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BustyAmeera
03-22-2012, 05:47 AM
Hey bb's, have a good day BB'S.

shywebcamgirl
03-22-2012, 09:18 AM
This is the first pay period since I started my webcamming career that I will be making $0 in a pay period.

stupid.freaking.flu.of.doom :toldoff:

Oh the plus side, I've been making clips for my clips4sale store like a mofo. I am up to 55 clips! ;D

LolaBohemia
03-22-2012, 10:21 AM
what i'm taking from this thread and others is where I should be investing my time and NOT in investing my time. I guess you could say that since January I have been doing some cam 'spring cleaning' and focusing more on content creation. I am wanting to start camming more but I hear so many girls unsatisfied with certain sites that it leaves me wondering...should I even go back and put in my time? Should I seek out new avenues? I've been doing the latter and have had some luck but nothing that I am being 'faithful' to so to speak. Since I live in a 2 income household and most of my money goes towards medical bills I cam Part Time and work on content the rest. I set a goal to make $50 a day camming and anything extra is generally passive income.

So, since camming is sucking apparently, what are you ladies doing? I can't split cam until my new computer is built so I'm only camming one site at a time. I got SM to finally work and load and did somewhat decent the other day. It was 'ol reliable' that shocked me where I sat for 45 minutes and no one even touched the idea of a private show. Erg.

TheBrownFox
03-22-2012, 10:28 AM
LOL

RennaRyann just said "What's the dealio? Oh, I know...the girls from the trailer park are online charging only $4 for an hour long GOLD show!" LMFAO!

She's so funny because she's so chipper and sweet in her public chat, but she has no problem banning rude or begging guys when they need it. She's awesome.

ManyRoses
03-22-2012, 11:18 AM
Side note to OP (dear lord, I feel that I am taking my life in my hands):

Customers telling you that you "haven't been on in ages" doesn't mean a damn thing. I've had that once or twice, when a guy has popped up saying "where have you beeeeeeen bb, I haven't seen you in aaaaages!! Why haven't you been on?!?!" when I have been on five days a week.

My "real" regulars know to check my twitter feed, and they see exactly when I am on, and those guys have no problems finding me. Those that favorite me have no problems seeing when I am on. The guys that say "I haven't seen you bb" are the guys who log on whenever, and then get all butthurt that their favorite model is busy with her actual life and isn't on right at that exact moment.

I wouldn't put much stock in a "regular" who was not on any of my social media, who couldn't use my affiliate link to find my schedule, who can't search for my name, and who can't e-mail me (on the site) to ask when I would be on next and make sure they were there.

So I wouldn't take what a few random guys say as evidence that SM is removing you from whitelabels. Why on earth would SM do something that would lose them money??? Sounds like you maybe just need more devotion from those regulars!!

TheBrownFox
03-22-2012, 11:24 AM
Customers telling you that you "haven't been on in ages" doesn't mean a damn thing. I've had that once or twice, when a guy has popped up saying "where have you beeeeeeen bb, I haven't seen you in aaaaages!! Why haven't you been on?!?!" when I have been on five days a week.

My "real" regulars know to check my twitter feed, and they see exactly when I am on, and those guys have no problems finding me. Those that favorite me have no problems seeing when I am on. The guys that say "I haven't seen you bb" are the guys who log on whenever, and then get all butthurt that their favorite model is busy with her actual life and isn't on right at that exact moment.

I wouldn't put much stock in a "regular" who was not on any of my social media, who couldn't use my affiliate link to find my schedule, who can't search for my name, and who can't e-mail me (on the site) to ask when I would be on next and make sure they were there.



I agree, ManyRoses!

The guys who complain "How come you ain't never online?" or ask "Are you getting on cam soon, bb?" are usually the guys who don't spend money and freeload off of other guys' tips.

