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maddiebabe
06-06-2017, 07:11 AM
It's the brutal cycle, the less camgirls make, the bitchier they get, the less the customers want to spend. The challenge is to persevere beyond that and act as if you are not in dire straits. Or, just move to Finland and get a living wage.
Is it really that easy in Finland?
LoraDoll
06-06-2017, 10:08 AM
^ I wondered on the same thing. What is this thing with Finland? o.O
hyori
06-06-2017, 11:17 AM
^^ Yes, it's true, Finland takes care of the unemployed with a basic living wage. It's different from welfare in that it actually does cover all living expenses.
It will also be implemented in Canada as a trial.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jan/03/finland-trials-basic-income-for-unemployed
Finland trials basic income for unemployed
Government hopes two-year social experiment will cut red tape, reduce poverty and boost employment
Finland has started paying a basic income of €560 a month to randomly selected unemployed people.
Finland has started paying a basic income of €560 a month to randomly selected unemployed people. Photograph: Guenter Artinger/EPA
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Jon Henley European affairs correspondent
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Tuesday 3 January 2017 18.15 GMT First published on Tuesday 3 January 2017 01.59 GMT
Finland has become the first country in Europe to pay its unemployed citizens an unconditional monthly sum, in a social experiment that will be watched around the world amid gathering interest in the idea of a universal basic income.
Under the two-year, nationwide pilot scheme, which began on 1 January, 2,000 unemployed Finns aged 25 to 58 will receive a guaranteed sum of €560 (£475). The income will replace their existing social benefits and will be paid even if they find work.
Kela, Finland’s social security body, said the trial aimed to cut red tape, poverty and above all unemployment, which stands in the Nordic country at 8.1%. The present system can discourage jobless people from working since even low earnings trigger a big cut in benefits.
“For someone receiving a basic income, there are no repercussions if they work a few days or a couple of weeks,” said Marjukka Turunen, of Kela’s legal affairs unit. “Working and self-employment are worthwhile no matter what.”
The government-backed scheme, which Kela hopes to expand in 2018, is the first national trial of an idea that has been circulating among economists and politicians ever since Thomas Paine proposed a basic capital grant for individuals in 1797.
Attractive to the left because of its promise to lower poverty and to the right – including, in Finland, the populist Finns party, part of the ruling centre-right coalition – as a route to a leaner, less bureaucratic welfare system, the concept is steadily gaining traction as automation threatens jobs.
A survey last year by Dalia Research found that 68% of people across all 28 EU member states would “definitely or probably” vote in favour of some form of universal basic income, also known as a citizens’ wage, granted to everyone with no means test or requirement to work.
In a referendum last year 75% of Swiss voters rejected a basic income scheme, but that proposal – to give every adult an unconditional minimum monthly income of SFr2,500 (£1,980) – would have meant increasing welfare spending from 19.4% to around a third of the country’s GDP, and did not have government backing.
Basic income experiments are also due to take place this year in several cities in the Netherlands, including Utrecht, Tilburg, Nijmegen, Wageningen and Groningen. In Utrecht’s version, called Know What Works, several test groups will get a basic monthly income of €970 under slightly different conditions.
One will get the sum as unemployment benefit, with an obligation to seek work – and sanctions – attached. Another will get it unconditionally, whether or not they seek work. A third will get an extra €125 providing they volunteer for community service. Another will get the extra €125 automatically, but must give it back if they do not volunteer.
The Italian city of Livorno began giving a guaranteed basic income of just over €500 a month to the city’s 100 poorest families last June, and expanded the scheme to take in a further 100 families on 1 January. Ragusa and Naples are considering similar trials.
In Canada, Ontario is set to launch a C$25m (£15m) basic income pilot project this spring. In Scotland, local councils in Fife and Glasgow are looking into trial schemes that could launch in 2017, which would make them the first parts of the UK to experiment with universal basic income.
Basic income for all: a 500-year-old idea whose time has come?
The Green party in the UK has supported the idea of a citizen’s wage, partly owing to rapidly increasing job insecurity and the rise of the gig economy, and partly owing to the massive costs associated with administering increasingly complex and unwieldy welfare systems.
Proponents of universal basic income argue that it can be more efficient and more equitable than traditional welfare systems, and will also protect people better as economies change through automation.
“Credible estimates suggest it will be technically possible to automate between a quarter and a third of all current jobs in the western world within 20 years,” Robert Skidelsky, professor of political economy at the University of Warwick, said in a paper last year.
He said a universal basic income that grew in line with productivity “would ensure the benefits of automation were shared by the many, not just the few.”
Economists Howard Reed and Stewart Lansley saw further benefits in a report for Compass last year. As well as a solid income base in an age of increasing economic and social insecurity, a universal basic income would offer “financial independence and freedom of choice for individuals between work and leisure, education and caring, while recognising the huge value of unpaid work,” they said.
Opponents, including the Conservative government which rejected a call from the Scottish National party last year for a basic income scheme, see it as unaffordable and unlikely to incentivise people to find work.
SuperPookie
06-06-2017, 01:44 PM
Yea .. I am with you!. where are all the REAL men? Not in my room that's for damn sure as I'm lucky to make minimum wage this week.
