who will pay. They are just freeloaders.
So I logged on just to see if maybe I could get guys & it was the SAME BS, no guys & the ones who do come in are all foreigners & freeloaders.
Of course she also blammed it on the fact that I sit in my office & there's no decorations behind me (this I get & can understand), but I asked her WHY on other sites I get way more than 2-4 guys in my room at once???
I can't STAND C4. In the beginning it was pretty good for me & the fact that they pay 10 cents per token is great, but then it started taking me 3-4 months just to make the $50.
Plus their site takes up a TON of juice b/c they haven't coded it properly.
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 11:12 AM
I gotcha on all this bullshit!.. for sure.. I definitely wouldn't market this crap site.. I would hate to see my SM customers ditch SM for some shitty ass site like Cam4.. I don't advertise that I am on token sites on twitter at all.. because I don't want to live in hell.
So I STOPPED camming on C4 a while ago & a few days ago they actually e-mailed me to ask why I haven't been on in a while.
So I said b/c I make NO money on your site & NO guys come into my room. Plus they have HUGE issues with their site. They even lost my ENTIRE ban list if you can believe that.
Our conversation went back & forth over a few days & she ignored my statement about how NO guys come into my room.
So she tells me (just like CamSoda did recently) that I am the one who should ALSO market the site via my Twitter, etc. I said NO, I thought YOU are the ones who are supposed to provide ME with the guys.
I don't know about you gals, but I don't have any guys on my Twitter who will pay. They are just freeloaders.
So I logged on just to see if maybe I could get guys & it was the SAME BS, no guys & the ones who do come in are all foreigners & freeloaders.
Of course she also blammed it on the fact that I sit in my office & there's no decorations behind me (this I get & can understand), but I asked her WHY on other sites I get way more than 2-4 guys in my room at once???
I can't STAND C4. In the beginning it was pretty good for me & the fact that they pay 10 cents per token is great, but then it started taking me 3-4 months just to make the $50.
Plus their site takes up a TON of juice b/c they haven't coded it properly.
CreativeName
12-12-2016, 11:23 AM
Omg yes! everytime i flash tits or something these fucking losers think I do it for free for them lol no bitch somebody else paid me. Takes everything in me not to instaban them. omg. I still usually end up banning anyways. I cannot understand why everybody asks for stand up and turn around. Bitch do you not see my profile pics??? I don't do any special poses like some of these girls do to make 1 thing or another pop out so you see what you get lol. Yeah I find it fucking hilarious that these camsites take such a massive % away from you yet have the nerve to tell u to go get a twitter to market that? I can understand marketing ur signup links on SM or something or an indy site like CMD, but otherwise fuck that shit
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 11:45 AM
yes I was offended when cam4 and bonga asked me to market them.. 6 months later they are still shitty for me and I stood my ground.. I only market cam sites that I can actually make money on .. and they have to prove it to me before I will put it on my twitter.. uggh for real
Omg yes! everytime i flash tits or something these fucking losers think I do it for free for them lol no bitch somebody else paid me. Takes everything in me not to instaban them. omg. I still usually end up banning anyways. I cannot understand why everybody asks for stand up and turn around. Bitch do you not see my profile pics??? I don't do any special poses like some of these girls do to make 1 thing or another pop out so you see what you get lol. Yeah I find it fucking hilarious that these camsites take such a massive % away from you yet have the nerve to tell u to go get a twitter to market that? I can understand marketing ur signup links on SM or something or an indy site like CMD, but otherwise fuck that shit
drearea
12-12-2016, 01:08 PM
This is my biggest hangup with cam.. this is why I get upset when they treat me like I don't exist.. because years ago and maybe not so long ago.. maybe 5 yrs or less ago.. they used to talk with you more in private.. have nice long fun conversations .. they spent 45 mins or even more in pvt just chatting.. I used to start camming in full clothing.. no one complained about it.. jeans, sweater, bra and panties maybe even socks.. they didn't care.. that was the norm I think..lol.. now it's like you said.. and it's disheartening.. and now they think just because we want some conversation in private we are stalling and scamming them.. for me it's not so much about that.. it's about the human connection.. it sucks.
