View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
DahliaSimone
01-27-2020, 03:48 PM
Where is everyone today? Monday is always a better day for me but SM is a veritable ghost town today.......
Miss_ShaSha
01-27-2020, 03:56 PM
You got this, Sha! Nothing can stop you when that stubbornness comes out. Yeesh! that stubbornness lol
Haha, oh shit! I'm a glutton for punishment. I think it's my fetish LOLOL. Thanks Sis. The encouragement helps heaps.
And I'm glad your vanilla job is going well. It was brave to step away from camming...and FUCK you're doing the damn thing!!!
SM is in coma! Buhaha! LOL
izshadow
01-28-2020, 01:42 PM
Everytime I try to move away from SM, I get sucked right back in because where ever I ran to, failed. As much as I hate that damn site, its like the only simplistic, straight forward, sign in and go website that I have found that even my pets can figure out with no thumbs.
andreaxchanel
01-28-2020, 02:08 PM
Yo, wtf s up with SM the past few days?? I literally can't take it anymore. Feeling like I just need to take the rest of the week off and let the end of the month get the hell on. I CAN'T TAKE IT LOL!
Miss_ShaSha
01-28-2020, 02:16 PM
Everytime I try to move away from SM, I get sucked right back in because where ever I ran to, failed. As much as I hate that damn site, its like the only simplistic, straight forward, sign in and go website that I have found that even my pets can figure out with no thumbs.
LMFAO sister...you're funny. It's good to see your sense of humor although I'm pretty sure you're peeved about how slow it is. I'm taking today off. It's notoriously bad for me, but yesterday was supposed to be good. I started at 7am, took some breaks and covered shifts from 7-10am, 12-2pm, and 3-6pm...BAD all damn day. It's not you. Hang in there. KEEP HANGING!!!
Yo, wtf s up with SM the past few days?? I literally can't take it anymore. Feeling like I just need to take the rest of the week off and let the end of the month get the hell on. I CAN'T TAKE IT LOL!
SM bein a lil bitch right about now. It ain't you. I feel you Sis...hang in there. Get on Giphy and look at all the silly stuff to pass the time. It truly helps to alleviate the frustration I feel when it's so damn slow.
andreaxchanel
01-28-2020, 02:32 PM
I'm down about it because I was really focused on being consistent with cam this year and quit my side hustle of Ubering going into the new year. I was soooo proud of myself to have quit and now I literally have to take the next 5 days and Uber myself a car payment/laptop back after I get a loan on it because this single mommy has no savings (my fault for dating an abusive baby daddy that wouldn't let me work cuz now I'm in a hole)! The optimist in me says that I need to just be proud that I have the option to still work in some form and provide for my son and myself, but I'm disappointed to feel like I'm going backwards....it's only 5 days right? If I find the positives in it, it won't be hard...right? LOL getting through things like this is so hard with mental health disorders. So much for my meditation and 55x5 this week in regards to cam.
PixiieGirl
01-28-2020, 02:32 PM
8 hours online - 3 and a half streaming, and Ive made $45
fuck Im so screwed this week. at least Ive got some stuff filmed I guess
andreaxchanel
01-28-2020, 03:07 PM
Lol wow, I spazzed out. I literally have to make $47 dollars a day for the next 3 days. I knowwww I can do this!
LullaBelle
01-28-2020, 04:18 PM
Hmm... I am regretting my thought of, 'Work all week because the Superbowl is coming on Sunday'. Online for an hour with no tips, no shows, nadda.
I popped in to a few other models rooms and the site (Streamate) has been doing that black screen of death with a reload sign to several of them.
If they are doing site maintenance, I wish they would give us a heads up so we could be more aware and be a little more patient with the users :(
NitaBaby
01-28-2020, 05:11 PM
I popped in to a few other models rooms and the site (Streamate) has been doing that black screen of death with a reload sign to several of them.