There are tons of guys on Twitter who are always on cam sites but never spend money. When they tweet you dumb shit, it's interesting to click on their names to see what kind of other dumb shit they've tweeted to other girls. LOL.

o0Pepper0o
03-22-2012, 11:51 AM
Ok, so I'm new to this forum...I joined because this whole forum is fucking FULL of very helpful information that I am going to read like a mofo!!!
ps- it was recently come to my attention thru regulars and my online camgirl pals that the reason I'm not making big money is not because I suck, but more because the sites I do work for are FUCKING.SLOW.
Lol with the traffic I get I still manage to get shows/tips from about 70% but since it's 70% of usually no one that's kinda the problem..lol
Branching out to some new sites with better traffic in the next few days, and I'm confident it'll help
As for content, I only reecently started making videos...and THAT was a good idea! They sell way better than image sets obviously, and I kind fo adore waking up in the morning to find I made money while I was dreaming..lol

kaiarose
03-22-2012, 12:41 PM
Ridiculous.

amberose
03-23-2012, 12:22 AM
These last few weeks have been going well for me but the past few days have been particarily slow.

I'm just gonna relax a bit on cam and try not to focus on the money so much...just so I don't go crazy lol. Make some moderate daily goals for myself.

Then just spend the extra time working on bringing in my own customers, my blog, clips4sale etc since obviously Streamate isn't doing a very good job bringing me all my customers :P

Sign up on another cam site just to switch it up a bit.

aleciaxxx
03-23-2012, 10:32 AM
I made the mistake of signing up through a studio but now I've chosen to stay with them so that is totally on me. the thing that really bugs me is the last 2 nights I logged on to SM and I've had quite a bit of quiet time in my room. followed by a wave of free loaders and cheap skates! it is incredibly frustrating. it makes me want to give up but yet I'll be on again tonight and I'll try my luck again! I'm hoping this lack of traffic is only temporary as it is really screwing with my ability to make money. 6.86 the night before last, 5.00 last night I'm gonna be pissed if I don't get at least one private tonight. maybe I should try getting on earlier, maybe staying on 5 hours in stead of 3 who knows I just know that right now it seems dead on SM and it frustrates me and it affects my attitude and I'm pretty sure the customers notice. some of them tell me I look bored. it's hard not to look bored when there is no body in my chat or the 1 to 5 people that are in my chat are not talking. last night when I initially started my gold show I got disconnected and had to go and collect the pledges all over again. I think it was my internet. my wire wasn't as secure as I thought it was. I've also noticed lots of traffic when I'm already in a private or a gold show I just wish I had that kind of traffic when I wasn't in a private or gold show. it's pretty annoying to see that and think damn! I could be missing out on more money!

ElianaIsis
03-23-2012, 10:34 AM
http://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?171278-The-General-Purpose-quot-Camming-Sucks-Right-Now-quot-Thread

Cam_Model_Jess
03-23-2012, 12:15 PM
It has been quite slow online. I'm having to work more hours and ::gasp:: different hours.

It's been frustrating and infuriating at times. But you know what, I'm sticking it out. Not everyone is. New people who are signing up to SM are disappearing very quickly. People who used to do well are getting discouraged, resorting to desperate-looking tactics, and will soon disappear entirely.

And you know what I'm doing? Patiently waiting for it to blow over. Yes, I've had to work more, work harder, be nicer to the guys who are paying, be true to the schedule I post, try new hours (and thus change my posted schedule) and on and on.... BUT I'm still making my goal each week.

Don't freak out, ladies. Your customers will know you're freaking out. You will look desperate and that ultimately leads to no one paying you. Exude confidence. And if you can't do that, sign off and gather yourself. It's soooo sad to watch camgirls freaking out online, talking about how bad traffic is, how the site sucks because it's sending traffic to other models and not them, and how no one is paying, blah blah blah. Customers come to you to get away from that kind of complaining from their wives and girlfriends.

You ARE cool, you ARE calm, you ARE collected, you ARE making a shit ton of money, you are NOT desperate. Exude that and you will make money. It may still be (will probably always be) inconsistent, but it will work out.

Breathe.

CourtneyRaine
03-23-2012, 02:10 PM
So glad it's not just me. I thought my hourly had recovered from having to take a week off from camming, but it seems to have slowed down quite a bit again. It sucks, but having to put an extra hour in every day to reach my goal isn't too bad. The good news is this slump has given me a great incentive to try out other sites and spread my perverted little wings :)

I agree with Cam_Model_Jess, this dry spell is bound to blow over. Not to say that every site out there will go back to "normal," but there will always be horny men and we will always be there to indulge them. Also, camming is very cyclical. I think I remember reading that things tend to pick up at the end of March? I was on MFC last spring and I didn't really pay attention to these waves the way I do now. Have ladies who were on SM last year experienced an increase in sales in April?

