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Miss_ShaSha
12-07-2019, 07:38 AM
Congrats Sha! I'm glad that you found a way to leave camming. Good luck girl. xoxo

Sister, SISTER...I have tears right now. You have been such a godsend for me. When I was scared and down you lifted me up. I'll be back soon sis and it will follow with GOLD straight to your GODDAMN account!!!

Miss_ShaSha
12-07-2019, 07:41 AM
Congrats!!! So excited for you!!!

FUCK...I can feel your vibes. I'm receiving in a major way.


Get it, girl. I hope your business thrives, as do you. You deserve it.

Sis, love, do me a favor: when you do the Ho'oponopono please send me a few good vibes. I promise to reciprocate. Pulling for you AND CONGRATS on hitting high goal. Your fine ass deserves it!!!

seicento
12-07-2019, 08:29 AM
Sister, SISTER...I have tears right now. You have been such a godsend for me. When I was scared and down you lifted me up. I'll be back soon sis and it will follow with GOLD straight to your GODDAMN account!!!

<3 No amount of gold would make me happier than hearing from you later that you are doing great and you are stress free, you deserve the best. You have been so supportive to me and everyone here and you will be missed. Hugssssss.

webcamcutie
12-07-2019, 10:14 AM
You're not alone. This year has been difficult for many...myself included which is why I'm moving on. You can still do well tho sis. It's just a matter of time before all the changes are complete for SMC. Feel the disappointment then move forward like you always have. Feel the goddamn feels then move. I'm sending good thought vibrations your way. Hold fast, hold tight...you got this!!!

Thank you Sha. I know, I just don't want to let SM and their BS get to me especially when I'm working so hard to hit a goal I haven't been able to hit weekly all year (which used to be my reg high goal last year and I'd hit often). I'm not going to let SM psych me out or bring me down. I hella feel those positive vibes coming from you because I am ONLINE and ready to fucking KILL it! And you know what, if I don't hit it this week and fall short a bit, there IS next week, and the week after. One week this year before the month is out I'll get there, I don't care how many hours it takes. I NEED to do this for myself, SM fuckery aside. lol. Youre the best. You will excel in your new business and be hella successful. I KNOW it. Everyone here will miss you and your positive vibes and energy, but we're all rooting for you in your new path in life! You are such an amazing person.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 11:32 AM
OMG sis, I just got goosebumps. I'm gonna take your energy and move fast in the right direction. I'm sending them back to you. You're a damn hard worker and it's gonna pay off soon. Hold fast to your sexy ass energy. You'll get the visitors you need to rock this shit. It can suck sometimes, but the tough don't stay down long. You got this shit!!! EASY!!!

There are some great ladies here, but you are special to me, even tho we did not get to talk that much. Be well, Sha.

izshadow
12-07-2019, 11:41 AM
I know people say stay out of this thread and get your motivation from camming rocks but that thread actually depresses me even more. Even though I'm happy those girls are killing it and making hundreds within a couple hours. It breaks me knowing I can cam for 6 hours straight and maybe make a dollar. It makes me question everything about myself and hate the way I look even more.

KatM
12-07-2019, 12:21 PM
^^^This exactly, is not good to go in there if u not making what they make, seriously, if i go and read the amounts they post i feel pain in my heart literally, this fucking hurts when i know how much i struggle on SM for nothing lately.
So yeah, i am out of their league how u guys say it, no matter how happy i can be for somebody having success if i dont have the same level of success or more it's gonna hurt, is normal to put ourselves first, is the survival instinct. Dont go there, just stay where u feel 'home' and go there if the place will become ur next home, when u'll be in that league. My opinion xx

ETA:
And if this helps more, i am at 31$ for this week made in 11 hrs and 43 mins and i tell you, i had one good guy who went exclusive and tipped extra that got me to these 31$ cause in rest i had 1-2-3 dollar nights, last nite i made 67 cent in 3 hrs of stream. While i was still on cam waiting for shows/tips i had a panic attack, when i felt it coming i logged off right away and got up, it lasted a little while and i panicked of course but then i managed to breath, move and stretch and not call the ambulance like the first time i had one, a major one that i felt like i was gonna die of heart attack.
I am still on antidepressants, i take a pill called Coaxil that works both on depression and anxiety and that should keep me pretty functional but as i am not a machine i still got the panic attack due to the high level of stress, that's where SM got me again after 8 months of being totally ok.

There is no money to be made for me even some models are killing it in there.
I signed up with Stripchat and i hope and pray that site will work for me cause i cant take SM anymore.

