Log in

View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread



Pages : 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206 207 208 209 210 211 212 213 214 215 216 217 218 219 220 221 222 223 224 225 226 227 228 229 230 231 232 233 234 235 236 237 238 239 240 241 242 243 244 245 246 247 248 249 250 251 252 253 254 255 256 257 258 259 260 261 262 263 264 265 266 267 268 269 270 271 272 273 274 275 276 277 278 279 280 281 282 283 284 285 286 287 288 289 290 291 292 293 294 295 296 297 298 299 300 301 302 303 304 305 306 307 308 309 310 311 312 313 314 315 316 317 318 319 320 321 322 323 324 325 326 327 328 [329] 330 331 332 333 334 335 336 337 338 339 340 341 342 343 344 345 346 347 348 349 350 351 352 353 354 355 356 357 358 359 360 361 362 363 364 365 366 367 368 369 370 371 372 373 374 375 376 377 378 379 380 381 382 383 384 385 386 387 388 389 390 391 392 393 394 395 396 397 398 399 400 401 402 403 404 405 406 407 408 409 410 411 412 413 414 415 416 417 418 419 420 421 422 423 424 425 426 427 428 429 430 431 432 433 434 435 436 437 438 439 440 441 442 443 444 445

magicgembliss
12-29-2017, 10:56 PM
Wow. Maybe because we don't believe in demonizing an entire group of people? Girls freak the fuck out when they see misogynistic men talking about how all women suck---but I see so many women turning around and doing the exact same thing to men. If anything camming has 1.) made me understand men better and 2.) LIKE men more because their patronage has provided me with a very comfortable lifestyle for a long time, plus I have had tons of really great customers over the years. I can only count on like one hand the amount of guys I remember spending money on me who were purposely assholes, the overwhelming majority of guys who spend money on me treat me with the utmost respect. It honestly makes me sad when I see how many chicks consider the guys who purchase our services to be nothing but losers and assholes because 1.) that is SO not an accurate summarization of my customer base and 2.) because I think that having that kind of view of your customer base is not only creating a psychologically unhealthy work situation for oneself but also is ultimately not conducive to money-making. If a car salesman hates and resents every potential customer that walks onto the lot, do you think he's ever going to become a top salesman? If someone opens a yoga studio and they secretly think that anyone who does yoga is a stupid yuppie and they hate everyone who books classes, do you think that their business is going to flourish? No. So does it seem likely that a chick who despises the male species and is completely disgusted by male sexuality would flourish as a camgirl? From what I have seen(and experienced myself) it definitely seems pretty unlikely.

When I see women like you who hate men and who say that they have had nothing but awful experiences with them---I 100% believe them. That kind of hostility doesn't come from nowhere, I don't doubt that you have had nothing but shitty men in your life. And likewise when I see misogynistic men who think that all women are evil because they've had nothing but awful experiences with them I believe them as well, I don't doubt for a second that they've had nothing but awful experiences with women because again that hostility doesn't come from nowhere. And just like how my wish for those misogynistic men is that they can somehow learn to not write off the entire female species and can learn to look beyond their painful past and present experiences with females, it's my same wish for man-hating females.

Also I'd like to add that when I said "the overwhelming majority of guys who spend money on me treat me with the utmost respect" above, I am emphasizing the spending of money part because like everyone else when I'm in freechat I get tons of rude trolls, this however has not left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to men because I recognize that internet trolling is not a male phenomenon---we're just mainly exposed to male ones because of the nature of our platform. If you hang out on social media you will see that there's just as many female trolls out there trolling various platforms.

^^ This this this so much this. Thank you..you've expressed perfectly a lot of what I was a bit intimidated to say myself on this thread...being a newbie and all...but tl;dr I like men, and I also like camming, and the men I cam for :D

anonymous camgirl
12-29-2017, 11:00 PM
I used to like men to.. when i was younger.. until 4 chan came.. once they destroy your whole life .. and send nude pics to all your facebook friends and family among other things.. let me know how you feel../ you girls are sitting here demonizing me,, but you have no idea the depths of what men are capable of.. i am speaking from 15 yrs of camming, porn , adult modeling background.. plus my real life with men... so please continue to stick up for men til they do the same to you... I don't blame you.. i felt the same way in my 20's.. i thought men were my friends.. i liked them more than women.. lil did i know why.


^^ This this this so much this. Thank you..you've expressed perfectly a lot of what I was a bit intimidated to say myself on this thread...being a newbie and all...but tl;dr I like men, and I also like camming, and the men I cam for :D

magicgembliss
12-29-2017, 11:02 PM
I am astonished you have such high respect for your cam customers.. most abuse me.. and that's about 98% who go to private.. no respect, no manners.. and name calling to boot..

I am new to camming, only several months behind my belt. But 1. this simply hasn't happened to me in private, not once. Free chat, sure. And 2. If you are being abused in private, you immediately stop the private, unless you are *choosing* to play along, taking it, for a rate of pay which is usually significantly above the pay grade of most Americans not utilizing specialized skills or higher educational degrees. That is a choice, however.

(And yes, it sucks if someone thinks they can abuse you verbally on this job, but we have myriad little widgets everywhere designed to prevent that.)

