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h0ttie
05-16-2017, 08:20 PM
PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF i try not to post here but damn i have tried every trick i got and im barely making anything. i feel like i have a giant booger or something and no one will tell me haha. no one is even talking to me on any site im on

maddiebabe
05-17-2017, 12:05 AM
LITERALLY my 'ass off'!'
I put up a new big booty pic in my bio. Even though tons of guys came flooding into my chat room, nobody wanted to pay to see it.:'(
I'm so tired of the big booty phase, because in my experience, it only brings out more freeloaders and extremely rude men. They seriously make me want to quit camming.
I even did an experiment on some dating apps. Pretty face, nice boobs......meh response. Post big booty pics and my inbox became flooded with rude, and entitled pricks.
Irl, guys follow me around stores in a creepy way if my booty is popping.
I love the big boob and fetish guys. They're so much more respectful and fun.
Time to switch it up.
48055

That's funny I have actually been curious about if the big boob guys and big ass guys have different personalities/behavior. I have really small tits and a fat ass so I wouldn't know much about the boob guys haha

Bananabunny
05-17-2017, 01:08 PM
I'm so pissed I got scammed tonight and I tweet on twitter about it but no one of my goddamn 2k followers seem to care!! I just feel like I'm wasting my time on cam nowadays, my cam career seems to slowly come to an end. I'm having many more bad days lately than good days...god I sometimes wish I could become a Beauty Youtuber or something but I don't know jackshit about western make-up styles LOL
God damnit I need my vodka right now!! I can't pretend to be happy no more for these fucktards watching me without to talk nor to tip, I hate men so much!!!!

DahliaSimone
05-17-2017, 01:31 PM
Literally ALL of my favorite guys showed up in my room on SM today...within an hour of each other. On a Wednesday afternoon, to boot....not one of them took me pvt. Just a bunch of chatter. Like they sent out a mass email today, saying 'hey, ya'll wanna go piss Simone off today?'

SoloDesire
05-17-2017, 01:36 PM
Wednesdays are always my worst day of the week...and I wish I could afford to just take them off every week but I like having my Saturday's off lol. I very rarely ever make more than half of my usual daily goal on a Wednesday...today I'm $2 over that so I guess it could be worse lol. Fuck Wednesdays.

KarinaGiselle
05-17-2017, 03:39 PM
Is it me or is it uber criminal how many cheap bastards and beggars are right now?

Is something going on that I'm not aware of?

christylive
05-17-2017, 05:09 PM
I love to perform and provide entertainment. I'm on the fence with if it's camming that sucks or the platform that takes 60%+ per dollar for me and can't even provide traffic unless you factor in other Cam girls who go room to room under custie accounts asking is it bad for you too or white labels ran by cam girls in a last ditch attempt to save face. So does camming suck... or is it these pimp daddy platforms that suck....!? Does camming suck or is it these sinking ship platforms that suck!?

Lexilexxx
05-17-2017, 10:53 PM
I love to perform and provide entertainment. I'm on the fence with if it's camming that sucks or the platform that takes 60%+ per dollar for me and can't even provide traffic unless you factor in other Cam girls who go room to room under custie accounts asking is it bad for you too or white labels ran by cam girls in a last ditch attempt to save face. So does camming suck... or is it these pimp daddy platforms that suck....!? Does camming suck or is it these sinking ship platforms that suck!?

Hubby says it looks like camming is down all across the board. I hear him and his business partner talking and it seems to be on every site. I still hear people say it's the Economy...blah blah blah! Some days are better than other's, but I hate it all!!! I have to force myself to log on, camming 17 yrs. on Stream for 9 and fuck it all. I'm getting older and I really try to have patience to deal with these younger guys and I just want to throat punch 90% of my customers. Even if I log on in a good mood, it's ruined by guys who bore the hell out of me. Find a back up or something to help bring in more income to make up for the lack of traffic, personalities & deadbeats.

