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LaraLee
10-06-2019, 07:33 AM
I'd been camming the last couple weeks with no makeup, sweats, slouched and just overall lazy. Tonight I had my place to myself so I decided to do myself up, get started early and have a little camathon. Five hours and nothing. Literally like 2 bucks. I didn't even have any hecklers. What a waste of makeup not to mention I'm behind on bills so this is just really disheartening. I really don't wanna sound like I'm complaining but I guess I am. I just really thought Id make a little somethin lol.

I'm still on Bonga so that's probably part of it. I can start streaming on SM but I'm thinking that its not gonna be much better from the sounds of it? Also nerves of starting on a new platform has me hesitating. I hate change lol

I'm gonna go stress eat now.
Get on SM! You will make something over there. Plus being new there will give you an advantage for a few weeks

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 07:37 AM
I am still on Bonga as a side site.. but I have had it on there, I am just going to stay in voyeur chat only for extra money... I do not want to interact with them anymore.. yesterday some guy spent a whopping 75 cents on there and pressuring me to meet him... are you fucking kidding me dude?
Back in the day men would spend thousands per month in hopes they can meet you one day.. not a lousy fucking 75 cents..


^^ Everything you guys have pretty much said lol. I've been quite literally working around the clock on Bonga and I don't even wanna mention what I've barely brought home per week; it's mortifying. I'm making the official switch tomorrow. I'm taking a mental health day because last night was terrible lol. I'm keeping in mind that camming isn't what it used to be and I'm prepared for that. I don't expect to be making a grand a week or anything but I am ready to work my shift, make a reasonable income to get me to where I need to be. In a way, I think working on Bonga first was a blessing in disguise and I'll be appreciative of what extra I'll make on SM and in (hopefully) less hours.



^^This. Last night a guy threw 3 tokens at me and requested I spread my legs and play with my pussy. Um, no. I know why it was so quiet. I just ran outta customers because I finally banned all of Bonga.

tropo
10-06-2019, 08:09 AM
This is literally my story.. except I started in 2003. The dates of decline you mentioned are the same I experienced.. I also made $1000 a week easily and my monthly income has always been $4000-$5000 also now I can barely even make $4000 usually I am under.. Totally pulling my hair out...

However my friend who only works on SM said she made over $300 yesterday on SM .. I only made $39 on there .. we were on the same row even.. at one point right next to each other.. I made $380 for the week and she made $1300. so what is going on? Some girls are still making money. Maybe we have been on cam to long and not interesting anymore... she only has cammed 5 yrs.

Sure, there are some girls pulling in money, but probably a niche market. Perhaps they sell content. I know my story is not unique and nothing to do with me being at it too long. The sites are just dead. Top earners are all retiring and I won't be far behind. On my Asian sites, I see most girls sleeping in front of the cam. I never do that - I work very hard always and stay alert. There are not even freeloaders coming in these days. I'm referring to my experience over 5 sites. I can have 4-5 sites open and hardly a guest over all of them. You say you can barely even make $4000? I'd be happy to make that. I'm down to $400 a week and sometimes cannot reach that. My daily goal is now $100. Last year it was $200 and back a year earlier it was $300. All of this year I have never made more than $200 and that was twice. I talk to customers on my sites that I know well who tell me how badly all the other girls are doing and how desperate they are getting. It's hard to work long hours if there are no customers... so my hours in front of the cam are reduced somewhat as I cannot maintain my energy in empty rooms.

btw, I am a vanilla cam girl, so that could be boring by definition LOL. I don't do much - never anal or anything kinky... but I never have, so that's not it either.

tropo
10-06-2019, 08:20 AM
I wonder if the industry is just over saturated now with girls on top of the change in generations of men?

I don't think oversaturation is the problem. Surely, in the back of your mind, you didn't think this would last forever. Younger generation meet on Facebook and use other apps to hook up. The older spenders die out slowly and the sites don't get younger guys joining up to take their place. My biggest spender has cancer and will soon check out. I'm sure a lot of my big spenders of old have passed away by now, or lost their libido.

All things pass in time to make way for new ideas and technology. Apart from that, free high quality porn is abundant.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 09:12 AM
Sure, there are some girls pulling in money, but probably a niche market. Perhaps they sell content. I know my story is not unique and nothing to do with me being at it too long. The sites are just dead. Top earners are all retiring and I won't be far behind. On my Asian sites I see most girls sleeping in front of the cam. I never do that - I work very hard always and stay alert. There are not even free loaders coming in these days. I'm referring to my experience over 5 sites. I can have 4-5 sites open and hardly a guest over all of them. You say you can barely even make $4000? I'd be happy to make that. I'm down to $400 a week and sometimes cannot reach that. My daily goal is now $100. Last year it was $200 and back a year earlier it was $300. All of this year I have never made more than $200 and that was twice. I talk to customers on my sites that I know well who tell me how badly all the other girls are doing and how desperate they are getting. It's hard to work long hours if there are no customers... so my hours in front of the cam are reduced somewhat as I cannot maintain my energy in empty rooms.

btw, I am a vanila cam girl, so that could be boring by definition LOL. I don't do much - never anal or anything kinky... but I never have, so that's not it either.

