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sovereignv
10-23-2017, 06:52 AM
You're so lucky lol. I'm at like $3 currently and banned over 20 guys spamming me with their phone numbers and dick pics, asking that I piss, shit, go outside naked or pretend like I'm their sister so we'd fuck our mom together (I SHIT YOU NOT THAT WAS WHAT HE SAID!). FFS where are they spawning at?!!

Dude what's up with the combination of slowness and absolute rudeness? I don't usually get rude people in my room at all but over the past week guys have been out of control with their nasty insulting shit, and those are like the only guys who bother talking to me.

JaneBurgess
10-23-2017, 12:32 PM
While I always ask that question myself, it is a little bit more complicated.
Sometimes, when camming, you hit a rough patch and don't have the money needed to transition to vanilla work. Other times, also during a rough patch, bills get so far behind that the only way you can pay them is if you keep camming. It's like trying to catch your breath...
Myself for example, I have been trying to get out for months but camming has been so slow that I am behind on bills and don't have the money saved to transition. A lot of us live paycheck to paycheck with camming, it is even worse if you're on DailyPay. I already know it will take me 2-4 weeks to work enough hours on cam to pay my bills AND save enough to go back to work and have a two week waiting period for checks (on DP).
It's really easy to get yourself in this cycle and months turn into years.
Now, for someone who has been camming 10+ years, can you imagine how difficult it would be to go back to vanilla work? Between work experience, age, etc. can you imagine what that would be like? Maybe skills/qualifications only qualify her for certain jobs and those certain jobs don't pay enough?
It's super easy to say 'why don't you quit' and very difficult to actually do it, especially given the circumstances.

I was referring to the lady that said she has hated this job for 15 years and it has caused multiple mental issues. If you really hate this job and it literally causes you mental issues quitting a long time ago would have made sense. Ive been camming almost thirteen years and I know at least half the performers that started out with me have quit and went on to successful careers in other fields. Recently a lot of performers have quit and went back to vanilla jobs and they said they are the happiest they have been on years. We all know when we started this job its not a forever job and that eventually you would move on. I know it can be hard to quit for some people but others saved up and planned out an exit. I plan to be done with cam in the next two to three years at the latest. Whys it worse on Daily Pay? I havent used that before but I thought they paid you daily from the sites you signed up for

HollyJaydeXXX
10-23-2017, 12:49 PM
I was referring to the lady that said she has hated this job for 15 years and it has caused multiple mental issues. If you really hate this job and it literally causes you mental issues quitting a long time ago would have made sense. Ive been camming almost thirteen years and I know at least half the performers that started out with me have quit and went on to successful careers in other fields. Recently a lot of performers have quit and went back to vanilla jobs and they said they are the happiest they have been on years. We all know when we started this job its not a forever job and that eventually you would move on. I know it can be hard to quit for some people but others saved up and planned out an exit. I plan to be done with cam in the next two to three years at the latest. Whys it worse on Daily Pay? I havent used that before but I thought they paid you daily from the sites you signed up for

I know you were talking to her, just commenting because a good group on us are in the same boat. It's easy to feel 'stuck' when you're camming and struggle finding other work that pays the same. A lot of us sacrifice or mental health for financial stability... but that's true for vanilla jobs as well.
DailyPay changes the mentality a little bit. You get used to getting on today and getting paid tomorrow so when things are slow, all the sudden you have no money. It's not like weekly pay where you know you had a bad week so your check in two weeks is going to suck and you do what you can to bridge the gap. It's like sudden poverty.
I love dailypay and have found it super convenient, BUT when camming comes to a crawl (like it's been all this month) you're suddenly broke AF and don't know what to do. It's kind of hard to explain....

seashell
10-23-2017, 01:16 PM
^It really is true for vanilla jobs, as well. I think the big issue is feeling trapped and unable to make enough money. That can give anyone a significant amount of stress.

anonymous camgirl
10-23-2017, 02:25 PM
Everytime someone mentions why didn't you ever get a job? Why did you stay and be miserable.. my mouth drops open and I think to myself.. OMG .. there are no words , I cannot even tell you the short version of why.. So I have put it all on paper year by year.. I did probably leave out some things that paralyzed me and traumatized me but I think you get the idea... So I am going to save this! for the next time someone asks me this.. It's good to get it on paper now.. I don't know why I have to explain to anyone, but after reading about the last 15 yrs I am sure you will be able to see why.

This is largely unedited , I don't have time to edit at the moment.

2003 -
Prior to camming laid off from my job for the 3rd time in a row.. it's ok because I was only making
$9.50 an hour in the Flood Insurance industry so I welcomed the unemployment and camming..
FINALLY, I thought a chance not to be poverty stricken and decide between a small toy for my son or
dishwashing soap ( true story) I figured.. HEY.. let me work really hard at this and then eventually I
will get into another relationship some day and that will help ease the burden of the bills and I can
concentrate on a job I would LOVE and ENJOY!.. that never happened... Remained single for 17 yrs
and I think it's because of camming that I never moved on with my life... NO RELATIONSHIPS... I
had a few men who drug me down and cost me money? But none who helped me out financially.
A cam customer befriended me, I was naive about men, he spoiled me, bought me gifts, cash and lots
of shows, we decided to meet he was my MARRIED boyfriend for 3 months.. always talked about
leaving his wife... but she knew and it was acceptable he said, because that's the british way of life... I
was disheartened and didn't know better.. He broke up with me and took half my income with me..
So by the end of the year after trying everything under the sun on cam , scared I would not make
enough money.. was making $10 an hour BTW working 100 hours a week on cam.. NOPE I never
slept.. After this guy breaks my heart , I hated camming and I resented them.. I started to notice they
were just using me and playing with my mind.. So at the end of the year .. I am practically in diapers
from doing ANAL.. and I went out and bought a new car.. so now I have to stay!.. I could never afford
the car with a $9.50 an hour job raising 2 kids and only receiving $556 a month in child support.