If they are doing site maintenance, I wish they would give us a heads up so we could be more aware and be a little more patient with the users :(
Morning shifts are always garbage for me but the number of issues I was having convinced me that the site was having issues. It was really fucking bad. My stream dropped at least 4 times - once during an exclv show. My stream stats were yellow asf. Just ridiculous. Got $20 bucks and an OF subscriber and that's it smh.
Ladybuggie
01-29-2020, 06:14 AM
I was beating myself up for not getting online enough this week and giving up after 2 hours of deadness on 2 consecutive days, but if it has been THIS shit everywhere for so many people, it makes me feel a bit better. Now we just hang in there until they all get paid, and we'll be fine. Jeez, end of January sucks.
PixiieGirl
01-29-2020, 06:58 AM
I was beating myself up for not getting online enough this week and giving up after 2 hours of deadness on 2 consecutive days, but if it has been THIS shit everywhere for so many people, it makes me feel a bit better. Now we just hang in there until they all get paid, and we'll be fine. Jeez, end of January sucks.
so I was doing a part time job that I quit, I got my pay 20th December then the next one wouldnt be till 31st Jan, so I guess a lot of people will be skint. That plus all the bloody tech issues its no wonder its so bad!
ravenskyy
01-29-2020, 11:26 AM
I quit! I'm so done with streamate. I'm so sick of camming. I'm bored. I'm lonely. I'm depressed. I'm not making any money. I'm being treated like shit for no reason. I'm sick and tired of it all. I don't know if it's just day shift, but the last 2 weeks have been awful. I can't even take an hour of this crap. Fuck this shit!!!!! I'M OUT!!!
I quit! I'm so done with streamate. I'm so sick of camming. I'm bored. I'm lonely. I'm depressed. I'm not making any money. I'm being treated like shit for no reason. I'm sick and tired of it all. I don't know if it's just day shift, but the last 2 weeks have been awful. I can't even take an hour of this crap. Fuck this shit!!!!! I'M OUT!!!
I feel for you, i would advice anyone that wants to quit and has options to just do it, camming in these conditions can be soo damaging, i feel it on my own skin, i fight depression and anxiety due to how bad it is for me lately, problem is with me i have no options for vanilla jobs and no other better camsite, i am a dinosaur in camming world lol
Good luck whatever u going to do there xx
andreaxchanel
01-29-2020, 02:10 PM
I SUPER freaked out yesterday after cam, but I realized I forgot one thing about this job. You literally will have bad weeks...months (God willing it stops after one month), but you will have trying times. I let myself fall into a trap mentally after going 3 hours with literally no shows/tips and the day before that making $15 in almost 5 hours. I realized that if I had a savings or busted my ass instead of just letting the slow times get to me, my weeks or months of not being as 'on it' as I normally am, wouldn't bother me half as much. Now today I will say, it's been fairly slow. $8 in 2 hours, but you know what. My low goal today is literally $38 and it's the end of the month. I don't expect greatness, but I'm noticing how I woke up optimistic today so much so that money opportunities have been popping up today via skype and regs who have no issue telling me they've fallen in love with my merely because I'm a pleasant person. Pleaseeeeee don't give up ( she says after going berserk yesterday LOL) if you really are done, I understand, but also in these times try to think about how much of a blessing this avenue of work can/has been. Also don't be discouraged in yourself, this damn SM has been glitching like crazy. I've had multiple ppl more often than not over the past week leave because of connection issues. Just do something that makes you happy and keep trying again.
anonymous camgirl
01-29-2020, 04:59 PM
Every blue moon I convince myself that a wah job would be far better than any day on cam. Apply at the usual companies and check the wah job boards. Get hired.
Then I get my vanilla paycheck lmao.
Camming spoils the shit out of you.
For those of us who have PTSD and just simply can't get on cam at all and spend days not making money , its good to know you have another income you can do til you can face the cam again.. ya know?
Sorceress
01-29-2020, 06:37 PM
January is usually the worst month ever, It's when I usually quit cammung because of how slow, and I regret. I've done it 3 years in a row and 2020 won't be another one. This year I will suck up to Streamate being so glitchy and low in traffic.
