View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
magicgembliss
02-01-2019, 03:20 PM
Heyy I wanted to say for anyone reading this keep your head up and i would like to offer a alternative view. First I would like to say IÂ’m sorry for anyone who is feeling horrible, not making enough money to pay their bills and feel like this industry is not for them.
If you want to change your job by all means change jobs but I would like to say this to possibly cheer you up “could you imagine if camming and or phone sex and other types of sex work did not exist? What if this was the 1940s and you was in the same situation bills to pay and possibly kids to feed? What would you do?
Im not saying your pain, suffering, and anixety isnt real or that it doesnt matter, but even if you are barely making money lets all be happy we live in a time to make money from our homes LEAGALLY. Also i would like to say to everyone here believe it or not you are doing a great job financially. You probably thinking no im not, i can barely afford my bills, i have no savings, i have no money for vacations. So let me tell you soemthing.
My first year of as a sex work ended and lets just say im barely above the poverty line ( strictly pso work). When i realized how much i made i felt like shit! I felt unaccomplished and worthless especially since i have a four year degree i really thought about suicide. Imreally honest to god did.
Until i was reading an article how majority of americans are not as financially well as we think we are. They had a income calculator in the article i put in my information in. You know what,Me, making the money i did this year, having a bachelors and being a black female i am financially better than 25% of all americans. Thats mind blowing for me because i felt like scum on the bottom of a barrel lower than the lowest 1%.
See we all compare ourselves to the high earners the people that make 100k plus a year, even millionaire & billionaire dollar earners. But hereÂ’s the thing if you make more than 60k your in the top percent of earner across the country.not the top 1% but you are considered a high earner.
Now it might not feel like your a high earner based on where you live because of the inflation of living costs in some states like new york and California. But use these two calculators and you will see where you really stand financially compared to people in your country and WORLDWIDE. Remember its always great to strive for more and having dreams and ambitions, theres is nothing wrong with wanted more out of your life BUT ont let unrealistic dreams prevent you from realizing how lucky you are. :). Remember that atleast 100 people would be willing to trade lives with you.
1) http://graphics.wsj.com/what-percent/
2) http://www.globalrichlist.com
Im not affliated with the donation group of the second income calculator i just like how it breaks ot down and bring in to perspective.
When i was suicidal and wanted to end my life because of my financials i found this and relaize how lucky i am. I still want more money! Belive me i do. Lol. But at the end of the day i remind myself how lucky i am in my life even when i dont feel lucky and i hope you do as well.
great post!! it's still a better job than anythingi've had before- full stop. good days outweigh the bad ones for me! even when lately it feels like it's all bad days!!
Miss_ShaSha
02-01-2019, 04:03 PM
My back is seizing up. I've logged 5 hours today and I've tried to remain positive, but I've made $15 and I'm at my wits end. I'm going to take a break, eat, and meditate cause I've planned 10 hours today. I'm not hurting financially and thank god, so if tonight and tomorrow are a wash I'll just be upset that it seemed a waste of time not that I have anxiety over paying bills. Ladies, I'm gonna keep a positive frame of mind for these next five hours, but if you're also having a shit day on SM just know you're not alone.
Miss_ShaSha
02-01-2019, 04:16 PM
Heyy I wanted to say for anyone reading this keep your head up and i would like to offer a alternative view. First I would like to say I’m sorry for anyone who is feeling horrible, not making enough money to pay their bills and feel like this industry is not for them.
If you want to change your job by all means change jobs but I would like to say this to possibly cheer you up “could you imagine if camming and or phone sex and other types of sex work did not exist? What if this was the 1940s and you was in the same situation bills to pay and possibly kids to feed? What would you do?
Im not saying your pain, suffering, and anixety isnt real or that it doesnt matter, but even if you are barely making money lets all be happy we live in a time to make money from our homes LEAGALLY. Also i would like to say to everyone here believe it or not you are doing a great job financially. You probably thinking no im not, i can barely afford my bills, i have no savings, i have no money for vacations. So let me tell you soemthing.
My first year of as a sex work ended and lets just say im barely above the poverty line ( strictly pso work). When i realized how much i made i felt like shit! I felt unaccomplished and worthless especially since i have a four year degree i really thought about suicide. Imreally honest to god did.
Until i was reading an article how majority of americans are not as financially well as we think we are. They had a income calculator in the article i put in my information in. You know what,Me, making the money i did this year, having a bachelors and being a black female i am financially better than 25% of all americans. Thats mind blowing for me because i felt like scum on the bottom of a barrel lower than the lowest 1%.
See we all compare ourselves to the high earners the people that make 100k plus a year, even millionaire & billionaire dollar earners. But here’s the thing if you make more than 60k your in the top percent of earner across the country.not the top 1% but you are considered a high earner.
Now it might not feel like your a high earner based on where you live because of the inflation of living costs in some states like new york and California. But use these two calculators and you will see where you really stand financially compared to people in your country and WORLDWIDE. Remember its always great to strive for more and having dreams and ambitions, theres is nothing wrong with wanted more out of your life BUT ont let unrealistic dreams prevent you from realizing how lucky you are. :). Remember that atleast 100 people would be willing to trade lives with you.
1) http://graphics.wsj.com/what-percent/
2) http://www.globalrichlist.com
Im not affliated with the donation group of the second income calculator i just like how it breaks ot down and bring in to perspective.
When i was suicidal and wanted to end my life because of my financials i found this and relaize how lucky i am. I still want more money! Belive me i do. Lol. But at the end of the day i remind myself how lucky i am in my life even when i dont feel lucky and i hope you do as well.[/QUOTE]
HOLY SHIT...according to that calculator I was in the 55%. You know, I make more money now...by about $600 doing this than I made full time Spinning instruction. I have an advanced Spinning instructor certification plus 12 additional certs in everything from exercise physiology and breathing techniques to mental training and heart rate guidelines. I also have a BFA. Seriously, I'm far less stressed even when the weeks are bad, like this and last week, plus my body is healthier.
Yeah, there's times where camming does suck on a daily scale, but certainly not on a monthly scale. Thanks for the perspective girl!!!
magicgembliss
02-01-2019, 05:23 PM
i am financially better than 25% of all americans. Thats mind blowing for me because i felt like scum on the bottom of a barrel lower than the lowest 1%.
sorry you felt like this! *hugs*
How one is doing financially depends so much on what your local cost of living is, whether you have other income/inheritance to rely on, spending habits, medical needs, etc - and no one is perfect! Being a hard worker and a creative problem-solver is the only thing you can do in the end.
