View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
Ms_Kristen
10-08-2019, 06:19 AM
I wonder if i m not able to make money on J anymore. Summer was slow, aug was slow , september even slower but i had a few people in my room to work at least, so I did okay.
And now, this month, something killed my room. From one day to another my guest number went down to 50 from 150-200 and suddenly no one comes to my room, i mean: during all in my shift it s just empty. I m not even sure anymore that members see me on the site. It doesnt look like that. No clue what is goin on.
This exact same thing happened to me about 3 years ago.I was exclusively on Jasmin,hundreds of guests/members every time I logged in,good $,then all of the sudden,one day,no guests no members no $. I went from 2-3000 $ every two weeks to nothing.To me, the situation never improved, I had to find another site,and now I only make(sometimes,not always) 100-200$ every 2 weeks there, almost only from regulars who visit me when they remember me lol I am not saying it will be your case too,but if I were you I would be looking for another site to splitcam with. In my opinion, Jasmin is a site for studios only.My best friend worked with a top studio for a year,and what she told me from the inside convinced me that as an independent model I will never make any $ there again,and those who still make some will be pushed out too. Which sucks,because I used to love Jasmin and do great there.
Glamourmilf
10-08-2019, 06:42 AM
Mondays usually aren't too bad for me. Tuesdays are worse and Wednesdays are the worst. That's typically how it works, but you just never know. Every week can be different.
Exactly. Mondays are typically great for me. This Monday, not so much. I made more in PSO.
Go figure.:-\
ravenskyy
10-08-2019, 12:20 PM
Wow. Today sucks.
anonymous camgirl
10-08-2019, 01:07 PM
I was wondering if you girls knew a work at home job that I could do that is not sex work.. just $5-10 a day as a side job?...lol
EricaErotica
10-08-2019, 03:15 PM
For anyone struggling right now, the best thing might be to eliminate or greatly reduce your grocery bill.
By implementing this strategy, this can usually create a savings of $200 - $1000/month per household.
I used to work in the non-profit sector. There are many food pantries throughout the country that DO NOT require ANY documentation.
If you are in the United States, please visit www.foodpantries.org to find such a facility in your area.
EricaErotica
10-08-2019, 03:19 PM
I almost feel like we should have a resources area here on the forum to help ladies who are struggling now.
If the mods think this is okay, please let me know.
I used to work in the non-profit sector and in human resources.
There is information I have that might be useful.
Also, people can add and contribute as they find out about helpful community resources.
Just a thought....
EricaErotica
10-08-2019, 03:22 PM
FREE FOOD (https://www.freefood.org/) is another great resource.
DahliaSimone
10-08-2019, 05:05 PM
God, fuck today. Im gettin really nervous bc i missed my best day (Sunday) bc I felt like garbage....and today.....ive made just under $30 lol. Really out here killin it.
MissAliss515xx
10-08-2019, 07:35 PM
Wow, tried a evening shift and made 19$ in 2 hours. Nope. Will only do day shifts for a while if this isn't picking up!
xStellaBlue
10-09-2019, 02:04 AM
hmmmmmmm. woke up super early to hit he early AM (4am est - 10am est) and 1 hour and I'm at $0.00. Hopefully this picks up, I have several big ticket items I need to purchase in he next 3 months
seicento
10-09-2019, 06:21 AM
delete wrong thread nvm
Glamourmilf
10-09-2019, 08:20 AM
I was wondering if you girls knew a work at home job that I could do that is not sex work.. just $5-10 a day as a side job?...lol[/QUOTE
I would really like to know too. Because I'm out of a job as of January 1st, with this new California law going into effect.
[QUOTE=EricaErotica;3140505]For anyone struggling right now, the best thing might be to eliminate or greatly reduce your grocery bill.
By implementing this strategy, this can usually create a savings of $200 - $1000/month per household.
I used to work in the non-profit sector. There are many food pantries throughout the country that DO NOT require ANY documentation.
If you are in the United States, please visit www.foodpantries.org to find such a facility in your area.
I went to a food bank yesterday. Ironic, because I'm usually the one donating.
As horrible as it was to be on the receiving end, I'm grateful that they are available.
I didn't have to show my ID. But, I had to write down my name, address, and verify that my income isn't over a certain amount.
I told them about this new law, which will result in me being homeless, as of Jan 1st. Asked if they have resources for employment.