CourtneyRaine
03-23-2012, 02:20 PM
So, since camming is sucking apparently, what are you ladies doing?

Whelp, I am sticking to my schedule on my primary site (SM, the only place that I make anything decent on right now) but I've created accounts at two other sites and as of last night I have added a short evening shift at the second site for extra income. I don't know when I will fit that third site in, but I'm leaning towards finishing out this month doing SM 7 mornings per week and then come April only work there on my 5 busiest mornings and cam on the third site for my two slowest mornings to test the waters. I have never tried splitcamming, I don't think it would be good for my computer or my attention span :)

I'm personally not working much on clips, but that's only because I'm trying to transition away from camming and work on my side job so that I can eventually do that full time. I do feel like a busy little bee, but I think it will be worth it in the end.

Cam_Model_Jess
03-23-2012, 02:42 PM
In March of last year things started to pick up for me, but I was also trying out new things. So there are just too many variables involved for me to say that it was the time of year. However, I do remember thinking "wow, these men must be horny because of spring." I also know, though, that there were some new tax laws passed. So there may be more guys who are getting smaller returns/ owing this year, and that may be affecting our traffic/earnings.

However, I am a believer that camming income is cyclical, and I don't know that there's a definite pattern. I've tried to pin it down, but it's just not happening. I think that SM has also been dropped from some advertisers in favor of other sites, and that they are buying traffic from some less-desirable places. Also, there is different kinds of traffic; there is per-click traffic, which basically has very little earning potential for SM, just earning potential for the ones who are selling traffic to them, since their volume actually IS high. Per-click traffic does not really translate into revenue for the camsite/ camgirls. I hope that makes sense. I'm not fully versed in it, so it's hard to explain.

Keep your chins up, ladies. It's easy to become discouraged when traffic slows. It's even easier to come up with a "reason" why traffic is slow, to then come up with some golden date in the future when it will get better, and then be even MORE discouraged if that doesn't happen. But please don't feel too helpless. There are things you can do, such as making clips, etc., that can help you- emotionally and financially- get through this slow time. It's easy to allow yourself to feel totally at the mercy of ONE site and its trends. I find myself doing that. But it's a cop-out, and you ladies are better and smarter than that.

shywebcamgirl
03-23-2012, 04:14 PM
still.can't.fucking.get.on.cam.because.of.doom.flu

*sighs*

TheBrownFox
03-23-2012, 04:21 PM
I would never recommend that anyone "takes a break from camming until things pick up." There have been a lot of threads about cam sites being "slow" right now. But that doesn't mean that we should just stay offline and go watch t.v. :P Ever notice how it may seem dead sometimes, but you still see models are in private shows all the time? Or models are completing their room topic goals almost every time? That is proof that somewhere on the site there are guys with money to spend.

And how many times have ladies on here said "Things are slow this time of year. It will get back to normal in the month of ___." :P Wasn't someone saying the same thing back in December/January? I know that when it's time to pay bills, Sprint, etc. is not trying to hear excuses like "Well, I logged out of my chat room after 10 minutes because my best tipper wasn't in the room." LOL.

CinnimonKiss
03-23-2012, 05:43 PM
Omg My Vagina hurts!

Lovelyx
03-24-2012, 12:00 PM
Just because is slow right now on all cam sites (at least for me) that doesn't mean we should not put online and put to watch TV, because we need to paid bills, food, medicine, etc.. and watching TV wont give us one single cent for it. So even if we only earn $10 bucks in 4 hours....is $10 bucks that watching TV you wouldn't make...the good thing is that in my country at least $1,000 per month is lots of money, but in US, UK, etc life is expensive so you better keep your ass on cam online even if it is slow instead of watch TV =)

TheBrownFox
03-25-2012, 12:56 AM
Just because is slow right now on all cam sites (at least for me) that doesn't mean we should not put online and put to watch TV, because we need to paid bills, food, medicine, etc.. and watching TV wont give us one single cent for it. So even if we only earn $10 bucks in 4 hours....is $10 bucks that watching TV you wouldn't make...the good thing is that in my country at least $1,000 per month is lots of money, but in US, UK, etc life is expensive so you better keep your ass on cam online even if it is slow instead of watch TV =)



True dat. My son was at the library for a while today, so I used that opportunity to splitcam on AdultWork and ImLive, and I was glad that I did. I got some private shows in while he was gone.