i started in 2009 on Streamate and this was my experience. I had regulars who came in to chat with me in excl DAILY, and after chatting for a while they'd politely say "may I see your tits". That was the most common custie. The short privates were kinda cute because they were not the norm.
anonymous camgirl
12-12-2016, 02:02 PM
That's the year I started on SM also.. I worked on different cam sites prior to 2009
i started in 2009 on Streamate and this was my experience. I had regulars who came in to chat with me in excl DAILY, and after chatting for a while they'd politely say "may I see your tits". That was the most common custie. The short privates were kinda cute because they were not the norm.
drearea
12-12-2016, 02:15 PM
Over it today, almost two hours on and my only earnings have been 865 "hi hru bb"s
So now my topic is: SAY HI IN PRIVATE
fuck you, pay me
EllieGold
12-12-2016, 02:54 PM
Heck, even in 2012 things were amazing. My privates usually consist of "Let me strum this guitar to you and sing you a song my senorita" or "let me tell you an erotic story". Bam $150 earned in 2 hours. Now it's just "Bb tits NOW!!!!" or "Open Chest BB!!!" or "Fist in pvt bb!" & "$10g for pussy in free chat bb!" & my favorite "Ive got a big penis BB wanna see it?!? "
Bananabunny
12-12-2016, 02:57 PM
WHAT THE FUCK!! I made like over 300 dollars last week in 2 days and today 5 cents in 1 hour????????? FUCKING SERIOUSLY????????????? I can smell christmas time coming ==; I should be offline on Christmas, I don't want to sit around then begging for money even tho everyone is with their family. My SD is also with his family on christmas and we will see each other on the beginning of January...Until then I'm lonely :(
drearea
12-12-2016, 03:34 PM
Over it today, almost two hours on and my only earnings have been 865 "hi hru bb"s
So now my topic is: SAY HI IN PRIVATE
fuck you, pay me
Haaaa, ended up making 1/3 of my goal in an exclusive session with a regular who is respectful and reminds me of the guys from my early days. Maybe complaining in this thread does send cam Goddess dust lmao
Bridgetxo
12-12-2016, 03:50 PM
You know what pisses me off? When I have someone who spends money on me and then tells me "oh I am broke now, I don't have a job, blah blah blah."
Sorry? You are an adult. You choose how to spend your money. I didn't make you buy a show or tip me. Stop trying to make me feel bad! And I do feel bad. I am human. But I don't feel bad enough to give you any shit for free lol.
Bristol
12-12-2016, 10:12 PM
3 hours and $0 on Cams, $3 on Chaturbate, and $16 on Streamate. Another day in paradise.
:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
CreativeName
12-12-2016, 11:22 PM
Those respectful, conversational, big spender types are still there. I've only been camming for 2.5 years and I get a lot of shows like this on SM. The thing is, I have to spend a fair amount of time being engaging and interesting in free chat in order to find these types and hook them in. But I'm okay with that because it results in long, talkative private shows (often fully clothed), and it also seems to intimidate/scare off the "pussy now bb" types, which I hardly ever get.
I could never be successful with the "fuck you pay me" kind of hustle, and I don't expect to be compensated for every bit of attention I provide, particularly if it's just talking. If that works for you, great; to each their own. I just think from the guy's perspective, it's generally unattractive if you're blatant about the fact that you're only there for the money. For me it's way more attractive to at least give the impression that you're interested in that "human connection" element, which means spending time talking and showcasing your personality in free chat. It's a subtle hustle but for me it pays off.
Don't get me wrong I see what you are saying, but I despise most of these guys so the fuck you pay me hustle is the only thing that works for me. They make me sick with how much disgust I have for them. I am gonna stop myself from saying more on this topic.
drearea
12-12-2016, 11:27 PM
Don't get me wrong I see what you are saying, but I despise most of these guys so the fuck you pay me hustle is the only thing that works for me. They make me sick with how much disgust I have for them. I am gonna stop myself from saying more on this topic.