They told me to check with employment agencies in the area.
I'm thinking, yeah, but where have I been for the last 9 years? What do I tell them that I've done for job experience?
Ugh!
NitaBaby
10-09-2019, 08:30 AM
I would really like to know too. Because I'm out of a job as of January 1st, with this new California law going into effect.
I went to a food bank yesterday. Ironic, because I'm usually the one donating.
As horrible it was to be on the receiving end, I'm grateful that they are available.
I didn't have to show my ID. But, I had to write down my name, address, and verify that my income isn't over a certain amount.
I told them about this new law, which will result in me being homeless, as of Jan 1st. Asked if they have resources for employment.
They told me to check with employment agencies in the area.
I'm thinking, yeah, but where have I been for the last 9 years? What do I tell them that I've done for job experience?
Ugh!
When i have employment gaps i ALWAYS claim to have been working from home. I worked at home for about 6 years before I started camming so I know how hard it is for them to reach anyone in management simply because most numbers are so private and internal that even past employees can't reach anyone. It's almost like calling a high school thinking that you're going to be led straight to someone specific that works in the district's board of education......yeah, good luck with that. The hoops are too numerous for most employers to bother jumping through. Seriously, I've been fired from a number of work at home jobs and they will never be able to verify that. I can't reach those mfs myself.
If you ever choose to claim that you worked from home some places that I've worked for are Arise, Concentrix, Converygs, Sykes, Lionbridge, Appen, and so many others but just say you worked as a call center rep and call it a day.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
10-09-2019, 08:54 AM
^^What do you mean MamaMilf? Can you not cam anymore? Is that what the new law is about? Does that affect the US? Or just CA? I'm confused.
Here's a discussion on Ca Assembly Bill 5
https://www.stripperweb.com/forum/showthread.php?225855-California-Assembly-5-NEW-LAW-Independent-Contractors-will-no-longer-be-allowed!!!
MissAliss515xx
10-09-2019, 12:01 PM
Man it sucks so bad, Imma watch videos on OBS and finally work that into SM. Like I'm making 5$ an hour. It sucks.
Miss_ShaSha
10-09-2019, 12:15 PM
^^I'm on SM now almost 3 hrs and it's so slow for me. I mean geez! If I was working on a low goal I'd be stressed right now. I'm focusing on my hrs goal, but damn it's hard to stay on. If I've only got like 5 potential members then you know how barren my room is LOL.
I'm ready for a nap and I slept 9 hrs.
WTFuckinFUCK!!!
SapphireXO
10-09-2019, 12:21 PM
^^I'm on SM now almost 3 hrs and it's so slow for me. I mean geez! If I was working on a low goal I'd be stressed right now. I'm focusing on my hrs goal, but damn it's hard to stay on. If I've only got like 5 potential members then you know how barren my room is LOL.
I'm ready for a nap and I slept 9 hrs.
WTFuckinFUCK!!!
Just might be an hours game. Dont give them more for free then its worth. I change cam angles to just my crotch or chest when its dead as slow. They dont deserve my face when its slow AF.
NitaBaby
10-09-2019, 12:22 PM
I concur. It is slow as molasses today. One show pretty much made all of my earnings for the day so far. Plus a CMD show. But ImLive is so cheap that it'll take me 47 years to reach my first $100 with them. I kinda have to make a certain amount today so I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing and pray to the moon gods for a miracle.
Miss_ShaSha
10-09-2019, 12:31 PM
^^Hahaha 47 years. Girl, I can always count on you for a laugh. Thanks!
ravenskyy
10-09-2019, 12:31 PM
I really should have more money for 3.5 hours of my life. So many beggars on SM today. And I've blocked like 10+ people. I've literally had 3 guys tell me that they didn't have any money to spend. Bitch, gtfo!
seicento
10-09-2019, 12:36 PM
^ SM does suck. I've been on and it was dead for me.
NitaBaby
10-09-2019, 01:05 PM
^ SM does suck. I've been on and it was dead for me.
You know what sick and twisted? Out of the $100 I've made so far today $70 of it came from SM. I have every right to complain about how slow it is but that funky ass website STILL pays me more than everybody else. UGGHH!!!