LoraDoll
06-06-2017, 05:16 PM
what are these losers on Jasmin who just keep coming back, after banned them 10.000.000 times already and keep talking like we are best friends ever. All day long, any time I log in I see those same pathetic people and I can t get rid of them. Ofc never ever payed a cent or anything.
Naming a few: Darkem, lonewolf (if i dont respond that idiot start to talk to himself) boobie , GENTLEMAN, and many more. And it s not that they fuck off once in this life, they ll be even more in time. Once I had well paying regulars. Now these....
Note to myself: I started doing okay again during morning/ daytime. Somehow it seems like there are more "cultured" people on cam during that time. At least, it worked for me. Now i m on again tonight. Once again I try to cam tonight , someone pls hit me with a rock on the head. Not ever again! Beggars timewasters, only 2 min guys maybe, and to make it better they are rude as fuck.
sexysusie
06-06-2017, 06:01 PM
What if you're making money just fine but camming still SUCKS cause you fucking hate it? Ugh I am so done with this game. I roll my eyes if i have to so much as get out of my seat and change my outfit. In fact i just shut off my cam knowing there was a guy coming back into private expecting me as a secretary, seriously it's that bad! They should just give me money for nothing!!!! ugh
maddiebabe
06-06-2017, 11:56 PM
These guys that keep asking to see face and freeload piss me off. So I'm supposed to show you how bored out of my mind I look and lose sales for that? No thanks.
maddiebabe
06-06-2017, 11:59 PM
what are these losers on Jasmin who just keep coming back....
Have you tried another site?
Arwen25
06-07-2017, 04:49 AM
What if you're making money just fine but camming still SUCKS cause you fucking hate it? Ugh I am so done with this game. I roll my eyes if i have to so much as get out of my seat and change my outfit. In fact i just shut off my cam knowing there was a guy coming back into private expecting me as a secretary, seriously it's that bad! They should just give me money for nothing!!!! ugh
Omg Susie..THIS! This, exactly. I get such a rush when I do an amazing show but the amusement I used to sometimes get has gone. I will literally shake my boobs in the cam and roll my eyes out of view. It's awful lol. I don't know what to do..I may have to look up a thread on careers post-camming. The idea of working for someone else now makes me want to shudder and break down in tears though. Maybe I'll do massage therapy alongside my Business Masters'..or personal training or something. They're things I enjoy. This is the closest post I've seen to exactly how I feel!
maddiebabe
06-07-2017, 05:56 AM
I have the bad habit of posting too early into my shift about it being bullshit, but I can safely say today is extremely slow as I am almost at the end and this is just impossibly bad. Slowest in weeks.
anonymous camgirl
06-07-2017, 06:23 AM
I have been rolling my eyes off cam for years and I have done just that.. log out or something when they want me to do something extraordinary!...lol... I rarely change an outfit.. gotta pay me the big bucks to do that shit!
What if you're making money just fine but camming still SUCKS cause you fucking hate it? Ugh I am so done with this game. I roll my eyes if i have to so much as get out of my seat and change my outfit. In fact i just shut off my cam knowing there was a guy coming back into private expecting me as a secretary, seriously it's that bad! They should just give me money for nothing!!!! ugh
LoraDoll
06-07-2017, 06:56 AM
Actually, I just looked at Jasmin on facebook. They are promoting modells like we are here for a date. In many cases.
There are comments aswell at the photos and people who like them. Just look at those faces. Jesus.
All of them are the poor asian /african people I mean... I m not racist. I dont have a problem with any kind of people but they are not the ones who u want in your room.
So this is the "mass" what we get now, it seems. And I was confused, why these people in my room looks so stupid and broke now, like never before.
Beside free porn sites, I bet, many of the freeloaders come from fb. The ones who think it s a tv, and we wait soooo much to date with them, or anything.
As the irritation level and slowness goes up the money I can get goes down. If things ll go this direction slowly... who ll do this job, like... 5-10 yrs later? o.O
I mean... if it ll go like this what seems to happen, than u ll have 2 choices:
Do massive bullshit and work free as crazy on a private based site, so u can fish someone in. Maybe.
If u dont work for free, but u are a good modell and just showing attention in free, u ll sit here all day long and get all the poor brokes in ur room.
it s not too bad yet, but I bet a few yrs, and if things go like this, than camming ll be the creeping hell itself.
maddiebabe
06-07-2017, 07:03 AM
I agree with all you said above 1 million fucking percent holy shit. You definitely need something else you are qualified in or that you can immediately start doing when working in this biz cuz its all going to shit.
hyori
06-07-2017, 09:10 AM
What if you're making money just fine but camming still SUCKS cause you fucking hate it? Ugh I am so done with this game. I roll my eyes if i have to so much as get out of my seat and change my outfit. In fact i just shut off my cam knowing there was a guy coming back into private expecting me as a secretary, seriously it's that bad! They should just give me money for nothing!!!! ugh
I was there. I found the entirety of camming so disgusting. I would see my toys and get nauseated. My regulars disgusted me through no fault of their own. I would walk by my cam room and get heart palpitations. It's the same symptoms as PTSD. Depression, guilt, anger, and this frustration about why the fuck can't I just suck it up and get the fuck on cam. Why am I being so entitled and spoiled? I have it so much better now...etc. That's when you need to concentrate and find clarity on what exactly you want from your life. Then, change whatever you need to change to make it more bearable until you find something better.