I haven't made a single dollar this month on Streamate. Took a week break and I returned to still 6-7 hrs daily with ZERO.
And you would think the month they get their name out at the AVN's, they would have their shit together.
So far, 2 hrs, empty camroom with notification sound going off but nobody showing. I will stay on! Can't give up!
^^^ Oh that is tough, soo many days and soo many hrs daily w.o a single $ made?! How can u manage that?!
I cam 2-2.5 hrs and if no business i log off cause i know it'll affect me a lot to keep staying on w.o making money.
The deadness & boredom are killing me and it shows on my face, after a while i cant stay on anymore but how determined u are to keep going, wow!
What are your rates?! You mentioned ur rates that's why i am asking.
Sorceress
01-29-2020, 08:43 PM
My rates are high, 8.99/9.99 never had any issues is just January is not for me.
My secret for staying so long is video games. With my new cam room set up I am can only play Switch until I finish my new cam room.
Time flies when you can get distracted.
From now on I will dedicate January for clip making and less time on cam. On to February pleasee:'(
BadBitch
01-29-2020, 09:45 PM
I'm down about it because I was really focused on being consistent with cam this year and quit my side hustle of Ubering going into the new year. I was soooo proud of myself to have quit and now I literally have to take the next 5 days and Uber myself a car payment/laptop back after I get a loan on it because this single mommy has no savings (my fault for dating an abusive baby daddy that wouldn't let me work cuz now I'm in a hole)! The optimist in me says that I need to just be proud that I have the option to still work in some form and provide for my son and myself, but I'm disappointed to feel like I'm going backwards....it's only 5 days right? If I find the positives in it, it won't be hard...right? LOL getting through things like this is so hard with mental health disorders. So much for my meditation and 55x5 this week in regards to cam.
Aw. I'm sorry. I started doing Uber as well.
andreaxchanel
01-29-2020, 10:14 PM
video games help soooooo much!
Blovely
01-29-2020, 10:32 PM
I feel for you, i would advice anyone that wants to quit and has options to just do it, camming in these conditions can be soo damaging, i feel it on my own skin, i fight depression and anxiety due to how bad it is for me lately, problem is with me i have no options for vanilla jobs and no other better camsite, i am a dinosaur in camming world lol
Good luck whatever u going to do there xx
Everyone is entitled to have their feeling and I'd never tell anyone how to feel however I do think that everyone has more than 1 option. There are always other options no matter what the situation is. IMO there's a solution to every problem. Due to the boom of the internet, digital media, social media there are def other options for a career and to make money besides going out and working a 9-5 or camming. IMO there should never be a reason to stay in a situation/environment that's toxic. I don't think there's any job that has the perks of camming but I do think that there are def other things that can provide some of the same perks. Staying self-employed I feel is the way to go and having the cushion of camming makes a transition to something else so much easier. With the amount of tutorials on Youtube, Udemy and other sites (lynda, pluralsight, teamtreehouse) I feel like anyone could find an alternate stream of income/career.
I'm honestly close to suicide as I'm in massive debts due to camming paying my bills barely and now as its super slow I have to lend money from my parents as a fucking 22 year old I feel so damn ashamed. These two things made my day today just worse. I hope I can retire as soon as I finish my diploma and find a job. I have lost the fun and desire to do camming a long time ago tbh. But this year starts out so bad that I really see no future for me in it anymore.
I feel like I'm starting to be an empty shell it really robbed me from wanting to experience love with men as I see through them quicker by now. Camming ruined a lot for me in the past few years.
Hugs. Camming for those of us who are struggling is definitely depressing. I'm not going to say think/be positive because it personally annoys me when people say that to me. Its like I know you're trying to help but please shut up. I will say though that we can do this gurl. We can make it out of this depressing state. Camming or pretty much any situation that a person doesn't want to be in feels like a trap. I feel like its impossible to escape camming and the debt that camming has put me in due it being so slow/dead. I get why people say camming is gonna get better but it hasn't done that and I am tired of and can not keep waiting for it to do that.