Miss_ShaSha
10-09-2019, 01:14 PM
It's so damn slow over here even a 70 yr old with a walker is power walking over my ass on SM. Fuck! Then a level 3 member comes in and chats a bit then says the dreaded "brb". Motherfuck...I wanna break something.
I've cleared negative energy, did yoga, then meditated and cleared negative energy again. Jesus H Christ...I need a Goddamn exorcism cause fuck me if I'mma stay on for 3 more hrs!!!
seicento
10-09-2019, 01:25 PM
You know what sick and twisted? Out of the $100 I've made so far today $70 of it came from SM. I have every right to complain about how slow it is but that funky ass website STILL pays me more than everybody else. UGGHH!!!
Some days it does for me too. When I complain is usually that I make like $5/hr. But if on the 1st page u made $70, I can't expect more than $5/hr I guess. I don't understand how the hell weekend was so busy and now I can't even pull $20/hr. It's not that it was weekend and wankers were off, coz I have dead weekends too. Maybe affiliates are doing their job once in a blue moon, I don't know. If I was to be exclusive with SM, I wouldn't survive. Can't count on it. Splitting is my savior. I like SM, the site itself, but pisses me off big time.
ravenskyy
10-09-2019, 01:46 PM
Me:So what brought you online?
Louiloui: Ohhh I honestly don't know why I got on tbh I was bored,
*bitch really?*
Louiloui: Deadaaa I spent 147 on exclusive last night
*is this supposed to piss me off or make me jealous? fuck this idiot.*
Camming sucks because of dickheads like this.
AcidYellow
10-09-2019, 02:13 PM
Yes¡ Past week was good but this one? Bad. Jumm doesnt matter if last week was fine cuz then makes a balance with this one that has been slow. Plus another long week contest¡ Im ready to make the 250 required¡ because I never can make more than that¡ during those days, and for sure is gonna be a pain in the ass to reach them. Im not being negative, just saying how it is in my case. And soo weird why any of my regs have been around. And dammed sports. Hate them.
AlexiaJacobs
10-09-2019, 02:18 PM
Me:So what brought you online?
Louiloui: Ohhh I honestly don't know why I got on tbh I was bored,
*bitch really?*
Louiloui: Deadaaa I spent 147 on exclusive last night
*is this supposed to piss me off or make me jealous? fuck this idiot.*
Camming sucks because of dickheads like this.
I had a guy earlier ask me if I ever saw a dude suck his own dick.....and if I wanted to see him do this. I said, sure! (Of course I fucking don't) So then he goes "Sweet, lemme just go stretch out first" and then logs off. I think we all know he wasn't coming back.
I get so mad that these guys waste our time and do this because they think its fuckin' cute or because they're bored. What it really comes down to is they do not care. They don't care that we are literally trying to make a living. We have families to feed and take care of and this isn't a game for us. It is our income. How we survive. I've even gone off on a couple of em and said just that..."Do you not realize I have a child to feed and bills to pay?? I have tons of fucking laundry I could be doing right now but no, I'm stuck on this site dealing with your pathetic broke ass. Now if you don't mind, fuck the fuck off!!!" It's these kinds of dudes that make it hard not be just be a bitch all the time.
I can only hope I ruined his hard on with talk of laundry and responsibility. Fuckers.
Holly_xoxo
10-09-2019, 02:38 PM
I really should have more money for 3.5 hours of my life. So many beggars on SM today. And I've blocked like 10+ people. I've literally had 3 guys tell me that they didn't have any money to spend. Bitch, gtfo!
OMG! this!! that's the biggest peeve of mine with those guys. They're just on out of boredom. They have zero intention of spending a penny but instead of going for a walk or reading a book or doing something productive....they come on porn sites to chat because we're a captive audience (until we block their broke ass)
Miss_ShaSha
10-09-2019, 02:38 PM
Man, I'm not supposed to be ungrateful, but DAYUM...I've been all kinds of good and for 5 hrs $13 an hr?!?!
FUCK THIS GODDAMN DAY!!!
I'm gonna get out and socialize then sleep well and try again tomorrow. Things just have to get better.
Best of luck ladies.
NitaBaby
10-09-2019, 02:55 PM
Man, I'm not supposed to be ungrateful, but DAYUM...I've been all kinds of good and for 5 hrs $13 an hr?!?!
FUCK THIS GODDAMN DAY!!!
I'm gonna get out and socialize then sleep well and try again tomorrow. Things just have to get better.