Arwen25
06-07-2017, 09:19 AM
You have a way of writing just how I am feeling, Hyori.. though I struggle, personally, to verbalise it. I haven't had the actual nausea thing..though now you mention it, I think I may have had a little. I've definitely felt actual disgust towards regulars - even those who seem fairly decent people. :(
I have a degree, I'm currently doing a master too but have yet to find anything I can tolerate. I'm not sure I am even doing my MSc for the right reasons..ugh. I should have just worked extra hard when I started and opened a cat sanctuary or something..goodness knows if I'll ever find anything I truly enjoy, or at least makes me relatively content. Maybe it's a case of the grass always being greener? I dunno but Susie's post is pretty much EXACTLY how I feel, too.
seashell
06-07-2017, 10:23 AM
^I just have to add that the PTSD thing is so real. I haven't gotten there with camming yet, but stripping has done that to me... especially the nausea and heart palpitations. I'm glad camming exists, but I can only tolerate sex work for so long before I need to go back to vanilla work.
Last night camming was pissing me off because I had a timewaster on Skype telling me how he wanted to suck my nipples, fuck me, etc., never actually buying a show. Like why the fuck would I want to hear you talk about that dude? You think camgirls want to fuck every faceless Skype member that contacts us from the depths of the internet? Ugh lol
Arwen25
06-07-2017, 10:47 AM
Ew.. I hate that. I ban at the slightest hint of that, now. I am not one of those who can hustle people like that. Just no.
What do you think is the root cause of the PTSD? Sorry if I it sounds thick; it just might help me understand some of my own issues. X
seashell
06-07-2017, 11:01 AM
Ew.. I hate that. I ban at the slightest hint of that, now. I am not one of those who can hustle people like that. Just no.
What do you think is the root cause of the PTSD? Sorry if I it sounds thick; it just might help me understand some of my own issues. X
Everyone's different, but I had a traumatic experience with stripping and escorting a long time ago. I developed some disordered ways of coping with it. Being in a highly sexual environment where I'm objectified and treated badly just brings back a lot of emotion and anxiety. I can still work, but I have to be careful about my mental health/avoiding anything too upsetting.
Cutie101
06-07-2017, 12:26 PM
Camming sucks big balls, especially because I am on period and my gyno forbidden me to ever use internal tampons again (only in situations I really have to and should be rare ones). Because that caused my wounds on cervix and bla bla bla...
So, here I am sitting on cam, being able only to go topless in private and nothing more and of course, the assholes who want "pussy bb" decided all to come today in my room and those who only want to chat, vanished in the stratosphere.
And no, I don't do period fetishes. I am not that open minded :))).
Waiting for a whale to save my night and only want to chat in pvt like...
https://media.giphy.com/media/PWfHC8ogZpWcE/giphy.gif
MissRoxxxie
06-07-2017, 03:08 PM
I feel like I'm in actual hell. WTF happened to all the good custies cos these ones are complete trash
christylive
06-07-2017, 04:50 PM
I feel like I'm in actual hell. WTF happened to all the good custies cos these ones are complete trash
i swear it's some invasion of the body snatchers type ish... as if one day all the decent spending men got swapped out for dumpster diving trolls *insert dramatic eye roll*
sexysusie
06-07-2017, 07:44 PM
I was there. I found the entirety of camming so disgusting. I would see my toys and get nauseated. My regulars disgusted me through no fault of their own. I would walk by my cam room and get heart palpitations. It's the same symptoms as PTSD. Depression, guilt, anger, and this frustration about why the fuck can't I just suck it up and get the fuck on cam. Why am I being so entitled and spoiled? I have it so much better now...etc. That's when you need to concentrate and find clarity on what exactly you want from your life. Then, change whatever you need to change to make it more bearable until you find something better.
I need big money quickly lol. Sure I have other things that make me money but this is the quickest way and the most lucrative. Something to make it more bearable is what i need for sure!
maddiebabe
06-08-2017, 04:47 AM
Today and yesterday are unbelievably dead. Like I have never had 2 days in a row before that I am not even hitting min wage. I normally hit a few times that so this is straight up fucking bullshit. I need to log out and fucking cry.
This job is a fucking worthless piece of shit.
seashell
06-08-2017, 09:01 AM
TMI warning... I don't know where else to vent about this lol...
The other night I had a video chat on Phrendly, and the guy's camera became blurry all of a sudden. At first I was like YESSS because I hate watching customers lol... but then he apologized for cumming on his camera o_O And he kept video chatting for about 5 more mins without cleaning it. *gag*
Girly_Girl
06-08-2017, 09:12 AM
Camming sucks big balls, especially because I am on period and my gyno forbidden me to ever use internal tampons again (only in situations I really have to and should be rare ones). Because that caused my wounds on cervix and bla bla bla...
So, here I am sitting on cam, being able only to go topless in private and nothing more and of course, the assholes who want "pussy bb" decided all to come today in my room and those who only want to chat, vanished in the stratosphere.
And no, I don't do period fetishes. I am not that open minded :))).