And I'm finding out that logging into AW (even at times when I think the UK men are asleep) at "weird times" doesn't hurt, because sometimes I actually do get paid shows, and I'm thinking "Wow, it's 5 AM in the UK, and this guy is awake?" LOL.

Vlodina
03-25-2012, 01:24 AM
Camming sucks right now because... I'm too hot!

I know it's Scotland and it's cold, but with the heating off it's getting to be ridiculously hot in my camming room with all my lights on that I need. And I can't open the window because the neighbours would most definitely hear me! I can't do freeview naked obviously, and then when the guys pay me and get me naked they want me to sweat like a motherfucker doing other things! ;-)

Can't wait to move in a couple weeks! I'll be upstairs in a loft room with a roof window that I'll be able to open, and better natural light.

shywebcamgirl
03-25-2012, 09:09 AM
It looks now like I won't be able to work for another two weeks. :toldoff:

Incantatious
03-25-2012, 09:17 AM
I would never recommend that anyone "takes a break from camming until things pick up." There have been a lot of threads about cam sites being "slow" right now. But that doesn't mean that we should just stay offline and go watch t.v. :P Ever notice how it may seem dead sometimes, but you still see models are in private shows all the time? Or models are completing their room topic goals almost every time? That is proof that somewhere on the site there are guys with money to spend.

And how many times have ladies on here said "Things are slow this time of year. It will get back to normal in the month of ___." :P Wasn't someone saying the same thing back in December/January? I know that when it's time to pay bills, Sprint, etc. is not trying to hear excuses like "Well, I logged out of my chat room after 10 minutes because my best tipper wasn't in the room." LOL.

Damn straight... January was actually my best month so far.

I think it's put this weird psychology into me that whenever I see people telling me it's slow, or it's "not a great month for camming because of such-and-such", I get my war paint on and get HUSTLIN'!

You will never actually see Streamate dead, ever.. Unless it actually shuts down girls will make their money. All you need to do is decide if you want that to be you or not.

Lovelyx
03-25-2012, 09:20 AM
It looks now like I won't be able to work for another two weeks. :toldoff:

Why not??? if it is some physical situation that will affect your body or health if you move too much, you can try others categories like non-nude or friends and romance...when I had surgery to remove fibroids (like a c-section) I wasn't able to even barely move...but I need money cause bills didn't stop because I was out of surgery, I couldn't cam with toys or anything like that, so I move to non-nude category thinking this was gona be easier...but them pvt's started to come on non-nude guys asking me 'pls dance, pls striptease' and I did tried...but gosh!! it was hard, so hard that at 3 minutes of pvt I told the guy 'look, im sorry I can't dance or move, can you please pvt another girl' it was painful and hard..(is terrible to try to dance with a c-section recently on your body) so I moved to 'friends and romance' was cheaper prices per minute, but there I only talk in pvt and still make some money to paid stuff...you wont earn like in the nude categories but...something is something, like I said..even if it is $10 or $20 or $40 dollars...is money you won't make watching TV.

Cammi
03-25-2012, 10:03 AM
Camming sucks right now because my ISP has been throwing a shit fit for the most of the weekend and I've barely been able to log any cam time. By the time I was able to get online yesterday I was so frustrated at missing out on 8 hours of work I just couldn't be fucked (which is insane troll logic) :/

Decalyn
03-25-2012, 11:19 AM
Why not??? *snip*

Shy can't cam at all because she's got a really bad case of the flu. She's been making clips at least, but that's not exactly the best income for bill paying.

Edit; It's one thing to be recovering from surgery and still being able to chat on cam. It's another to try camming with flu symptoms.

Lovelyx
03-25-2012, 11:40 AM
Yikes!!! flu symptoms...no, no definetely she cannot even do phone sex online stuff....I'm sorry and I wish things will be easier for her, I didn't know she have flu, but I do hope she recover fast.

Vlodina
03-25-2012, 11:41 AM
Shy can't cam at all because she's got a really bad case of the flu. She's been making clips at least, but that's not exactly the best income for bill paying.

Edit; It's one thing to be recovering from surgery and still being able to chat on cam. It's another to try camming with flu symptoms.