I don't know much about affiliate work, but there's a few models who are hardly effected by the slow down, so maybe push traffic, spam and figure out anyway to make $$$ of the ones that the guys go insane over.

maddiebabe
05-18-2017, 05:28 AM
Fuck today and these freeloadingass begging losers.

Mare
05-18-2017, 09:28 AM
I love to perform and provide entertainment. I'm on the fence with if it's camming that sucks or the platform that takes 60%+ per dollar for me and can't even provide traffic unless you factor in other Cam girls who go room to room under custie accounts asking is it bad for you too or white labels ran by cam girls in a last ditch attempt to save face. So does camming suck... or is it these pimp daddy platforms that suck....!? Does camming suck or is it these sinking ship platforms that suck!?

OMG!!! I thought I was the only on who takes exception and thinks it's another model/friend of model/studio when people come in asking how my day is going. I'm like what the actual fuck. I just give them the same answer as everyone else. I mean, if I know you or you want to c2c with me and ask me stuff- cool. If not- get on here and ask.

christylive
05-18-2017, 10:18 AM
OMG!!! I thought I was the only on who takes exception and thinks it's another model/friend of model/studio when people come in asking how my day is going. I'm like what the actual fuck. I just give them the same answer as everyone else. I mean, if I know you or you want to c2c with me and ask me stuff- cool. If not- get on here and ask.

I only know if it's another model because I ask. I even have model friends who come in and keep me company or drop in to shoot the breeze before they start their shift. Not that I have a problem with it, I'd rather have talkative models in my free chat over nobody at all. The company is appreciated considering :)

christylive
05-18-2017, 10:35 AM
Hubby says it looks like camming is down all across the board. I hear him and his business partner talking and it seems to be on every site. I still hear people say it's the Economy...blah blah blah! Some days are better than other's, but I hate it all!!! I have to force myself to log on, camming 17 yrs. on Stream for 9 and fuck it all. I'm getting older and I really try to have patience to deal with these younger guys and I just want to throat punch 90% of my customers. Even if I log on in a good mood, it's ruined by guys who bore the hell out of me. Find a back up or something to help bring in more income to make up for the lack of traffic, personalities & deadbeats.

I don't know much about affiliate work, but there's a few models who are hardly effected by the slow down, so maybe push traffic, spam and figure out anyway to make $$$ of the ones that the guys go insane over.


Oh, absolutely. I agree with you 100% - I'd be on the street if I relied only on SM. It's nowhere near what it once was. and I most certainly co-sign with needing to have multiple eggs in the basket. And there's SOOOO many factors that play into the current state of camming in general (speaking on big box) ... I still find it inexcusable for any platform that pays out .35 on the dollar to allow their platform to sink so hard. It's clear there's no more effort. It's all about accountability- performers get blamed for just about everything. Sure- there's times when it could be our setup or internet etc but it's clear when there's a bigger problem at hand and there's absolutely no way it's all our fault (sorry for going off topic). I hate things are like this, not just for me but for you as well. gotta keep chugging along, growing our other eggs in the basket and keep being the lady warriors we are! I can't believe my use to be high goals on cam are now being reached on text/phone platforms. Wow have times changed. And speaking of growing older, I just turned 30 and I don't know that I see myself camming in the next 5 years.. and affiliate work is always a hit or miss but always a great something to have under your belt because there's thousands of opportunities out there. I can really tell where #s are down on specific sites because my sales will be in the thousands and the next month barely in the hundreds and it's almost always consistent with what I'm experiencing on the other end as a performer.

Susperia
05-18-2017, 08:50 PM
In the last two nights I've made a total of $10 on cam. What the fuck is going on? I sat in free chat for an hour with 1 one minute fucking show.....what the hell? I've had traffic, but regulars are just gone! I hate the way this makes me feel....I have never had 2 bad nights in a row like this before....omg I just wanna cry.

NinaC
05-19-2017, 04:56 AM
In the last two nights I've made a total of $10 on cam. What the fuck is going on? I sat in free chat for an hour with 1 one minute fucking show.....what the hell? I've had traffic, but regulars are just gone! I hate the way this makes me feel....I have never had 2 bad nights in a row like this before....omg I just wanna cry.