Actually I meant I can barely get to $4000 .. it hasn't happened in a year and let me tell you I am fucking pissed off... I worked more than 40 hours every week.. it's so draining... and I am also in 5 cam sites so I know ... they are very dead and right now sup0er dead

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 09:14 AM
I agree with a lot of what you say.. because when camming was a
NEW things .. the cam girls became millionaires... I was a bit late on that as I started in 2003


I don't think oversaturation is the problem. Surely, in the back of your mind, you didn't think this would last forever. Younger generation meet on Facebook and use other apps to hook up. The older spenders die out slowly and the sites don't get younger guys joining up to take their place. My biggest spender has cancer and will soon check out. I'm sure a lot of my big spenders of old have passed away by now, or lost their libido.

All things pass in time to make way for new ideas and technology. Apart from that, free high quality porn is abundant.

tropo
10-06-2019, 10:48 AM
Actually I meant I can barely get to $4000 .. it hasn't happened in a year and let me tell you I am fucking pissed off... I worked more than 40 hours every week.. it's so draining... and I am also in 5 cam sites so I know ... they are very dead and right now sup0er dead

If you can "barely get to $4000" does that mean you're hitting $3000 plus every month? Seems like you're still doing ok despite the downturn.

LaraLee
10-06-2019, 11:18 AM
I don't think oversaturation is the problem. Surely, in the back of your mind, you didn't think this would last forever. Younger generation meet on Facebook and use other apps to hook up. The older spenders die out slowly and the sites don't get younger guys joining up to take their place. My biggest spender has cancer and will soon check out. I'm sure a lot of my big spenders of old have passed away by now, or lost their libido.

All things pass in time to make way for new ideas and technology. Apart from that, free high quality porn is abundant.

I think it really depends, I get twice as many younger guys then older ones. I'm 40 years old and they like the "milf" type. I've never made tons of money , but I can pay the bills with a little left over. If I was making $4000 a month I would be retiring from camming by now.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 11:54 AM
I am working over 40 hours a week to get over $3000 yes.. but no not doing ok cuz I need over $4000 to pay my bills and since this has been going on since 2016.. I am in 70k of credit card debt mostly from covering bills that my income wont... I finally got both my sons a lil part time job or something while they are in college to help out and get out of this credit card debt. My oldest is doing some transcription work and my youngest is doing uber eats now.. but he is struggling to even do that because he has no motivation... I am stressed...


If you can "barely get to $4000" does that mean you're hitting $3000 plus every month? Seems like you're still doing ok despite the downturn.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 12:28 PM
It's not a lot of money when you are solely raising 2 college student adults... I mean I cannot get my bills down more... our grocery bill the last 2 months was $1500 a month...


I think it really depends, I get twice as many younger guys then older ones. I'm 40 years old and they like the "milf" type. I've never made tons of money , but I can pay the bills with a little left over. If I was making $4000 a month I would be retiring from camming by now.

LaraLee
10-06-2019, 01:53 PM
It's not a lot of money when you are solely raising 2 college student adults... I mean I cannot get my bills down more... our grocery bill the last 2 months was $1500 a month...

I understand! Raising kids on your own is never easy. My one child lives on his own with his gf. My bills are under $2100 a month, so making $4000 a month would be allot for me. I mean I live a very simple lifestyle, because I know camming money isn't guaranteed.

NitaBaby
10-06-2019, 02:03 PM
I understand! Raising kids on your own is never easy. Mine one child lives on his own with his gf. My bills are under $2100 a month, so making $4000 a month would be allot for me. I mean I live a very simple lifestyle, because I know camming money isn't guaranteed.

Same. I actually tested this and 1500 would have me on food stamps (but "surviving") and 2100 would cover everything and allow me to add to savings. I'd die if camming couldn't handle 2k and sometimes it acts like it can't.

LaraLee
10-06-2019, 02:09 PM
Same. I actually tested this and 1500 would have me on food stamps (but "surviving") and 2100 would cover everything and allow me to add to savings. I'd die if camming couldn't handle 2k and sometimes it acts like it can't.