Waiting for a whale to save my night and only want to chat in pvt like...
https://media.giphy.com/media/PWfHC8ogZpWcE/giphy.gif
Hope you don't mind me asking but What kind of internal wounds did u have? Were u using the sea sponge? I use the sea sponges when I am on my monthly and camming reason I'm asking?
Today is worse than dead. $3 in the last hour. Still trying to make payout. Thursday. You suck. Plus monday and tuesday. Now lately also sunday. WTFFFFFFF is going on??
AlisonSparks
06-08-2017, 01:04 PM
Hey, dear cam models! Just came here to tell about something that makes me really sad. So, I've been a camgirl for already 6 months now. Until this period I've felt super passionate and interested in everything that had something to with it. I've never lost hope. I've been camming on Bongacams but left because of all the beggars, I've been camming on Naked but left cause I didn't feel successful. Then I tried Flirt4free but it was full of freeloaders and guests and I had no chance to block or silence them, so I'm not camming there either, although my account is still active.
Two of the sites that I used to like were Chaturbate and MFC. I started out strong, made lots of money at the beginning and felt great cause I could just be myself and earn some money... for a while. Now it seems like everything's just going down the hill no matter, how much effort I put in. I still have a new model status but I can get only like 15 people in my room now (best case scenario). Most of them just come in and silently watch me without tipping, some others just peek in and leave as soon as I say hello. If I'm lucky, maybe 2 regulars come there to compliment me and tip me a little. When it comes to Chaturbate, I can't get and keep people in my room at all. Most just peek in and leave as soon as I greet them but some silently watch.
The best part of camming for me was always socializing and getting to know people but now it all is just... gone. Now matter, how pretty my makeup is, how nice my clothes are, what kind of games I play, only few people are interested in me...:-[:'( I feel so shitty about this and can't figure out what's wrong with me. It maks me feel shitty not only as a camgir but also as a person. Like I'm not good enough. Other camgirls are out there, making 100's and 1000's a week and I just fail. I don't know what to do. I feel like there's no need for me to continue doing this, although I really loved it.:(
TrifilinCamHo
06-08-2017, 08:22 PM
Jesus christ it is soooo bad tonight awful traffic and NO ONE is talking let alone spending. If I wasn't way behind on my goal for the week I would not even be working right now.
https://media.giphy.com/media/za2RiAGIvCzjq/giphy.gif
Blovely
06-08-2017, 11:20 PM
Hey, dear cam models! Just came here to tell about something that makes me really sad. So, I've been a camgirl for already 6 months now. Until this period I've felt super passionate and interested in everything that had something to with it. I've never lost hope. I've been camming on Bongacams but left because of all the beggars, I've been camming on Naked but left cause I didn't feel successful. Then I tried Flirt4free but it was full of freeloaders and guests and I had no chance to block or silence them, so I'm not camming there either, although my account is still active.
Two of the sites that I used to like were Chaturbate and MFC. I started out strong, made lots of money at the beginning and felt great cause I could just be myself and earn some money... for a while. Now it seems like everything's just going down the hill no matter, how much effort I put in. I still have a new model status but I can get only like 15 people in my room now (best case scenario). Most of them just come in and silently watch me without tipping, some others just peek in and leave as soon as I say hello. If I'm lucky, maybe 2 regulars come there to compliment me and tip me a little. When it comes to Chaturbate, I can't get and keep people in my room at all. Most just peek in and leave as soon as I greet them but some silently watch.
The best part of camming for me was always socializing and getting to know people but now it all is just... gone. Now matter, how pretty my makeup is, how nice my clothes are, what kind of games I play, only few people are interested in me...:-[:'( I feel so shitty about this and can't figure out what's wrong with me. It maks me feel shitty not only as a camgir but also as a person. Like I'm not good enough. Other camgirls are out there, making 100's and 1000's a week and I just fail. I don't know what to do. I feel like there's no need for me to continue doing this, although I really loved it.:(
Its not you girlie. If you read the last year or so of this thread as well as other threads on here you will see that camming has changed in the last few years and especially with in these last few months (US Election is when it really started to shift). Sites don't seem to have as much traffic as they use to and guys don't seem to be spending like they use to. I'll say again what I've been saying these last few months.... its time to expand. Over are the times when you can only work 1 site or a few sites or log on and make money. Over the years I've bounced back and fourth from camming on only Streamates to splitcamming. During that time I tried doing clips but didn't really like it so I stuck to camming. Now that I can no longer make my daily/weekly/monthly goal or make enough to pay my bills from camming on big box sites I have no choice but to change up what I'm doing. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. I'm finally listening to what many ladies have been preaching on here for years which is put more eggs in your basket (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?187653-Side-Jobs-More-Eggs-More-Baskets) (What ways do you make your money? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?211582-What-ways-do-you-make-your-money&highlight=texting+packages), How Not to Go Broke As A Cammodel/Sex Worker: A Mini Guide (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?216795-How-Not-to-Go-Broke-As-A-Cammodel-Sex-Worker-A-Mini-Guide)). If I would've listened sooner I probably wouldn't be in the position that I'm in now but its never to late to make a change. So my advice to you is expand and put more eggs in your basket.