Best of luck ladies.
Honestly, you've got this. Whatever you're experiencing right now is likely 3x better than what it will be like during contest week. That's a sucky way to think in the name of 'positivity' but it's true.
LoraDoll
10-09-2019, 09:36 PM
I miss the "busy summer days" !
andreaxchanel
10-09-2019, 10:27 PM
Tonight was crazyyyyy. Slow. If it wasn't for a guy who has been wanting a show for weeks literally waiting me out b/c we kept missing each other (which I appreciate so much), I wouldn't have made my last bit of daycare money for the week. So no complaints lol. Just a post. Tomorrow is another day!
Mimixchang
10-10-2019, 12:34 AM
So I've been on 3 times this week and I've only made $134 for a total of 6.5 hours. Still $20 a hour but damn. I lost my job yesterday and so I'm really relying on making more money on here. Ahkkkakjsodjaijdow
Glamourmilf
10-10-2019, 04:06 AM
When i have employment gaps i ALWAYS claim to have been working from home. I worked at home for about 6 years before I started camming so I know how hard it is for them to reach anyone in management simply because most numbers are so private and internal that even past employees can't reach anyone. It's almost like calling a high school thinking that you're going to be led straight to someone specific that works in the district's board of education......yeah, good luck with that. The hoops are too numerous for most employers to bother jumping through. Seriously, I've been fired from a number of work at home jobs and they will never be able to verify that. I can't reach those mfs myself.
If you ever choose to claim that you worked from home some places that I've worked for are Arise, Concentrix, Converygs, Sykes, Lionbridge, Appen, and so many others but just say you worked as a call center rep and call it a day.
Ah, I see. Thank You for sharing that. It's very helpful.
*I see that Illinois, and New York are jumping on the band wagon to ban independent contractors.
The law will eventually be Federal.
I guess camming sucks thread will be a thing of the past.
Because there will be no more camming, or any online sex work for that matter.
Good times.
EricaErotica
10-10-2019, 04:27 AM
Incorporate as a legal business entity and you should be fine.
And if the day ever comes where you cannot work for ANY adult companies, which I highly doubt, with your own company you can obtain your own adult payment processor, create your own websites and advertise your products/services to men and keep more of the money for yourself. I've been doing that for the past 9 years and it is better than dealing with any of these companies in actuality. You ALWAYS have options.
Ah, I see. Thank You for sharing that. It's very helpful.
*I see that Illinois, and New York are jumping on the band wagon to ban independent contractors.
The law will eventually be Federal.
I guess camming sucks thread will be a thing of the past.
Because there will be no more camming, or any online sex work for that matter.
Good times.
EricaErotica
10-10-2019, 04:33 AM
With your own adult payment processor you keep 75% - 90% of your earnings.
Girly_Girl
10-10-2019, 07:20 AM
Incorporate as a legal business entity and you should be fine.
And if the day ever comes where you cannot work for ANY adult companies, which I highly doubt, with your own company you can obtain your own adult payment processor, create your own websites and advertise your products/services to men and keep more of the money for yourself. I've been doing that for the past 9 years and it is better than dealing with any of these companies in actuality. You ALWAYS have options.
I've been thinking about making my own site but where would be the best place to advertise?
EricaErotica
10-10-2019, 07:48 AM
The best way for you to advertise and promote your website is still the old school way. Create a WordPress Site with a blog. Post blogs about 3 - 5 days a week. Make sure that your site is optimized correctly for the search engines and that you are using the keywords that your type of customer is using when he searches for porn on Google and Bing. If you do this correctly, you can make $1,000 - $2,000/week (add porn affiliates to your website to make those higher earnings) consistently from your website and not have to worry about relying on companies anymore.
I've been thinking about making my own site but where would be the best place to advertise?
Girly_Girl
10-10-2019, 08:03 AM
The best way for you to advertise and promote your website is still the old school way. Create a WordPress Site with a blog. Post blogs about 3 - 5 days a week. Make sure that your site is optimized correctly for the search engines and that you are using the keywords that your type of customer is using when he searches for porn on Google and Bing. If you do this correctly, you can make $1,000 - $2,000 (add porn affiliates to your website to make those higher earnings) a week consistently from your website and not have to worry about relying on companies anymore.