I know for me, i can only handle being on cam for 20-25 hours a week, anymore then that I start to feel like a prisioner in my own home. Now until the end of the year I will put more effort into making a $1000 a week.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 02:28 PM
Yea.. I was just thinking today my life hasn't changed at all in 20 yrs... my mortgage is the same as my rent was in the year 2000.... I only pay $755.... I have never had relationships.. never got married, divorced , no grandchildren.. nothing new .. my kids are still going to school just like they used to when they were young.. they have never had relationships or anything... it's like the only thing that has changed is the 20 yrs that passed by.. I get really depressed a lot watching people live there lives to the fullest and I am still 27 .. even though I am almost 47.. no new experiences.. I need a new life ..


I understand! Raising kids on your own is never easy. My one child lives on his own with his gf. My bills are under $2100 a month, so making $4000 a month would be allot for me. I mean I live a very simple lifestyle, because I know camming money isn't guaranteed.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 02:29 PM
Oh ok.. I work 40+ hours a week and I hate it and far to much for me to handle with an auto immune disease.


I know for me, i can only handle being on cam for 20-25 hours a week, anymore then that I start to feel like a prisioner in my own home. Now until the end of the year I will put more effort into making a $1000 a week.

tropo
10-06-2019, 03:02 PM
I am working over 40 hours a week to get over $3000 yes.. but no not doing ok cuz I need over $4000 to pay my bills and since this has been going on since 2016.. I am in 70k of credit card debt mostly from covering bills that my income wont... I finally got both my sons a lil part time job or something while they are in college to help out and get out of this credit card debt. My oldest is doing some transcription work and my youngest is doing uber eats now.. but he is struggling to even do that because he has no motivation... I am stressed...

The sad part about this is something we don't like to think about too much... for example, if I was making $5000 a month in 2005, I would need to make $7000 a month now to be equivalent value... or the other way around, if I managed to make $4000 a month now, that's only about $2900 in 2005 money. This is using average inflation statistics for the US. It will differ in other countries.

AlexiaJacobs
10-06-2019, 03:10 PM
I'm exclusive with SM and I come here to vent quite a bit, but legit...I pay all my bills AND have money to save due them. Girl, you already have an idea of camming...and when you become a new model on SM you know what you can and will not put up with so new model will be good for you.

Please make the switch. You have SW and all this support. You'll do so much better than Bonga. Let go of those nerves and make the leap. You WON'T regret it.


You guys have me excited to start now. I am so thankful for this forum and all the super valuable info you ladies have been so generous in sharing. I'm pretty pumped to be part of such an awesome little community here! Thank you guys! <3 <3 <3

LaraLee
10-06-2019, 03:50 PM
Yea.. I was just thinking today my life hasn't changed at all in 20 yrs... my mortgage is the same as my rent was in the year 2000.... I only pay $755.... I have never had relationships.. never got married, divorced , no grandchildren.. nothing new .. my kids are still going to school just like they used to when they were young.. they have never had relationships or anything... it's like the only thing that has changed is the 20 yrs that passed by.. I get really depressed a lot watching people live there lives to the fullest and I am still 27 .. even though I am almost 47.. no new experiences.. I need a new life ..

I feel the same way. Being a cam model is a very lonely world . I moved to Florida 3 years ago with hopes of getting a regular job and just living my life. However jobs in Florida don't pay enough to live off of, so I got into camming. It has paid the bills for 2.5 years, but the few friends I do have here, don't know I cam. So i'm alone 90% of the time. Its not easy.

Miss_ShaSha
10-06-2019, 03:54 PM
Oh ok.. I work 40+ hours a week and I hate it and far to much for me to handle with an auto immune disease.

My hat is fuckin off to you, I mean...take that motherfucker OFF!!! You are a goddamn QUEEN. 40 hr weeks are the worst. You have so much strength! I'm just shaking my head. If guys knew how hard this work was they'd save all their money just to give it to us. FUCK. SALUTE sister!!!

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 04:12 PM
Thanks I was lucky enough to receive large tips from some youngin who was happy about his paid internship that has a well off family.. at least he likes me...lol.. cant make shit on SM the last 2 days.. this was on CB


My hat is fuckin off to you, I mean...take that motherfucker OFF!!! You are a goddamn QUEEN. 40 hr weeks are the worst. You have so much strength! I'm just shaking my head. If guys knew how hard this work was they'd save all their money just to give it to us. FUCK. SALUTE sister!!!

NitaBaby
10-06-2019, 04:49 PM
Camming didn't "suck" per se, I don't want to continue this trend of mine of being ungrateful when I know I couldn't make this much at a regular job. But I just tried to make that last $78 for an even $300 and thought "hey! why not a gold show! so-and-so is banking right now with hers!"