Try two bad weeks! I even resorted to free chat this morning and am too scared for any man to come near me as I'll probably end up donkey punching them.

maddiebabe
05-19-2017, 05:47 AM
I'm so past the point of even giving a fuck yesterday and today. Completely zoned out most of the time and when I open my mouth I'm straight and to the point. I really don't give a fuck traffic is low I ain't gonna talk to u all fucking day unless u provide me something of value.

I only say hi if they have been in my chat long enough to make them go away by putting them on the spot. I mean fuck if u go away when I say hi u ain't gonna fucking pay at all and just trying to stare in free hoping I fuck up my splitcam and give away a free show or some1 tips to see something.

i really can't even pretend to give a fuck about these fuckwads today

SoloDesire
05-19-2017, 07:10 AM
Camming is changing ladies. Things are swinging back around to us just sitting and waiting for shows. No excitement, no conversation...just sitting, and waiting. And that's just fine with me...less effort because they don't deserve for me to be 'on' all day when they ignore me and aren't giving me anything in return. I'll just sit in front of my camera and sell. I don't even conversate with them anymore...they just get my sale lines and quick texts. They asked for listless, uncaring models by being dicks and that's exactly what they are going to get. When there's no more money left I'll move on. Sorry, not sorry.

PS. I know this sounds beyond negative, but that's just how I've been feeling lately. I have my good days...but I've had 3 really horrible days in a row so I'm just feeling super down.

bbwbrianna
05-19-2017, 07:31 AM
Fuck that these cheap assholes train us to be uncaring by barking orders without paying and expecting free attention all day. These guys need to know they get what they pay for. When they pay nothing they get nothing in return. These days I just try to make a sale as quickly as possible and if they ignore my questions about private and ask where I'm from or some other bullshit question irrelevant to shows I just ignore them until they go away.

Mare
05-19-2017, 07:55 AM
I never could see the point in giving them FREE anything. Attention, peeks, titties out before a gs. Nothing. If they want to see me "on" they have to pay. Period. Different hustles for everyone, but companies don't give away their product in hopes you pay for it. And me putting myself out there is more personal that that.

maddiebabe
05-19-2017, 08:05 AM
Idk some companies do the free sample bullshit or trial offer honestly.. But in the sex business we should not have to fucking give ourselves away for free at all to make money beyond posting some teaser pics/gifs/vids. It just makes my blood boil. I don't hate men in general but on the camsites I god damn well do because this entitled piece of fucking worthless shit behavior is just un-fucking real. I cannot get over it.

Just the other day a former regular comes back under a different fucking account to annoy me with the same ole shit that made me ban him in the first place. ie telling me what to do with my pussy irl, trying to scam me with gift cards for shows when he is ALWAYS dark purple on chaturbate (ie the highest rank), and motherfucking wasting my time. Of course I ban him once he logs out when I stop my cb room to do privates on sm (yeah u can do that on chaturbate- looking at u streamate fuck u).

These stalker make a new account to harrass you guys have got to be some form of serial killer sick rapist psychopath just waiting to be let out. I really do believe that 100%. That or they still live in momma's basement and ain't got fuckshit to do.

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 08:28 AM
That's the problem with camming.. I am on 10 cam sites and they are all SLOW at the same time!.. grrr.. why? oh why? it sucks.


Hubby says it looks like camming is down all across the board. I hear him and his business partner talking and it seems to be on every site. I still hear people say it's the Economy...blah blah blah! Some days are better than other's, but I hate it all!!! I have to force myself to log on, camming 17 yrs. on Stream for 9 and fuck it all. I'm getting older and I really try to have patience to deal with these younger guys and I just want to throat punch 90% of my customers. Even if I log on in a good mood, it's ruined by guys who bore the hell out of me. Find a back up or something to help bring in more income to make up for the lack of traffic, personalities & deadbeats.