I feel like cam girls can just hit a wall. That wall stops us from being able to enjoy the potential to make money from a couple of the hundreds of dudes that expect our attention and time during the day.
I mean if I worked at a fast food place and 9/10 customers just wanted to say "hi hru bb... im good to bb *user has left the restaurant*" that would be way less work for me, and I'd be getting paid hourly, and I'd still think that's a stupid as fuck way to spend my working hours lmao
ravenskyy
12-13-2016, 01:06 AM
I've only been on cam again for about a week and I think I'm a "day shift" girl. My days have been easy going, like averaging a dollar a minute. My nights have sucked. Been on for 2.5 hours and I've made $7. Ewww! I feel like the night time has waaaaay more beggars. I was even way more silly in MFC and it did not pay off. I'm shy as hell on cam and it seems to work better in the day time. I think I'm going to stay away from night shift lol
christylive
12-13-2016, 04:39 AM
Heck, even in 2012 things were amazing. My privates usually consist of "Let me strum this guitar to you and sing you a song my senorita" or "let me tell you an erotic story". Bam $150 earned in 2 hours. Now it's just "Bb tits NOW!!!!" or "Open Chest BB!!!" or "Fist in pvt bb!" & "$10g for pussy in free chat bb!" & my favorite "Ive got a big penis BB wanna see it?!? "
Huge difference from when I started camming in 2013 until now. Really mind blowing.
Those respectful, conversational, big spender types are still there. I've only been camming for 2.5 years and I get a lot of shows like this on SM. The thing is, I have to spend a fair amount of time being engaging and interesting in free chat in order to find these types and hook them in. But I'm okay with that because it results in long, talkative private shows (often fully clothed), and it also seems to intimidate/scare off the "pussy now bb" types, which I hardly ever get.
I could never be successful with the "fuck you pay me" kind of hustle, and I don't expect to be compensated for every bit of attention I provide, particularly if it's just talking. If that works for you, great; to each their own. I just think from the guy's perspective, it's generally unattractive if you're blatant about the fact that you're only there for the money. For me it's way more attractive to at least give the impression that you're interested in that "human connection" element, which means spending time talking and showcasing your personality in free chat. It's a subtle hustle but for me it pays off.
Don't get me wrong I see what you are saying, but I despise most of these guys so the fuck you pay me hustle is the only thing that works for me. They make me sick with how much disgust I have for them. I am gonna stop myself from saying more on this topic.
I feel like cam girls can just hit a wall. That wall stops us from being able to enjoy the potential to make money from a couple of the hundreds of dudes that expect our attention and time during the day.
I mean if I worked at a fast food place and 9/10 customers just wanted to say "hi hru bb... im good to bb *user has left the restaurant*" that would be way less work for me, and I'd be getting paid hourly, and I'd still think that's a stupid as fuck way to spend my working hours lmao
I want to comment a little more on this topic. The idea of taking the time to talk to these 'whales' and engage with them & make them like us and pay for long(er) shows sounds fantastic, i wish i could do that myself cause i know then some guys could really like me a lot and give me their time & money :)
There are a few aspects to take into consideration when it comes to this kind of hustle: we are different unique individuals with personal preferences, cam style, etc. For me personally the time i am able to be on cam is limited to a couple of hrs due to health issues so practically speaking, i dont have the time or will to engage into convos in freechat, what i want from them is, u want something, u better come pvt to pay for my attention/service, for me time is money, i know what they want so they need to pay for what they want; maybe my hustle works like this cause i do offer specific niche shows so they dont come to me for convos or 'general fukery' as i read in some room topics but for specific things like a fetish or item i can wear for them, etc. Some do want general fuckery but they also want something specific like my hairy pussy.
Also, if u splitcam, ur attention is divided between a number of sites, u cant really pay attention to people to a deeper level when u need to pay attention to a number of chat windows actually and in every chat window there are several guys looking for our undivided attention.
I see it like this: I am the One that everyone wants attention from and they are many, too many LOL, each of them wanna talk to me like one-on-one kind of conversation, each of them want my undivided attention while i need to give each of them this attention, this is simply impossible for a human being to give attention to all these guys the way they need, i personally need to dose my energy in freechat not to wear off otherwise i get all tired before i get the 1st pvt LOL so i save energy for the guys willing to pay me and in freechat i interact yes but at a minimum level.