Genoveve
12-29-2017, 11:15 PM
I used to like men to.. when i was younger.. until 4 chan came.. once they destroy your whole life .. and send nude pics to all your facebook friends and family among other things.. let me know how you feel../ you girls are sitting here demonizing me,, but you have no idea the depths of what men are capable of.. i am speaking from 15 yrs of camming, porn, adult modeling background.. plus my real life with men... so please continue to stick up for men til they do the same to you... I don't blame you.. i felt the same way in my 20's.. i thought men were my friends.. i liked them more than women.. lil did i know why.

I have had a psycho customer or two in my day(and I mean PSYCHO) who have done similar things to me, fortunately they were never able to destroy my life because I never gave them the power to. So I know very well what men are capable of, I also know that there are female stalkers who enjoy ruining lives as well. PEOPLE are capable of evil, again it is not a male phenomenon. My experiences with cam psychos have again not turned me against the male species as a whole because I understand that there are always going to be psychopaths out there and I know that they are not an accurate representation of the entire population, male or female.


I am astonished you have such high respect for your cam customers.. most abuse me.. and that's about 98% who go to private.. no respect, no manners.. and name calling to boot.. so good for you.. I am sorry I cannot feel as you do as i have been highly abused.. i didn't ever do anything to deserve it.. it just happened... i never had good customers.. only men who have a sadistic disdain for women.. Very rare day i had a great guy.. just today i thought i happened on a great guy.. turns out he had his soul mate , she died and he tried to buy me for $300 gross on SM.. where i collected $105... he said we are the same, he loves me and i will see what he is talking about.. i flipped out on him naturally... you can't buy me for a $100 .... i am not going to be some man's slave because he is lonely!.... apparently we are not having the same experiences.. i never gave this man any reason to speak to me this way.. just polite pleasantries i give to anyone that comes to my room.. good for you.. hope you can stand them long enough.. i think when i became a hostile camgirl is when 4chan start trolling me for 4 yrs. .. to the point that i had swat team at my house.. had to change my phone number.. thought about moving but i own my home.. became paranoid.. etc etc.. i never looked at men the same since..i became a different kinda cam girl who watched her back.. once they have your social security number , address and phone number and real name.. you become a different person.. .. you apparently cannot understand the true depths of the hell you are diving into.. they bothered me because i got upset that a sm customer rated me 1 star.. and i lived 4 yrs of hell for that...

I had a regular of mine in exclusive the other day and I mentioned the fact that I rarely get disrespectful guys and I said something like that I guessed I was just lucky. He pointed out that I demand respect, and he is right on the money. Something that I do---which I feel like is a very foreign concept to most cam chicks---is that I am particular with who I let spend money on me. I regularly turn shows down and I regularly tell guys to leave in the middle of shows or kick them out. All money is not good money. As soon as I get the feeling that a guy is going to be more trouble or annoyance than he's worth I get rid of him. If a guy is requesting something that I don't want to do I turn him down. I don't try to please every guy that comes my way. I offer what I offer and that's it, I expect to be treated a certain kind of way and that's it. I run the show, not them. This is a huge part of why I generally have positive customer experiences. If you let people walk all over you there will be a never-ending stampede trampling you.

anonymous camgirl
12-29-2017, 11:17 PM
Yes , this is what i am talking about.. you have 8 police officers surrounding your house because someone found out who you are on cam and called the police and told them you murdered someone.. i could have lost my life or my children's.. and these ladies think this is not a big deal to cam.. it's serious.. and this can happen to any girl.. don't ever cry in free chat EVER for no reason... those are the ones they attack.

also i became so well known i couldn't even go on a dating site to meet a husband to have a normal life.. they knew who i was.. and used me and took advantage of me like i was some freaky whore.. mostly unbeknowngst to me.. it's absolutely crazy.. i have had to give up having a relationship for over 2 decades because of this nonsense.. i gave up my life so i could pay the bills.. so i am happy i can finally start wrapping up camming once and for all.. and it's almost over.... .. I totally get the 20 somethings.. i was there and felt the same way so i can't feel bad or get angry about it.. they aren't in their 40's yet.. i thought i would be married living a happy life at this point.. i tried and worked really hard to make that happen and so far it hasn't happened that way at all.


I just want to say I am so sorry that has been your experience, anonymous. She isn't lying or exaggerating. A lot of ugly shit goes on and I can't imagine enduring that for 15+ years. I don't hate my customers and they've been very good to me, but some of my close cam girlfriends have shared unfortunate experiences with me including stalking and general abuse where they had to leave the state or file a bunch of police reports and deal with huge headaches. I think this isn't discussed enough in our community.

pixiepower329
12-29-2017, 11:21 PM
This. Respectfully-- it is ok to say no.. and to block, boot, kick, etc anyone who doesn't respect you. And I'm not a young pup saying this. I started dancing back in 1995. I've worked in pretty much every corner of the adult industry. Are people asshats to me? Absolutely-- and they quickly find themselves removed from my presence.