I don't know much about affiliate work, but there's a few models who are hardly effected by the slow down, so maybe push traffic, spam and figure out anyway to make $$$ of the ones that the guys go insane over.

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 08:40 AM
I know!.. I don't understand the relentless stalking some of these guys engage in!.. I got a guy on Xmodels who is so annoying and I don't know if and how you can ban him.. He comes back everyday.. All because one day I said NO I am not marrying you what the fuck for.. this is a cam site.. get a grip.. so now he calls me names.. and abuses me every single day.. but tips me!.. a sick mother fucker.. I have repeatedly told him that he is an abuser and he needs to leave me alone and NO I will NOT give an abusive man another chance...lol.. but since I barely make any money on there.. I usually just log off the site when he comes around.

To add to the story , one day he turned his cam on in voyeur and I still was not bending to him, he started throwing a temper tantrum banging on his keyboard like a child!.. I fucking maintained my composure and started laughing at him for not getting his way.


Idk some companies do the free sample bullshit or trial offer honestly.. But in the sex business we should not have to fucking give ourselves away for free at all to make money beyond posting some teaser pics/gifs/vids. It just makes my blood boil. I don't hate men in general but on the camsites I god damn well do because this entitled piece of fucking worthless shit behavior is just un-fucking real. I cannot get over it.

Just the other day a former regular comes back under a different fucking account to annoy me with the same ole shit that made me ban him in the first place. ie telling me what to do with my pussy irl, trying to scam me with gift cards for shows when he is ALWAYS dark purple on chaturbate (ie the highest rank), and motherfucking wasting my time. Of course I ban him once he logs out when I stop my cb room to do privates on sm (yeah u can do that on chaturbate- looking at u streamate fuck u).

These stalker make a new account to harrass you guys have got to be some form of serial killer sick rapist psychopath just waiting to be let out. I really do believe that 100%. That or they still live in momma's basement and ain't got fuckshit to do.

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 09:50 AM
This is pretty much how I am these days.. and if they say are you here for money or fun.. what fun and what money? I said you gotta have money to have fun.. or else it's not fun!.. this is a business.. what woman in her right mind would want to cam for free and be taken advantage of.....


Camming is changing ladies. Things are swinging back around to us just sitting and waiting for shows. No excitement, no conversation...just sitting, and waiting. And that's just fine with me...less effort because they don't deserve for me to be 'on' all day when they ignore me and aren't giving me anything in return. I'll just sit in front of my camera and sell. I don't even conversate with them anymore...they just get my sale lines and quick texts. They asked for listless, uncaring models by being dicks and that's exactly what they are going to get. When there's no more money left I'll move on. Sorry, not sorry.

PS. I know this sounds beyond negative, but that's just how I've been feeling lately. I have my good days...but I've had 3 really horrible days in a row so I'm just feeling super down.

nattyfetish
05-19-2017, 10:25 AM
what happens with the freaking traffic in may ???? it's driving me crazy ! and summer didn't evan started !!!!

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 10:30 AM
I dunno but last May I was banking on all sites.. they couldn't get enough of me.. I honestly think it's something to with the Trump election... ever since November it's been a steady DECLINE on cam... he's bad luck for cam girls


what happens with the freaking traffic in may ???? it's driving me crazy ! and summer didn't evan started !!!!

winnipeg
05-19-2017, 10:32 AM
I dunno but last May I was banking and all sites.. they couldn't get enough of me.. I honestly think it's something to with the Trump election... ever since November it's been a steady DECLINE on cam... he's bad luck for cam girls

lol my worst week was the week he was elected!! Things were going great before then!

Glamourmilf
05-19-2017, 10:34 AM
I dunno but last May I was banking and all sites.. they couldn't get enough of me.. I honestly think it's something to with the Trump election... ever since November it's been a steady DECLINE on cam... he's bad luck for cam girls

Lets face it.He's bad luck for ANY vagina. #PussyGrabber

maddiebabe
05-19-2017, 11:20 AM
I am curious how you ladies are doing compared to last month..I know anonymous camgirl said something about the arduous month of April but my hourly was significantly higher in April than this month.

diehardcamgirl
05-19-2017, 11:30 AM
Man Cam4 is really bad today!! I only had about 4 viewers there, and about 100 on chaturbate. I think i'm going to ditch cam4 now?