Not further than last nite i got this guy in my room who was very nice and sweet and made me a lot of compliments, he used a proper english to express himself, etc etc, i was a bit tired and lonely cause it was slow at the end of my shift so i talked to him a bit more than usual as he was the only guy in my room then just to find out after..8-10 mins maybe that he is from mexico and cant spend on me!
WHAT??!! All nice and good but where are my money??!! LOL
See, that's why i try to keep the conversation at minimum on SM because we dont get any info about the members there, where they from, if they have money to spend, etc etc; i think a guy will know very fast in a matter of seconds if he wanna spend on me or not, no matter how hard i try to make him spend, if he considers i dont deserve his money he'll not give it to me LOL.
Very rarely these guys take the time to know us, they normally horny and want an orgasm, if they have money & they like the girl they come in, the ones that take their time & try to prolong entering paid chat are either not horny or they picky or they have no money, so on.
My conclusion is, is a matter of preferences, every model works differently, has different length of time to be on cam, has different level of energy to keep going and has different health status, we adapt our hustle to our needs, if i have to get off cam in 2 hrs then i wanna make my money fast, if i can stay on cam 10 hrs let's say then i dont have to rush things :)
CreativeName
12-13-2016, 08:41 AM
Ok firstly I do try and converse with people but I splitcam like some others (mostly to avoid "slow times"). Nothing makes my mood worse than being in 1 chat only and after 10 mins I find out he was just wasting my time. Yeah maybe my hustle is fucking stupid like 1 lady commented but honestly it is the only way I keep sane doing this. Fyi I get whales so my camming style doesn't prevent me from getting them period.
anonymous camgirl
12-13-2016, 10:15 AM
Slow as ever.. took my sleeping pills.. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Susperia
12-13-2016, 01:22 PM
Yes camming sucks today! Last week it was a breeze and so easy, this week just the opposite! I hate the bipolar struggles of camming. Today everyone wants to tease me about getting a show and then they leave. Had a former good regular re-added me on skype just to tell me that since his fave camgirl wasn't on he figured he'd say hi to me. Well hi motherfucker, why are you wasting a half hour of my time just to say you are at work and can't do a show till "Maybe" later...yeah right....fuck off
anonymous camgirl
12-13-2016, 03:25 PM
I barely even talked to anyone for 6 hours.. hardly even to say hello or how are you.. I am tired of this mini recession I am experiencing.. of course I didn't make my goal or even bill paying status.. tired of this trash.. ready for next year.
BloomingLotus
12-13-2016, 03:32 PM
xxxxx
LoraDoll
12-13-2016, 04:51 PM
Kill me now. :D
idiot comes in, who rarely payed for a show, kinda guy who i hate, anyway.
he: re u up for fun?
me: yess.
he: sure?
me: sure.
he: not sure?
.... ARE U COMPLETELY RETARDED?
This massive bullshit make me wanna cry, can't help on myself.
drearea
12-13-2016, 04:52 PM
Okay so the most simple way i can put this is, for years and years the paying customer:freeloader ratio was a lot higher, like 1:1 most shifts for me when I was 18. It took a lot less emotional energy to get into a private show. I would rather not use up all of my emotional energy in hopeful labor.
IF I do my hours, I make my goals. Even if I'm having crippling anxiety over some fuckin dream dog with diabetes that I don't have and telling everyone to "say hi in private" I make my goals. If I'm having a happy and social day, I do exceed my goals often. But I also tend to be drained the next day.
Sure some other girls are getting shows that I'm not because of my attitude, but I have experienced a time when it wasn't a few dudes choosing between us for these shows. Most of us were just getting these shows without silly ass free chat nonsense.
Cutie101
12-13-2016, 06:28 PM
Yep, camming rocked way too much for me last week. Not is paying back in sucking.
Sucks big balls.
On streamate is fucking crickets. Empty. Same as Jasmin. I managed to upload a teaser video for the "selected" badge, after 3 weeks of rejection (been off jasmin meanwhile). And the room is empty. Fucking. Empty.