Now I'm offended and ready to give up. I could definitely make 78 damn dollars in the next two hours if I stayed but I chose to cuss them out before I left in grand fashion. I should probably stop watching other hoes do gold shows.

One guy had the nerve to ask for a free flash before I logged off. My count down was still at 0 dollars. You funky bitch.

anonymous camgirl
10-06-2019, 05:30 PM
I can't believe this, this is the first year in 17 yrs I have ever been on cam where men are telling me I should do manual labor on their farm or carry their golf clubs for them.. what has happened to me that I am so undesirable to not to be spoiled.. WTF

andreaxchanel
10-06-2019, 07:44 PM
alright...almost 2 hours and one butt flash lol. room counts up. ppl talking, no prv/excl YET buttttt we'll see. lol. I will not be defeated.

andreaxchanel
10-06-2019, 08:01 PM
alright...almost 2 hours and one butt flash lol. room counts up. ppl talking, no prv/excl YET buttttt we'll see. lol. I will not be defeated.


yayyyy newbie took me to a 10min exclusive and I rockedddd it he tipped me after! Ladies, how we doing?


YIKES. I just did a 21 minute Skyprivate and it says i was only paid for 1 minute...

BubblyBlonde
10-06-2019, 08:17 PM
I could only work early today. It was a bummer.

laurielegs
10-06-2019, 09:47 PM
I'm so frustrated with the skype losers I'm getting tonight, ugh...

First they add me I say hello right away and then they ask me for a link to my profile, wtf. I send it and then they start the paypal amazon bullshit. I wish it was busy enough on other sites that I could just drop CMD and all the other skype sites but it does bring in at least some $ and occasionally I get a big money night. I'm just so annoyed tonight at the broke immature idiots who try to scam.

BubblyBlonde
10-06-2019, 10:43 PM
I'm so frustrated with the skype losers I'm getting tonight, ugh...

First they add me I say hello right away and then they ask me for a link to my profile, wtf. I send it and then they start the paypal amazon bullshit. I wish it was busy enough on other sites that I could just drop CMD and all the other skype sites but it does bring in at least some $ and occasionally I get a big money night. I'm just so annoyed tonight at the broke immature idiots who try to scam.

CMD generates so many time wasters. I think it could be solved by just making them pay for our Chat ID’s. I really like CMD other than the fact I have to weed out all these losers.

laurielegs
10-06-2019, 11:16 PM
CMD generates so many time wasters. I think it could be solved by just making them pay for our Chat ID’s. I really like CMD other than the fact I have to weed out all these losers.

That is a GREAT idea. Even if it was $1 at least we would know they are registered there and have a credit or debit card on file.

ashley.miller
10-07-2019, 02:19 AM
Hello, @andreaxchanel. Did you already talked to my colleagues from the Support Department about this issue? If not, please leave a message with your Skype Id and the member's so we can solve this. Have a great day!

Marina Starr
10-07-2019, 05:15 AM
I wonder why Mark didn't started this when he first created CMD. If they can't pay, tip $1, they can fuck off! On NF they have to buy skype ID or call you to get it.


That is a GREAT idea. Even if it was $1 at least we would know they are registered there and have a credit or debit card on file.

Marina Starr
10-07-2019, 05:27 AM
I wonder why Mark didn't started this when he first created CMD. If they can't pay, tip $1, they can fuck off!


That is a GREAT idea. Even if it was $1 at least we would know they are registered there and have a credit or debit card on file.

Glamourmilf
10-07-2019, 07:09 AM
Usually I can always depend on Sunday to be my best money making day.
Not yesterday.
I logged on in the morning. Nothing but short shows.
Said fuck it. Logged off and went and had my hair done.
Came back in the late afternoon, and nothing but short shows then too.:-\
*And by short I mean less than 2 minutes. ( Got great ratings, and after show tips though.) Hum.
They were all fetish shows, with detailed scenarios too.
Never even took my top off the entire day.
Argh!
My hairdresser saw more skin than any of these cam customers did. Lol!

anonymous camgirl
10-07-2019, 07:44 AM
I'm so frustrated with the skype losers I'm getting tonight, ugh...

First they add me I say hello right away and then they ask me for a link to my profile, wtf. I send it and then they start the paypal amazon bullshit. I wish it was busy enough on other sites that I could just drop CMD and all the other skype sites but it does bring in at least some $ and occasionally I get a big money night. I'm just so annoyed tonight at the broke immature idiots who try to scam.