Are you saying $1000-$2000 a week? Also when you say to add porn affiliates to my website, do you mean to sign up for a bunch of sites as an affiliate and then add their banners to my site to make a percentage off of websites like we do with our cam model link thru streamate?
I'm so sick of depending on companies anymore, I had to work 12 hours yesterday and only made $90 and today is just as dead as yesterday if not worse!!!!
EricaErotica
10-10-2019, 08:10 AM
YES!!! $1,000 - $2,000 a week. EVERY WEEK. JUST FOLLOW THE FORMULA.
And yes that is EXACTLY what I mean by being a porn affiliate. Sign up for as many as you want.
There are dudes who make $50,000 - $100,000 A YEAR promoting porn. Just do your research to make sure that the affiliate pays.
Join adult webmaster forums and you will see what I'm talking about. And this is legit.
I can make around $300 - $500 per week from the affiliates I promote.
Are you saying $1000-$2000 a week? Also when you say to add porn affiliates to my website, do you mean to sign up for a bunch of sites as an affiliate and then add their banners to my site to make a percentage off of websites like we do with our cam model link thru streamate?
I'm so sick of depending on companies anymore, I had to work 12 hours yesterday and only made $90 and today is just as dead as yesterday if not worse!!!!
Girly_Girl
10-10-2019, 08:17 AM
YES!!! $1,000 - $2,000 a week. EVERY WEEK. JUST FOLLOW THE FORMULA.
And yes that is EXACTLY what I mean by being a porn affiliate. There are dudes who make $50,000 - $100,000 A YEAR promoting porn.
Join adult webmaster forums and you will see what I'm talking about. And this is legit. I can make around $300 - $500 per week from the affiliates I promote.
thank u!!!!! I've checked into it before but just didnt have a clue as to where I would promote affiliate sites ;(
Sorry for all the questions but would I put the blog on my site or make my site and blog separate?
LoraDoll
10-10-2019, 08:22 AM
Are you saying $1000-$2000 a week? Also when you say to add porn affiliates to my website, do you mean to sign up for a bunch of sites as an affiliate and then add their banners to my site to make a percentage off of websites like we do with our cam model link thru streamate?
I'm so sick of depending on companies anymore, I had to work 12 hours yesterday and only made $90 and today is just as dead as yesterday if not worse!!!!
Girl it s my 10th hour today, and I made just a little bit more than 100. I wanted to log off, but I was curious if i really sit on this fucked up site all day long what ll happen. I started to make that little money after 8 hours of empty room and nothing in free. Looking for a way out? Yeah i do , damn sure.
EricaErotica
10-10-2019, 08:22 AM
No, these are not two separate sites. All of this is under ONE DOMAIN. So let's say your domain is girlygirlcamsdotcom.
One of the pages you would have on your website would be titled "BLOG" and on this page you post your blogs each day.
thank u!!!!! I've checked into it before but just didnt have a clue as to where I would promote affiliate sites ;(
Sorry for all the questions but would I put the blog on my site or make my site and blog separate?
anonymous camgirl
10-10-2019, 08:33 AM
Decided to use SM broadcast got a show in 2 mins.. what's up with that shit?
DahliaSimone
10-10-2019, 08:56 AM
This has nothing to do with camming but I have to vent some more because im so upset right now....so, i dont know our garbage man, never met him....but this morning my roomate called and got him fired because he kicked our garbage bin out of frustration because one of the bags was stuck. I mean its a huge ass tote, nothing but fire is gonna take that fucker down....and we all have bad days, we all have spurts of frustration....yet she had to call and cost a man his job when he did no damage (and he did his job, he took the fuckin garbage) and SHES FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT IT. She's so goddamn proud of herself that she cost a stranger his livelihood (I live in a pretty poor county in Ky)....it makes me sick. I feel so fucking bad for that dude after he finishes his route and gets back to the office....idk why it has me so tore up, I just....hate how people treat other people. Down to my soul. Im all teary eyed and i did a smoky eye today and its taking a lot of willpower to not ruin it. I know it probably sounds dumb to be so upset, but....her telling me about it, bragging and so fucking proud of her goddamn self just has me sick....ugh. I hope camming is good today, cause im obviously super emotional today.