The median per capita income in the US in 2017 was $31,786.
The mean income per capita was $48,150.
Meaning, the average (mean) is higher per person due to some people making A LOT, yet MOST (the mean) are making only ~$32K. That's not household income but per individual.
https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-average-income-in-usa-family-household-history-3306189
SuperPookie
02-01-2019, 05:47 PM
9 hours and one 6 minute show on SM and one 2 minute call on TTM. I'm trying to stay on but this is really grinding me down.
Miss_ShaSha
02-01-2019, 06:22 PM
9 hours and one 6 minute show on SM and one 2 minute call on TTM. I'm trying to stay on but this is really grinding me down.
Girl, I ended Friday logging 7 hours & a grand total of $26...NEVER earned that little in 7 hours. I gave up as my back is killing me. I usually log 8 hr days & planned 10 today, but decent earning keeps me hopeful & out of pain. Girl, you are killin that hour goal. Way to fuckin go!
ravenskyy
02-01-2019, 06:33 PM
Can't dance because of the awful weather in the Midwest. Stuck camming for the next week. Need to make $1000 in 5 days and I made a whole $20 on mfc. Fantastic.
magicgembliss
02-01-2019, 08:09 PM
i notice a lot of back issues here- I have a little scoliosis myself and suffer back pain from sitting. That was one of the reasons I had to stop wotking administrative jobs.
It helps to do exercises /weights that strengthen your upper back and neck, it also helps to do a lot of dancing/standing/stripping rather than sitting down, for me at least.
magicgembliss
02-01-2019, 11:13 PM
i swear, not a single click all night on NF and MFC has like nooo submissive members anymore! Ugh! When is this slow period going to end?
NotANewGyal
02-02-2019, 12:12 AM
I definitely think the Superbowl is a huge reason why it's dead.
anonymous camgirl
02-02-2019, 12:42 AM
Because I had an issue replying to any of you with quotes. I want you to realize one thing. All of you have pretty much based working in this industry upon money alone and nothing else.. I know right? You can get blinded and all this stupid things you let go , you slough off because the pay is so good.. And even through the bad times you still stay waiting for the next pay off.. Really NONE of you mentioned any other reason you love camming and think it is still the best job other than for the money though.. I to was always blinded by the money looking the other way. But who has worked in this industry for almost 2 decades.. totally different when you get there, There are a very few select camgirls I know who still think camming is the bees knees after 16 + years.. but if you are here for 2 yrs.. lol.. I was blinded for 14 yrs!
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 01:03 AM
I definitely think the Superbowl is a huge reason why it's dead.
i didn't even know the superbowl was this time of year...that's how passionate about watching sports i am...lol
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 01:07 AM
But who has worked in this industry for almost 2 decades.. totally different when you get there, There are a very few select camgirls I know who still think camming is the bees knees after 16 + years.. but if you are here for 2 yrs.. lol.. I was blinded for 14 yrs!
Don't most people evolve past or get bored of a career after 14 years?
I love camming because it's physical (I hate sitting in a cubicle for fucking all day), creative and get to dominate men and pleasure myself.
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 02:43 AM
uugghhg the worst "subs" are coming out the woodwork to just ask more and more. some guy wants me to join a mistress group call for my usual rate, wtf? I told him he can pay double because I work alone- and just got SUPER pushy about it- so I told him he was definitely not a sub and blokked him lol. What worms...
queenelayliah
02-02-2019, 05:57 AM
Really NONE of you mentioned any other reason you love camming and think it is still the best job other than for the money though..
Well the money part for me isn't there. I'm not making great fucking money I haven't made anywhere near as much money as you do or did., I'm actually making the same amount from when I was working 40 hours a week at an office job for $11 an hour. I can't speak for anyone else but I can understand your thinking. Shit, I would be looking for a career change after 14 years as well. I remember in an earlier post how you mentioned you feel like you sold your body, reputation, dignity, you feel isolated and other things. I'm sorry, you feel like that, no career should make a person feel like that.
First, I would like to say I have ALWAYS been a weird person and never could think the same as everyone else. I think it has to do with my race, my gender, and my overall life experience. Of why I feel like this.
FOR ME:
1) SOLD MY BODY: I have never felt like I sold my body. As a young female growing up in America I have ALWAYS felt objectified and sub concisely told my value lies in my beauty and my sexual appeal. As a self-proclaimed ugly, very ugly woman I got that same message and the message of “oh since your ugly, your worthless”. I figured if I'm going to be objected to the opinions of the opposite sex and have my value as a PERSON place on my sex appeal I might as well make some money from it. Because it going to happen till the die I die and even after I die.
2) REPUTATION: considering people make assumptions about me just based on certain bodily features of mine. My reputation has always been tainted and I have never cared what someone thought of me. I HAD to learn not to care because if I didn't I would be able to survive in this world in the body that I came in. Because believe I have stories to tell of how people view me because of my body SHAPE AND COLOR. I'm, not a murder, I'm not a rapist, I'm not a thief, a drug lord or a child rapist/ abuser. So based on that I feel like I have a great reputation. And if some pompous individual wants to say I have a bad reputation they can go fuck themselves. They more than likely have many skeletons in the closet that they are hiding.
3) DIGNITY: the definition of dignity is “the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect”. I don't know about you but I know for DAMN SURE I am worthy of HONOR and RESPECT. Anyone who can't give it to me because I talk dirty in the phone and masturbate on camera. Can go shove a hot iron rod up their ass and if anybody dares try to say to me, to my face, that I don't have dignity. I will knock their teeth so far down their throat they will need to shove a toothbrush up their ass to brush them. I have NEVER and WILL NEVER struggle with dignity because I know my worth.
4) ISOLATION: for me personally my entire life I have always feel like a lone individual sitting onan island while everyone else is on another island have the time of their lives. But I understand when you mention isolation associated with camming. You meant you can't get out as much or have the social life you want. Again for ME: I have never and will never be a social butterfly. Truthfully I don't like leaving the house because it costs money to do anything and I am slowly getting away from the effects of capitalism. I hate parties, I hate drinking, I hate smoking. I have never liked fucking or having sex because guys my age don't fuck well plus I'm paranoid about STDs and I'm quite frankly their not many people who want to have genuine affectionate sex with me. I mean there will always be the guys who willing to fuck anything but I don't want them.