Yeah, this week I have only worked Saturday and today, coz I was sick. No guy wants to see a teary snottery mess. X

TheBrownFox
03-25-2012, 05:42 PM
Yeah, this week I have only worked Saturday and today, coz I was sick. No guy wants to see a teary snottery mess. X



Sorry you've been sick. I was gonna say that if you're still a little sick, you could make a Clips4Sale video out of it. LOL. :P

TM1975
03-25-2012, 09:19 PM
Yeah, this week I have only worked Saturday and today, coz I was sick. No guy wants to see a teary snottery mess. X

I've actually seen clips of snotty sick messes on c4s, I think they sell LOL :) Hope you sick people feel better soon!

Vlodina
03-26-2012, 01:18 AM
I did some little clips of me sneezing, coughing and blubbering, but still need to put them together into a compilation! ;-)

CourtneyRaine
03-26-2012, 10:54 AM
Camming sucks right now for me simply because I am losing my patience on SM. I don't know if it's because I'm exhausted and cranky, but interestingly, I am really enjoying camming on my night site. SM guys, I just, I can't. I can't deal with the silent lurkers, the guys who get butthurt when I won't get naked for free, competing against $2 gold shows, constantly getting kicked off, the 25 second wankers, and just the quality of guys on there overall. I don't want to quit camming in general but I am so close to saying a big "Fuck You" to SM. I'm even thinking about trying MFC again which I swore I'd never do. I am just so over SM!

Phew, I feel better now that I got that out :)

anonymous camgirl
03-26-2012, 11:15 AM
It's really draining right now to me.. I never used to have to beg guys for shows before the recession.. I worked on many cam sites... as soon as i went back to free chat .. here came another paying customer.. i sat in free chat for a total of 5 mins max at a time before recession.. now it's god knows til when.. not used to free chat beggars at all.

Kalypso
03-26-2012, 11:24 AM
Camming sucks right now. I've been on for 4 hours total between a few sites and I've had 2 privates!! 2 fucking privates!! And today must be national save a ho day because the self appointed heroes are coming out of the wood work like never before. They're such hypocrites, bashing what I do yet they're right along with me engaging in the very activity that they're looking down on! What sense does that even make? It's like saying rap is the devil's music while blasting NWA in the background. Like how do you expect me to take you seriously? Ugh...

Rant over. For now.

anonymous camgirl
03-26-2012, 11:38 AM
Camming sucks right now. I've been on for 4 hours total between a few sites and I've had 2 privates!! 2 fucking privates!! And today must be national save a ho day because the self appointed heroes are coming out of the wood work like never before. They're such hypocrites, bashing what I do yet they're right along with me engaging in the very activity that they're looking down on! What sense does that even make? It's like saying rap is the devil's music while blasting NWA in the background. Like how do you expect me to take you seriously? Ugh...

Rant over. For now.

omg!! i know right?? i don't like the guys who sit around and spend money on you .. and pretend to treat you like a person.. then after they spend a bunch wanna see you naked.. that drives me nuts.... i try not to care cuz that's what i am doing here.. but it's hypocritical.

CourtneyRaine
03-26-2012, 11:57 AM
Yeah, I can't deal with the slow times in between privates. It's cool if members are talking and interacting, but dude, don't sit there for 10+ minutes silently judging me. How am I supposed to interact with my room when No One will talk? Unless they *like* watching me sit there talking to myself, looking all schizophrenic and shit :)

This morning I made more on MGF than I did on SM. That has Never happened to me before. Sign of the times, maybe?

Nah, I don't mean to be all doom and gloom, SM really is a great site, but I personally don't know if I have the patience for it now when I remember how different it used to be a few short months ago.

I'm off to go look up threads on how to bump up my abysmally low MFC score.

Glasses
03-28-2012, 06:09 AM
Oh goddam this streamate! I tried my brand new account and I don't even get creepers or freeloaders. It is so dead for me, that I got one freeloader, and I was happy for it, cause he talked to me at least! I use the encoder, and guess what, I got a sweet guy, who only commented a wow at me, and came in pvt right then, and after a minute the encoder disconnected. Great! I made 1 dollar so far.
I checked my cammodels link, and I look okay, I don't know why does every one run away from me. IF someone happens to come to my freechat, he leaves in the very the same moment. Like I hear the sound of someone coming in, but they are already gone then.. Grrrrr.

The poor dude, that was kicked off of our pvt, came back 3 times to my free chat, but he came and go as fast as I'm wondering if he was kicked off or what. Then I got a pop up message like: A system error occured.