Here we are now at 2004:
I have already started changing and feeling bad but I have to stick with it.. because now I have this car
payment..
A few months later an old friend comes calling , she needs to escape her abusive boyfriend with her 4
children.. She was living with another g/f but had a fight.. Ended up staying with me for 10 days and I
found it impossible to cam in a VERY Small 2 bedroom home with 7 other people!.. So I had to decide
to NOT cam til I could get rid of her!.. well? With her terrible broke financial situation and her credit
score at 300+ she couldnt even rent an apartment!.. So I took her around looking for places to live.. She
found a place and I PAID her security deposit and bought her the essentials to get things going for her..
So GOTTA GET BACK ON CAM!

2005
In the meantime she tells me I should rent this other apartment because it's new and much bigger and it
will make me happier!.. So I said ya know? You are right.. decide to move in there and totally froze in
fear of the rent which was 2 times what I was used to paying!.. I was going out of my mind.. feverishly
camming for low rates at 1.99 per min.. not even knowing I should charge more! So I began to rack up
credit card debt.. I had such great anxiety and crying everyday because I was so overwhelmed.. I had
NOTHING at the end of every month.. so I decided to try porn and get my own website.. It was
difficult to try to go on shoots when there was no one to watch my kids!.. I live in a state where there is
NO family NOR friends and didn't have any neighbors I knew.. ( NEW APARTMENT) I made ends
meet by dating rich men and crying to all my cam customers to help me pay the rent or electric or
something EVERY month!
P.S. I decide a boob job is in order!.. I will make more money on CAM and then I can finally have the
freedom to find something else to do, NOPE not really.. I just quit working 100 hours a week.

2006
My son is diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes, Had to forget about ever doing porn again and stay home ,
the seizures are happening sporadically all the time.. Never knowing when.. Couldn't leave him.
The rent is going up $100 a month every time I renew my lease.. I hadn't a pot to piss in to even move
out!.. You need a security deposit.. I had NO MONEY
So I get this idea I should buy a house with no money down, And barely any mortgage company but
one said YES! .. the problem is I had to come up with $956 for good faith deposit and something else
Someone from MYSPACE I never met or kenw gave me $500 of it.. I was SAFE.. I found a home to
buy without ending up HOMELESS

2007

Here we are in my new home.. The one I got with 2 mortgages , 50 yrs! And 11% interest?
Gotta keep on camming!
A few months go by, I am happy that at 34 I finally achieved homeownership, This is something I had
wanted since I was 16 yrs old!... Someone comes knocking on my door..
It's a water filtration sales man.. OMG I want one of those!.. That will be good for my son's Type 1
diabetes!
So I sign on the dotted line.. a few months go by I get really sick and don't know why? I am bedridden,
I am falling asleep every 2 hours and getting really sick! What is wrong with me? I have no health
insurance!. I gotta figure this out on my own.. I stay sick and cam when I am awake.

2008 -

God, Owning a home and being broke is tough!.. I am at the laundromat for a year for 3 people..
Refrigerator broke and went without new fridge for 2 months.. man this is rough.. but it's ok nothing
lasts forever..
Cashed out all my stocks and tried to start a vending machine business.. wow so stressed!.. every
month I am making 50 cents for all my machines in total!.. nothing but problems, ants , and broken and
stolen machines.. UGGH .. done with this
Still in Adrenal Fatigue and practically bedridden


2009-

Met a guy!.. WHEW.. I am saved.. I can finally be free at some point and do something else for money,
I had a crush on this guy since 12.. This is awesome!
Finally in love.. finally happy!.. WOW!
2 months later, it was all fake, He turned out to be a NARCISSIST/Sociopath... just my luck!
I spent 3 yrs wondering what happened? What did I do?
He kept moving in and out of my house that he never financially contributed to, I am left broken,
mentally depressed and god knows what else.

2010

I have the breakdown of my life!.. I have had my car stolen by this wonderful man's nephew who turns
out to be a pill popper
This guy confuses me also because he keeps coming in and out of my life he abuses me in this way ..
telling me he loves me and then leaves again, drove me crazy! I decided to commit suicide.. My
younger son went to go live with his father by this time.. I am so sick from the water filtration system
that I have no life left in me now. I am weak and tired, They took me to a psychiatric ward for 6 days..
I am broke of course, How will the bills get paid and my 18 yr old son is at home still..
I come home to nothing and so I have GET BACK ON CAM!

2011

Here this NARC comes again.. he promises things will be different.. he does the same thing.. we get
into a huge fight, He breaks my shoulder, I have NO MONEY , NO INSURANCE AND then also
have to apply for food stamps.. I cannot cam for over 2 months now.. My parents sent me $500
to help out a little.