The reasons why I like camming:
1) I have a job where i can work around my anxiety and depression episodes.
2) camming allows me to talk to people when before because of my anxiety and overall shyness. I could go for weeks without speaking to a single human being. So camming forces me to keep interacting with my fellow humans.
3) I have a job that i can do despite my back issues because sitting in a office chair for any amount of time locked my back and my right leg up so i could barely walk to my car at the end of the day. The pain was so excruciating i wanted to cut my leg off.
4) I get to meet people that appreciate my body and tell me im pretty & they mean it and for me thats a big deal. I wasnt told im beautiful in a sexually attractive way until i was 21, im 26. Lol. I know what your thinking wells their more guys that call you ugly and fat then beautiful when it comes to camming. And your right but i dealt with those remarks since i was a child. To me nothing has changed except now i can finally hear the ones that dont think the same as a majority of people lol.
5) I truly get sexual pleasure for my work. Considering what turns me, i really like my job and for the majority of my work i am truly turned on about 75% of the time. Considering the fact i was in the bdsm lifestyle since i was 15/16 some of these request dont bother. Truthfully the only thing that bothers me is the pedos, scat lovers and snuff lovers. Everything else has never shocked me because i knew about it before i started sex work.
6) sex work has truly shown me the ugliness of our(human society) about sex and females. Lol like there are so many people who would be okay with me talking dirty on the phone or masturbating on camera as long as im NOT making money from it. Oh its great that I a woman fuck but I cant fuck for money. To some people as a woman, i should show how much i love sex but i shouldnt also withhold sex. But if i have to much sex im a whore, a slut, im dirty but if i dont have sex at all something is wrong with me, im frigid or im a tease. Lol sexuality for us women is all about giving up our bodies and pleasuring others with it but not being allowed to enjoy the pleasures of our own bodies.
That makes me want to do what I want with my body all the more now. At 16 I learned to drop the shackles of sexual oppression that society placed on my GLORIOUS vagina, my libido, and my mind.
This is why I like camming. Plus I like being able to pay my bills as well.
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 10:03 AM
3) I have a job that i can do despite my back issues because sitting in a office chair for any amount of time locked my back and my right leg up so i could barely walk to my car at the end of the day. The pain was so excruciating i wanted to cut my leg off.
In this vein I'd like to leave this here https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=prolonged+sitting+health+effects&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart
Most "respectable" jobs as I was taught, actually, LITERALLY kill you earlier and make you unhealthy while you live. No wonder I was miserable doing them. Fuck that.
I've consistently made *over* three times what I make at my previous jobs, and that's from doing only what *I* feel comfortable and interested in doing. Of course the way things are going lately, I'm only able to make about what I used to make-and that's scary...but I'm sure it will come back....especially as I utilize new cam sites....
Glamourmilf
02-02-2019, 10:07 AM
So many great viewpoints here about camming, which is why I love this forum.
I very seldom post in here, because I don't usually have bad days on cam.
But, here I am.
This ENTIRE week has been abysmal!
Something is just not right. Tons of traffic, yet nobody is talking/buying.
Hmm.
Anyway. I've been camming for 8 straight years.
The problem I'm having with it, is that it's just not mentally stimulating enough for me.
Every day seems like the last. Same questions, same conversations, same repetitive, requested body moves.
I've always had an inquisitive mind, and this job feels like I'm being dumbed down. Like I'm losing brain cells, or something. Don't know if anyone else can relate.:-\
I too have back problems, and other health issues that prevents me from seaking out other jobs.
This job feels like the movie Ground Hog Day.
Oh, and while I'm here, Happy Ground Hog's Day.:D
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NotANewGyal
02-02-2019, 10:13 AM
Well the money part for me isn't there. I'm not making great fucking money I haven't made anywhere near as much money as you do or did., I'm actually making the same amount from when I was working 40 hours a week at an office job for $11 an hour. I can't speak for anyone else but I can understand your thinking. Shit, I would be looking for a career change after 14 years as well. I remember in an earlier post how you mentioned you feel like you sold your body, reputation, dignity, you feel isolated and other things. I'm sorry, you feel like that, no career should make a person feel like that.
First, I would like to say I have ALWAYS been a weird person and never could think the same as everyone else. I think it has to do with my race, my gender, and my overall life experience. Of why I feel like this.
FOR ME:
1) SOLD MY BODY: I have never felt like I sold my body. As a young female growing up in America I have ALWAYS felt objectified and sub concisely told my value lies in my beauty and my sexual appeal. As a self-proclaimed ugly, very ugly woman I got that same message and the message of “oh since your ugly, your worthless”. I figured if I'm going to be objected to the opinions of the opposite sex and have my value as a PERSON place on my sex appeal I might as well make some money from it. Because it going to happen till the die I die and even after I die.
2) REPUTATION: considering people make assumptions about me just based on certain bodily features of mine. My reputation has always been tainted and I have never cared what someone thought of me. I HAD to learn not to care because if I didn't I would be able to survive in this world in the body that I came in. Because believe I have stories to tell of how people view me because of my body SHAPE AND COLOR. I'm, not a murder, I'm not a rapist, I'm not a thief, a drug lord or a child rapist/ abuser. So based on that I feel like I have a great reputation. And if some pompous individual wants to say I have a bad reputation they can go fuck themselves. They more than likely have many skeletons in the closet that they are hiding.
3) DIGNITY: the definition of dignity is “the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect”. I don't know about you but I know for DAMN SURE I am worthy of HONOR and RESPECT. Anyone who can't give it to me because I talk dirty in the phone and masturbate on camera. Can go shove a hot iron rod up their ass and if anybody dares try to say to me, to my face, that I don't have dignity. I will knock their teeth so far down their throat they will need to shove a toothbrush up their ass to brush them. I have NEVER and WILL NEVER struggle with dignity because I know my worth.