I honestly don't think I could work in this industry if I had a wholly horrid opinion of the entire clientele base.

anonymous camgirl
12-29-2017, 11:28 PM
"I had a regular of mine in exclusive the other day and I mentioned the fact that I rarely get disrespectful guys and I said something like that I guessed I was just lucky. He pointed out that I demand respect, and he is right on the money. Something that I do---which I feel like is a very foreign concept to most cam chicks---is that I am particular with who I let spend money on me. I regularly turn shows down and I regularly tell guys to leave in the middle of shows or kick them out. All money is not good money. As soon as I get the feeling that a guy is going to be more trouble or annoyance than he's worth I get rid of him. If a guy is requesting something that I don't want to do I turn him down. I don't try to please every guy that comes my way. I offer what I offer and that's it, I expect to be treated a certain kind of way and that's it. I run the show, not them. This is a huge part of why I generally have positive customer experiences. If you let people walk all over you there will be a never-ending stampede trampling you. "

This here is exactly the way i treat the cam guys... i don't do shows with all guys if they misbehave.. all that you described .. i turn down shows all the time , i can't get it up i say... i still have the woman haters in full force... i honestly believe it's because i am an Empath Psychic maybe.. men are always hating me.. I was raped when i was a virgin .. it never ended .. and i am a force to be reckoned with.. I will kick the shit out of a man.. I am a fire sign.. but that doesn't stop them.. I can't even have a nice holiday without some psychopath from the past messaging me to think i will allow him to climb aboard this train.. .. i dunno what it is.. but apparently i am a bitch they want to kill..lol... and i became that bitch they want to kill when the trolls threatened my actual life and my son's lives.. i never changed since t hen.. i have calmed down with the psychiatric trauma and paranoia but still the bitch.. before them i was just annoyed but never said anything.. just smiled and quiet.. something changed inside of me that won't go away.

Genoveve
12-29-2017, 11:38 PM
I totally get the 20 somethings.. i was there and felt the same way so i can't feel bad or get angry about it.. they aren't in their 40's yet.. i thought i would be married living a happy life at this point.. i tried and worked really hard to make that happen and so far it hasn't happened that way at all.

Even though I am not a 20-something I feel like this cautionary tale is pointed towards me. You keep saying that the reason why my present circumstances are so different from yours is because our life experiences have been so completely different, and I 100% agree. So I think it's safe for me to say that my future will be turning out pretty differently as a result as well.

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 12:07 AM
... so please continue to stick up for men til they do the same to you... .

Ummm do you think that "men" are like this single solid block entity? They are all individuals.

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 12:11 AM
I honestly don't think I could work in this industry if I had a wholly horrid opinion of the entire clientele base.

I'm truly worried for anyone forcing themselves to do any job in this industry without a strong confidence level, mental stability and understanding/realistic opinion/love of men. Anyone with a history of abuse or trauma that hasn't dealt with that should not be here. Sexuality itself is a dangerous thing. I would advise to stop as soon as possible to prevent further emotional damage. This is common sense to me.

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 12:16 AM
I regularly turn shows down and I regularly tell guys to leave in the middle of shows or kick them out. All money is not good money. As soon as I get the feeling that a guy is going to be more trouble or annoyance than he's worth I get rid of him. If a guy is requesting something that I don't want to do I turn him down. I don't try to please every guy that comes my way. I offer what I offer and that's it, I expect to be treated a certain kind of way and that's it. I run the show, not them. This is a huge part of why I generally have positive customer experiences. If you let people walk all over you there will be a never-ending stampede trampling you.

That's the only way to do this job..or life.

*applause*

ravenskyy
12-30-2017, 08:20 AM
Well I have plenty insight into millenials as my son ( age 27) tells me on a daily basis the way his generation thinks.. he keeps me in check if I ever get out of line with this bubble I live in where men hate women so greatly.... you will see one day.. when I was your age whatever age you are .. I am guessing in your 20's .. I was happy, optimistic.. and had serious joy for life.. I am sorry I cannot describe to you how the next 20 yrs will go.. I had NO earthly idea I would grow to be this pessimistic, hateful cynical bitch who hasn't gotten laid in 6 yrs.. who was forced to raise 2 kids by herself that she never wanted for 17 yrs without any help.. I never wanted to be that woman who was raped , beaten and told was nothing and worthless and a no good bitch.. and taken for all her money and was homeless.. carless... you think I want to be this? you think I wanted this for my life.. hahaha.. I dunno who this person is.. this isn't my true self.. the only way I can redeem myself is the day I don't have to be here anymore.. and since you want to argue with me.. why is a woman who has 2 kids and one on the way having to live this wretched life? just curious.. I could never be pregnant to cam.. this is awful.. but I guess not so for a 20 something year old.. I didn't care much about anything when I was in my 20's .. From where I stand.. I can't believe men make their women do this for a living.. so I am not sure where you are coming from.. if I had a man.. I would never put up with this abuse.

Wow, this really escalated. I got distracted by another good work day.
I don't have anything to say in regards to the other posts, however, you need to watch what you say. How dare you question my reasons for camming and my relationship, going so far as to accuse my husband of forcing me into this industry. You're definitely jealous and don't say that you aren't. Anyone that would make an accusation like that is a jealous and bitter person.

You say that men are sick and disgusting, but you just proved that you are as well. Don't you dare make accusations about my state of mind or my family. You keep thinking someone is arguing with you because all you want to do is complain and remain. That's sad and I did feel bad for you, but not anymore. You can stay jealous, angry and bitter if you want too.

You ask why I'm living this "wretched life", last time I checked, you were the one being hateful and angry. I may have bad days here and there, but I have never been as miserable as you.