Although traffic is down across all sites try private based sites like Streamates, Imlive, Cams and Adultwork....also try splitcamming instead of working on just 1 site. Read up on indie camming as well as promoting yourself.... promoting yourself (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?182501-Promoting-Yourself-Advertising-Getting-More-Traffic-101), How To Maximize Your Twitter Experience (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?190396-How-To-Maximize-Your-Twitter-Experience). Create content and sell it on Clips4sale (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?163549-The-Clips4Sale-Thread), Iwantclips (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?211365-The-Official-iWantClips-Thread/page5&highlight=Iwantclips), Manyvid (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?188740-Manyvids-com&highlight=Iwantclips), Niteflirt. Sign up to phone sex sites (Can you actually make great money doing PSO anymore (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212152-Can-you-actually-make-great-money-doing-PSO-anymore-Or-is-it-ALL-camming)) like Niteflirt (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?186291-The-Niteflirt-Thread), Talktome (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?194568-Any-info-on-talktome-com), Phrendly (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212323-Phrendly-com-a-new-GFE-option-to-consider), etc. Play into the craze of social media and sell Onlyfans (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?215138-OnlyFans-Payed-twitter), Snapchat (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212322-Snapchat-set-up-for-public-amp-premium-101), Kik (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?197191-Selling-Kik-and-Snapchat) and Whats app. Make even more money with your phone and do texting.....Selling phone numbers (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173067-Selling-phone-numbers), Ringhop (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?207902-Ringhop), Arousr (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173892-Arousr), Anyone who works for arousr? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?213799-Anyone-who-works-for-arousr), adult texting platforms? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?189683-adult-texting-platforms), Hookup For UK Ladies - TEXTING SITE I USE (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?215366-Hookup-For-UK-Ladies-TEXTING-SITE-I-USE), Chatstar (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?203416-ChatStar-!).
Stop depending on these camsites to make your money be your own big box site, be your own machine. Push to make money in every possible way you can.
Cutie101
06-09-2017, 01:57 AM
Hope you don't mind me asking but What kind of internal wounds did u have? Were u using the sea sponge? I use the sea sponges when I am on my monthly and camming reason I'm asking?
I was using OB, the mini ones... I have a red spot on the cervix so I have done a colposcopy and she first thought is a HPV virus because of STD so I have done a test to see what kind of HPV it is. But, surprise, there is no HPV so, since is no STD, I don't smoke, I never had abortions or giving birth or anything like that, I haven't had use a condom in ages, so she believes that is because of the OB. But is not 100% sure.
Now I am on treatment for 2 months and then I come back to colposcopy and see if the wound is gone.
Of course, 2 days later of making almost no money at all, I am back using the OB... GAH...
maddiebabe
06-09-2017, 04:39 AM
This is un fucking real. I have never in my whole short time camming had so many HORRIBLE i mean beyond horrible days in a row. Holy what the fuck? And I did start last summer, although when I started I was super on and off- but been back on several months now. Don't get it.
On another note found my old phone and wiped it then installed a little social media. I don't have a flying fucking clue how to do snapchat or get dudes to follow me really/where to advertise that shit. But I will be working on it I guess. Instagram I never really used but seems much more straightforward so I'd probably do that first.
LoraDoll
06-09-2017, 04:44 AM
Sigh. I used to make 300+ on a good night 500+ sometimes when it Rocked. Now, not even close. It really takes time for me to be okay with this. However, this week, I couldnt even sleep well, coz I filled up completely with negative thoughts and feelings during my shifts. Kinda weird, coz every day now I just get a conclusion: this is no way to go anymore. Hard to deal with the feeling when I see all my effort I put in in 8 yrs and all my experiences what I gained hard and slowly are worthless for this "new audience" - who want nothing but some romantic chit chat for free. :S
I used to be on 3.99 on Jasmin but this week I lowered it to 1.99. I just was curious and at some point I was like: whatever is better, than sit in free chat forever. What I got: rude 1 min guys. And I have a good placement.
So, let s hope next week ll be better, than this one.
However, I was comfortable how it worked before: If it was bad, but I stayed on, It became better, and rewarding slowly as hours passed by. Now, the longer I stay on, the worse it ll be. So really I need to set up a new strategy but I have no idea if anything works. Like... I stay on for 1 hours - 2 max if there s anyone, than do something else. But in that case my whole day ll be wasted again coz of camming... And really besides the overall slowness, that s the other thing what I really want to avoid, no matter what. :(
I dont want to waste my everything on a job what I actually hate. The fact that I log in with paranoia *these guys ll really put me down again, but can I make anything good at least or not again* is really not how I want to spend every day.
Cutie101
06-09-2017, 08:03 AM
Sigh. I used to make 300+ on a good night 500+ sometimes when it Rocked. Now, not even close. It really takes time for me to be okay with this. However, this week, I couldnt even sleep well, coz I filled up completely with negative thoughts and feelings during my shifts. Kinda weird, coz every day now I just get a conclusion: this is no way to go anymore. Hard to deal with the feeling when I see all my effort I put in in 8 yrs and all my experiences what I gained hard and slowly are worthless for this "new audience" - who want nothing but some romantic chit chat for free. :S
I used to be on 3.99 on Jasmin but this week I lowered it to 1.99. I just was curious and at some point I was like: whatever is better, than sit in free chat forever. What I got: rude 1 min guys. And I have a good placement.
So, let s hope next week ll be better, than this one.