DahliaSimone
12-07-2019, 12:26 PM
I know people say stay out of this thread and get your motivation from camming rocks but that thread actually depresses me even more. Even though I'm happy those girls are killing it and making hundreds within a couple hours. It breaks me knowing I can cam for 6 hours straight and maybe make a dollar. It makes me question everything about myself and hate the way I look even more.

Same. It demotivates the shit out of me.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 01:10 PM
I feel the exact same way about ”camming rocks”. I wish I could make as much money as some of the girls there do, with less struggle too, but I have to work my ass off and depend on regulars just to survive.And, as mean as it might sound, of course I do envy them. Dont get me wrong, I do wish all the best for them, as I do belive there is a place and a public for each and every one of us. But I feel like shit when I go read that thread, so I just dont. lol Nothing wrong with feeling this way. Just dont let it get to you. Most of the time it is not even about you. It is a matter of luck. It happens that a whale is in your room at the right moment and likes you. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it does not. We are not less because we have to struggle more.

DahliaSimone
12-07-2019, 01:15 PM
I feel the exact same way about ”camming rocks”. I wish I could make as much money as some of the girls there do, with less struggle too, but I have to work my ass off and depend on regulars just to survive.And, as mean as it might sound, of course I do envy them. Dont get me wrong, I do wish all the best for them, as I do belive there is a place and a public for each and every one of us. But I feel like shit when I go read that thread, so I just dont. lol Nothing wrong with feeling this way. Just dont let it get to you. Most of the time it is not even about you. It is a matter of luck. It happens that a whale is in your room at the right moment and likes you. Sometimes it happens, sometimes it does not. We are not less because we have to struggle more.
I struggle so hard with my sense of self as it is, so reading about girls killing it with little effort just....kills me. I love knowing that they are out here banking and being successful, i totally do, BUT it always makes me feel like shit that i have to struggle just to make in a day what some girls are pulling in an hour. But, I keep telling myself 'my time will come'. And avoiding that thread unless ive had a super good day....which is rare

AlexiaJacobs
12-07-2019, 01:30 PM
^I feel you ladies. I literally depend on the few regulars I have. I've struggled so hard lately to even log in. In the couple months Ive been on SM now I've had a hard time gaining any new regulars. So many ins and outs and no talking hardly at all. If they do they're just bullshittin. Literally after 20 minutes of logging in I have to press the Pause button and go smoke. I get sooo impatient just sitting there with zero interaction. :/

anonymous camgirl
12-07-2019, 01:33 PM
I rarely go there, they do not inspire me either, And frankly the Camming Rocks thread are just a highlight of a cam girls life. Like when people only share the good things in their lives on Facebook or Instagram.. They never share the ugliness or how hard their lives are.


I know people say stay out of this thread and get your motivation from camming rocks but that thread actually depresses me even more. Even though I'm happy those girls are killing it and making hundreds within a couple hours. It breaks me knowing I can cam for 6 hours straight and maybe make a dollar. It makes me question everything about myself and hate the way I look even more.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 03:12 PM
I struggle so hard with my sense of self as it is, so reading about girls killing it with little effort just....kills me. I love knowing that they are out here banking and being successful, i totally do, BUT it always makes me feel like shit that i have to struggle just to make in a day what some girls are pulling in an hour. But, I keep telling myself 'my time will come'. And avoiding that thread unless ive had a super good day....which is rare

You should not feel like shit because you cant make big $ camming. Most of us dont make that much anyway, we just manage to make a living, not getting rich or living the high life. I know girls at a studio, working in Jasmin, and getting tipped 50000$ a day.No bullshit, I saw the print screens. And my best friend worked there, she saw it happen. Not 500, not 5000....50000. I cant make 100$ in two weeks there.Am I suposed to feel bad about myself? Nah. That is just how things work. Dont compete with others, compete with yourself only. You dont know what goes on behind their screen. Do the best you can, and accept the fact that you might never get rich camming. I know I have. I am gratefull for whatever I can make. It could be worse. And it could always get better too.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 03:21 PM
^I feel you ladies. I literally depend on the few regulars I have. I've struggled so hard lately to even log in. In the couple months Ive been on SM now I've had a hard time gaining any new regulars. So many ins and outs and no talking hardly at all. If they do they're just bullshittin. Literally after 20 minutes of logging in I have to press the Pause button and go smoke. I get sooo impatient just sitting there with zero interaction. :/

Depending on regulars sucks big time. I am not even happy when I see them anymore, because I know what they want, I dont even like them that much, and it really wares me out having to act according to this ”relationship” that we are suposed to have. But you are still new on SM, and well, after all, every new day can bring a new returning member. It takes time. Speaking of regs, one of them just asked for a refund today after almost 14 minutes of pvt, because he was having tech issues. Not my fault for them , he did get to watch me perform too, but his cam was not working and he got kiked out a few times. So I will probably lose the $, even tho they did ask for my side of the story and checked my room to see how is working. Anyway, what I am saying is that regs fucking suck sometimes, but that s how it is. Try not to stress too much about it. In the end, it will be ok.