I live this life because I choose too. Unlike you, I will not complain and remain, I will use this as a stepping stone to bigger and better things. When I'm your age, I will no longer be involved in this industry.

Maybe if you weren't so resentful towards all men for the choices made by a few men, you'd be able to find peace and happiness. Maybe if you loved yourself, you'd be able to find someone to love you.

At first when I read your post, it angered me. But now it makes me laugh. I busted my ass this month and exceeded my expectations and no matter how good or bad my day is, I know that I have a wonderful and loving husband. I am treated with more love and respect than I could have asked for. So you can think and say what you want hun, but you're only proving my point.

Complain and remain, that's why things stay the same.

seashell
12-30-2017, 09:33 AM
Eep, this is getting heavy >_>

I just came to complain about a Skype customer. He's a first timer "exploring" femdom, and he was so new to it... this sexy Italian guy with puppy dog eyes and a rock hard body... I had him fingering his booty and almost ready to cum, but our time ran out. He keeps messaging me saying he felt terrible that I ended the call, because he thought we had a connection and he trusted me enough to give me his anal virginity. lol.

Goldenx.Chiquis
12-30-2017, 05:51 PM
I am compelled to add that "all men suck" would be a logical impossibility indicating that all 3.5 billion males on the planet "suck". Just like when people say "women are X" or "women do Y", it is an irrational statement.

Lmao I'm also compelled to add that women in general or in the Sex Industry at the very LEAST reserve the right to make a blanket statement saying "All men suck." Now has anyone met all 3.5 billion male identifying people? No. Have they've been in the game or even had civvie experiences for them to say that? More than likely so. The difference between a misogynistic male saying he hate females blah blah and and woman venting that she hates men.... Is that males are more physically inclined to enact on whatever malicious thoughts they harbor and usually results into violence against women and sex workers at higher rates. So a woman saying she hates men holds no power over men to put them in fear of their lives by any means due to their frustration. Not saying that female retaliation doesn't exist, just not on the same scale of male violence and entitlement. Misogyny kills, Misandry irritates.

Goldenx.Chiquis
12-30-2017, 06:00 PM
Wow. Maybe because we don't believe in demonizing an entire group of people? Girls freak the fuck out when they see misogynistic men talking about how all women suck---but I see so many women turning around and doing the exact same thing to men. If anything camming has 1.) made me understand men better and 2.) LIKE men more because their patronage has provided me with a very comfortable lifestyle for a long time, plus I have had tons of really great customers over the years. I can only count on like one hand the amount of guys I remember spending money on me who were purposely assholes, the overwhelming majority of guys who spend money on me treat me with the utmost respect. It honestly makes me sad when I see how many chicks consider the guys who purchase our services to be nothing but losers and assholes because 1.) that is SO not an accurate summarization of my customer base and 2.) because I think that having that kind of view of your customer base is not only creating a psychologically unhealthy work situation for oneself but also is ultimately not conducive to money-making. If a car salesman hates and resents every potential customer that walks onto the lot, do you think he's ever going to become a top salesman? If someone opens a yoga studio and they secretly think that anyone who does yoga is a stupid yuppie and they hate everyone who books classes, do you think that their business is going to flourish? No. So does it seem likely that a chick who despises the male species and is completely disgusted by male sexuality would flourish as a camgirl? From what I have seen(and experienced myself) it definitely seems pretty unlikely.

When I see women like you who hate men and who say that they have had nothing but awful experiences with them---I 100% believe them. That kind of hostility doesn't come from nowhere, I don't doubt that you have had nothing but shitty men in your life. And likewise when I see misogynistic men who think that all women are evil because they've had nothing but awful experiences with them I believe them as well, I don't doubt for a second that they've had nothing but awful experiences with women because again that hostility doesn't come from nowhere. And just like how my wish for those misogynistic men is that they can somehow learn to not write off the entire female species and can learn to look beyond their painful past and present experiences with females, it's my same wish for man-hating females.

Also I'd like to add that when I said "the overwhelming majority of guys who spend money on me treat me with the utmost respect" above, I am emphasizing the spending of money part because like everyone else when I'm in freechat I get tons of rude trolls, this however has not left a bad taste in my mouth in regards to men because I recognize that internet trolling is not a male phenomenon---we're just mainly exposed to male ones because of the nature of our platform. If you hang out on social media you will see that there's just as many female trolls out there trolling various platforms.

I just have a question.... So what was the point of this paragraph to go in about how women shouldn't go off and write off men in their entirety... Then say you understand why men and/or women could feel that way about each other due to past experiences... Then make a straw man argument and say "I recognize that internet trolling is not a male phenomenon---we're just mainly exposed to male ones because of the nature of our platform. If you hang out on social media you will see that there's just as many female trolls out there trolling various platforms." What do female trolls on other social media platforms have to do us SEX WORKERS on SEX WORKER PLATFORMS being trolled and harassed by males???? How do you slip that into a discussion and think that it supports your argument? I'd like to understand

Genoveve
12-30-2017, 06:16 PM
What do female trolls on other social media platforms have to do us SEX WORKERS on SEX WORKER PLATFORMS being trolled and harassed by males????