2012

Here comes the TROLLS!.. He comes 4chan, to drive me out of my mind.. I had gained 50 pounds in 4
months from the broken shoulder,
My shoulder is broken, my heart is broken and NOW I am FAT.. I am very depresssed.. And the trolls
never let me forget how I deserve NOTHING in life from men..
Thanks Trolls.. I endure.. I gotta get back on cam
I am I am waking up at 4 am, 5 am,, .. to get on cam before they wake up from their naps,
They are calling the police on me, they are ordering pizzas, etc etc.. My mind is so filled with anxiety
all I can do is pray for one day it to end.. it doesnt end for another few years.. They enlist all their
buddies everyday.. new people to jump on the bandwagon.. etc etc

2013

I need a way out!... I am joining Beachbody... I am going to start another new venture for myself
and I need to lose weight!...hmmm Every program I do I get more injured and never lose a pound?
I get 2 knee injuries with nerve damage, right hip is injured, other shoulder is injured, pull a muscle in
my stomach!
God damn it why am I not losing weight!.. Oh I know!.. I have a slow thyroid which leads to injuries
and fractures... hmmm..
I never make $1 with my new beachbody business.. only spending more money so time to get BACK
ON CAM!
Oh yea! Trolls still bothering me to the nth degree. Oh and now I am helping my sister and her friend
because they fell on some really rough times , so I am helping with paying small utilities and food

2014

Still trying to find out why I cannot lose weight .. hmmm such a mystery!... still helping sister and
family and CAMMING to make ends meet for me
Fall of 2014! oh NO I cannot breathe anymore now.. what is wrong with me.. OMG... I cannot walk, I
cannot talk

I cannot do anything! Totally out of breath .. holy moly.. what to do?
Had to give up my beachbody business as it was costing me money and only serving as a tax write off!
Welp!
Time to get back on cam!

2015

Still cannot breathe, damn what is wrong with me, Cardiologist doesnt know? My doctors don't know..
I am just suffering.. TIME TO GET ON CAM!
I spent the whole year not being able to breathe, no more exercising for me to try to lose weight.. nope
OMG.. now we are in July.. My sister and her family is homeless... they have no place to go but the
street!.. Been there done that.. I guess they will sleep on my couches and double up,
Although they helped me with food and bills, OMG I cannot cam hardly... such a terrible distraction..
this is costing me money!
Gotta get rid of them.. so I did.
Gotta get back on cam to make up the difference again.. sheesh
Omg now my son wants to move back in, OMG my car insurance went from 200 to 700 a month..
OMG I cannot afford this nor my leased car I had to buy because my engine blew up earlier this year..
HOLY MOLY!.. I gotta get back on CAM
OMG , my A/C broke, OMG my water heater broke, OMG my son needs 8 fillings and wisdom teeth
removed.. OMG, I am losing my mind I have $21000 extra expenses this year PLUS my regular
expenses.. omg gotta get back on cam!

2016

Still ON CAM trying to pay for 2015.... OMG cannot get a real job!.. still cant breathe.. I must do
something!.. Hire a mineral practitioner spend tons of money for testing and pills.. omg. I am starting to
breathe a bit better, OK this is good!.. ok I am having a rough time.. These minerals are removing
heavy metals from my body.. ripping them out, it's making me mental.. depressed, anxiety.. nervous
breakdowns.. WHEW.. ok gotta slow down.. take some time to myself.. gotta cut back on camming a
bit.. ok my kids are far to sick.. they need this miracle man also.. they are lethargic.. OMG I have to
keep camming!.. I cannot afford to get well.. oh no

2017

Damn!.. I still need to lose weight.. what to do? I know! IF/LOW CARB... oh no.. I am tired.. oh my
god what is this doing to me.. I can't get out of bed.. I am lethargic, my brain is foggy, I am NOT losing
weight.. what is going on.. I cant think... I dont care about cam.. I am losing money.. I need credit cards
and dip into my savings that I saved for 5 yrs now.. OMG .. I have to pull myself up and get on CAM
Get testing done .. OMG>. That diet , slowed my thyroid, gave me adrenal fatigue and THEN! Messed
up my blood sugar more.. OMG! We are having a hurricane.. they say it's really bad.. omg .. we have to evacuate.. oh no! good thing I have cash for this.. oh my goodness.. costing more than I thought and I missed 9 days of work ..oh boy I am stressed!.. FEMA, Food for FLorida, homeownere's insurance. .. doctors appts, dental appts.. oh my .. all of this in 2 months time.. omg!.. I GOTTA GET BACK ON CAM!


WHY AM I STILL CAMMING!?#@%Q#$^$%&E%^&*%^*^&%*

THE END!

The last 15 yrs I don't even have time to think!.. I am like a robot.. with all of this crap going on EVERY SINGLE YEAR!.. who has time for a new career?

anonymous camgirl
10-23-2017, 02:37 PM
You inspired me to write down year by year of what happened!.. So enjoy the read.. now I have something I can pull up when anyone wonders why.


I was referring to the lady that said she has hated this job for 15 years and it has caused multiple mental issues. If you really hate this job and it literally causes you mental issues quitting a long time ago would have made sense. Ive been camming almost thirteen years and I know at least half the performers that started out with me have quit and went on to successful careers in other fields. Recently a lot of performers have quit and went back to vanilla jobs and they said they are the happiest they have been on years. We all know when we started this job its not a forever job and that eventually you would move on. I know it can be hard to quit for some people but others saved up and planned out an exit. I plan to be done with cam in the next two to three years at the latest. Whys it worse on Daily Pay? I havent used that before but I thought they paid you daily from the sites you signed up for

HollyJaydeXXX
10-23-2017, 03:00 PM
Thank you so much for sharing, Hun ^^^ I know that must have been difficult to write everything out. I sympathize with you! I've found myself in similar situations and the only way I could keep my head above water was to keep camming!
Your story is a reminder for myself and other cammodels that life throws shit at us sometimes and if we are unhapy camming we need to do what we can to get out at the first chance we get!
I'm just hoping it picks up this month so I can pay all my bills and bounce out! Don't know if it is going to happen! Only made $11 in 5 hours today. Don't know how I will get back up to $180 a day so I can pay my bills this month. It is crazy how it goes from awesome to shit practically overnight!
Keep your head up honey!

PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-23-2017, 03:25 PM
You inspired me to write down year by year of what happened!.. So enjoy the read.. now I have something I can pull up when anyone wonders why.

I have a genuine like and respect for you. Thats real and I wouldn't bother writing that if it wasnt true. This is coming from a good place. I think it would be in YOUR best interest to read and evaluate that list when ever YOU question yourself and wonder why you're still camming. It should be about how you feel about your choices and what needs to be done to make yourself whole. I'm not suggesting that you dwell on the past but maybe looking at how much power you placed in other people giving them contol over your contentment may help you move forward?

PS I can completely relate when it comes to family members who never seem to figure it the fuck out. Im the one everyone use to hit up when things fell a part. This time last year I was living between two different states trying to take care of people. And then one day I saw the impact it was having on me and I had to cut them loose. I had too much at stake and Ive never been happier. You cant fix people. The only thing you can do is build your shit up and set an example. Trust me they know what to do but as long as someone else is willing to take the heat, then why would they ever hustle for themselves?

anonymous camgirl
10-23-2017, 03:27 PM
The hardest part was trying to remember the last 15 yrs...lol....
Yes I am trying a new niche.. sweet and nice.. the girl I was when I first started... I was some innocent sweet girl who had no clue about men.. even though I was actually 30.. I was relatively sheltered from most men and only dealt with 2!.. and had NO earthly idea they act like animals and aren't very nice.. that's the worst part of camming..that and the isolation and the strange hours and days you must work in order to get ahead.. Like working ALL weekends, ALL holidays.. etc etc.. for 15 yrs?... it's just hard.. at one time I figured I would take a break and do a temp job.. but I did the calculations and I would have to STILL do 40 hours on cam or something to make up for the low paying 40 hour job I would do...lol.. so I decided to give up on that.


Thank you so much for sharing, Hun ^^^ I know that must have been difficult to write everything out. I sympathize with you! I've found myself in similar situations and the only way I could keep my head above water was to keep camming!
Your story is a reminder for myself and other cammodels that life throws shit at us sometimes and if we are unhapy camming we need to do what we can to get out at the first chance we get!
I'm just hoping it picks up this month so I can pay all my bills and bounce out! Don't know if it is going to happen! Only made $11 in 5 hours today. Don't know how I will get back up to $180 a day so I can pay my bills this month. It is crazy how it goes from awesome to shit practically overnight!
Keep your head up honey!

icamthereforeiam
10-23-2017, 03:29 PM
Cause I told a guy wanting to masturbate in front of his female ups driver was sexual harassment. He then called me fat. I hate camming.

anonymous camgirl
10-23-2017, 03:30 PM
Yes!.. I figured out how I gave up my power my whole life at 38 when that guy broke my shoulder.. and that's where that ended , but I still have trouble since helping others who really desperately need something .. like my sister...but I have really boundarified myself.. (new word I just made up).. so much so , I have even more isolation which makes me unhappy.. but it was like the only thing I could do for self preservation... and the whole bed ridden can't breathe issue doesn't make you want to socialize much.


I have a genuine like and respect for you. Thats real and I wouldn't bother writing that if it wasnt true. This is coming from a good place. I think it would be in YOUR best interest to read and evaluate that list when ever YOU question yourself and wonder why you're still camming. It should be about how you feel about your choices and what needs to be done to make yourself whole. I'm not suggesting that you dwell on the past but maybe looking at how much power you placed in other people giving them contol over your contentment may help you move forward?

JaneBurgess
10-23-2017, 04:18 PM
You inspired me to write down year by year of what happened!.. So enjoy the read.. now I have something I can pull up when anyone wonders why.


Its good you wrote it all down because it helps to journal. I have an underactive thyroid (Hasimotos), adrenal fatigue and so far have lost twenty pounds. I dont know if you have tried the AIP diet but it works well for a lot of people with auto immune and thyroid issues. It helps to be on thyroid meds as well

I understand your point but that list also screams you should have quit a long time ago. If you hate this job and blame men for your problems its always going to be hard to make money camming. Men are our major buyers and thats not going to change. Thats biting the hand that literally feeds you and customers can sense how you feel. Not trying to be harsh but you know as well I as I do this job is in constant change and not for everyone. Its not the same as it was ten years ago or even five years ago

JaneBurgess
10-23-2017, 04:21 PM
I know you were talking to her, just commenting because a good group on us are in the same boat. It's easy to feel 'stuck' when you're camming and struggle finding other work that pays the same. A lot of us sacrifice or mental health for financial stability... but that's true for vanilla jobs as well.
DailyPay changes the mentality a little bit. You get used to getting on today and getting paid tomorrow so when things are slow, all the sudden you have no money. It's not like weekly pay where you know you had a bad week so your check in two weeks is going to suck and you do what you can to bridge the gap. It's like sudden poverty.
I love dailypay and have found it super convenient, BUT when camming comes to a crawl (like it's been all this month) you're suddenly broke AF and don't know what to do. It's kind of hard to explain....