AlexiaJacobs
12-07-2019, 03:29 PM
Depending on regulars sucks big time. I am not even happy when I see them anymore, because I know what they want, I dont even like them that much, and it really wares me out having to act according to this ”relationship” that we are suposed to have. But you are still new on SM, and well, after all, every new day can bring a new returning member. It takes time. Speaking of regs, one of them just asked for a refund today after almost 14 minutes of pvt, because he was having tech issues. Not my fault for them , he did get to watch me perform too, but his cam was not working and he got kiked out a few times. So I will probably lose the $, even tho they did ask for my side of the story and checked my room to see how is working. Anyway, what I am saying is that regs fucking suck sometimes, but that s how it is. Try not to stress too much about it. In the end, it will be ok.

You are totally right, regs can suck. I have one in particular that really annoys me. And he spends a lot of money. I've been waiting for his expiration to hit lol. And it is exhausting having to play that "role" when they come into the room. But I am grateful for them. I wish it were easier to get more random privates throughout the shift too. If I do get a random guy its usually a short ass show. It'd be nice for a bunch spread throughout the shift though

KatM
12-07-2019, 03:46 PM
Speaking of regs, one of them just asked for a refund today after almost 14 minutes of pvt, because he was having tech issues. Not my fault for them , he did get to watch me perform too, but his cam was not working and he got kiked out a few times. So I will probably lose the $, even tho they did ask for my side of the story and checked my room to see how is working.

On what site u had this situation?! ImLive? SM wont refund members and we protected from refunds/ chargebacks anyway, maybe in exceptional cases SM will keep a model's money-> heavy cases where the model blackmailed or manipulated the member for real (out of a roleplay game) to get more money, so on but i guess these cases are extremely rare.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 03:53 PM
On what site u had this situation?! ImLive? SM wont refund members and we protected from refunds/ chargebacks anyway, maybe in exceptional cases SM will keep a model's money-> heavy cases where the model blackmailed or manipulated the member for real (out of a roleplay game) to get more money, so on but i guess these cases are extremely rare.

On ImLive. I had no such issues before, and they did come in to check my room(it was working fine), and asked for my side of the story. I will see how it goes. I dont think I will do shows for that guy tho. Tech issues can occur, we are on the internet after all, but this level of cheapness really is disgusting to me. Especially since he did a total of 14 minutes, so why did he come back and staid in my room if he was not happy about it? I dont think I need this type of regulars in my life lol This one just expired.

Ms_Kristen
12-07-2019, 04:08 PM
I rarely go there, they do not inspire me either, And frankly the Camming Rocks thread are just a highlight of a cam girls life. Like when people only share the good things in their lives on Facebook or Instagram.. They never share the ugliness or how hard their lives are.

We are made to believe that camming is all about glamour, and expensive outfits, and crazy $, and that is why so many of us feel like shit for not ”living the dream”. Even if we ve been at it for years and we know how it really works, we still feel like that when we see all the glamour stuff, perfect women in perfect outfits, camming from perfect rooms. Where everything looks shiny and expensive. We know how it really is when the cams are turned off. We know that very few of the models make huge amounts of $, and that it is mostly luck when they do. The real camming experience is what we go through every day, not all that glitter. Being a top earning model in a studio is rough. And it does not last. And the girls who do make lots of $ from home....good for them, but even they have lots of shitty days too, and it can always turn around. I ve had shitty days(many), and I ve had good days that saved my ass(not so many, but still). I am gratefull for whatever I can make and I ve stopped looking at others. I might sound like a terrible person, but well, seing others make lots of $ when I cant even make minimum wage does not inspire me in any positive way.

KatM
12-07-2019, 04:49 PM
I guess people who post in there see us the ones in this thread or Sm vent tread i opened myself as Debbie Downers who'll eventually ruin their mood if they stepped in here.
Point is, everyone with it's own reality, if things work good for them i am glad they have a thread where they inspire each other same like here we support each other, it's the same coin that had two sides, the shiny one and the dusty one so to speak.
Same with the increase your rates thread, i can increase it all the way up if members wont pay ME that rate cause not all of us look the same, have the same talent or are from the same place or are all native English speakers and so on.
For example i dont do phone or talk much because i am not confident my accent is pleasant for them, i saw gorgeous girls talking with such bad English and accent that for me as a performer myself it was a huge turn off, i can only imagine what a new horny guy feels when he hears that and it does not sound good to his ear, not to talk about his dick, instant hard on killer.