OMG. I have stable 23-24mbps upload speed, dual core, c910, I doubt it is me.

CourtneyRaine
03-28-2012, 07:40 AM
@Glasses: Have you tried not using the encoder? I worked on SM yesterday morning and for the for the first two hours using the encoder everything was perfect, I actually did really well as far as privates. Then I had one guy, a regular who has spent money on me before, keep coming and leaving our private chat after 30 seconds. Back in free chat he would apologize and say he didn't know what was happening. I tried logging out and logging back in without the encoder and it was fine for the rest of the afternoon, we finished our private and I got a few more long ones on top of that. I also have good internet speed (28 download, 5.5 upload), sometimes I just think the site/encoder gets a little funky.

anonymous camgirl
03-28-2012, 08:14 AM
girls tell me.. I just started using encoder... on sm.. i avoided it because it seems very difficult to use when working on tons of sites.. it seems not worth it to log off to do shows elsewhere but SM which depresses me because that means less money for me.. am i wrong?? whats the easiest way to log off and on with this encoder??

Glasses
03-28-2012, 08:55 AM
@Glasses: Have you tried not using the encoder? I worked on SM yesterday morning and for the for the first two hours using the encoder everything was perfect, I actually did really well as far as privates. Then I had one guy, a regular who has spent money on me before, keep coming and leaving our private chat after 30 seconds. Back in free chat he would apologize and say he didn't know what was happening. I tried logging out and logging back in without the encoder and it was fine for the rest of the afternoon, we finished our private and I got a few more long ones on top of that. I also have good internet speed (28 download, 5.5 upload), sometimes I just think the site/encoder gets a little funky.

It was not better without it either. I tried without it, then with it, then that dude was kicked off of pvt, so I switched to hd t1 cable, but everytime he came into my free chat, he disappeared immediately, and then I had this system error. After it I had to go, I might try it again at night. I don't feel like going on other sites now.

HighHeelHottie
03-29-2012, 12:45 PM
I'm so over gold shows. It's such a waste of time. I tried everything to make my goal today. I did $5 for 5 minutes, $5 for 10 minutes, $2 for 5 minutes. I would sit on my ass and only do requests when a guy tipped, I'd tease during a whole countdown(which btw my countdowns were 10-15 minutes, and I did one 3 minute one when we were close to goal), I'd keep my tits out during 60% of a countdown, and still NOTHING. The most I got was $20 for one countdown ($6 my cut). This shit is so depressing. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I average about 10 guys in my room at a time, but there are points where I will have as much as 30 in there.

Incantatious
03-29-2012, 01:36 PM
I'm doing shit on SM lately..

My only retribution really is this: It's my fault. Not. Workin'. Hard. ENOUGH.

I made $158 my first night this week, and then my brain just turned into a muffin and was like "NYEH HEH HEH HEH HAAA! You can chill out for a day now!"
Next day came... Well I made $158 that night... I can chill for another and make up for it! ;D

I logged on the next day and I couldn't make up for it. Like at all. I skipped another day, and now it looks like my payout this week will be something like $260.

Must try harder next time Incantatious. Muffin brain.

Cammi
03-31-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm doing shit on SM lately..

My only retribution really is this: It's my fault. Not. Workin'. Hard. ENOUGH.

I made $158 my first night this week, and then my brain just turned into a muffin and was like "NYEH HEH HEH HEH HAAA! You can chill out for a day now!"
Next day came... Well I made $158 that night... I can chill for another and make up for it! ;D

I logged on the next day and I couldn't make up for it. Like at all. I skipped another day, and now it looks like my payout this week will be something like $260.

Must try harder next time Incantatious. Muffin brain.

This is me right here. Tuesday and Wednesday are the only days I really made an effort this week. I'm telling myself that at least I used that time to get physically and mentally ready to return to stripping and do an audition but that means jackshit until I'm back in a club

Juliette25
03-31-2012, 04:08 PM
I hate da cammin' right now. Dreaming of the day when all my other means of income will make my entire weekly goal and I won't have to sit in free chat. That day may never come but fucking dreaming of it.

Juliette25
03-31-2012, 04:12 PM
Nah, I don't mean to be all doom and gloom, SM really is a great site, but I personally don't know if I have the patience for it now when I remember how different it used to be a few short months ago.


God this is how I feel right now wtf.