4) ISOLATION: for me personally my entire life I have always feel like a lone individual sitting onan island while everyone else is on another island have the time of their lives. But I understand when you mention isolation associated with camming. You meant you can't get out as much or have the social life you want. Again for ME: I have never and will never be a social butterfly. Truthfully I don't like leaving the house because it costs money to do anything and I am slowly getting away from the effects of capitalism. I hate parties, I hate drinking, I hate smoking. I have never liked fucking or having sex because guys my age don't fuck well plus I'm paranoid about STDs and I'm quite frankly their not many people who want to have genuine affectionate sex with me. I mean there will always be the guys who willing to fuck anything but I don't want them.
The reasons why I like camming:
1) I have a job where i can work around my anxiety and depression episodes.
2) camming allows me to talk to people when before because of my anxiety and overall shyness. I could go for weeks without speaking to a single human being. So camming forces me to keep interacting with my fellow humans.
3) I have a job that i can do despite my back issues because sitting in a office chair for any amount of time locked my back and my right leg up so i could barely walk to my car at the end of the day. The pain was so excruciating i wanted to cut my leg off.
4) I get to meet people that appreciate my body and tell me im pretty & they mean it and for me thats a big deal. I wasnt told im beautiful in a sexually attractive way until i was 21, im 26. Lol. I know what your thinking wells their more guys that call you ugly and fat then beautiful when it comes to camming. And your right but i dealt with those remarks since i was a child. To me nothing has changed except now i can finally hear the ones that dont think the same as a majority of people lol.
5) I truly get sexual pleasure for my work. Considering what turns me, i really like my job and for the majority of my work i am truly turned on about 75% of the time. Considering the fact i was in the bdsm lifestyle since i was 15/16 some of these request dont bother. Truthfully the only thing that bothers me is the pedos, scat lovers and snuff lovers. Everything else has never shocked me because i knew about it before i started sex work.
6) sex work has truly shown me the ugliness of our(human society) about sex and females. Lol like there are so many people who would be okay with me talking dirty on the phone or masturbating on camera as long as im NOT making money from it. Oh its great that I a woman fuck but I cant fuck for money. To some people as a woman, i should show how much i love sex but i shouldnt also withhold sex. But if i have to much sex im a whore, a slut, im dirty but if i dont have sex at all something is wrong with me, im frigid or im a tease. Lol sexuality for us women is all about giving up our bodies and pleasuring others with it but not being allowed to enjoy the pleasures of our own bodies.
That makes me want to do what I want with my body all the more now. At 16 I learned to drop the shackles of sexual oppression that society placed on my GLORIOUS vagina, my libido, and my mind.
This is why I like camming. Plus I like being able to pay my bills as well.
Thanks for writing this! I totally agree!
anonymous camgirl
02-02-2019, 10:41 AM
Well the money part for me isn't there. I'm not making great fucking money I haven't made anywhere near as much money as you do or did., I'm actually making the same amount from when I was working 40 hours a week at an office job for $11 an hour. I can't speak for anyone else but I can understand your thinking. Shit, I would be looking for a career change after 14 years as well. I remember in an earlier post how you mentioned you feel like you sold your body, reputation, dignity, you feel isolated and other things. I'm sorry, you feel like that, no career should make a person feel like that.
First, I would like to say I have ALWAYS been a weird person and never could think the same as everyone else. I think it has to do with my race, my gender, and my overall life experience. Of why I feel like this.
FOR ME:
1) SOLD MY BODY: I have never felt like I sold my body. As a young female growing up in America I have ALWAYS felt objectified and sub concisely told my value lies in my beauty and my sexual appeal. As a self-proclaimed ugly, very ugly woman I got that same message and the message of “oh since your ugly, your worthless”. I figured if I'm going to be objected to the opinions of the opposite sex and have my value as a PERSON place on my sex appeal I might as well make some money from it. Because it going to happen till the die I die and even after I die.
2) REPUTATION: considering people make assumptions about me just based on certain bodily features of mine. My reputation has always been tainted and I have never cared what someone thought of me. I HAD to learn not to care because if I didn't I would be able to survive in this world in the body that I came in. Because believe I have stories to tell of how people view me because of my body SHAPE AND COLOR. I'm, not a murder, I'm not a rapist, I'm not a thief, a drug lord or a child rapist/ abuser. So based on that I feel like I have a great reputation. And if some pompous individual wants to say I have a bad reputation they can go fuck themselves. They more than likely have many skeletons in the closet that they are hiding.
3) DIGNITY: the definition of dignity is “the state or quality of being worthy of honor or respect”. I don't know about you but I know for DAMN SURE I am worthy of HONOR and RESPECT. Anyone who can't give it to me because I talk dirty in the phone and masturbate on camera. Can go shove a hot iron rod up their ass and if anybody dares try to say to me, to my face, that I don't have dignity. I will knock their teeth so far down their throat they will need to shove a toothbrush up their ass to brush them. I have NEVER and WILL NEVER struggle with dignity because I know my worth.
4) ISOLATION: for me personally my entire life I have always feel like a lone individual sitting onan island while everyone else is on another island have the time of their lives. But I understand when you mention isolation associated with camming. You meant you can't get out as much or have the social life you want. Again for ME: I have never and will never be a social butterfly. Truthfully I don't like leaving the house because it costs money to do anything and I am slowly getting away from the effects of capitalism. I hate parties, I hate drinking, I hate smoking. I have never liked fucking or having sex because guys my age don't fuck well plus I'm paranoid about STDs and I'm quite frankly their not many people who want to have genuine affectionate sex with me. I mean there will always be the guys who willing to fuck anything but I don't want them.
The reasons why I like camming:
1) I have a job where i can work around my anxiety and depression episodes.
2) camming allows me to talk to people when before because of my anxiety and overall shyness. I could go for weeks without speaking to a single human being. So camming forces me to keep interacting with my fellow humans.
3) I have a job that i can do despite my back issues because sitting in a office chair for any amount of time locked my back and my right leg up so i could barely walk to my car at the end of the day. The pain was so excruciating i wanted to cut my leg off.
4) I get to meet people that appreciate my body and tell me im pretty & they mean it and for me thats a big deal. I wasnt told im beautiful in a sexually attractive way until i was 21, im 26. Lol. I know what your thinking wells their more guys that call you ugly and fat then beautiful when it comes to camming. And your right but i dealt with those remarks since i was a child. To me nothing has changed except now i can finally hear the ones that dont think the same as a majority of people lol.