XSelinex
12-07-2019, 05:06 PM
I guess people who post on there see us the ones in this thread or Sm vent tread i opened myself as Debbie Downers who'll eventually ruin their mood if they stepped in here.
Point is, everyone with it's own reality, if things good work for them i am glad they have a thread where they inspire each other same like here we support each other, it's the same coin that had two sides, the shiny one and the dusty one so to speak.
Same with the increase your rates thread, i can increase it all the way up if members wont pay ME that rate cause not all look the same, don't have the same talent, not from the same place, not all native English speakers and so on.
For example i dont do phone or talk much because i am not confident my accent is pleasant for them, i saw gorgeous girl talking with such bad English and accent that for me a performer myself was a huge turn off, i can only imagine what a new horny guys feels when he hears that and it does not sound good to his ear, not to talk about his dick, instant hard on killer.

I post here and there somethimes. I started today ill with huge temperature, sat half of hour on SM in silence where is nobody coming, turn off cam and burst with tears, tried Xmodels, 2 guests come in and out for half of hour, no traffic for a new model as all and I might give up for today, first hours were too bad, but I returned on SM with smiles and teasing with talking to myself in empty room and stayed on until I had paying trafic in my room. About accent I have some, they think it`s so sexy when girl can talk instead just type and shows her personality, and terrible accept they call sexy too lol.

anonymous camgirl
12-07-2019, 05:40 PM
I see camming as a means to end.. just a stepping stone to get to the next level.. I gave up on it back in 2010 .. I knew I would never really make more.. I spent like 7 yrs being so frustrated.. .. and I would constantly say no matter what I look like or do it's still the same paycheck at the end of the year.. and boy have I tried it all.. and guess what? I literally make the same income since 2003... And I have been everything!.. Porn star, viral videos, camming for almost 2 decades, Fat, thin, blonde, redhead, brunette, different accents, different personalities, submissive, dominant.. jill of all trades.. and the end of the year I made the same amount of money.. So I gave up and started finding other ways to increase my net worth and see camming for what it is.. a JOB. Can't wait to quit.. I wasted a lot of energy trying to be a six figure camgirl and I could never do it.. Not more than 2 weeks. And I had wished I would have put that kind of energy into another career.. we are talking blood sweat and tears and many hours of working 7 days a week never stopping... I should have been a millionaire from it all.


We are made to believe that camming is all about glamour, and expensive outfits, and crazy $, and that is why so many of us feel like shit for not ”living the dream”. Even if we ve been at it for years and we know how it really works, we still feel like that when we see all the glamour stuff, perfect women in perfect outfits, camming from perfect rooms. Where everything looks shiny and expensive. We know how it really is when the cams are turned off. We know that very few of the models make huge amounts of $, and that it is mostly luck when they do. The real camming experience is what we go through every day, not all that glitter. Being a top earning model in a studio is rough. And it does not last. And the girls who do make lots of $ from home....good for them, but even they have lots of shitty days too, and it can always turn around. I ve had shitty days(many), and I ve had good days that saved my ass(not so many, but still). I am gratefull for whatever I can make and I ve stopped looking at others. I might sound like a terrible person, but well, seing others make lots of $ when I cant even make minimum wage does not inspire me in any positive way.

KatM
12-07-2019, 06:50 PM
I post here and there somethimes. I started today ill with huge temperature, sat half of hour on SM in silence where is nobody coming, turn off cam and burst with tears, tried Xmodels, 2 guests come in and out for half of hour, no traffic for a new model as all and I might give up for today, first hours were too bad, but I returned on SM with smiles and teasing with talking to myself in empty room and stayed on until I had paying traffic in my room. About accent I have some, they think it`s so sexy when girl can talk instead just type and shows her personality, and terrible accept they call sexy too lol.