I have always HATED skype! and for the same reason I use it because it's not busy enough. Back in the day I loved YAHOO sessions and they would buy more than 10 mins and never stay the whole time..so it was a nice tip for you, it was fantastic.. remember camgirlshide? not sure how long you been camming for..

andreaxchanel
10-07-2019, 09:23 AM
Hello, @andreaxchanel. Did you already talked to my colleagues from the Support Department about this issue? If not, please leave a message with your Skype Id and the member's so we can solve this. Have a great day!

Hiiiii, I did thank you. Y'all are the BOMB with customer support. Love it lol. Have an awesome day!

SapphireXO
10-07-2019, 01:16 PM
Yup 2 hours online -- $5...Monday's UGH

Girly_Girl
10-07-2019, 01:17 PM
^^^ Are Monday's usually slower for everyone?

SoloDesire
10-07-2019, 01:19 PM
^^^ Are Monday's usually slower for everyone?

Mondays usually aren't too bad for me. Tuesdays are worse and Wednesdays are the worst. That's typically how it works, but you just never know. Every week can be different.

DahliaSimone
10-07-2019, 01:25 PM
^^^ Are Monday's usually slower for everyone?

Mondays are usually one of my better days, its Tues-Thurs that are nightmares.

Miss_ShaSha
10-07-2019, 01:30 PM
^^^ Are Monday's usually slower for everyone?

I don't seem to have too much of a problem on Mondays. I don't always hit goal, but it's a lot better than Tuesdays. I take Tuesdays off. But regardless, I'm usually sitting and waiting for shows on SM a lot with the exception of Sundays. Sundays can be pretty fast paced.

anonymous camgirl
10-07-2019, 06:10 PM
everyguy that was a regular client came to my room today were all the damn cheap $2 , 3 or $5 in pvt guys.. uggh so yea it sucked for me too , I worked 4-9 pm EST tonite.

AcidYellow
10-07-2019, 06:53 PM
everyguy that was a regular client came to my room today were all the damn cheap $2 , 3 or $5 in pvt guys.. uggh so yea it sucked for me too , I worked 4-9 pm EST tonite.

Same here. Today was slow. Thx God I streamed yesterday

AcidYellow
10-07-2019, 06:58 PM
For me vary a lot. When monday is slow, tuesday improve. But the bad days for me can be Saturday and friday nightˇ, almost always. And today a couple of regs were talking about sports... and that were a bit sad cos their fav team, lostˇ whatever. I will go to bed, im very tired and is dead af.

andreaxchanel
10-07-2019, 08:05 PM
Never had a bad Monday. It's always exciting for me...until tonight I basically wasted 30 minutes with shit bitrate because the internet went down. BUT i'm gonna make it up!

Blovely
10-07-2019, 08:35 PM
Sundays and Mondays use to be my best days. Tuesday and Wednesdays were slow af. Thursdays were ok but not that great. Fridays and Saturdays use to be great. Over the years things got sucky and now I have no guaranteed best or great days.

izshadow
10-07-2019, 09:28 PM
Wow I guess I havent missed much. I've been on for an hour and have only had three hello's. With only one responding back to my hello, how are you. Which then consisted of them saying "good" and poof... .

andreaxchanel
10-07-2019, 09:41 PM
Nothing more frustrating than a fucking internet issue when you have regulars coming in anticipating a show.

izshadow
10-07-2019, 10:41 PM
I think I need to go back to days. For me it doesnt matter if its day or night, shit sucks.

harm
10-07-2019, 11:01 PM
Yea.. I was just thinking today my life hasn't changed at all in 20 yrs... my mortgage is the same as my rent was in the year 2000.... I only pay $755.... I have never had relationships.. never got married, divorced , no grandchildren.. nothing new .. my kids are still going to school just like they used to when they were young.. they have never had relationships or anything... it's like the only thing that has changed is the 20 yrs that passed by.. I get really depressed a lot watching people live there lives to the fullest and I am still 27 .. even though I am almost 47.. no new experiences.. I need a new life ..

I am 30 years old and my life is exactly like yours.

izshadow
10-07-2019, 11:21 PM
Three hours in.... 38 cents. I'm going to bed. Night guys and good luck to those who are pushing on in to the morning hours!

LoraDoll
10-07-2019, 11:42 PM
I wonder if i m not able to make money on J anymore. Summer was slow, aug was slow , september even slower but i had a few people in my room to work at least, so I did okay.
And now, this month, something killed my room. From one day to another my guest number went down to 50 from 150-200 and suddenly no one comes to my room, i mean: during all in my shift it s just empty. I m not even sure anymore that members see me on the site. It doesnt look like that. No clue what is goin on.