5) I truly get sexual pleasure for my work. Considering what turns me, i really like my job and for the majority of my work i am truly turned on about 75% of the time. Considering the fact i was in the bdsm lifestyle since i was 15/16 some of these request dont bother. Truthfully the only thing that bothers me is the pedos, scat lovers and snuff lovers. Everything else has never shocked me because i knew about it before i started sex work.
6) sex work has truly shown me the ugliness of our(human society) about sex and females. Lol like there are so many people who would be okay with me talking dirty on the phone or masturbating on camera as long as im NOT making money from it. Oh its great that I a woman fuck but I cant fuck for money. To some people as a woman, i should show how much i love sex but i shouldnt also withhold sex. But if i have to much sex im a whore, a slut, im dirty but if i dont have sex at all something is wrong with me, im frigid or im a tease. Lol sexuality for us women is all about giving up our bodies and pleasuring others with it but not being allowed to enjoy the pleasures of our own bodies.
That makes me want to do what I want with my body all the more now. At 16 I learned to drop the shackles of sexual oppression that society placed on my GLORIOUS vagina, my libido, and my mind.
This is why I like camming. Plus I like being able to pay my bills as well.
Thanks for your well thought out viewpoint and perspective, I appreciate it and I am sure the other ladies do also.
I think you might not have understood what I meant by selling your body.. I meant getting breast implants just for this industry , ( even though you probably wouldn't have) or bleaching your hair all the time because it makes you the most money even though you want to dye it something else but afraid to for fear of financial back lash.. just things like that.. I am 46 BTW .. so my perspective is most on being old and when you get older you get more illness and more disease which makes things a lot more difficult in this business.
anonymous camgirl
02-02-2019, 10:43 AM
So many great viewpoints here about camming, which is why I love this forum.
I very seldom post in here, because I don't usually have bad days on cam.
But, here I am.
This ENTIRE week has been abysmal!
Something is just not right. Tons of traffic, yet nobody is talking/buying.
Hmm.
Anyway. I've been camming for 8 straight years.
The problem I'm having with it, is that it's just not mentally stimulating enough for me.
Every day seems like the last. Same questions, same conversations, same repetitive, requested body moves.
I've always had an inquisitive mind, and this job feels like I'm being dumbed down. Like I'm losing brain cells, or something. Don't know if anyone else can relate.:-\
I too have back problems, and other health issues that prevents me from seaking out other jobs.
This job feels like the movie Ground Hog Day.
Oh, and while I'm here, Happy Ground Hog's Day.:D
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I feel the same way.. the whole time I have been camming the challenge was always how much money I can make today?? Now its always questionable.. I have noticed a huge drop in fetishes that I used to do also.. Which makes things super boring.. I enjoyed customers who dressed up in onesie pajamas or guys wanting makeup tips.. Now it's just a bunch of young guys for me with no money and wanting me to be there mommy...LOL... yawn/boring!
anonymous camgirl
02-02-2019, 10:48 AM
Don't most people evolve past or get bored of a career after 14 years?
I love camming because it's physical (I hate sitting in a cubicle for fucking all day), creative and get to dominate men and pleasure myself.
MOST people do but not ALL people.. And sometimes you don't have any interest in other things.. I have interest in other things but still waiting to get the money together to do those other things.. NEVER interested in some job.. yucky!...lol I will tell you them years flew by like a blink of the eye.. One day you realize OMG I have been doing this so long and nothing else without even noticing.. You just get busy with your children and living life or not living life.. it goes fast.. So now I am like WTF.. what now? sick of this..lol and the money is not as great as it used to be these days... so yea.. I am wanting to bounce so hard! And I am almost 50.. to sit around and listening to all these immature asshats gets real old.. you want adult mature conversations more often than not.
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 10:51 AM
Something is just not right. Tons of traffic, yet nobody is talking/buying.
I don't even get the traffic lately(but i still used to get by with very low traffic and convert well from the few ppl who would come by)!! But I get the same weird deadness, no one is being talkative the way they usually are. And when they do they are much more than usual entitled and bored by the usual things, so I get people asking for group domme shows, elaborate costumes, scat, pee, incest roleplays etc more than normal. Like there are no "normal" compulsive sex addicts anymore lol, they've gotten bored by everything. The traffic must be coming from extreme sites or most of the cam buyers have just overstimulated themselves to the point of exhaustion and nothing excites them anymore except the most extreme stuff- which is all against TOS anyway...
I've been asking the guys on MFC and they're all like "everything's good with me, everything's fine, there are loads of girls and no one else is complaining" but then I ask them when the last time they tipped was and they're all like uuuuuuuuhuhh "I tipped a girl last week" or "I haven't felt the need to lately" after they've been online every day this week LOLOLOL Hilarious, the douchebaggery is staggering. Obviously something is up, I feel like I'm getting a lot of 4chan/incel type mentality which of course, is the last thing anyone on earth ever wants ( lol which is why they're incels). No social skills, no reciprocity or generosity, just greed, manipulative and infantile almost catatonic behavior, take take take like stupid little manbabies- this wasn't my experience just months ago.
I really want to know at this point who MFC is targeting to lately, where my traffic is coming from, or if there are some really quantifiable things I'm doing wrong because I'm doing mostly the same things as before.
I'm considering doing my own domme website or just signing with only indie.
Just stuff I'm thinking about.
I also find that often it's not mentally stimulating enough as well, except that I can always have more time to read Nietsche and be all intellectual when I have the $$ for the extra time. And of course marketing, making PTVs etc can keep me busy and be fun...
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 11:19 AM
.. I enjoyed customers who dressed up in onesie pajamas or guys wanting makeup tips.. Now it's just a bunch of young guys for me with no money and wanting me to be there mommy...LOL... yawn/boring!
so, SO much this. No one wants these "customers" (they have very little $$)
Glamourmilf
02-02-2019, 11:22 AM
I feel the same way.. the whole time I have been camming the challenge was always how much money I can make today?? Now its always questionable.. I have noticed a huge drop in fetishes that I used to do also.. Which makes things super boring.. I enjoyed customers who dressed up in onesie pajamas or guys wanting makeup tips.. Now it's just a bunch of young guys for me with no money and wanting me to be there mommy...LOL... yawn/boring!