Do you have different avenues for revenue? Clip stores, phone sites, texting sites, your own website, etc. A lot of performers dont just rely on camming income anymore since its not usually stable

HollyJaydeXXX
10-23-2017, 08:28 PM
Nope. I had all that shit up till 2 years ago. Had 20k followers on twitter, had a website via ModelCentro, partnered up with other models to shoot content, promoted the shit out of niteflirt, verified call, clips4sale, manyvids, mygirlfund, streamate, Amazon wishlist, skype, etc. offered GFE in LA, New York and Las Vegas (all places I lived during the promos) and had auto tweets/promotions set up on Twitter, IG, etc. Offered custom videos, custom photos, SnapChat subscriptions, texting subscriptions... you name it, I offered it and promoted the hell out of it for YEARS.
From all that work over 5 years (while doing porn), I received the following:
One Clips4Sale Video Sold
One ModelCentro Subscription
Two Calls on NiteFlirt
One Skype Show
One Fan Date in LA (non sexual)
One Fan Date in NY
Three Amazon Wishlist purchases

So when I stopped doing porn, I shut all that shit down. It was a huge fucking waste of time. Camming, for me, was always SOMEWHAT reliable and I knew if I put in the hours I’d make at least $25/hr.
Times have changed, camming isn’t stable and I’m not going to start promoting and doing all that shit again when I’m trying to phase out. It was a huge waste of time the first time and I learned my lesson.

winnipeg
10-24-2017, 01:37 AM
Nope. I had all that shit up till 2 years ago. Had 20k followers on twitter, had a website via ModelCentro, partnered up with other models to shoot content, promoted the shit out of niteflirt, verified call, clips4sale, manyvids, mygirlfund, streamate, Amazon wishlist, skype, etc. offered GFE in LA, New York and Las Vegas (all places I lived during the promos) and had auto tweets/promotions set up on Twitter, IG, etc. Offered custom videos, custom photos, SnapChat subscriptions, texting subscriptions... you name it, I offered it and promoted the hell out of it for YEARS.
From all that work over 5 years (while doing porn), I received the following:
One Clips4Sale Video Sold
One ModelCentro Subscription
Two Calls on NiteFlirt
One Skype Show
One Fan Date in LA (non sexual)
One Fan Date in NY
Three Amazon Wishlist purchases

So when I stopped doing porn, I shut all that shit down. It was a huge fucking waste of time. Camming, for me, was always SOMEWHAT reliable and I knew if I put in the hours I’d make at least $25/hr.
Times have changed, camming isn’t stable and I’m not going to start promoting and doing all that shit again when I’m trying to phase out. It was a huge waste of time the first time and I learned my lesson.

I agree, alot of the times social media conversions are poor. Yes they reach alot of people, yes you get people interested in your brand but what % of those convert to sales?

Glamourmilf
10-24-2017, 06:23 AM
You inspired me to write down year by year of what happened!.. So enjoy the read.. now I have something I can pull up when anyone wonders why.

Thank You for sharing that.
It's so easy for others to make judgements on our lives. UNTIL they are forced to walk a similar path.
You have such a giving nature, that it becomes a detriment to your own life, at times.
It always reminds me of that saying, " No good deed goes unpunished."
Besides, people don't realize that you have 2 children who are relying on you!
Mad props to you.
Mad respect.
49067

anonymous camgirl
10-24-2017, 06:57 AM
Thanks Glam,

The way I see it , and I left loads of other crap out, because it would have turned into a book. When did I ever have time? I didn't, something was happening every single month, I thought it was unbelievable when I was living in it, that something bad was always happening.. It still does!.. but I live in solitude and don't even try to get to know anyone. What for? Most likely they will end up needing, wanting or using me for something and the question is? will I know? will I say NO? Am I brave enough to let another person suffer? I remember many times my sister and her friend calling me and sleeping at truck stops for 3 month straight and it hurt me a lot.. and I had to sit there and say NO and let them suffer.. that was in 2013. One time I bought them a hotel room for 2 days because it was my sister's birthday but that's it.. Even during the hurricane a few months ago. I gave them $30 for gas because they had NONE and couldn't even drive down the street to evacuate if need be.. I couldn't have them dead on my conscious all because they needed gas.. it's not easy.. I think a lot of people don't understand, but one of the biggest problems is being naïve with men and being surrounded by poor people my whole life.. And when I became a cam girl I became the RICH one! even though I was ONLY making a middle class income and no more... I actually sent a copy to my sisters and her friend because NO ONE understands.. They weren't there the whole time. They were living their own lives and thinking of other ways they can ask me for money haha



Thank You for sharing that.
It's so easy for others to make judgements on our lives. UNTIL they are forced to walk a similar path.
You have such a giving nature, that it becomes a detriment to your own life, at times.
It always reminds me of that saying, " No good deed goes unpunished."
Besides, people don't realize that you have 2 children who are relying on you!
Mad props to you.
Mad respect.
49067