However, I was comfortable how it worked before: If it was bad, but I stayed on, It became better, and rewarding slowly as hours passed by. Now, the longer I stay on, the worse it ll be. So really I need to set up a new strategy but I have no idea if anything works. Like... I stay on for 1 hours - 2 max if there s anyone, than do something else. But in that case my whole day ll be wasted again coz of camming... And really besides the overall slowness, that s the other thing what I really want to avoid, no matter what. :(
I dont want to waste my everything on a job what I actually hate. The fact that I log in with paranoia *these guys ll really put me down again, but can I make anything good at least or not again* is really not how I want to spend every day.
I truly reccomend you the "think and grow rich" book, by Napoleon Hill.
There's no way to accept this as being something normal. Don't let yourself accept that this is the end or this is how should be (to make less than u used to and try to be ok with it). Don't be okay with it! Read that book and bring your money maker mood back!
And raise that fucking price back!!! You don't have an 8 years experience to deserve to be paid such a little!!!
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
06-09-2017, 08:13 AM
Its not you girlie. If you read the last year or so of this thread as well as other threads on here you will see that camming has changed in the last few years and especially with in these last few months (US Election is when it really started to shift). Sites don't seem to have as much traffic as they use to and guys don't seem to be spending like they use to. I'll say again what I've been saying these last few months.... its time to expand. Over are the times when you can only work 1 site or a few sites or log on and make money. Over the years I've bounced back and fourth from camming on only Streamates to splitcamming. During that time I tried doing clips but didn't really like it so I stuck to camming. Now that I can no longer make my daily/weekly/monthly goal or make enough to pay my bills from camming on big box sites I have no choice but to change up what I'm doing. You can't keep doing the same thing and expect a different result. I'm finally listening to what many ladies have been preaching on here for years which is put more eggs in your basket (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?187653-Side-Jobs-More-Eggs-More-Baskets) (What ways do you make your money? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?211582-What-ways-do-you-make-your-money&highlight=texting+packages), How Not to Go Broke As A Cammodel/Sex Worker: A Mini Guide (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?216795-How-Not-to-Go-Broke-As-A-Cammodel-Sex-Worker-A-Mini-Guide)). If I would've listened sooner I probably wouldn't be in the position that I'm in now but its never to late to make a change. So my advice to you is expand and put more eggs in your basket.
Although traffic is down across all sites try private based sites like Streamates, Imlive, Cams and Adultwork....also try splitcamming instead of working on just 1 site. Read up on indie camming as well as promoting yourself.... promoting yourself (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?182501-Promoting-Yourself-Advertising-Getting-More-Traffic-101), How To Maximize Your Twitter Experience (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?190396-How-To-Maximize-Your-Twitter-Experience). Create content and sell it on Clips4sale (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?163549-The-Clips4Sale-Thread), Iwantclips (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?211365-The-Official-iWantClips-Thread/page5&highlight=Iwantclips), Manyvid (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?188740-Manyvids-com&highlight=Iwantclips), Niteflirt. Sign up to phone sex sites (Can you actually make great money doing PSO anymore (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212152-Can-you-actually-make-great-money-doing-PSO-anymore-Or-is-it-ALL-camming)) like Niteflirt (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?186291-The-Niteflirt-Thread), Talktome (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?194568-Any-info-on-talktome-com), Phrendly (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212323-Phrendly-com-a-new-GFE-option-to-consider), etc. Play into the craze of social media and sell Onlyfans (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?215138-OnlyFans-Payed-twitter), Snapchat (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?212322-Snapchat-set-up-for-public-amp-premium-101), Kik (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?197191-Selling-Kik-and-Snapchat) and Whats app. Make even more money with your phone and do texting.....Selling phone numbers (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173067-Selling-phone-numbers), Ringhop (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?207902-Ringhop), Arousr (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?173892-Arousr), Anyone who works for arousr? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?213799-Anyone-who-works-for-arousr), adult texting platforms? (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?189683-adult-texting-platforms), Hookup For UK Ladies - TEXTING SITE I USE (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?215366-Hookup-For-UK-Ladies-TEXTING-SITE-I-USE), Chatstar (https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?203416-ChatStar-!).
Stop depending on these camsites to make your money be your own big box site, be your own machine. Push to make money in every possible way you can.
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I wish we had a Hallelujah button :)
hyori
06-09-2017, 10:50 AM
Ugh. It's all too much work now. I need to go off grid and never work again.
However, I was comfortable how it worked before: If it was bad, but I stayed on, It became better, and rewarding slowly as hours passed by. Now, the longer I stay on, the worse it ll be. So really I need to set up a new strategy but I have no idea if anything works. Like... I stay on for 1 hours - 2 max if there s anyone, than do something else. But in that case my whole day ll be wasted again coz of camming... And really besides the overall slowness, that s the other thing what I really want to avoid, no matter what. :(
I dont want to waste my everything on a job what I actually hate. The fact that I log in with paranoia *these guys ll really put me down again, but can I make anything good at least or not again* is really not how I want to spend every day.