I'm trying to escape full-time camming but its not easy. However I'm not giving up because I'm not allowing this be my life, especially not for the rest of my life. I believe there's a happier and better life for those of us who are tired of and depressed with camming, I really do. This depressing state seems permanent but its not, its temporary. The rest of our life doesn't have to be like this.
I've come across these videos in the last month or so. I instantly thought of camming and the many of us who are struggling. The videos of course aren't cam related and some are a little long however the overall messages of each video really resonated with me. I figure I'd share them because I think they'll resonated with many here as well.
Starts at 12:40
https://youtu.be/oa9aO0OAJ0k?t=12m40s
Blovely
01-29-2020, 10:38 PM
Starts at 4:34
https://youtu.be/yAbxpRbyBso?t=4m34s
Blovely
01-29-2020, 10:39 PM
Starts at 3:03
https://youtu.be/hkQzkCeggJY?t=3m3s
Blovely
01-29-2020, 10:40 PM
Starts at 1:03
https://youtu.be/l1OkE3K6dP4?t=1m3s
Blovely
01-29-2020, 10:43 PM
I really wish we could post more than 1 video in a post because having to post these videos individually is annoying af.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSO3zoUGCEY&t=4s
Bananabunny
01-29-2020, 10:53 PM
Everyone is entitled to have their feeling and I'd never tell anyone how to feel however I do think that everyone has more than 1 option. There are always other options no matter what the situation is. IMO there's a solution to every problem. Due to the boom of the internet, digital media, social media there are def other options for a career and to make money besides going out and working a 9-5 or camming. IMO there should never be a reason to stay in a situation/environment that's toxic. I don't think there's any job that has the perks of camming but I do think that there are def other things that can provide some of the same perks. Staying self-employed I feel is the way to go and having the cushion of camming makes a transition to something else so much easier. With the amount of tutorials on Youtube and Udemy I feel like anyone could to find an alternate stream of income/career.
Hugs. Camming for those of us who are struggling is definitely depressing. I'm not going to say think/be positive because it personally annoys me when people say that to me. Its like I know you're trying to help but please shut up. I will say though that we can do this gurl. We can make it out of this depressing state. Camming or pretty much any situation that a person doesn't want to be in feels like a trap. I feel like its impossible to escape camming and the debt that camming has put me in due it being so slow/dead. I get why people say camming is gonna get better but it hasn't done that and I am tired of and can not keep waiting for it to do that.
I'm trying to escape full-time camming but its not easy. However I'm not giving up because I'm not allowing this be my life, especially not for the rest of my life. I believe there's a happier and better life for those of us who are tired of and depressed with camming, I really do. This depressing state seems permanent but its not, its temporary. The rest of our life doesn't have to be like this.
I've come across these videos in the last month or so. I instantly thought of camming and the many of us who are struggling. The videos of course aren't cam related and some are a little long however the overall messages of each video really resonated with me. I figure I'd share them because I think they'll resonated with many here as well.
Starts at 12:40
https://youtu.be/oa9aO0OAJ0k?t=12m40s
Thank you I know exactly what you mean these people telling me "think positive" usually are friends of mine who don't know I do camming so they are not aware how bad my situation really is.
I'm currently in a abusive household and trying to escape. I have messaged welfare and am trying to find a flat on my own where I can hopefully continue webcamming until I find a better option.
One of the reasons why I'm depressed is because I'm being emotionally abused by my parents for years now. Its been so bad lately as I've been trying to escape this household but I have massive debts so I'm still kind of dependent from my parents sadly but I'm trying to change that ASAP. If I must I will go to a social worker but last time I went there and told them I do sexwork they completely panicked and tried to put me into a psych ward. They didn't believe me that webcamming paid my bills a bit and thought I was a sex trafficking victim which is NOT true. Sadly in my country they always treat sexworkers like that hence why we try to not seek help from social workers. People in my country are too uneducated about sex work and make us feel worse than we already feel.