Glamourmilf
10-24-2017, 07:09 AM
Thanks Glam,

The way I see it , and I left loads of other crap out, because it would have turned into a book. When did I ever have time? I didn't, something was happening every single month, I thought it was unbelievable when I was living in it, that something bad was always happening.. It still does!.. but I live in solitude and don't even try to get to know anyone. What for? Most likely they will end up needing, wanting or using me for something and the question is? will I know? will I say NO? Am I brave enough to let another person suffer? I remember many times my sister and her friend calling me and sleeping at truck stops for 3 month straight and it hurt me a lot.. and I had to sit there and say NO and let them suffer.. that was in 2013. One time I bought them a hotel room for 2 days because it was my sister's birthday but that's it.. Even during the hurricane a few months ago. I gave them $30 for gas because they had NONE and couldn't even drive down the street to evacuate if need be.. I couldn't have them dead on my conscious all because they needed gas.. it's not easy.. I think a lot of people don't understand, but one of the biggest problems is being naïve with men and being surrounded by poor people my whole life.. And when I became a cam girl I became the RICH one! even though I was ONLY making a middle class income and no more... I actually sent a copy to my sisters and her friend because NO ONE understands.. They weren't there the whole time. They were living their own lives and thinking of other ways they can ask me for money haha

I agree with keeping to yourself. 100% I recently wrote about this when my mom passed last month.
Putting my phone on silent was the BEST thing for my sanity.
Especially in this business, where we are catering to other's ( men's) needs all damn day!
At the end, I don't even want to reply to how I am when a check out clerk asks me. Geesh!
Transitioning to another job/ career is never easy, and seems impossible at times, so I can relate.
I'm always here ( pm) if you need to let off steam, and talk to anyone that ' gets it'.

CallistoMorgan
10-24-2017, 10:20 AM
I spent two hours on cam last night, didn't make a single token. Ugh. I'm returning from a 2 day break and quit my day job so really need to get serious about staying in longer even if no one is tipping.

TheBrownFox
10-24-2017, 11:51 AM
I spent two hours on cam last night, didn't make a single token. Ugh. I'm returning from a 2 day break and quit my day job so really need to get serious about staying in longer even if no one is tipping.

FOUR hours on MFC yesterday during the daytime, and only made 45 tokens from ONE guy in that time! FOUR fucking hours. Usually, I wouldn't even stay on a 'free chat' site for that long if doing that badly, but I was thinking about all my upcoming bills and trying to ignore the fact that my (already shitty) camscore's gonna suffer.

I should've just spent those four hours on Cams instead. At least I had two short c2c paid sessions on there (that's more than I can say for ImLive).

I think I'm looking forward to phasing out camming soon (or at least the free chat cam sites), and focusing more on clips, paid model shoots, and sexting, because fuck all of that wasted time in free chat...

itsnightlight
10-24-2017, 12:34 PM
RE-PEAT AF-TER ME!

COMPLIMENTSDONTPAYMYBILLS
COMPLIMENTSDONTPAYMYBILLS
COMPLIMENTSDONTPAYMYBILLS

bitch iz u srs?

>:( freeloaders are a run this morning on Chaturbate

sstrunks
10-24-2017, 09:45 PM
I've been making $10 an hour for the past two weeks. I'm at the point where I'm stuck but I want to just quit right now but I don't have anything equally dependable and that is sad. Camming gives me so much anxiety, like dancing and escorting did but I make way less and am working more so it's pretty much constant anxiety. Maybe I'll just quit tonight and sell all of my furniture to pay the bills lol.

LoraDoll
10-25-2017, 12:53 PM
slow and shitty the frafic in my room again.
wondering if it ll be pick up in 2-3 weeks maybe? last time it sucked for that long.

SuperPookie
10-25-2017, 01:28 PM
I have made 0 in free chat between 2 sites in 4 hours wtf. I did get a short Skype show and NiteFlirt call so it hasn't been a completely wasted day so far but this is ridiculous

Brilynne
10-25-2017, 01:48 PM
nightmarishly slow EVERYWHERE this afternoon. even my manyvids and c4s havent sold today. wtf.

DahliaSimone
10-25-2017, 01:52 PM
Just dead as hell....I'm writing this day off and gonna try and make it up the rest of the week. Humpday turned into dumpday. See? Even my jokes are suffering from the deathspell today.

SuperPookie
10-25-2017, 02:06 PM
Still nothing. I want to cry.

LoraDoll
10-25-2017, 02:15 PM
i have people in my room but all of them fucked up bitches. Like: anyone for fun? - "maybe..." 10 min later still nothing.
Ok, I see asshole day again, but thankfully only 2 hours left.
Now again I see nothing but nonsense.
They dont have a cent to spend, but they are clingy and demanding, while I know they are broke, I saw this pattern and guess what? I like... dont open ur fucking mouth, dont even come to my room, and dont stare at me. Better alone.

My face off cam, vaping peacefully. And oh yess! I just purchased my first vape pen, and I kinda like it.
I smoked like 15-20 small hand rolled cigs during the day, however, in the slow hours, I nearly became a chain smoker. :( With the vape, I smoked only 3 small cigs today. I use zero nikotin liquid. Much more better

HollyJaydeXXX
10-25-2017, 02:28 PM
I made $35 in the first 75 minutes and now the past 2.5 hours have been absolutely NOTHING

HollyJaydeXXX
10-25-2017, 02:45 PM
FYI, on Streamate there are almost 2000 models online right now! Customers are complaining of lagging, freezing and the cam feed going black.

SoloDesire
10-25-2017, 04:25 PM
FYI, on Streamate there are almost 2000 models online right now! Customers are complaining of lagging, freezing and the cam feed going black.