This is so how I feel.
seashell
06-09-2017, 04:21 PM
I sold a custom video for a guy on Phrendly, and I totally need to work on my video skills. I sent it to him, but mehhh I'm kinda embarrassed about how it turned out...
naomi_doll
06-09-2017, 04:40 PM
I sold a custom video for a guy on Phrendly, and I totally need to work on my video skills. I sent it to him, but mehhh I'm kinda embarrassed about how it turned out...
It just takes practice and sometimes its just confidence. I've recorded videos where when I got done I thought "meh, I don't know if I like it" but the customer loved it. So sometimes you have to just trust yourself. You'll get there either way! :)
TrifilinCamHo
06-09-2017, 05:03 PM
It just takes practice and sometimes its just confidence. I've recorded videos where when I got done I thought "meh, I don't know if I like it" but the customer loved it. So sometimes you have to just trust yourself. You'll get there either way! :)
Exactly what I was gonna say! I think when the product you're selling is yourself it's natural to be your toughest critic and want everything to be perfect but 99% of the time the guy will fuckin love it even if you don't.
AlisonSparks
06-10-2017, 06:49 AM
I'm super pissed about silent creeps in my chatroom that just watch me without tipping and don't talk at all. It just makes me feel so anxious, I want to cry.
olianajaay
06-10-2017, 01:43 PM
ramble alert!! lmao
i dont think i have a stripper body but ive been studying this site to go try auditioning anyways. i think the increase of guys on camsites now who freeload and troll just do it bc theyre bored, CHEAP, the internet is so easily accessible these days (everythings popular and its so easy to become picky and click off to something else. SO EASY), and they love the idea of good looking girls who will fuck themselves online for their enjoyment but dont comprehend with their 1 brain cell havin asses that this is actually a JOB for most of us. theres nothing too taboo about this anymore really.
they dont understand that we're actual humans in front of a camera for hours sometimes and willing to show our most sacred parts and naughty side to entertain their bum asses. we deserve money for the balls that takes!!! this is something you can get fired at a vanilla job in real life for!! so yes its gonna put me in a sour mood if no one is paying. some of us want to have fun but cant be fun if youre not willing to pay or give us the time/chance to make you feel good! they dont want to think that we are worth it and they should get it for free. like, you dont get pussy in real life and here we are actually willing to show you so why not pay up for that? and it sucks bc of token/tube sites where you really can see it all for free!! some can be so damn delusional that even free isnt good enough!
the fact that i get more traffic if my head is down playing on my phone, leave for a second or if im just ignoring them completely speaks volumes to me right now. they just want to be fucking creeps and lurkers. if im attentive and try to make conversation, they IMMEDIATELY dip. who is that scared to say hi? we cant even see who you are bruh.
lately i try not to believe some of these girls who say that they're making thousands bc they really could be lying, lucky, or just hypnotizingly gorgeous (is that a word? it is now lmao). i dont want to feel bad about myself and compare. thats ugly. idk this may just be relatable to the adult industry in general. but i do wish there was a way we could all boycott this shit and restart online adult work and make better rules to turn it back into what it should be. something!! theyll see how much they took us for granted. lol
how cool would it be if it were set up to if you dont at least tip for every couple of models you've willingly clicked on and watched, you deserve to have your account removed. but thats only in a perfect world siiigh lol
anyways i have a feeling dancing would be better during this season since schools out and the weather is energizing so not many want to be in the house. plus ill be in their faces so they cant just get rid of me so damn easily. i know im sexy and i know im fun and boy do i know how to get what i want out of men. i guess it doesnt translate as well as it needs to over camera. im trying not to lose hope and you guys shouldnt either but yeah its definitely time branch out ladies!!!! no matter how much i upgrade how much weight i lose change my niche/look or effort i put in, i cant even rely on this shit right now to make enough for a bag of chips. for the times i do it doesnt feel that rewarding bc of the time i had to put in. winter was the best time for me bc everyone was stuck in the house and horny. ill probably start camming full time again then
whirlerz
06-10-2017, 07:39 PM
Well I use Karma brand wifi hotspot, & they ripped me off.. they advertised 40% off, I purchased the data & was charged full fucking price.
I emailed them (only way to contact) & they keep sending me link to purchase more data?? Riiight.
We're talking 20.00 that the can't refund me?
I'm just going to use up what I have & get something else, but it really pisses me off.
Pigs.
No wonder they re rated -F on BBB.org>:(
HollyJaydeXXX
06-12-2017, 07:13 AM
Dude, I have been bitching about SM and camming in general for like the past six months and I am starting to feel like I am insane to keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.
I have consistently been on SM for 7 years, on the first page and in the Pornstar category. I have a solid 5 star rating and nothing but positive comments and tags. When I started I averaged $33/hr. and after about 6 mos. my average was $65/hr. for the past six months my average has been NINE FUCKING DOLLARS AN HOUR! My paid chat ratio is at 3%. I have a top of the line computer, internet, cam, toys, lingerie, etc.
My best day in the past 6 months was $161 and that was from 12 hours of work. This week alone I had 4 $0 days. It took me 6 hours yesterday to make $30 and four hours today to make $10.
One of the main problems is the site's technical issues. My biggest complaint is with the SM Broadcaster. My Frame Rate jumps around constantly and fucks with my placement, shows and the crowd in my room. During the brief five minutes I have been writing this post the SM Broadcaster has lost connection three goddamn times. The cam to cam feature does not work half the time, I have already lost a block exclusive because of that BS.