MOST people do but not ALL people.. And sometimes you don't have any interest in other things.. I have interest in other things but still waiting to get the money together to do those other things.. NEVER interested in some job.. yucky!...lol I will tell you them years flew by like a blink of the eye.. One day you realize OMG I have been doing this so long and nothing else without even noticing.. You just get busy with your children and living life or not living life.. it goes fast.. So now I am like WTF.. what now? sick of this..lol and the money is not as great as it used to be these days... so yea.. I am wanting to bounce so hard! And I am almost 50.. to sit around and listening to all these immature asshats gets real old.. you want adult mature conversations more often than not.
Exactly. I think we have the same demographics. 20 somethings who really want to fuck their Mommy, and are broke.
I really miss the fetish customers which seem to be dwindling. Now THEY were interesting, and such a hoot.
I don't even get the traffic lately(but i still used to get by with very low traffic and convert well from the few ppl who would come by)!! But I get the same weird deadness, no one is being talkative the way they usually are. And when they do they are much more than usual entitled and bored by the usual things, so I get people asking for group domme shows, elaborate costumes, scat, pee, incest roleplays etc more than normal. Like there are no "normal" compulsive sex addicts anymore lol, they've gotten bored by everything. The traffic must be coming from extreme sites or most of the cam buyers have just overstimulated themselves to the point of exhaustion and nothing excites them anymore except the most extreme stuff- which is all against TOS anyway...
I've been asking the guys on MFC and they're all like "everything's good with me, everything's fine, there are loads of girls and no one else is complaining" but then I ask them when the last time they tipped was and they're all like uuuuuuuuhuhh "I tipped a girl last week" or "I haven't felt the need to lately" after they've been online every day this week LOLOLOL Hilarious, the douchebaggery is staggering. Obviously something is up, I feel like I'm getting a lot of 4chan/incel type mentality which of course, is the last thing anyone on earth ever wants ( lol which is why they're incels). No social skills, no reciprocity or generosity, just greed, manipulative and infantile almost catatonic behavior, take take take like stupid little manbabies- this wasn't my experience just months ago.
I really want to know at this point who MFC is targeting to lately, where my traffic is coming from, or if there are some really quantifiable things I'm doing wrong because I'm doing mostly the same things as before.
I'm considering doing my own domme website or just signing with only indie.
Just stuff I'm thinking about.
I also find that often it's not mentally stimulating enough as well, except that I can always have more time to read Nietsche and be all intellectual when I have the $$ for the extra time. And of course marketing, making PTVs etc can keep me busy and be fun...
I had to explain to a repeat 21 year old customer that he can't keep coming into my room and not tipping. That this is a commission job, and I don't do it for fun. He apologized and said he didn't know that. He then tipped me what he could. I got to thinking, that it would be great if when someone signs up for a site, that they get a paragraph or two explaining this.
I'm so hungry for stimulating conversation, that I'm going to a library book sale after cam. And a writing workshop next week. :teacher::writing:
Sadly, all the people I meet IRL only want to talk about sex, ( they don't know I cam), and it's so boring I could die!
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 11:43 AM
Exactly. I think we have the same demographics. 20 somethings who really want to fuck their Mommy, and are broke.
I really miss the fetish customers which seem to be dwindling. Now THEY were interesting, and such a hoot.
YES!
I had to explain to a repeat 21 year old customer that he can't keep coming into my room and not tipping. That this is a commission job, and I don't do it for fun. He apologized and said he didn't know that.
YES YES YES! I haven't been on Streamate in months so I dont know, but WTHEEEELLL is MFC doing that so many people feel entitled to not tip? And why do so many of the guys I talk to lately get upset when I ask for tips at the point where clearly they can see there is little traffic in the room and no one is tipping? It seems the work the other way, which I understand- the "social value" thing and competition thing and everything. But it's SUPER weird that the actual MAJORITY of themget pissed off rather than are understanding about it when I do explain why I ask for tips (has always pissed me off about MFC). I'm not doing a free cumshow for you, brainless dicks. But yeah too many on MFC are entitled to free everything and are *incredibly* resistant to the concept of tipping or being called on not tipping. I always say hi and interact with every name that enters and wait a bit, so it's not like I ask them for tokens just to enter my room and see my boobs or anything. But the majority are more than cheap, they are fucking actually RESISTANT TO and UPSET at the concept of tipping when you explain it. I'd think that's a European thing but most of them turn out to be American. Also, banning.
Oh, and try explaining that you have to make rent in time or something and "it''s not for fun" rather than their little fantasy of "it's just all masturbation all the time for free" and see how they react. It's a huge turn off so they just leave- so I'm trying to avoid that now and just have fun and be relaxed and sexual. These are the most unrealistic human beings on the planet lol, and it is the ONLY thing that seems to get them to respond, and even then they don't tip much lately. Except subs don't mind as much- i'm talking specifically about the traffic i'm receiving lately on mfc
I'll try using the word "commission only" and explaining that we don't get paid a base salary or anything like that later. Some may not realize that...but i worry they just dont care. It's possible mfc is getting a ton of traffic from free downloading sites or something...
XSelinex
02-02-2019, 11:49 AM
Yes no one ask about fetishes for ages,most of them say to me hairy? instead hi and others call me Mommy or ask is Daddy in?May I fuck you instead him?
And all this in free chat with log off,they even don't wait for my answer on this shit.
I had good and long boobs fetishes shows with generous customers who tipped for their requests even in exc and sent tips after pvts, now members so rude and extremely cheap,thats exhausting me,they need naked tits right now and right there and get mad of teasing or slowly undressing,not so long ago I was spoiled for long teasing with good fits and members asked me to tease but not show it fast,they loved slowly.
I really miss for submissive men or long conversations in pvt,or just for slow striptease,members attitude now as they had a last dollar and get mad on me that spent their last coins at me and havent what to eat now.
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 11:57 AM
Yes no one ask about fetishes for ages,most of them say to me hairy? instead hi and others call me Mommy or ask is Daddy in?May I fuck you instead him?
omgomgomg so much this- they are so fucking obsessed with pubic hair and their stupid moms i don't even answer those questions anymore.
Call me when you're ready to sub for me, you little stupid bitches! I'm done with the bullshit for pennies. Done done done. I signed with chaturbate this morning, I'm going to run all four sites at once now on my boyfriend's Mac and say "fuck you" to everyone in my charming way and just wait for the subs and tips to roll in lol- think my new computer can handle it.