Sure, u post where it fits to you depending on how good or bad u doing. I maybe posted in there two times when i was doing very good myself but when i found this forum back in 2012 i was already on decline on SM after they in 2011 started the gold shows that bought my decline actually.
I am glad u made ur money and u should post wherever it fits to u, what i am saying is, i am not a 'regular' of that thread, i fit more in here cause i only cam on SM who is not working for me as i wish to, is just a matter of surviving not thriving for many years now and lately i have no motivation to get online anymore so i wanna try another site but keep SM too, will see how i manage them both, one at a time or split if possible.
People with more sources of income has higher chances to make more if they run different cam sites, phone sites, content and so on, they all add up.
For me, this is the maximum i can do, i have limited energy level, knowledge, talent/looks and equipment.

Holly_xoxo
12-07-2019, 07:54 PM
I know people say stay out of this thread and get your motivation from camming rocks but that thread actually depresses me even more. Even though I'm happy those girls are killing it and making hundreds within a couple hours. It breaks me knowing I can cam for 6 hours straight and maybe make a dollar. It makes me question everything about myself and hate the way I look even more.

I've heard people say to stay off this thread too but it's still the one I'm most thankful for. I can relate to the posts in here and you all can relate to mine. The camming rocks thread is very demotivating for me. I look at the numbers some are making and then look at the small amount I make in comparison and it makes me feel bad. I think I've posted in the rocks thread a handful of times but normally I don't say anything in there even when I have a good day because me having a good day where I make more than I thought I would and the guys were fun doesn't mean camming as a whole, rocks. It still sucks ass....Lol

Bananabunny
12-08-2019, 01:04 AM
I've heard people say to stay off this thread too but it's still the one I'm most thankful for. I can relate to the posts in here and you all can relate to mine. The camming rocks thread is very demotivating for me. I look at the numbers some are making and then look at the small amount I make in comparison and it makes me feel bad. I think I've posted in the rocks thread a handful of times but normally I don't say anything in there even when I have a good day because me having a good day where I make more than I thought I would and the guys were fun doesn't mean camming as a whole, rocks. It still sucks ass....Lol

I agree with this whenever I come here I can vent and feel better and it also shows me that I'm not alone and other girls are having struggles and fighting for a better future. Despite this thread being allegedly so "negative" I feel encouraged to try harder and stay the fuck on when its slow. It isn't just pure negativity around here.

KatM
12-08-2019, 04:54 AM
I see camming as a means to end.. just a stepping stone to get to the next level.. I gave up on it back in 2010 .. I knew I would never really make more.. I spent like 7 yrs being so frustrated.. .. and I would constantly say no matter what I look like or do it's still the same paycheck at the end of the year.. and boy have I tried it all.. and guess what? I literally make the same income since 2003... And I have been everything!.. Porn star, viral videos, camming for almost 2 decades, Fat, thin, blonde, redhead, brunette, different accents, different personalities, submissive, dominant.. jill of all trades.. and the end of the year I made the same amount of money.. So I gave up and started finding other ways to increase my net worth and see camming for what it is.. a JOB. Can't wait to quit.. I wasted a lot of energy trying to be a six figure camgirl and I could never do it.. Not more than 2 weeks. And I had wished I would have put that kind of energy into another career.. we are talking blood sweat and tears and many hours of working 7 days a week never stopping... I should have been a millionaire from it all.

Very much the same here, i started in 2001, i been young, slim, curvy, thick, had all hair colors and style and did my best to succeed as a cam girl but what i got was, an average income that never went above a certain amount per year, i tried all cam sites that accepted me and tried content sites too and all these did not bring the success i expected and wanted; i had good periods when i did very good mixed with bad and very bad times on cam but never extraordinary, i did not get rich camming.

I had a cam girl friend that literally got rich, she was older than me by two years but looked like a kid, it helped her a lot plus she had stamina to cam long hrs, no responsibilities compared to me who needed to raise a kid all by myself while camming and hiding it at 1st, conclusion is she had all the advantages while i had all the disadvantages not to mention family visits and family related issues that kept me away from work many times.

My conclusion is, in my case, i feel i dont have the divine right to make more cause i have no other explanation here.
If u guys believe or dont believe in God, it does not matter, call it the laws of the universe. Law of attraction is not proven to work same like God cant be proven to exist but we wonder, why some people succeed while not doing extraordinary efforts while others dont get the success they want while doing extreme efforts to get there?! Cause hard work should be rewarded, right? Which is not always happening not only with camming but any other line of work.
For the Christians there is mentioned the divine right in money in the holy scripts.

If u ask me i believe what christian religion says that "everybody has a divine right in money", no matter if u believe in God or what religion u follow, is the same law of the universe, if it's not meant for a person to be rich or succeed in something it'll not happen, yes u can reach certain goals but not the high goal u desire soo much.
Some people got sick and died in the process or died right after they found that success and this because they put soo much effort into getting there that they got depleted, soo many cases with celebrities but alot more with ordinary people nobody heard about but close family & friends. I was very close to getting really sick, my cells had atypia when i had biopsy done, luckily i caught that on time and had surgery, i am healthy now.