NitaBaby
10-10-2019, 09:08 AM
This has nothing to do with camming but I have to vent some more because im so upset right now....so, i dont know our garbage man, never met him....but this morning my roomate called and got him fired because he kicked our garbage bin out of frustration because one of the bags was stuck. I mean its a huge ass tote, nothing but fire is gonna take that fucker down....and we all have bad days, we all have spurts of frustration....yet she had to call and cost a man his job when he did no damage (and he did his job, he took the fuckin garbage) and SHES FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT IT. She's so goddamn proud of herself that she cost a stranger his livelihood (I live in a pretty poor county in Ky)....it makes me sick. I feel so fucking bad for that dude after he finishes his route and gets back to the office....idk why it has me so tore up, I just....hate how people treat other people. Down to my soul. Im all teary eyed and i did a smoky eye today and its taking a lot of willpower to not ruin it. I know it probably sounds dumb to be so upset, but....her telling me about it, bragging and so fucking proud of her goddamn self just has me sick....ugh. I hope camming is good today, cause im obviously super emotional today.
I cry over stuff like that. It's called empathy - you have it. Some people have to work at placing themselves in anothers shoes, really break a sweat. Others are always thinking of a situation through a "what if it were me" lens. Your roomate is a perforated anus. You're not.
anonymous camgirl
10-10-2019, 09:21 AM
How do you know he got fired? doesn't sound like a firable offense to me unless he has been aggressive and violent on more than one occasion.
This has nothing to do with camming but I have to vent some more because im so upset right now....so, i dont know our garbage man, never met him....but this morning my roomate called and got him fired because he kicked our garbage bin out of frustration because one of the bags was stuck. I mean its a huge ass tote, nothing but fire is gonna take that fucker down....and we all have bad days, we all have spurts of frustration....yet she had to call and cost a man his job when he did no damage (and he did his job, he took the fuckin garbage) and SHES FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT IT. She's so goddamn proud of herself that she cost a stranger his livelihood (I live in a pretty poor county in Ky)....it makes me sick. I feel so fucking bad for that dude after he finishes his route and gets back to the office....idk why it has me so tore up, I just....hate how people treat other people. Down to my soul. Im all teary eyed and i did a smoky eye today and its taking a lot of willpower to not ruin it. I know it probably sounds dumb to be so upset, but....her telling me about it, bragging and so fucking proud of her goddamn self just has me sick....ugh. I hope camming is good today, cause im obviously super emotional today.
shysara79
10-10-2019, 09:23 AM
This has nothing to do with camming but I have to vent some more because im so upset right now....so, i dont know our garbage man, never met him....but this morning my roomate called and got him fired because he kicked our garbage bin out of frustration because one of the bags was stuck. I mean its a huge ass tote, nothing but fire is gonna take that fucker down....and we all have bad days, we all have spurts of frustration....yet she had to call and cost a man his job when he did no damage (and he did his job, he took the fuckin garbage) and SHES FUCKING BRAGGING ABOUT IT. She's so goddamn proud of herself that she cost a stranger his livelihood (I live in a pretty poor county in Ky)....it makes me sick. I feel so fucking bad for that dude after he finishes his route and gets back to the office....idk why it has me so tore up, I just....hate how people treat other people. Down to my soul. Im all teary eyed and i did a smoky eye today and its taking a lot of willpower to not ruin it. I know it probably sounds dumb to be so upset, but....her telling me about it, bragging and so fucking proud of her goddamn self just has me sick....ugh. I hope camming is good today, cause im obviously super emotional today.
Well you could always call the trash company and say something like " My roommate let me know that she called to complain about Joe kicking the trash can. My roommate Cruella was having a really bad morning and I think she may have thought she saw more frustration from the garbage man than what he actually had. He does a great job every week picking up the trash and I would hate for Cruella's bad morning to mess up his job".
DahliaSimone
10-10-2019, 09:26 AM
How do you know he got fired? doesn't sound like a firable offense to me unless he has been aggressive and violent on more than one occasion.
The lady on the phone told my roomate he would be fired, thats how I know...because she was standing there telling me that with a smug-ass face, proud of herself for costing a man his livelihood in an already poor county where jobs are sparse. Its not like its a big company, its a small hometown business, so I assume they have a 'customer is always right' policy. I mean, he did no damage. He took the trash. He just kicked a fuckin bin.
DahliaSimone
10-10-2019, 09:28 AM
Anyway, sorry, dont wanna derail the thread, just had to get that off my chest cause its bothering the piss out of me.