Indy sucks too. Wtf??
PrincessfromHell
12-13-2016, 06:40 PM
I mean if I worked at a fast food place and 9/10 customers just wanted to say "hi hru bb... im good to bb *user has left the restaurant*" that would be way less work for me, and I'd be getting paid hourly, and I'd still think that's a stupid as fuck way to spend my working hours lmao
this is hilarious! and yet true story. In less than 2 years into camming I have developed major allergy towards free chat. I stopped doing it. I might pop in freechat for 5 mins once in 2 weeks or a month (on IML) and ba boom these losers are there. I dont get how they manage to get there so fast. Yes, these sweet ass losers free chat lovers that might give you 50-60 bucks in 6 months here and there meanwhile being in your free chat fucking ALL the time. They were one of the reasons I started hating freechat. They think it is totally fine to sit there all the time (I am not a TV show!). This year is the worst I have ever had (nothing to do with camming just fam issues) and I am struggling with getting myself together and plus dealing with freechat - no thank you.
Custies on indy are way easier. Most dont ask for previews, dont ask zillion of questions, many pay for 10 mins and leave after 7 and next time dont ask for adding the left mins.... Maybe I am just lucky. But I cant stand having all the freeloaders for sleezy 30-35%. My heart just cant take it.
pippapippa
12-13-2016, 07:24 PM
Today has been just awful. No words.
Holly_xoxo
12-13-2016, 08:07 PM
this is hilarious! and yet true story. In less than 2 years into camming I have developed major allergy towards free chat. I stopped doing it. I might pop in freechat for 5 mins once in 2 weeks or a month (on IML) and ba boom these losers are there. I dont get how they manage to get there so fast. Yes, these sweet ass losers free chat lovers that might give you 50-60 bucks in 6 months here and there meanwhile being in your free chat fucking ALL the time. They were one of the reasons I started hating freechat. They think it is totally fine to sit there all the time (I am not a TV show!). This year is the worst I have ever had (nothing to do with camming just fam issues) and I am struggling with getting myself together and plus dealing with freechat - no thank you.
Custies on indy are way easier. Most dont ask for previews, dont ask zillion of questions, many pay for 10 mins and leave after 7 and next time dont ask for adding the left mins.... Maybe I am just lucky. But I cant stand having all the freeloaders for sleezy 30-35%. My heart just cant take it.
I didn't mind free chat 5 years ago when I first started because I was never in there for long but then alot of rooms seemed to become hang outs because the girls wanted that. I'd see topics saying "no pvts tonight, just hanging out" and some models were really entertaining in free chat. I didn't mind what was going on in their rooms but then these guys would come in to my room and expect the same from me. Ugh! no thanks. I'm on a site now where I don't have to do free chat.
PrincessfromHell
12-13-2016, 10:34 PM
I didn't mind free chat 5 years ago when I first started because I was never in there for long but then alot of rooms seemed to become hang outs because the girls wanted that. I'd see topics saying "no pvts tonight, just hanging out" and some models were really entertaining in free chat. I didn't mind what was going on in their rooms but then these guys would come in to my room and expect the same from me. Ugh! no thanks. I'm on a site now where I don't have to do free chat.
Honestly my hourly is better since I stopped doing freechat. No freechat since July and August and October were my best months ever with same hours put in. I don't get stressed that much.
I can be entertaining and blah but I refuse to hustle on the site that values me as much as 30-35% I just dont want to anymore. Freeloaders feel entitled like if it is a brothel I imagine them walking around with their "get me hard I'll take you pvt" BS with all girls lined up. I used to feel all win-win cha ching when converting a freeloader into a spender but not anymore when I know it takes me X2 more time to earn what I earn doing indy. I am not here to improve business for the companies that eat up the most of my earnings.
anonymous camgirl
12-14-2016, 09:22 AM
Speaking of IML.. when I was on there I had a particular customer that drove me crazy!.. he sat in free chat ALL DAY while at work and only spent about 5 bucks a month on me.... and this is before they even had free live video!.. my god.. couldn't even see me.