TM1975
04-01-2012, 12:48 AM
girls tell me.. I just started using encoder... on sm.. i avoided it because it seems very difficult to use when working on tons of sites.. it seems not worth it to log off to do shows elsewhere but SM which depresses me because that means less money for me.. am i wrong?? whats the easiest way to log off and on with this encoder??

As far as working with the encoder to do more than 1 site at a time, just email SM support and ask them to put a break button on your account, that way if you get a private elsewhere you can hit the break/pause button and have up to 10 minutes without having to restart the encoder. If you don't make it back within those 10 minutes it will simply disconnect you. One thing that I noticed though, even if you use the break button the camera thing is still taking snapshots, so if you have snapshots enabled the ones that are taken while you are in the private on another site will be displayed. I would also suggest telling support that you prefer to just use one of your profile pics instead of snapshots if you plan to use the break button!

Hope this helps! :)

Cammi
04-01-2012, 10:38 AM
I know that this is the camming sucks thread but I just wanna throw in some positivity for you girls. After a couple of quiet weeks last night was the busiest night I've seen on SM in ages, the place was buzzing. I hadn't even been planning to take the day seriously but as soon as I got on cam it was private after private after private. I set a best new hourly rate by 10 bucks, my traffic was huge and the guys were spending.

So keep the faith girls, it does get better! :D

tinydancer23
04-02-2012, 01:21 PM
this is something i've been working out in my brain and the verified section and i wanted to post it publicly but wasn't sure where to post it. i didn't want to start a new thread, so i thought i'd post it here.

i'm not really into positive psychology/name it and claim it/the secret/whatever. so this observation doesn't have anything to do with that. and occasionally i need a place to vent too so i respect that people need to vent about how they're having a shitty day and i love that this thread exists because of that.

but i wanted to throw something out there as food for thought...
why does camming suck? stop and think about it. i see so many girls saying - camming sucks because it used to be easier/more lucrative/whatever. i wish camming was the way it used to be. i don't make as much money as i did last year/ten years ago/whatever.

there is such a thing as longing for the "old days," nostalgia, thinking that things used to be better and actively wishing that they would be the way they were before to the point of being in complete denial about change - to the point that it literally stunts growth (of yourself emotionally, of your business, of the situation as a whole).

anytime there is a massive change or shift in ANY situation, most people experience this. it is an actual psychological phenomenon. it sucks us in and causes us to stagnate. the fact is, things will NEVER be "how they used to be." ever. they might be better or worse qualitatively than they are in this moment, but they will never be THE SAME as they were 1 or 3 or 5 or 10 years ago. wishing for them to be the same is a completely futile exercise, a waste of time, and a vacation in the land of denial. just because our mind is capable of dwelling in the past does not mean that time, or the camming business, can live in the past or move backwards. time and camming are always moving forward. we have to move forward and shift our perceptions.

i think there's value in saying that we have to focus on the positive and adapt or die, but i also think it's important to name the one thing that is keeping a lot of girls from adapting - and that is wishing things could be the way they used to be.

in terms of the causes of the decline people are seeing...so many people throw around different reasons. some of the ones i've heard are: streamate bought cheap traffic, gold shows brought about the apocalypse, other girls are charging low prices and showing pussy in free chat, etc. etc. etc.

the truth is...you cannot control streamate (or mfc or whatever other site). you cannot control who is in your room and whether they spend. you cannot control what other girls are doing. you cannot control the availability of gold shows. so yeah, all of these things COULD be causes, maybe they are, but it really doesn't matter because you cannot control them.

what each girl is doing individually may not be the cause of declined traffic. i'm not saying we should all blame ourselves. BUT...we are all we have control over. so adapt. move forward. focus on what camming's like today instead of what it was like last tuesday or march 31st, 2001. obsessing over how camming used to be and about all the supposed causes of why it's not like that anymore isn't helping your bank account. but i can guarantee that logging in will.

loveshooks
04-02-2012, 02:00 PM
reading the above post as well as your post in the 'cheating' thread, all I can say is I've really f*&king missed you around here Tiny :goodvibes

tinydancer23
04-02-2012, 02:14 PM
reading the above post as well as your post in the 'cheating' thread, all I can say is I've really f*&king missed you around here Tiny :goodvibes

aww, this made my day :) i missed you too! :grouphug: :goodvibes