I'm sorry but I don't understand what exactly your issue is with what I said. I never said that what female trolls say on social media affects online adult entertainers. I'm not able to make the reason for why I brought it up any more clear than I already did in said post.

bbwbrianna
12-30-2017, 06:25 PM
I don't think women hating men is an isolated case. Sorry to say that many women hate men, especially in the sex industry. I hate most men that's why I am content sitting in front of my computer taking their money. I thought we were on a support forum for sex workers? Many of us complain about men but whenever Anonymous speaks up there is somehow something wrong with her? Life is not all rainbows and unicorns. I'm only 31 and already hate men and I feel entitled to. She is entitled to her opinion just like everyone else. I will only believe in reverse sexism when men are being raped and killed at the rate women are. I felt compelled to reply because this is just ridiculous.

KatM
12-30-2017, 06:26 PM
In regards to the subject u ladies discuss here now, i can tell for sure that sometimes things happen and it changes ur perspective in life completely, it happened to me this year and no, i did not find me a man, just changed view towards men, i am more indulgent with them now but still on guard, they MEN, they different than us, not better, not worse but Men.

Yeah, shit happens to us in life, some are affected more than others, it's normal, we are different people, we react differently and cope in our own ways, nothing bad about it, everyone does what it feel best to them.
God bless us all, wish u a Happy & Healthy 2018!

Goldenx.Chiquis
12-30-2017, 06:30 PM
I don't think women hating men is an isolated case. Sorry to say that many women hate men, especially in the sex industry. I hate most men that's why I am content sitting in front of my computer taking their money. I thought we were on a support forum for sex workers? Many of us complain about men but whenever Anonymous speaks up there is somehow something wrong with her? Life is not all rainbows and unicorns. I'm only 31 and already hate men and I feel entitled to. She is entitled to her opinion just like everyone else. I will only believe in reverse sexism when men are being raped and killed at the rate women are. I felt compelled to reply because this is just ridiculous.

Thank you!

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 06:51 PM
If it helps at all, I feel rather protective of the men who are after all, our customer base. Not to say there aren't real psychos and undesirables out there but the vast majority are respectful, needing something they are often not able to get easily or for free and I feel a therapeutic kinship with them. Maybe because I'm also a domme, cater to fetishes and have a minimal tolerance for jerkiness.

I don't think people are attacking Anonymous because she is speaking up about her negative experiences, I think there is backlash because she doesn't seem remotely emotional stable or capable of handling the shit that comes with this job and is stubborn enough to criticize others' perceptions when they don't match her own.

I'm SO not into the SJW attitude of "reverse sexism isn't sexism" or "reverse racism isn't racism" - that is so dangerous. Never give a pass to ideology and prejudice of ANY kind, even if one kind is more excusable than another. It sickens the mind. Also, don't forget that rage... digs two graves.

Genoveve
12-30-2017, 07:46 PM
I'm SO not into the SJW attitude of "reverse sexism isn't sexism" or "reverse racism isn't racism" - that is so dangerous. Never give a pass to ideology and prejudice of ANY kind, even if one kind is more excusable than another. It sickens the mind. Also, don't forget that rage... digs two graves.

Same. It's sad that taking a stand against the vilifying of an entire demographic of people is looked down upon on, you would think that history would have taught people by now why doing so is always a bad idea.

magicgembliss
12-30-2017, 08:29 PM
Same. It's sad that taking a stand against the vilifying of an entire demographic of people is looked down upon on, you would think that history would have taught people by now why doing so is always a bad idea.

LOL Exactly! Rwandan genocide....the French revolution (all of them)..Bolshevik revolution, Stalin's purges.. it's almost as if some people are so set in a victim mentality that they can't conceive that people of certain "oppressor" groups could ever suffer too.

caramelcraze
12-31-2017, 10:28 AM
Yesterday was awesome. people threw money at me on every site I logged into. today it's like pulling teeth.
https://i.imgur.com/QHXI4F0.gif

Guess I'll rally after football and try again.

AuroraJade
12-31-2017, 11:29 AM
I'm SO not into the SJW attitude of "reverse sexism isn't sexism" or "reverse racism isn't racism" - that is so dangerous. Never give a pass to ideology and prejudice of ANY kind, even if one kind is more excusable than another. It sickens the mind. Also, don't forget that rage... digs two graves.

Ugh.indeed. SJW's are so toxic. A dangerous trend that is coming here to Europe too. The problem is that they always need to be an extreme, and that everybody who doesnt agree with them is a ' nazi' . Unfortunately the adult industry is full of these people :(. Also known as the people who killed August Ames. Internet SJW Lynch mobs.

There is nothing in the world I hate more than SJW's.

anonymous camgirl
12-31-2017, 12:24 PM
So fascinating how you girls can turn this conversation:


Quote Originally Posted by Cutie101 View Post

I am related to what you say. I was thinking it will make it rain this year, but... not. Only idiots who only try to make you feel bad for logging on Xmas, like: "Oh, is so sad u need money so much that u work on Xmas day"... Wtf dude???
I swear men become more and more pigs. by each year. And they wonder why women start to be so bitter.