this is hilarious! and yet true story. In less than 2 years into camming I have developed major allergy towards free chat. I stopped doing it. I might pop in freechat for 5 mins once in 2 weeks or a month (on IML) and ba boom these losers are there. I dont get how they manage to get there so fast. Yes, these sweet ass losers free chat lovers that might give you 50-60 bucks in 6 months here and there meanwhile being in your free chat fucking ALL the time. They were one of the reasons I started hating freechat. They think it is totally fine to sit there all the time (I am not a TV show!). This year is the worst I have ever had (nothing to do with camming just fam issues) and I am struggling with getting myself together and plus dealing with freechat - no thank you.
Custies on indy are way easier. Most dont ask for previews, dont ask zillion of questions, many pay for 10 mins and leave after 7 and next time dont ask for adding the left mins.... Maybe I am just lucky. But I cant stand having all the freeloaders for sleezy 30-35%. My heart just cant take it.
ep2002
12-14-2016, 09:47 AM
I want to comment a little more on this topic. The idea of taking the time to talk to these 'whales' and engage with them & make them like us and pay for long(er) shows sounds fantastic, i wish i could do that myself cause i know then some guys could really like me a lot and give me their time & money :)
There are a few aspects to take into consideration when it comes to this kind of hustle: we are different unique individuals with personal preferences, cam style, etc. For me personally the time i am able to be on cam is limited to a couple of hrs due to health issues so practically speaking, i dont have the time or will to engage into convos in freechat, what i want from them is, u want something, u better come pvt to pay for my attention/service, for me time is money, i know what they want so they need to pay for what they want; maybe my hustle works like this cause i do offer specific niche shows so they dont come to me for convos or 'general fukery' as i read in some room topics but for specific things like a fetish or item i can wear for them, etc. Some do want general fuckery but they also want something specific like my hairy pussy.
Also, if u splitcam, ur attention is divided between a number of sites, u cant really pay attention to people to a deeper level when u need to pay attention to a number of chat windows actually and in every chat window there are several guys looking for our undivided attention.
I see it like this: I am the One that everyone wants attention from and they are many, too many LOL, each of them wanna talk to me like one-on-one kind of conversation, each of them want my undivided attention while i need to give each of them this attention, this is simply impossible for a human being to give attention to all these guys the way they need, i personally need to dose my energy in freechat not to wear off otherwise i get all tired before i get the 1st pvt LOL so i save energy for the guys willing to pay me and in freechat i interact yes but at a minimum level.
Not further than last nite i got this guy in my room who was very nice and sweet and made me a lot of compliments, he used a proper english to express himself, etc etc, i was a bit tired and lonely cause it was slow at the end of my shift so i talked to him a bit more than usual as he was the only guy in my room then just to find out after..8-10 mins maybe that he is from mexico and cant spend on me!
WHAT??!! All nice and good but where are my money??!! LOL
See, that's why i try to keep the conversation at minimum on SM because we dont get any info about the members there, where they from, if they have money to spend, etc etc; i think a guy will know very fast in a matter of seconds if he wanna spend on me or not, no matter how hard i try to make him spend, if he considers i dont deserve his money he'll not give it to me LOL.
Very rarely these guys take the time to know us, they normally horny and want an orgasm, if they have money & they like the girl they come in, the ones that take their time & try to prolong entering paid chat are either not horny or they picky or they have no money, so on.
My conclusion is, is a matter of preferences, every model works differently, has different length of time to be on cam, has different level of energy to keep going and has different health status, we adapt our hustle to our needs, if i have to get off cam in 2 hrs then i wanna make my money fast, if i can stay on cam 10 hrs let's say then i dont have to rush things :)
I agree with you that we all have our own styles & if I were a potential client I'd want to know if the girl was a bitch or not & chat her up for a min. or two first, but some of them want WAY longer than that chatting me up. Then when they start talking sex or ongoing "I love you" chat, I send my blurb that they have to pay b/c I know they are freeloaders.
And girls, you REALLY need to start telling guys they are paying for your time, NOT for specific acts.