Blovely
05-19-2017, 01:17 PM
I love to perform and provide entertainment. I'm on the fence with if it's camming that sucks or the platform that takes 60%+ per dollar for me and can't even provide traffic unless you factor in other Cam girls who go room to room under custie accounts asking is it bad for you too or white labels ran by cam girls in a last ditch attempt to save face. So does camming suck... or is it these pimp daddy platforms that suck....!? Does camming suck or is it these sinking ship platforms that suck!?

I feel the same. I feel like branding is more important than ever right now. I feel like if girls want to continue camming and survive this shitty climate they will have to branch out as many ways as possible. I keep seeing girls say what site should I try, what site can replace SM, I need a new main site, etc. Yes it helps to splitcam and to try new sites but from what I see and am experiencing all big box sites are shit right now.

I'm going to be honest I felt like camming was dying but I think big box sites are what's dying. Sure some ladies are still making bank on them but so many ladies aren't. I think there's still money to be made with camming but I no longer think it can be made on bbs. I think cammming has come full circle and indie will be the new/next wave. I think a combination of indie cam, phone, texting, clips/content, a personal site, paid social media/social apps, etc is where the money will be......aka putting/pushing your persona to the max.

I've actually noticed that more and more guys have been asking me if I have a personal site, sell panties, do skype shows, etc. I wasn't doing all that before because I was making enough with bbs plus working on bbs was so much easier. But that's the direction I'm headed in now because I'm not with this current fuckshit that is camming. I seriously thought about quitting camming or scaling down to part-time to get a "regular" job, I even researched it but I came to the conclusion that I'm not about that life. I'm not quitting I'm just going to restructure and keep pushing.

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-19-2017, 01:39 PM
I feel the same. I feel like branding is more important then ever right now. I feel like if girls want to continue camming and survive this shitty climate they will have to branch out as many ways as possible. I keep seeing girls ask what site is next, I need a new main site, etc. It helps to splitcam and to try new sites yes but from what I see and experiencing all camsites are shit right now.

I'm going to be honest I felt like camming was dying but I think big box sites are what's dying. Sure some ladies are still making bank on them but so many ladies aren't. I think there's still money to be made with camming but I no longer think it can be made on bbs. I think cammming has come full circle and indie will be the new wave. I think a combination of indie cam, phone, texting, clips, a personal site, etc is where the money will be for me. I've actually noticed that more and more guys have been asking me if I have a personal site, sell panties, do skype shows, etc. I wasn't doing all that before because I was making enough with bbs. But that's the direction I'm headed in because I'm not with this current fuckshit that is camming. I seriously thought about quitting or scaling down to part-time to get a "regular" job, I even researched it but I came to the conclusion that I'm not about that life. I'm not quitting I'm just going to restructure and keep pushing.

Thank you so much for posting this. I can't tell you how many post I've deleted and walked away from wanting to say this exact same thing. But I'm kinda tired of saying it. You are so correct. This is no longer about just logging in and putting in hours. These guys want a more customized experience and content is fucking KING. It's so true. It's just not the way it was. Everything is about branding. Who are you? What are you selling? They want to see your personality and feel good about spending their hard earned money. And If you want to stay in this business you have to acknowledge these trends. Great post. Please don't send me any shade. I came to help.