ME: I asked them yesterday why a lot of men hate women... This cam customer told me to go watch the movie 8 MM with Nicholas Cage.. it's about a rich old dude who buys a snuff film for a million dollars.. Nic says towards the END but WHY? why did he kill that girl in that movie just to get off? And his lawyer said.. "Because he could" He liked it .. This is why men hate women, treat women like shit and spit in our face.. just for the simple fact that they CAN!

Needless to say I cried afterwards.. this is all the evil that men do to women.. Just because they can do it and get away with it. That's it.. no real reason.. just evil filth. And then furthermore commenting about my favorite customer that I like.

"Seeing how I am 45.. they have been my customer base for a while.. spoiled entitled and cheap is right..... My favorite customer is a man my age who is alone and has a great job and money to spend.. a GFE.. someone to talk to and connect with online and have some intimate time with as well as good conversation about life... THE ONLY customer I like."


------Into mass genocide, sexism, racism and Social justice warriors.. simply amazing! lmao.. I had to bow out because the conversations just was a SMH and jaw dropping what the fuckings?? Somehow that conversation has turned into some twisted, contorted rant of WTF's------

miss cleo
12-31-2017, 12:38 PM
Last cam show of the year on AW and I just got a chargeback! Fucking cunt may 2018 be miserable for you utter scum.��

laurielegs
12-31-2017, 01:12 PM
If it helps at all, I feel rather protective of the men who are after all, our customer base. Not to say there aren't real psychos and undesirables out there but the vast majority are respectful, needing something they are often not able to get easily or for free and I feel a therapeutic kinship with them. Maybe because I'm also a domme, cater to fetishes and have a minimal tolerance for jerkiness.

I don't think people are attacking Anonymous because she is speaking up about her negative experiences, I think there is backlash because she doesn't seem remotely emotional stable or capable of handling the shit that comes with this job and is stubborn enough to criticize others' perceptions when they don't match her own.

I'm SO not into the SJW attitude of "reverse sexism isn't sexism" or "reverse racism isn't racism" - that is so dangerous. Never give a pass to ideology and prejudice of ANY kind, even if one kind is more excusable than another. It sickens the mind. Also, don't forget that rage... digs two graves.

I can see both sides of this discussion. Rage digs two graves - love that expression.

My attitude toward men changed a lot when I first got into the adult industry, camming, understanding their fetishes and I saw that even the most powerful men have the same needs and weaknesses. I felt I understood men so much more and was able to communicate and deal with them more effectively in all aspects of life.

As I've gotten older I find myself more and more disappointed in men though, both dealing with customers and in my personal life.

Didn't think much could shock me but the widespread sexual abuse of women coming out this year in the media, the sheer scope of it has floored me. It happened to me constantly when I was younger in the corporate world so I don't know why I'm really that surprised. None of the men I viewed as "good" really stopped any of the harassment or spoke up for me.
I guess sometimes you think you're the only one. It's been amazing to see it come to light and have real consequences instead of them just getting a slap on the wrist or worse having the woman blamed.

I don't want to hate all men but seeing how widespread the abuse is and having experienced it myself it's not easy. I've lost respect for so many men in the last year its very hard for me to look at any man and not wonder if he is like that too.

hyori
12-31-2017, 01:16 PM
Only men will spend good money to see me spread my ass cheeks and ask them to smell and eat my asshole. There is no harm to anyone doing this, that's why camming is a glorious profession. I can literally make money telling people to eat my shit.

Take that rage and use it! It's the best kind of therapy, where else are you able to actually express and utilize your anger in such a productive way without actual physical violence?

We're all girls with dragon tattoo's.

That being said, I was sexually assaulted by three men at the age of 9 and physically abused by my father until I left home. If anyone should hate men, it's probably me. I was very fortunate to have extremely good male father figures in my life to show me that men can be selfless and pure--my grandfather and uncle. I'm alive because of them. I also have a wonderful, amazing husband who supports me in every way and I know without a doubt he would do anything for me. I am thankful every day.

There is a documentary on Netflix about Tony Robbins and although he may be too commercial and cringey for many, I think it is worthwhile to watch because of one segment where there is a breakthrough moment with girl that was raised in a cult called, "Children of God", where the leaders of this cult would have sex with girls as soon as young as six years old. She was repeatedly raped by several of the male leaders and raised to believe this was the norm. I love the way Tony helps her. The documentary is called, "I Am Not Your Guru".

The world is getting better folks. We need to see the true stats:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4SWKVCBFQ

bbwbrianna
12-31-2017, 01:19 PM
I can see both sides of this discussion. Rage digs two graves - love that expression.

My attitude toward men changed a lot when I first got into the adult industry, camming, understanding their fetishes and I saw that even the most powerful men have the same needs and weaknesses. I felt I understood men so much more and was able to communicate and deal with them more effectively in all aspects of life.

As I've gotten older I find myself more and more disappointed in men though, both dealing with customers and in my personal life.

Didn't think much could shock me but the widespread sexual abuse of women coming out this year in the media, the sheer scope of it has floored me. It happened to me constantly when I was younger in the corporate world so I don't know why I'm really that surprised. None of the men I viewed as "good" really stopped any of the harassment or spoke up for me.
I guess sometimes you think you're the only one. It's been amazing to see it come to light and have real consequences instead of them just getting a slap on the wrist or worse having the woman blamed.

I don't want to hate all men but seeing how widespread the abuse is and having experienced it myself it's not easy. I've lost respect for so many men in the last year its very hard for me to look at any man and not wonder if he is like that too.