Since i understood this concept that i might, for some reason, not be allowed to have that level of success on cam i decided to just not torture myself anymore and be grateful for what i can make.
This does not mean to become lazy or not to look for new opportunities, it means to accept what is obvious.
Maybe there is another path for me one day same like Sha decided for another career, right now that's what i have to work with but if something better comes up my way i'll go for it, if not i'll try to do my best on cam same like til now.

Wish u all a beautiful sunday!

anonymous camgirl
12-08-2019, 08:47 AM
Very much the same here, i started in 2001, i been young, slim, curvy, thick, had all hair colors and style and did my best to succeed as a cam girl but what i got was, an average income that never went above a certain amount per year, i tried all cam sites that accepted me and tried content sites too and all these did not bring the success i expected and wanted; i had good periods when i did very good mixed with bad and very bad times on cam but never extraordinary, i did not get rich camming.

I had a cam girl friend that literally got rich, she was older than me by two years but looked like a kid, it helped her a lot plus she had stamina to cam long hrs, no responsibilities compared to me who needed to raise a kid all by myself while camming and hiding it at 1st, conclusion is she had all the advantages while i had all the disadvantages not to mention family visits and family related issues that kept me away from work many times.

My conclusion is, in my case, i feel i dont have the divine right to make more cause i have no other explanation here.
If u guys believe or dont believe in God, it does not matter, call it the laws of the universe. Law of attraction is not proven to work same like God cant be proven to exist but we wonder, why some people succeed while not doing extraordinary efforts while others dont get the success they want while doing extreme efforts to get there?! Cause hard work should be rewarded, right? Which is not always happening not only with camming but any other line of work.
For the Christians there is mentioned the divine right in money in the holy scripts.

If u ask me i believe what christian religion says that "everybody has a divine right in money", no matter if u believe in God or what religion u follow, is the same law of the universe, if it's not meant for a person to be rich or succeed in something it'll not happen, yes u can reach certain goals but not the high goal u desire soo much.
Some people got sick and died in the process or died right after they found that success and this because they put soo much effort into getting there that they got depleted, soo many cases with celebrities but alot more with ordinary people nobody heard about but close family & friends. I was very close to getting really sick, my cells had atypia when i had biopsy done, luckily i caught that on time and had surgery, i am healthy now.

Since i understood this concept that i might, for some reason, not be allowed to have that level of success on cam i decided to just not torture myself anymore and be grateful for what i can make.
This does not mean to become lazy or not to look for new opportunities, it means to accept what is obvious.
Maybe there is another path for me one day same like Sha decided for another career, right now that's what i have to work with but if something better comes up my way i'll go for it, if not i'll try to do my best on cam same like til now.

Wish u all a beautiful sunday!

I believe same as you, but I believe if you have tried every avenue possible and nothing works , It is NOT meant for you. You are to look in a new direction. Camming is not your fate. But I have thought for a long time. if you are a single mom trying to cam you do have a lot more stress and less creativity and advantages to you.
If you see married cammers or cammers in relationships they are far more successful than the single moms. That's my observation. And NO it's not fair.. Men would rather spend money on the girls who have more advantages than the disadvantaged. And that's how it is in the real world.. the bank doesn't give you a loan unless you don't need one.

KatM
12-08-2019, 09:04 AM
Totally agree except i see camming as my bad fate aka Karma and for now i am stuck with it til i pay what i have to pay if this concept is even real, some say it is.

Eta: all the cam model friends i had that did great on cam were all happy married or in good relationships and no kids so they were able to dedicate all their resources to camming and yes, their creativity was at a higher level cause there was nothing to distract them, were also pretty healthy

Ms_Kristen
12-08-2019, 10:24 AM
Dont know where you girls are from, but where I am from minimum wage sucks. I could not make a decent living if I were to have a ”normal” job. I dont have hight expectations, but I do want to be able to take care of my rescued pets and live a decent life too. With less then 400 $ a month, I would not be able to do that. So camming is my only chance at a decent life. I ve been at it for over 8 years. I applied for jobs a couple of weeks ago, and I just had to give up. I can not ”afford” a vanilla job. Some of you girls have been in the business for even longer, so you get my point. As much as it can suck, camming is still, for many of us, the only way to live at least decent, and clearly better the others do. And yes, it is consuming. It has taken a lot from me, not just in matter of time spent in front of the cam, but in how it makes me feel. How shitty and worthless I feel when I am not making it happen. When no matter how many hours I work, I just dont make it. When I look at other models(long time since I did that tho, I no longer enter other models cams) and I think they rock, while I look like a tired housewife. Telling myself I dont belong in this business, and that I should quit before I completely fuck up. But overall, I am grateful that I can do it. Grateful to be able to take care of what really matters to me.