On C4 (only on this site) whenever I took a Skype show they almost all thought we'd talk for free on SK & then only go on vid when he was ready to cum. I'm like NO, you are paying for my time, not any specific act. They always acted shocked like it show as sooo unusual. I'm like WTH, are other girls talking to them for hours for free?
I too have health issues so staying on for longer than 3 hours UNLESS the ball is rolling, is hard for me. You are lucky you are making the money right away. I used to at some point, but not any longer.
I find it hard to even take a break & then go back on for another 3 hours :(
ep2002
12-14-2016, 09:51 AM
this is hilarious! and yet true story. In less than 2 years into camming I have developed major allergy towards free chat. I stopped doing it. I might pop in freechat for 5 mins once in 2 weeks or a month (on IML) and ba boom these losers are there. I dont get how they manage to get there so fast. Yes, these sweet ass losers free chat lovers that might give you 50-60 bucks in 6 months here and there meanwhile being in your free chat fucking ALL the time. They were one of the reasons I started hating freechat. They think it is totally fine to sit there all the time (I am not a TV show!). This year is the worst I have ever had (nothing to do with camming just fam issues) and I am struggling with getting myself together and plus dealing with freechat - no thank you.
Custies on indy are way easier. Most dont ask for previews, dont ask zillion of questions, many pay for 10 mins and leave after 7 and next time dont ask for adding the left mins.... Maybe I am just lucky. But I cant stand having all the freeloaders for sleezy 30-35%. My heart just cant take it.
What does this mean? "Custies on indy"
anonymous camgirl
12-14-2016, 09:59 AM
I am excited to be going to the dentist for an exam to see about getting my amalgam filling removed and an early supper with the kids.. .. Crazy! I would rather go to the dentist than cam.. lmao
ep2002
12-14-2016, 11:44 AM
Yes camming sucks today! Last week it was a breeze and so easy, this week just the opposite! I hate the bipolar struggles of camming. Today everyone wants to tease me about getting a show and then they leave. Had a former good regular re-added me on skype just to tell me that since his fave camgirl wasn't on he figured he'd say hi to me. Well hi motherfucker, why are you wasting a half hour of my time just to say you are at work and can't do a show till "Maybe" later...yeah right....fuck off
LOL, I hate when they do that.
ep2002
12-14-2016, 12:01 PM
I am excited to be going to the dentist for an exam to see about getting my amalgam filling removed and an early supper with the kids.. .. Crazy! I would rather go to the dentist than cam.. lmao
I hope you are going to a very good holistic dentist. Most of them don't know what they are doing even though they label themselves that or they charge an arm & a leg. You have to be very careful when you get your amalgams removed. Thank gawd I found a good one years ago, but b/c of that, I learned that most don't know what they are doing, or they charge an arm & a leg.
While he was more expensive than a conventional dentist, when I was living in Vegas & saw another holistic dentist, I could tell right away they were just in it for the money. When I sent the paperwork to my REAL holistic dentist to take a look at b/c I was sooo stressed by what the dentist wanted me to do, he was shocked at the prices they wanted to charge me saying, "I'm in the wrong business."
Oh & my dentist Gary explains EVERYTHING to you after he takes a look. This idiot in Vegas got up from the chair, didn't say a thing, walked away & I was furious.
Once you have a good one, it's hard to go back to greedy assholes. Even the so called "holistic" dentist I saw before Gary was like that. I could just tell she was ONLY in it for the money.
Did you know that dentists often tell their patients they need fillings when they don't? It's a HUGE racket I found out about.
anonymous camgirl
12-14-2016, 12:11 PM
Yes I am going to one that My friend who used to be a camgirl went to.. she did all the research on which ones were good and she felt comfortable with.... Yea I am just going for an exam and I brought my xrays from my real dentist.. and I am not surprised they would make people get fillings who didn't need them.. My real dentist who is conventional isn't like that.. I waited over 20 yrs to visit a dentist.. and he said GREAT TEETH not a cavity.. just the ones you had prior to that.. maybe those weren't really cavities?...lol.. so only going for the filling and back to my regular dentist who does charge an arm and a leg with NO discounts .. doesn't even accept most dental plans..