That's exactly what it is for me. I have no desire to commit mass genocide against men because I'm not a violent person. I just choose to avoid them in real life because I've been dealing with undesirables since I was 15. I don't like people trying to force them down my throat and insist I need them in my life. I avoid them like the plague and probably will till I die. Some of us are being taken waaaaaaaaaay out of context here over a few blanket statements that should not be taken personally on a sex workers support site.

TheBrownFox
12-31-2017, 04:23 PM
Only idiots who only try to make you feel bad for logging on Xmas, like: "Oh, is so sad u need money so much that u work on Xmas day"... Wtf dude???


I chuckle at the men who ask things like "Why are you working on *insert holiday here*?" or "Do you have a cold? Honey, why are you on cam if you're sick? You need to take care of yourself." LMAO. Oh? So does that mean that if I hadn't gotten on cam, you would've sent me a huge offline tip of X tokens to make up for it? Hmmm? Yeah, I didn't think so... :P

magicgembliss
12-31-2017, 05:43 PM
The world is getting better folks. We need to see the true stats:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx4SWKVCBFQ

God yeah it is...I remember even as a kid (that was a few decades ago ;) how shitty everything was. Literally, every single aspect of my life now is better on multiple levels, from technology, to urban landscape, to people's attitudes and levels of knowledge, to career and lifestyle choices: the internet is only one aspect of it. I could begin a rant about it easily. But I just wanted to add some more stats in this direction: https://www.amazon.com/Better-Angels-Our-Nature-Violence/dp/0143122010

The only constant in human nature, despite what people think, is adaptability: fact. Most people are cowardly morons: fact. Only a few are critically analytical, rebellious or heroic. Fact. Offer people societal stability coupled a lot of entertainment and most will easily offer you more kindness than cruelty. Fact. Just be careful of who you get close to because of what lies beneath the surface with most people. We regress quickly. Look up transpersonal psychology's Hierarchy of Needs.

That's what's happening in the world now, it's way better than ever on multiple levels, and a lot of it has to do with social consciousness, the level of choice and social complexity, a shift to urban centers, and population numbers which have almost doubled in 50 years. I really hope we can take this shit ALL the way- into a WAY advanced global society with superior consciousness and superior technology far beyond what most of us imagine..if we don't kill the planet or each other first...

This is just a theory but one thing I seem to see in common throughout the really traumatic experiences I hear about is rural poverty. Maybe this is a stereotype and I know that abuse takes place everywhere, I know mine did- but it seems like it's always worse when the victim's environment is isolated and rural. The true horror stories I hear seem to be in some small town somewhere. I guess they can get away with it for longer?

magicgembliss
12-31-2017, 05:49 PM
Yesterday was awesome. people threw money at me on every site I logged into. today it's like pulling teeth.
https://i.imgur.com/QHXI4F0.gif

Guess I'll rally after football and try again.

Ah, football! Is that on tonight? My male friends only watch MMA, LOL. Hope it's going to get busier tonight..I couldn't work yesterday.

DonaDiabla
12-31-2017, 06:17 PM
Camming sucked yesturday because Visit-X 's system keep missing up for me. Also, because I recieved my first negative review on Extralunchmoney. But that was not because any of my videos, audio, or kik shows. It was because of custom sci-fi story. Well, at least I made 50 credits off that story but I really don't get negative reviews. :(

magicgembliss
12-31-2017, 06:23 PM
I don't want to hate all men but seeing how widespread the abuse is and having experienced it myself it's not easy. I've lost respect for so many men in the last year its very hard for me to look at any man and not wonder if he is like that too.

Just remember that Hollywood and the NYC media circus are NOT a random sample of people. I got noticed all the time esp when I was younger and I was never harassed by a coworker working in that industry, even once at 30 Rock where Matt Lauer I think worked. I chalk most of it up to people just being cowards and hiring shitty and powerful people due to celebrity nespitism and corruption. My feeling is that those hiring knew these people were (at least somewhat) shits from the start, but they were big names or were slotted as potentials. So anything they did was going to go unpunished....And secondly, a weird misogynistic need to oppress women's power, to dismiss or warp the image of people like Rose McGowan who always rebelled, but gave very specific reasons for her rebelling. Roseanne is one of the first examples I remember too. They tried to dismiss her because she's outspoken, but acted as if it was because she was "fat and rude". No- she was startingly insightful and happened to be fat. But this is a structural/social problem rather than the problem of men showing their penises to everyone, which by the way, can we just admit, is NOT a mentally stable behavior? LOL In other words, I question how these shits got into power to begin with, not what THEY did, and even more importantly, why do we as a society, GIVE *anyone* that level of power? Why do we seem to need to give people these positions, and then give them to fewer of certain KINDS of people?