DahliaSimone
05-19-2017, 01:44 PM
Indie has been triple the amount of my SM income these last two months, which I never thought would happen, as SM has always been my bread and butter. On the off moments when SM is actually functioning, its glorious....lately, though, it seems like a fluke for it to be serving its actual purpose. I'm def. gonna have to branch out even more, take on some phone/text sites (I have always avoided them because I feel so awkward on the phone) and create my own content as well....because it sure doesnt seem like SM gives a shit if their ships sinks or not.

olianajaay
05-19-2017, 01:48 PM
well i finally had some great traffic for the first time in like a month but i got nothing. not even 1 measly dollar, im really embarrassed to say. just the typical losers and freeloaders that come in and out. or say hey then immediately leave after they hear me speak. some even have the nerve to be repeat pop ins. they come back in my room hours later when they already decided im not entertaining enough for them. like what is the point of that? what are these men thinking when they do that?? its dumb! im sorry for ranting but im EXTREMELY over sm (mainly). i have too much on my shoulders to even want to tolerate this bs anymore. this is the 2nd time i almost cried on cam bc of this complete turn of events. ive never been so stressed out.
i love camming a lot and dont want to give this up at all but all im getting out of it is me second guessing my worth every time someone immediately leaves my room or if i dont get tipped on token sites.
shout out to the girlies who are still making things work somehow. i would love to be as cool as you lol

maddiebabe
05-19-2017, 01:52 PM
Well I appreciate you ladies saying this, but it seems hard to get a personal site for me right now. Don't you need a lot of clips and other stuff? I am actually going to be making some, but it just seems like I'd need 100s if I get my own website? The whole panty selling I don't think I am so into with dna etc. I don't think phone sex is for me- my voice is not sexy at all even if I try, and the only time I ever had someone call me on niteflirt that wasn't a crossover cam client they hung up in like a minute. I am so demotivated about phone sex. I agree advertising indie seems to be the thing. I am not all that into social media and definitely not twitter- for me personally it sucks and I hate it. Some of these other social media that camgirls use I am reluctant to use on my phone such as instagram/snapchat but I want to try them. It just almost seems like I would need a second phone?

I would appreciate if someone could answer my question about instagram/snapchat/ any other camming related phone apps.

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 01:52 PM
Maybe because they cannot payout by check or wire transfer right now.. I quit working on there til they find a solution , as I don't want First Choice.. pay to get my money , pay to withdrawal.. no thanks like a check please!


Man Cam4 is really bad today!! I only had about 4 viewers there, and about 100 on chaturbate. I think i'm going to ditch cam4 now?

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
05-19-2017, 01:57 PM
I am curious how you ladies are doing compared to last month..I know anonymous camgirl said something about the arduous month of April but my hourly was significantly higher in April than this month.

I've already made more for the month of May than I did in April with 12 days left. But I didn't go that hard in April because I took some time out to work on other ventures not related to adult. I was able to take it easy because March was phenomenal. I am a camgirl,pso and content creator. I also have affiliate sites that bring in a nice chunk of money each month. I perform the bulk of my shows on skype and I spend about four hours a day using and interacting on social media and doing admin type stuff. Before anyone says oh my god FOUR HOURS? Ask yourself how much time you spend on SW,ACF or Wecamgirls each day and then decide if you still think that's too much. I've been doing this for almost ten years now and I've seen how things have changed and evolved.

Something else to think about if you're wondering where the traffic is, something I've noticed on affiliate boards is that many of them are mostly promoting camsites that aren't very popular around here. It's rare to read anything about affiliates pushing SM. Many of them are struggling to make money too so now they're focusing on programs that convert.

SpaceyLaceyButterfacey
05-19-2017, 02:18 PM
I am curious how you ladies are doing compared to last month..I know anonymous camgirl said something about the arduous month of April but my hourly was significantly higher in April than this month.
May has been much better for me than April. Feels like more traffic for me this month.

anonymous camgirl
05-19-2017, 03:07 PM
but that is nothing new... there was an indy site that was the bomb!.. called camgirlshide and he didn't take a percentage at all.. You made your payment arrangements.. I could easily make $2000 a week working 30 hours or less off that site back in 2006.. eventually he got tired of the site and sold it to someone for $30,000 who fucking ripped it all apart and it was NO MORE.. now this was back in 2006 and we were doing all that stuff.. so I don't think what you are experiencing is a wave of anything.. it's just where you are making money at this time.. I am on several indie sites and NOT making any money on them at all.. CMD I haven't made a dime on since 04/12!