I've noticed the influx of models online lately! I'm guessing that's part of why we're having so many glitches and issues...also probably why we're not making any money.

lula_xoxox
10-25-2017, 05:03 PM
Camming is very bad when it comes to economic anxiety, I think most people... expect you to make loads of money off it, and honestly I think the girls who don't make a lot of money by camming are embarrassed sometimes to talk about it next to girls making $100+ an hour. I don't begrudge them the money they're making, good for them, I just think it can give people a very unrealistic picture of what camming is actually like for most people who do it. I've lived hand-to-mouth since I started doing this - but I was living hand-to-mouth before then too, and working a lot more.

Try to do something nice for yourself, do a really long, thorough stretching session, jump around, growl like a possessed gorilla, try to get some of that anxiety out of your body and clear your head.

THIS. Thanks Sovereign, your post just summed up a lot of my feelings on it and made me feel much better after what can only be described as a HISTORICALLY BAD SHIFT. Made $2.95 in 3.5 hours. Can't face doing anymore. Fuck this shit! So frustrating because I actually had a pretty good week last week (made $530 in 18 hours, that's really good for me these days), so was really hoping things were starting to head in the right direction again. I've not been on much this week, but I've done 7 hours and not even made it to $50 yet :-[ so depressing/anxiety-inducing.

Glad I'm not alone, but also I really hope it turns around for all of us soon!!

seashell
10-25-2017, 05:14 PM
Is this considered a holiday weekend? I wonder if things are slower because Halloween is coming up. Hmmmm.

Glamourmilf
10-25-2017, 07:42 PM
Slow as molasses, probably because of the World Series( which started Tues night). It's going on until next week. That, plus football most nights and all day Saturday and Sunday...just fml. :'(

LoraDoll
10-25-2017, 07:58 PM
^
But what. Whatever happens in the world lately, it s a reason to make rooms dead.

Really like "the wind blew today" > So it s dead.
https://i.giphy.com/media/3oEduPLmG4jUbxKxYQ/giphy.webp


Time to get prepared. it ll be funny.

HollyJaydeXXX
10-25-2017, 08:17 PM
It really didn’t occur to me that the World Series started... but I don’t cam at night so idk how that would effect me. Like I strategically cam around sports (Sunday morning before football, never at night on Mondays and Thursdays)...

I just wish SM would say SOMETHING. Like “hey, it’s been slow, we’ve been upgrading our servers” or some shit... like, for such a HUGE decrease in traffic and earnings, there HAS to be a logical explaination.

We all know summers are slow (kids out of school, family vacations) but damn, we were all so LIT that it was fall!

Has anyone reached out to them about traffic and technical issues and actually received a response? I submitted a few support requests last week and haven’t received as much as a pre-written email in response.

pixiepower329
10-25-2017, 10:07 PM
FYI, on Streamate there are almost 2000 models online right now! Customers are complaining of lagging, freezing and the cam feed going black.

It is important to note that SM artificially boosts those numbers. If you go through enough pages, you'll see people listed more than once.

HollyJaydeXXX
10-25-2017, 10:12 PM
It is important to note that SM artificially boosts those numbers. If you go through enough pages, you'll see people listed more than once.

Oh really?!?! I never knew that! Kinda like the “potential members” I’m sure!
Then why does shit start dropping and falling apart after around 1500?

Teddy_Bear
10-26-2017, 02:49 AM
Camming sucks big hairy balls. I've made for the whole month what I usually make in a week! I'm behind on absolutely everything this month and sitting out my hours is not paying off at all. I'm boreddddddd :(

Not to mention scared shitless about having taken on a new car when everything was going well grrrrrr.

HollyJaydeXXX
10-26-2017, 03:45 AM
Same! Been like this since the 2nd for me! Put in my same 25-30 Hours a week and haven’t made more than $300 a week. It’s like all the traffic disappeared.

I hope you’re enjoying your new car hun! Don’t stress yourself out too much! It HAS to pick up soon and regardless, we have no control over the situation so we shouldn’t beat ourselves up about it.

I have to make $260 a day now for the next week if I want to pay my rent on time. It’s daunting because I haven’t made more than $80 a day in three weeks. Looks like I’ll have to double down on my hours. God knows I certainly don’t want to!

Teddy_Bear
10-26-2017, 08:42 AM
Same! Been like this since the 2nd for me! Put in my same 25-30 Hours a week and haven’t made more than $300 a week. It’s like all the traffic disappeared.

I hope you’re enjoying your new car hun! Don’t stress yourself out too much! It HAS to pick up soon and regardless, we have no control over the situation so we shouldn’t beat ourselves up about it.

I have to make $260 a day now for the next week if I want to pay my rent on time. It’s daunting because I haven’t made more than $80 a day in three weeks. Looks like I’ll have to double down on my hours. God knows I certainly don’t want to!

Absolutely loving my new car but now a 5 year finance deal seems like a dauntingly long time, especially as I was planning on paying it early to avoid inflated interest. I'll just have to keep my fingers crossed because I'm not losing my 'baby' :'(

I know exactly how you feel. I went from earning $300-$500 a day during 'summer slowdown' to barely being able to break $100 a day if I'm lucky this month >:(

I earned $0.30 in 3 hours today and bounced LOL that is the last time I work the day shift during half term ever again.

pixiepower329
10-26-2017, 09:05 AM
I'm still able to hit 150-200 per day.. but I have had to seriously up my hours to accomplish that.