Ms_Kristen
12-08-2019, 10:30 AM
LOL I just realised that even in my best days, I could not go post in ”Camming rocks”. My best days are the days where I make over 100. If I go near 200, I am damn happy. I guess that amount is suitable for ”camming sucks”, for the girls who live in that thread :)

seicento
12-08-2019, 10:57 AM
Dont know where you girls are from, but where I am from minimum wage sucks. I could not make a decent living if I were to have a ”normal” job. I dont have hight expectations, but I do want to be able to take care of my rescued pets and live a decent life too. With less then 400 $ a month, I would not be able to do that. So camming is my only chance at a decent life. I ve been at it for over 8 years. I applied for jobs a couple of weeks ago, and I just had to give up. I can not ”afford” a vanilla job. Some of you girls have been in the business for even longer, so you get my point. As much as it can suck, camming is still, for many of us, the only way to live at least decent, and clearly better the others do. And yes, it is consuming. It has taken a lot from me, not just in matter of time spent in front of the cam, but in how it makes me feel. How shitty and worthless I feel when I am not making it happen. When no matter how many hours I work, I just dont make it. When I look at other models(long time since I did that tho, I no longer enter other models cams) and I think they rock, while I look like a tired housewife. Telling myself I dont belong in this business, and that I should quit before I completely fuck up. But overall, I am grateful that I can do it. Grateful to be able to take care of what really matters to me.

Same here. I could not survive with the pay from a regular job. And as much as camming sucks, with a regular job I could never afford to pay vet visits and treatments for my cats. Or my bills. I'm a low earner and always will be, while the sites I work prefer natives and studios, as an independent foreigner chances to rise and shine are very low. Plus, I'm not that lucky. But even with low earnings, I still make more than I'd make with a regular job so camming isn't that bad.

KatM
12-08-2019, 12:12 PM
In the western countries people choose to cam because they like it not because it's the only decent option but here in eastern Europe we choose to cam because this is an opportunity to earn a decent living compared to the salaries we have here, compared to minimum wages here i am doing decent and if i did not have this option i could not have done it and raise my kid on my own so yeah, different locations, different opportunities and different reasoning.

seicento
12-08-2019, 12:42 PM
Another shitty sunday, especially on SM. I'm about to fall asleep on cam. My shift is about to end and I didn't even make low goal today. Meh.

webcamcutie
12-08-2019, 12:43 PM
Making less than minimum wage today online (3hrs deep already) and paying for babysitting at the same time and its Sunday. I'm literally prob going to end my 5hr shift at negative money, I love working 5hrs for free! LOL. Whelp. I smell a BFF contest brewing the week after this one - calling it here first!

DahliaSimone
12-08-2019, 01:01 PM
2 hours on and an entire $1.38 made. Im tired af, overstressed that i wont make bills and Christmas, and kinda pissy that this is how what is usually my best day is going.

MilfSM
12-08-2019, 02:34 PM
Making less than minimum wage today online (3hrs deep already) and paying for babysitting at the same time and its Sunday. I'm literally prob going to end my 5hr shift at negative money, I love working 5hrs for free! LOL. Whelp. I smell a BFF contest brewing the week after this one - calling it here first!

Sadly when you called it I remembered it could be my last contest ever seeing as how I'm in California and the laws are changing Jan 1:-\

NitaBaby
12-08-2019, 03:09 PM
is today any good ya'll?

i'm getting strong "stay offline and watch spiderman 3" vibes.

anonymous camgirl
12-08-2019, 03:21 PM
I don't think so , so I took the opportunity to raise my pvt rates, tip rates and video rates..lol


is today any good ya'll?

i'm getting strong "stay offline and watch spiderman 3" vibes.

DahliaSimone
12-08-2019, 03:42 PM
Sadly when you called it I remembered it could be my last contest ever seeing as how I'm in California and the laws are changing Jan 1:-\

Actually, we should be getting our Christmas bonus week the week after this one. Or somewhere around there.

WendiStarr
12-08-2019, 04:17 PM
Made a whole 1 token on MFC after 2 hours. I'm about to give up on MFC, too many zero token beggars. It's not worth it for me to sign on there anymore except for when one of my spenders there messages me whenever he's on and wants to buy a show.