Re: misandry..I'm more worried for younger women who hear this stuff for their entire lives and think "oh men are shit anyway so whatever" and wind up not expecting anything from them, to their deep dismay, like I once did- than I am worried for the men who get their feelings hurt by misandrist talk, although that's not right, either. I had a worse conception of men when I was young, from what I heard from other women, than from anything they had actually done to me. And it took me a long time to realize that, and how this negative conception of the male gender also lets shitty, pathological men off the hook when you just think "all men are shit"..then we expect less from them...and the cycle of female oppression continues..

caramelcraze
01-03-2018, 10:21 AM
Camming sucked yesturday because Visit-X 's system keep missing up for me. Also, because I recieved my first negative review on Extralunchmoney. But that was not because any of my videos, audio, or kik shows. It was because of custom sci-fi story. Well, at least I made 50 credits off that story but I really don't get negative reviews. :(

I got my first negative a few months back because a file corrupted on elm (not on any of the others I posted to though). dude left a negative review without contacting me so I could attempt to make it right. Even tried reaching out to him afterwards to send an alternate download link and he didn't even say thanks. I was livid!

Bananabunny
01-03-2018, 01:09 PM
Funny, some dude tried to betray me today. He asked me to seduce him then I told him to tip gold. then he asks if I want a pvt show. He was just like:

Ragged: ...has entered private chat.

What??a??Retard??

Banned his ass.

lLilly May
01-03-2018, 10:49 PM
bleh today was crap,tried to have a countdown which i don't usually do,it was poop,didn't even get a 3rd way there

BubblyBlonde
01-04-2018, 08:54 PM
How is everyone's week? The past 4 days I have not made shit. Today only $9. Plenty of traffic to my Skype ads, but no paying customers. Streamate I have shit for traffic.

magicgembliss
01-05-2018, 03:23 AM
Funny, some dude tried to betray me today. He asked me to seduce him then I told him to tip gold. then he asks if I want a pvt show. He was just like:

Ragged: ...has entered private chat.

What??a??Retard??

Banned his ass.

They think they're Soooo slick....it's probably the most attention this loser got all week.

caramelcraze
01-05-2018, 03:53 AM
How is everyone's week? The past 4 days I have not made shit. Today only $9. Plenty of traffic to my Skype ads, but no paying customers. Streamate I have shit for traffic.

I feel ya. it's been quiet on sm now that the holidays are over.

DahliaSimone
01-06-2018, 03:54 PM
This week has suuuuuuuucked. Bad. Not how i wanted to start my New Year lol. Usually i can count on Saturday, but today was just.....awful.

lula_xoxox
01-06-2018, 07:52 PM
Don't you just hate it when all you get are 2-3 minute shows? It's been pretty busy for me traffic-wise tonight, but people just aren't sticking around!! You find yourself some dude laying it on thick about how submissive he is and how he wants to spoil you, so you try and hustle, and he either takes you private for all of 90 seconds or he fucks off! SO ANNOYING. I feel like I should've made so much more tonight >:(

Also the SM broadcaster can kiss my ass.

ALSO had a dude take me for a 30 minute exclusive block session and thought I was quids in, but then he left with no explanation after 2 minutes 40 seconds >:(>:(>:( ARGH

LoraDoll
01-07-2018, 09:33 AM
it s getting dead again after the holidays. Yesterday was a horror, today idk... sitting here in a dead room with broke people again who i hate, and they do nothing just irritate,and annoy me... Too much time wasted, and these people just fucking sucks. Hard to reach min goal again.

I sitting here like: okay, take deep breath. Dont look there! Dooont loook there!!! Time ll just pass by somehow. Just dont look there!

I hope this year, there ll be 2x more studio girl, so everybody ll earn fucking good with this , except the models, who actually do it.

pippapippa
01-08-2018, 02:23 PM
Is it ungodly slow on Streamate for everyone else or just me today?

Bananabunny
01-08-2018, 02:24 PM
Is it ungodly slow on Streamate for everyone else or just me today?

Same here. I was about to ask the same. 7$ in 1 hour and 30 minutes. I hope I have more luck on Chaturbate now!

DahliaSimone
01-08-2018, 03:51 PM
Is every fucking dude stuck on stupid today or what? Was there some lunar cycle tied to testosterone or an atmospheric shift that caused the male brain to shrink temporarily? Every guy today has been such a waste of time and breath!!! Even my best, longest running SM client came in my room, when there were 2 other guys who wanted pvts, took me pvt for 10 seconds (long enough where he didnt have to pay) just long enough to effectively clear out my room. Dont think i wont ban your stupid ass just because you think we have a history. Fuck that. One of the dudes messaged me to come back and get a show, which i did, and he proceeded to talk my head off for 10 minutes, no pvt, left. Not to mention the dude who decided that calling my a dirty slut and that he wanted me to funnel my own piss into my ass within the first two sentences was a good idea.....Jesus. Broke, bitter, and pissed off now lol. Im just gonna chalk this day up as a loss, cause its been hours of this......i need a blunt.

Scorpio Girl
01-08-2018, 05:37 PM
Last night sucked on SM. I could only stand to work about an hour and a half. I had one decent show and the rest were all freeloaders and assholes.

WendiStarr
01-08-2018, 07:06 PM
SM is full of annoying freeloaders today.

ravenskyy
01-08-2018, 07:43 PM
I woke up this morning to someone trying to scam me on Skype. Then more cheap losers that didn't want to pay to text me. Gotta love Mondays! Not!

Bridgetxo
01-08-2018, 11:43 PM
Tonight has been so slow! I'm done with 5 hours and I have barely anything to show for it. I'm done for today. Gonna try to get some rest and hope tomorrow is a better day