Panthera
02-02-2019, 03:08 PM
Dunno why I cant reply with quote, but this was from Glamourmilf's post:
"The problem I'm having with it, is that it's just not mentally stimulating enough for me.
Every day seems like the last. Same questions, same conversations, same repetitive, requested body moves.
I've always had an inquisitive mind, and this job feels like I'm being dumbed down. Like I'm losing brain cells, or something. Don't know if anyone else can relate.:-\
I too have back problems, and other health issues that prevents me from seaking out other jobs."
Exactly the same for me!! I cannot for the life of me get creative in any way in this job because it's all just so fuckin BORING, these guys are so boring, nothing turns my brain on anymore, AT ALL. I used to like doing domination sessions, but it just got old in that regards too, and the subs are not what they used to be anymore :( I have been doing this for the last 17 years, but in the last 10 years it was all and only for the money. RIP to countless brain cells :(
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 07:23 PM
the subs are not what they used to be anymore :( I have been doing this for the last 17 years, but in the last 10 years it was all and only for the money. RIP to countless brain cells :(
Many of the subs I have tell me that they're dodging their wives and girlflriends and family, and feel guilty about doing what they do with us. They freely offer this information so I have a feeling at some point they slow down their sub activities or find a way around it with a more private way or at a certain time (no "NF services or Paypal charges on their card etc), just limiting it to business trips to see a domme etc. I dunno it's just a theory but if so many are doing this 'on the DL' so to speak it makes sense that they will periodically disappear from the bdsm/cam world altogether. It's easy to chalk it up to some flaw that *I* have but in reality even after I lost clients I would be able to replace them, and the last few months I've just been losing them without finding new "blood", and noticing that they seem to require more and more of a high, more from their dommes in very un-sub ways("can you dress up for me?" "join this group show!"= not submissive at all). Even my MFC friends list since two years ago is entirely gone: all but 4-5 of the 30-40 people on there never show up online EVER, I used to chat nicely often with guys who would only tip like $5 a day but not a single response to my emails over the past severalmonths or so. I really miss those good subs that are repeat customers!!
I really hope it IS just the time of the year and they slowly come back, I can see from this thread it's not just me!!
magicgembliss
02-02-2019, 09:07 PM
wow a lot of the new members are online on mfc, haven't had this many of my friend list online at the same time in a long time!! I'm gonna try 4 sites for just a few minutes to test how SM and CB are doing for me, hope I still got the SM mojo and CB works well for me!! wish me luck!
upddate: yeah my computer can't even handle two cam sites without lagging like crazy, i'm going to have to change to the Mac tomorrow, and i hate Macs :/ This pu tme behind by like an hour because I lost all my tabs I was working on..
Glamourmilf
02-03-2019, 08:34 AM
I just wanted to add, that this wanting to fuck Mommy bullshit. It's not just on cam.
I was escorting for a brief period a couple of years ago.
I only saw a handful of guys.
And 3 of them wanted to do that Roleplay.
I didn't offer it. None of them knew I cammed.
One guy was in his 30's. The others were in their 60 's.
The only thing I could figure out, was that they watch this kind of porn.:-\
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't this one of the top watched category on porn sites?
I know that when I ask cam customers how they found the cam site, a lot say they were funneled in through Porn Hub.
Well, all I have to say, is if that's the case, bring it on.
I'm not going to go broke waiting for my fetish customers to return.
Bring on the momma's boys.
Damn it!
Miss_ShaSha
02-03-2019, 10:25 AM
I just wanted to add, that this wanting to fuck Mommy bullshit. It's not just on cam.
I was escorting for a brief period a couple of years ago.
I only saw a handful of guys.
And 3 of them wanted to do that Roleplay.
I didn't offer it. None of them knew I cammed.
One guy was in his 30's. The others were in their 60 's.
The only thing I could figure out, was that they watch this kind of porn.:-\
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't this one of the top watched category on porn sites?
I know that when I ask cam customers how they found the cam site, a lot say they were funneled in through Porn Hub.
Well, all I have to say, is if that's the case, bring it on.
I'm not going to go broke waiting for my fetish customers to return.
Bring on the momma's boys.
Damn it!
I don't mind taboo RP like step-mom & step-son because my only true fetish is Dark Age Play where I dig Daddy & daughter. I've had this fetish since I was about 7 yrs old. I found out it was a real fetish at about a decade ago on Fetlife. Legit, mommy/son is welcome for me LOL. I'm like "oh, you wanna fuck mommy?" ha "OK, you do what mommy wants then!"
Bananabunny
02-03-2019, 04:04 PM
I forgot that tonight is superbowl, now I'm siting all alone here in my chatroom with my glam make up and some of my regulars telling me they are going to watch it tonight aka. not gonna tip me :) FML
magicgembliss
02-03-2019, 04:34 PM
And 3 of them wanted to do that Roleplay.
.....
The only thing I could figure out, was that they watch this kind of porn.:-\
I think, and correct me if I'm wrong. But, isn't this one of the top watched category on porn sites?
alternate explanation: psychology. the types of guys to seek escorts and watch the most porn, also have issues with their mothers.
this seems perfectly logical to me...
pippapippa
02-04-2019, 12:51 AM
Yesterday and tonight have just been pure shit for me. I did really well last week and expected Super Bowl night to be busy, but I was so wrong.
anonamiss
02-04-2019, 01:28 AM
ughhhhh tonight was exhausting. i had a few pathetically short privates where every guy was either rude and demanding AF, or he wanted to meet up. i had two guys go C2C and then ask out loud if we could hook up, or how much it would cost to meet me. it's one thing when you are just reading their text... but it's so awkward to have that conversation when they're talking and staring right back at you. i just instablocked them straight from the private show. put me in such a crap mood.
Glamourmilf
02-04-2019, 06:14 AM
alternate explanation: psychology. the types of guys to seek escorts and watch the most porn, also have issues with their mothers.
this seems perfectly logical to me...
Makes sense.