XSelinex
12-08-2019, 05:26 PM
is today any good ya'll?

i'm getting strong "stay offline and watch spiderman 3" vibes.

It was just terrible Sunday, I haven't hit even half of low goal.

anonymous camgirl
12-08-2019, 05:45 PM
WTF is wrong with SM tonite?? I made more money on CB for god's sakes and literally on any other token site was better than SM

SapphireXO
12-09-2019, 08:51 AM
LOL I just realised that even in my best days, I could not go post in ”Camming rocks”. My best days are the days where I make over 100. If I go near 200, I am damn happy. I guess that amount is suitable for ”camming sucks”, for the girls who live in that thread :)

With the amount of hours you are working, I would highly encourage you to work smarter not harder/longer. $20/hr is not too much to aim for IMO. I'd highly suggest you start reading the forums on having multiple eggs so you don't have to work the 60-75 hours a week you are working currently for that low of income. Too exhausting.

izshadow
12-09-2019, 09:31 AM
I've been gone a few days due to a massive migraine but I need to get my butt back in gear today. I'm so glad what I posted was felt by so many others. This thread is my support group for sure haha. It truly keeps me going knowing I'm not alone and how we can still life each other up even in our darkest times. As much as camming sucks, I cant work a vanilla job either. I'm in the US but the cost of living outweighs any minimum wage job. Plus major health issues makes it near impossible to leave the house. No matter how much camming sucks, its all I have and can do.

KazyK
12-09-2019, 11:10 AM
What do you have planned? What are you now putting your all into? I feel I need to find another stream of income as well.

KazyK
12-09-2019, 11:12 AM
I feel you yesterday had me in tears.

webcamcutie
12-09-2019, 11:54 AM
Another day I'm not only working for free (because I have to pay babysitting $$ for this shift) but I'll actually end up OWING money for working 3.5hrs this morning. Coooool. my favorite!

Bananabunny
12-10-2019, 02:09 AM
Now that christmas is approaching it really gets dead...........I'm so glad I'm having surgery on thursday. Can take a few days up to a week off from that bullshit! Camming sucks the most around holidays for me cuz I barely get gifts by my customers (this year probably none again like last year) and on top of that we don't have paid vacations! So I'm extra moody this year. Also my best friend leaves for a 3 month language exchange now I have no one to go out regularly with anymore until March...my other friends live far away and train here like everything else is costly af

NitaBaby
12-10-2019, 03:12 AM
Now that christmas is approaching it really gets dead...........I'm so glad I'm having surgery on thursday. Can take a few days up to a week off from that bullshit! Camming sucks the most around holidays for me cuz I barely get gifts by my customers (this year probably none again like last year) and on top of that we don't have paid vacations! So I'm extra moody this year. Also my best friend leaves for a 3 month language exchange now I have no one to go out regularly with anymore until March...my other friends live far away and train here like everything else is costly af


I almost made a post yesterday asking how your surgery went but was like “maybe she hasn’t had it yet. give it two more weeks.”

so excited for you.

izshadow
12-10-2019, 01:28 PM
Hour and a half in and zero made. I dont know why I keep signing in to SM. Update... 2.5 hours and only one $10 buck tip for a titty flash. I think I want to go redo my windows now that a panel came in. This stress is just making me feel so sick to my stomach.

CMD is full of duds but I stay signed in and usually average two shows a month from there. NF is so hit or miss. Some weeks are great and some my phone never rings. I also took away their ability to buy my Skype ID beforehand to eliminate time wasters and those looking for free chat so I'm sure that is part of it. Even if I put down to not contact me on Skype, they would anyways and it just ended up putting me in a foul mood. So now if you want to do a show with me, you can call me and take 30 seconds out of your time to type in my Skype ID before our cams connect.

magicgembliss
12-10-2019, 07:33 PM
I've heard people say to stay off this thread too but it's still the one I'm most thankful for. I can relate to the posts in here and you all can relate to mine. The camming rocks thread is very demotivating for me. I look at the numbers some are making and then look at the small amount I make in comparison and it makes me feel bad.

Dude. I made $12 on SM today after streaming 1 hr:33 despite still being on page 1 for most of that. COuldn't get anyone to chat with me either, much weirder than usual crowd.

And I would think it was me except that I began to move UP in placement. That means others were also making $0 for LONGER than I was.

I split cam and always make enough to get by even on the rare slow days though. Today a VERY bad, slow, full-of-jerks day and $107 in 6 hours but I'm still going! Try split camming!