I feel the same. I feel like branding is more important than ever right now. I feel like if girls want to continue camming and survive this shitty climate they will have to branch out as many ways as possible. I keep seeing girls say what site should I try, what site can replace SM, I need a new main site, etc. Yes it helps to splitcam and to try new sites but from what I see and am experiencing all big box sites are shit right now.

I'm going to be honest I felt like camming was dying but I think big box sites are what's dying. Sure some ladies are still making bank on them but so many ladies aren't. I think there's still money to be made with camming but I no longer think it can be made on bbs. I think cammming has come full circle and indie will be the new/next wave. I think a combination of indie cam, phone, texting, clips/content, a personal site, paid social media/social apps, etc is where the money will be......aka putting/pushing your persona to the max.

I've actually noticed that more and more guys have been asking me if I have a personal site, sell panties, do skype shows, etc. I wasn't doing all that before because I was making enough with bbs plus working on bbs was so much easier. But that's the direction I'm headed in now because I'm not with this current fuckshit that is camming. I seriously thought about quitting camming or scaling down to part-time to get a "regular" job, I even researched it but I came to the conclusion that I'm not about that life. I'm not quitting I'm just going to restructure and keep pushing.

Lexilexxx
05-19-2017, 04:11 PM
but that is nothing new... there was an indy site that was the bomb!.. called camgirlshide and he didn't take a percentage at all.. You made your payment arrangements.. I could easily make $2000 a week working 30 hours or less off that site back in 2006.. eventually he got tired of the site and sold it to someone for $30,000 who fucking ripped it all apart and it was NO MORE.. now this was back in 2006 and we were doing all that stuff.. so I don't think what you are experiencing is a wave of anything.. it's just where you are making money at this time.. I am on several indie sites and NOT making any money on them at all.. CMD I haven't made a dime on since 04/12!

I made great money of that site too! I miss it! I was told he got sued and was forced to shut the site down by law.

Blovely
05-19-2017, 04:11 PM
but that is nothing new... there was an indy site that was the bomb!.. called camgirlshide and he didn't take a percentage at all.. You made your payment arrangements.. I could easily make $2000 a week working 30 hours or less off that site back in 2006.. eventually he got tired of the site and sold it to someone for $30,000 who fucking ripped it all apart and it was NO MORE.. now this was back in 2006 and we were doing all that stuff.. so I don't think what you are experiencing is a wave of anything.. it's just where you are making money at this time.. I am on several indie sites and NOT making any money on them at all.. CMD I haven't made a dime on since 04/12!

I never said it was something new....I even said "I think cammming has come full circle". When I said indie I wasn't really talking about indie sites, I was talking true indie camming as in getting/pushing your own traffic for Skype shows and having them pay through sites like Iwantclips, C4s, Indiebill, etc. I said new wave because the most popular way to cam was via bbs. I think the time of depending on sites whether they're bigbox or indie for traffic and $$$ is no longer working/profitable. I think if girls want to continue camming they will have to start getting/pushing their own traffic. That was really my point.....we have to start being our own machines and brand to the max to continue making money. Expanding is key imo.

LizzyMe
05-19-2017, 04:57 PM
I feel the same. I feel like branding is more important than ever right now. I feel like if girls want to continue camming and survive this shitty climate they will have to branch out as many ways as possible. I keep seeing girls say what site should I try, what site can replace SM, I need a new main site, etc. Yes it helps to splitcam and to try new sites but from what I see and am experiencing all big box sites are shit right now.

I'm going to be honest I felt like camming was dying but I think big box sites are what's dying. Sure some ladies are still making bank on them but so many ladies aren't. I think there's still money to be made with camming but I no longer think it can be made on bbs. I think cammming has come full circle and indie will be the new/next wave. I think a combination of indie cam, phone, texting, clips/content, a personal site, paid social media/social apps, etc is where the money will be......aka putting/pushing your persona to the max.