Miss_ShaSha
02-04-2019, 07:18 AM
ughhhhh tonight was exhausting. i had a few pathetically short privates where every guy was either rude and demanding AF, or he wanted to meet up. i had two guys go C2C and then ask out loud if we could hook up, or how much it would cost to meet me. it's one thing when you are just reading their text... but it's so awkward to have that conversation when they're talking and staring right back at you. i just instablocked them straight from the private show. put me in such a crap mood.
This is pissing me off on cam. I say NO! This is my main source of income! That will get me banned then how will I pay for bills?!?! I'm beyond irritated with the meet up question.
anonamiss
02-04-2019, 01:38 PM
This is pissing me off on cam. I say NO! This is my main source of income! That will get me banned then how will I pay for bills?!?! I'm beyond irritated with the meet up question.
I don't understand their logic at all... I mean, most of them never bother asking where I even live before asking to meet up. Do they just assume I'm local to them, and really believe this is a dating or escorting site? Absolute morons. They must be clicking the "hot horny babe wants to bang you 2 miles away!!!1!1" links on porn pop up ads that lead back to cam sites. Pisses me off that tube sites are even allowed to make such misleading ads about something that is totally against the rules.
Miss_ShaSha
02-04-2019, 01:59 PM
I don't understand their logic at all... I mean, most of them never bother asking where I even live before asking to meet up. Do they just assume I'm local to them, and really believe this is a dating or escorting site? Absolute morons. They must be clicking the "hot horny babe wants to bang you 2 miles away!!!1!1" links on porn pop up ads that lead back to cam sites. Pisses me off that tube sites are even allowed to make such misleading ads about something that is totally against the rules.
That just might be a good reason. I just said very sternly to a man today "no! that is against terms and I'll get banned. This is how I earn my income!" he said "sorry, understood." But seriously, it's getting heavy lately. In the last two weeks I've gotten two handfuls of guys requesting this. It's absurd.
NotANewGyal
02-04-2019, 03:02 PM
This is pissing me off on cam. I say NO! This is my main source of income! That will get me banned then how will I pay for bills?!?! I'm beyond irritated with the meet up question.
I straight up say no, and tell them this is an online job too. Like yeah I'm fun but no I'm not interested in leaving my house to meet a stranger from the internet. Tinder and the like already exist so why ask a cam girl?
Why do they even believe those adverts? They are obviously lying.
magicgembliss
02-04-2019, 04:43 PM
every guy was either rude and demanding AF, or he wanted to meet up..
this is what i've been saying. who are these freaks? why can't we have a full stream of normal, respectful dudes who aren't expeting sex work for $5? WTF- they are not going to get girls to do shit for their pathetic sociopath asses for less than decent money, cuz this is sex work. None of us are going to give it for free to strangers, no less creep, rude strangers? WTF porn are these mental freaks watching? I took a couple days off to re energize from these creeps. All my regs are MIA.
yeah and that includes meetups, ie illegal prostitution. i wouldn't even touch one of those mental fucks for a billion fucking dollars. LITERALLY. i've got inheritance for a windfall and a fiance, no fucking thank you freaks, but i hope they keep trying this just so i can hear one of them went to prisonfor for solicitation of prostitution. That would amuse me greatly.
*grins*
magicgembliss
02-04-2019, 05:22 PM
Tinder and the like already exist so why ask a cam girl?
Truth? This set of guys (not camgirl fans just these douchebags) have to pay for it. They lack the social skills, basic human decency or quality that would get women from Tinder to be interested.
Miss_ShaSha
02-04-2019, 05:25 PM
I straight up say no, and tell them this is an online job too. Like yeah I'm fun but no I'm not interested in leaving my house to meet a stranger from the internet. Tinder and the like already exist so why ask a cam girl?
Why do they even believe those adverts? They are obviously lying.
Right, we are fun & open minded, but we also have standards & care about our safety.
kamiliam
02-04-2019, 06:02 PM
I straight up say no, and tell them this is an online job too. Like yeah I'm fun but no I'm not interested in leaving my house to meet a stranger from the internet. Tinder and the like already exist so why ask a cam girl?
Why do they even believe those adverts? They are obviously lying.
Well truthfully they may have found you from Tinder. White labels create profiles and con guys into signing up for their site. Every guy I have met on tinder has had this happen to them, happens on IG too. Pisses me off even more because I am pretty much completely out with what I do and cannot mention it on either of those platforms but these scam artists can.
magicgembliss
02-04-2019, 06:47 PM
Pisses me off even more because I am pretty much completely out with what I do and cannot mention it on either of those platforms but these scam artists can.
the double standard is real.
NotANewGyal
02-04-2019, 06:53 PM
Well truthfully they may have found you from Tinder. White labels create profiles and con guys into signing up for their site. Every guy I have met on tinder has had this happen to them, happens on IG too. Pisses me off even more because I am pretty much completely out with what I do and cannot mention it on either of those platforms but these scam artists can.
We should at least be able to redirect people to out social media.
ravenskyy
02-05-2019, 05:55 AM
I haven't been able to get into any clubs and I'm not making enough money camming. I'm $600 short on my rent this month, plus I don't have the money to pay for a handful of other bills that are due. My depression and anxiety are at an all time high right now! I've been working my ass off to get into a fucking club and no one will hire me! The racism out here is real and I'm really regretting moving out here. I've never felt so hopeless in my entire fucking life!
magicgembliss
02-05-2019, 07:16 AM
I haven't been able to get into any clubs and I'm not making enough money camming. I'm $600 short on my rent this month, plus I don't have the money to pay for a handful of other bills that are due. My depression and anxiety are at an all time high right now! I've been working my ass off to get into a fucking club and no one will hire me! The racism out here is real and I'm really regretting moving out here. I've never felt so hopeless in my entire fucking life!
*hugs* hang in there, ravenskyy! I swear we should start some crowdfunding organization for camgirls who need loans/advances/charity..for real
Miss_ShaSha
02-05-2019, 07:59 AM
I haven't been able to get into any clubs and I'm not making enough money camming. I'm $600 short on my rent this month, plus I don't have the money to pay for a handful of other bills that are due. My depression and anxiety are at an all time high right now! I've been working my ass off to get into a fucking club and no one will hire me! The racism out here is real and I'm really regretting moving out here. I've never felt so hopeless in my entire fucking life!
I've been there. I was even homeless for a week. This sucks, but you'll find a way. I'm sending you good vibes & will continue to raise my vibration so I can send you healing vibes. I'm so sorry.