I have been hustling my ass off on SM for the past few months to pay some big bills that are coming due in a week and I have very little to show for it, no where near the few thousand I needed to pay these bills.
I am going to take my last $200 and post on Eros. Streamate is over. Camming is over. Unless you're an Indy girl with a client base there is no longer stability with camming. *For me at least. I'm super happy for the girls who are banking!
AuroraJade
06-12-2017, 08:27 AM
I was thinking the same thing... Last week I had 5 privates. Today I cammed for 2 hours and had none. I earned .35$.
Lol I can't understand how anyone can make 1000+/week on SM. I look at myself and I really can't find anything that I am doing different then those girls. I don't know what it is. And it sucks because I am starting to get in some big debt.
It always feels like there is a secret I am missing out on. Like I didn't get the memo. It hurts when you are working hard, giving all the (limited) energy you have for the last year and girls who have been camming three months earn more.
DahliaSimone
06-12-2017, 10:32 AM
I have lost a ton of money this past week with CMD down....only one guy decided he would pay on another site, all the other ones didnt want to have to join another site or to pay elsewhere.....that payment processor issue really screwed me over, and probably a lot of other girls. 2 possible shows in the last hour alone lost because guys dont want to pay anywhere else.....by the time they even get back up I may still be screwed if guys dont decide to come back :( Streamate accounts for such a small portion of my earnings, with CMD making up the bulk of it and other sites (MFCM, LCMS and SP) making up even smaller percentages. Basically, I'm just going to be broke and lost until its back....so, for me personally, camming sucks right now. :(
anonymous camgirl
06-12-2017, 01:00 PM
you sound like me!.. also in the porn star category .. experiencing the same money results as you.. I had a pretty good weekend though.. finally... been on there since 2009
Dude, I have been bitching about SM and camming in general for like the past six months and I am starting to feel like I am insane to keep doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different result.
I have consistently been on SM for 7 years, on the first page and in the Pornstar category. I have a solid 5 star rating and nothing but positive comments and tags. When I started I averaged $33/hr. and after about 6 mos. my average was $65/hr. for the past six months my average has been NINE FUCKING DOLLARS AN HOUR! My paid chat ratio is at 3%. I have a top of the line computer, internet, cam, toys, lingerie, etc.
My best day in the past 6 months was $161 and that was from 12 hours of work. This week alone I had 4 $0 days. It took me 6 hours yesterday to make $30 and four hours today to make $10.
One of the main problems is the site's technical issues. My biggest complaint is with the SM Broadcaster. My Frame Rate jumps around constantly and fucks with my placement, shows and the crowd in my room. During the brief five minutes I have been writing this post the SM Broadcaster has lost connection three goddamn times. The cam to cam feature does not work half the time, I have already lost a block exclusive because of that BS.
I have been hustling my ass off on SM for the past few months to pay some big bills that are coming due in a week and I have very little to show for it, no where near the few thousand I needed to pay these bills.
I am going to take my last $200 and post on Eros. Streamate is over. Camming is over. Unless you're an Indy girl with a client base there is no longer stability with camming. *For me at least. I'm super happy for the girls who are banking!
seashell
06-12-2017, 04:56 PM
I have a wannabe customer on MGF who keeps asking if I have a strapon to fuck him with. Yesterday I told him "not yet," and he sent a message that read, "WELL HELLO, HOW ELSE ARE U GONNA REAM MY ASS?"
Ugh... just why.....
I replied "lulz" and signed off.
maddiebabe
06-12-2017, 07:27 PM
It is way beyond dead for me today lol! Like not trafficwise. Just with the money.
It's like ignore them. no money. Try and talk to them no money. Idk man wtf.
Show face no money. Hide face no money.
What one lady above said- I seem to always get more traffic if I point camera at ceiling when I leave the room or if camera is on me and I am ignoring everyone and nowhere near the computer. They really are fucking freeloading CREEPS and lurkers.
starburst
06-12-2017, 07:41 PM
Tonight was just crickets. I'm happy I had one tipper because if he didn't come around, wouldn't have made a penny. Wound up logging off after 2.5 hours because of it. I love camming and I love it's potential, but I hate the inconsistency that comes with it.
seashell
06-12-2017, 07:51 PM
I have lost a ton of money this past week with CMD down....only one guy decided he would pay on another site, all the other ones didnt want to have to join another site or to pay elsewhere.....that payment processor issue really screwed me over, and probably a lot of other girls. 2 possible shows in the last hour alone lost because guys dont want to pay anywhere else.....by the time they even get back up I may still be screwed if guys dont decide to come back :( Streamate accounts for such a small portion of my earnings, with CMD making up the bulk of it and other sites (MFCM, LCMS and SP) making up even smaller percentages. Basically, I'm just going to be broke and lost until its back....so, for me personally, camming sucks right now. :(
I'm in the same boat with CMD down. I've been marketing the hell out of myself and I keep getting guys who are interested, but they see Indie Bill and don't want to sign up. Ugh. Some do, some don't. I'm just glad SOME guys are using it, or I'd be completely fucked. It's really bad timing, I'm trying to leave my other job and cam fulltime... REALLY hope CMD gets everything up and running in the next few days. <3