As to why it falls apart over 1500.. I have to wonder if it is cause and effect.. when dollars start going down.. I'm thinking they inflate the numbers to get more people browsing.

HollyJaydeXXX
10-26-2017, 12:18 PM
I'm still able to hit 150-200 per day.. but I have had to seriously up my hours to accomplish that.

As to why it falls apart over 1500.. I have to wonder if it is cause and effect.. when dollars start going down.. I'm thinking they inflate the numbers to get more people browsing.

Pixie... if you don't mind me asking, about how many are you doing now vs then? I know I have to increase my hours if I want to hit my daily min. but I am very scared that I will just be sitting here for hours staring at the screen.

Genoveve
10-26-2017, 03:51 PM
The last few days have been brutal for me.; two nights in a row I gave up and logged off at the 20 minute mark because I got no shows--which no shows in 20 minutes isn't abnormal--but there were no regulars coming into my room, like no one with a number by their name period, and I make at least half of my money from regulars. Then yesterday during the day I was online for an hour and twenty minutes-----and made $18. That's one of my absolute worst times online ever. I tried again at night, made nothing in 30 minutes and left, which means that in a combined total of almost 2 hours online I made $18. I was not a happy camper. So far today in a little over 3.5 hours I've made $104 so I'm still not a happy camper. Unfortunately I bailed on so many shifts that I now have to stick it out. >:(

I have noticed in the past that during the times when there's tons of chicks online(1800+) for days in a row that the money does tend to slow down significantly, and that has definitely been happening this week.

LoraDoll
10-26-2017, 04:41 PM
Well, I went down from 300+ a day to... 100 or something. Do this just to pay bills i wondering. But that s not the worst part. For me, the anxiety and depression what hits hard. I mean... just day after day I have the feeling now, that I waste my time on something fucking stupid shit. Yea waste my time, and my life. Since we have one life, and every minute wasted wont come back... it s a pain.
Like half year ago on good days I earned 600+... now If i can get 100 somehow, it s so dead, and I m like... wtf how the hell I earned "that much".
I work 80 hours / 2 week, so 14/10 days. 10/9 just fucking sucks a while ago, 1 maybe, is "okay-ish". Not a good rate.

And actually what makes me sick: I logging in. In that moment, there are 15 fucker in my room instant. And they stare and sit there till the end of time. Just stare. I say anything they just keep stare. 5 sec and I like: Kill me now.

And right now: regular comes in pvt, than leave instant. I ask in free, if he want to "rescue" me by any chance. > "from what?" ....are u fucking kidding me?!.... I ask why he came pv, and left instant. > "u looked pissed". my face was off cam whole time. I Really hope these morons just get hit by a bus.

pixiepower329
10-26-2017, 10:13 PM
Pixie... if you don't mind me asking, about how many are you doing now vs then? I know I have to increase my hours if I want to hit my daily min. but I am very scared that I will just be sitting here for hours staring at the screen.

I work SM and NF. My NF lines are always on, with my NF cam lines only being on when I'm already on cam on SM (I log out of SM when I get a NF call).

Back about 2 years ago. I could always hit my goal workint 5-6 hour shifts. These days-- sometimes I can still hit in 6 hours... but there are other times I'm hitting 10-11 hours to make $200. And.. there are occasional days when I can hit goals in 2 hours, but those are pretty damn rare. I generally have to work this like a real job... 8 hours a day.

TiffanySweetz
10-27-2017, 01:17 PM
next year is going to be my last year of camming full time. camming just isn't fun anymore, still lucrative though if you put in the long hours but fuck it! I did not join the adult industry to take off my clothes and make regular money. I am no longer allowing streamate to stress me out anymore, 150 a day is my goal and I log the fuck off after that. I can usually make that in 3 hours but the teeth that I have to pull to get that is annoying and draining as fuck. I am always within the first 2 rows of the front page, 100+ in my potential member box, and a average of about 20 ppl in my room at a time so I know it's not me that suck, the men are just cheap. My money is not adding up with my hours anymore. I used to make 100+ a hr. I don't want to wake up and worry about glitches,traffic,etc. I just want to get up put in my 8 hours a day and know that I am going to make the same amount weather it's a good or bad day...no amount of money is worth my peace and happiness. I am going to relocate to a city with cheaper cost of living and get my CDL and drive my life away lol, I may come back to cam online for extra spending money but never will I depend on it fully again.

Bananabunny
10-27-2017, 01:37 PM
I feel like I made a big mistake getting online today tbh
I just logged in and wrote "Yeahhh guys it's friday friday gonna get down on friday!! Let's party :D" and no fucking ass answers in freechat. LOL
I feel like this is gonna be a long night. A veeeeeeery long night. I'm considering quitting camming fridays, it's such a pain in the ass everytime.

SoloDesire
10-27-2017, 01:58 PM
I feel like I made a big mistake getting online today tbh
I just logged in and wrote "Yeahhh guys it's friday friday gonna get down on friday!! Let's party :D" and no fucking ass answers in freechat. LOL
I feel like this is gonna be a long night. A veeeeeeery long night. I'm considering quitting camming fridays, it's such a pain in the ass everytime.

Fridays are the worst!! I never put much time in on Fridays because it's never lucrative for me.

foxirox
10-27-2017, 02:22 PM
Really glad I didn't start on MFC this month..been watching some of the other models closely and some of the top models have been logging off early or looking really frustrated. I just can't wait until this crappy month is over to be honest - roll on November!!