I've actually noticed that more and more guys have been asking me if I have a personal site, sell panties, do skype shows, etc. I wasn't doing all that before because I was making enough with bbs plus working on bbs was so much easier. But that's the direction I'm headed in now because I'm not with this current fuckshit that is camming. I seriously thought about quitting camming or scaling down to part-time to get a "regular" job, I even researched it but I came to the conclusion that I'm not about that life. I'm not quitting I'm just going to restructure and keep pushing.

Excellent information. So True! I have been using the Big Box sites for a couple of years. The sites have been a great starting place for me to develop myself as a cam model and to develop my brand, but I now want to move on to Indie Sites to Cam on. I will use the Big Box Sites until I am fully into Indie sites. I do phone sex on Indie sites and that is consistent money for me.

Sunnylexie
05-19-2017, 10:21 PM
lol my worst week was the week he was elected!! Things were going great before then!

Same here. I have a feel him being elected has killed everyone's boner and it may take another year for them to recover.

TrifilinCamHo
05-19-2017, 10:42 PM
WOW y'all. Terrible Friday night. My fake smiling skills are being put to the TEST right now.

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maddiebabe
05-20-2017, 09:59 AM
I seem to get more and more people than ever before that come back under another account just to fuck with me thinking I'm really that stupid I can't tell or outright saying who they are and continuing same ole bullshit like it never happend.

wtf is it with these stalkers?

winnipeg
05-20-2017, 02:12 PM
Saturdays are usually decent but today has been so bad!! whats going on? :(

Kisha
05-20-2017, 02:35 PM
I wonder this too :((((

DahliaSimone
05-20-2017, 02:42 PM
Both Streamate and Indie were dead af for me today....I actually went onto Chaturbate for a bit....now THATS desperation, as im not such an exhibitionist, but I managed to pull in $40 just for showing my tits, plus a small show on SM and a short Skype show, so....still short of my goal, but....a little bit here and there adds up. Gonna try SM one more time before I pack it in for the day.....sad to see a Saturday so dead when usually Sat and Sun are my highest earning days. Hopefully I can make the last $23 for my daily goal and, if there is a miracle, the last $73 for my weekly goal.

anonymous camgirl
05-20-2017, 03:14 PM
Why do these guys always gotta ruin your good mood? WHY!

maddiebabe
05-20-2017, 05:33 PM
Oh I'm not in a bad mood I just don't understand this obsessive stalker serial rapist behavior. They just go the extra 10 miles to be pieces of shit. Like why? Don't they have to take time off from masturbating to do some work so they can spend their earnings on women? I am genuinely confused.

Bananabunny
05-21-2017, 07:15 PM
On night like these where everyone watches me, no wait, STARES at me without to do anything I'm always asking myself...What am I supposed to fucking do? What are they waiting for? To spread my pussy two seconds after they entered for free? To juggle 10 XXL dicks with my two hands? Fucking an elephant? It makes me so perplex how everyone just fucking watches and never says a word. Or those pissheads who come in when someone tipped and I'm naked or something and they still just pop in and out.

I'm glad my evening (European times) wasn't so bad but these evening times in America shows are just...useless lately. I'm glad I speak a few European languages to catch some big European fishes, but whenever I'm online in the middle of the fucking nights for lunatic Americans (sorry for those who aren't and who belong to the good side! I have a few of these too but less) who are greedy to hell and back and blame their economics to not pay us sexworkers...Sorry but we in Europe have way bigger problems yet Europeans WILL pay me, why not Americans??

I recommend for anyone who has problems with their current camming schedule, get online on another evening-timezone!! Believe me that may be the solution to your problem. it was for me at least.

Sorry for my little rant. I hope everyone is doing good!

laurielegs
05-21-2017, 08:49 PM
I need to stop trying to work Sunday nights. They seem to be always dead for me and I forget sometimes how bad it can be. I guess everyone is focusing on the work week starting.