P/S it's just like when doctors say you have CANCER and you don't just so they can make money off the chemo treatments.. always good to get a 2nd opinion.
I hope you are going to a very good holistic dentist. Most of them don't know what they are doing even though they label themselves that or they charge an arm & a leg. You have to be very careful when you get your amalgams removed. Thank gawd I found a good one years ago, but b/c of that, I learned that most don't know what they are doing, or they charge an arm & a leg.
While he was more expensive than a conventional dentist, when I was living in Vegas & saw another holistic dentist, I could tell right away they were just in it for the money. When I sent the paperwork to my REAL holistic dentist to take a look at b/c I was sooo stressed by what the dentist wanted me to do, he was shocked at the prices they wanted to charge me saying, "I'm in the wrong business."
Oh & my dentist Gary explains EVERYTHING to you after he takes a look. This idiot in Vegas got up from the chair, didn't say a thing, walked away & I was furious.
Once you have a good one, it's hard to go back to greedy assholes. Even the so called "holistic" dentist I saw before Gary was like that. I could just tell she was ONLY in it for the money.
Did you know that dentists often tell their patients they need fillings when they don't? It's a HUGE racket I found out about.
ep2002
12-14-2016, 12:13 PM
this is hilarious! and yet true story. In less than 2 years into camming I have developed major allergy towards free chat. I stopped doing it. I might pop in freechat for 5 mins once in 2 weeks or a month (on IML) and ba boom these losers are there. I dont get how they manage to get there so fast. Yes, these sweet ass losers free chat lovers that might give you 50-60 bucks in 6 months here and there meanwhile being in your free chat fucking ALL the time. They were one of the reasons I started hating freechat. They think it is totally fine to sit there all the time (I am not a TV show!). This year is the worst I have ever had (nothing to do with camming just fam issues) and I am struggling with getting myself together and plus dealing with freechat - no thank you.
Custies on indy are way easier. Most dont ask for previews, dont ask zillion of questions, many pay for 10 mins and leave after 7 and next time dont ask for adding the left mins.... Maybe I am just lucky. But I cant stand having all the freeloaders for sleezy 30-35%. My heart just cant take it.
Yeh, but how can you expect anyone to take you pvt when they can't even see or talk to you only for a few minutes? Do you actually make money? Maybe you have a lot of guys on your mailing list?
I did regular chat on IL once, but not ONE person came into my room. I called them to find out why as I didn't quite understand how it worked & that's when I understood they just don't see you or something like that.
IL is a very very bad site all around. The amount of freeloaders on there (even the ones WITH money) are amazing to me. That coupled with all the idiot foreigners from overseas promising a pvt if I only do this first (yeh I figured out that scam the first day), is amazing. I don't get that on ANY other site.
I find it very interesting that each site has the same types of guys. Either the freeloaders tell all their friends about it, or I don't know what it is, but I find most of the personalities to be the same on each site, but then different from site to site.
I didn't go onto IL for a while, but now b/c I can't be on CB, I have no choice. :(
When I make money, I make it fast, but then I spend TONS of time blocking assholes. You should see my excel sheet, it's ALL red & almost ONLY from IL
AND they somehow let these assholes rate your "Attentiveness Ranking" which is BS. So if I won't put up with Freeloaders, my ranking goes down??? How do they even gauge the ranking, does anyone know?
When I didn't know you could block the guys yourself & I used to go onto the CS forum to get them to do it for me, if I used ANY derogatory word in my description of what happened w/ the asshole, they'd give me shit for speaking the truth.
I can not STAND these sites that protect freeloaders. They make me SICK!
Oh & guess what else I learned. The "bump yourself to page one" thingy is BS. A few times I've used it & hardly anyone has come into my room. The last time I questions WHY & they blamed it on the fact that I haven't been online for a while. So why didn't they SAY that. I just lost money b/c they fail to tell you that if you haven't been on for long it won't matter if you pay for the first place ranking.
But even when I had been on for a while & I used it not a lot of guys came in. I think it's all a scam.