Sorry it turned out into a rant but I have taken a 5 days break form camming where I have been constantly thinking about my future and I have barely been eating I feel so sick. I was also screamed at by my parents multiple times for trying to seek financial aid outside of my family. They constantly threaten me and say things like "we did everything for you" and "you are so ungrateful other people have no parents" (tbh I would better be off without parents at this point!! as harsh as it sounds) and also the most used threat of them "you would be nothing without us" NO I would be better off without you. That household is the reason why I started taking drugs in the first place. Its really hard I'm feeling myself falling appart daily seeing some 12-15 year old looking like camgirls literally banking the entire month of January on Chaturbate meanwhile I sit here I made 500-800$ the entire month its so tiring. Sometimes I just think I'm too ugly and fat for this job.
^^^ Yes in some parts of the world things are not that easy, camming is something that will pay better than any other job I could find here cause I am getting US dollars for it that has good value here while another job will get me money in my currency which is a lot less. As slow as it is with camming I can make a decent amount working few hrs a nite.
In my country things are a lot different and to build an online career at 45 yo is not easy considering I am not native in English and have no knowledge, is hard to learn new things when older.
ETA: @Bananabunny, makes me sad to read u doing drugs there cause u emotionally abused by ur parents, i wonder what they do to u exactly if u ok to share. As a mom myself i wish to know what not to do to emotionally abuse my son as he lives with me still, we been thru very difficult times and he was affected by me being sick but i never intended to harm him in any way and is heartbreaking to read ur parents abuse u tho doing drugs or drinking is never a good solution. Be well.
NitaBaby
01-30-2020, 06:05 AM
For those of us who have PTSD and just simply can't get on cam at all and spend days not making money , its good to know you have another income you can do til you can face the cam again.. ya know?
preaching to the choir.
can'r really say much else without re-iterating my whole post again.
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-30-2020, 06:44 AM
I really wish we could post more than 1 video in a post because having post these individually is annoying af.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSO3zoUGCEY&t=4s
I love Peter, he's one of my favs. PotatoJet is good too if you're into cameras. I appreciate how fast he talks. Get's right to the point.
When I started my yt it was all over the place..it still is. At first I was afraid that I was being too broad and that would confuse people. But it didn't. I love what he says about stretching your creative muscle in this video.
caramelcraze
01-30-2020, 08:13 AM
Today has been crickets!
https://media0.giphy.com/media/11R5KYi6ZdP8Z2/giphy.gif
idk what's up with everyone because other than a couple short calls with regulars, it has been dead af. I even had time to make a 15 minute custom, edit it, and send it to the buyer. think i'll go to bed, get on cam early, and gear up for a much better night.
Sorceress
01-30-2020, 08:37 AM
Starts at 3:03
https://youtu.be/hkQzkCeggJY?t=3m3s
Some times I am watching on my ipad his cabin building videos while on cam. It is so relaxing and I want to do that someday. MY family used to have a log cabin and we lost once a family member passed away, so that's my big dream lol
A log cabin, two big fluffly dogs(I love newfies and samoyeds), and lots of hot chocolate lol
- - - -
Decided to start doing morning shifts again so I can fix my sleep pattern and still slow.Another camsite has been better for me but I can't splitcam until my I finish building my new pc.(sorry I'm so vague, I just don't like the feeling of being watched by SM, gosh I am so paranoid some times :( )
XSelinex
01-31-2020, 07:48 AM
2 Canadian golds for a hour online, sad sigh. I sat online earlier and no results at all.
samuimoon
01-31-2020, 12:47 PM
2 Canadian golds for a hour online, sad sigh. I sat online earlier and no results at all.
I get the feeling that most of the 'men' running around SM are either unemployed or in prison. They really need to clean house. Its ridiculous.
izshadow
01-31-2020, 12:55 PM
Guess I wont waste electricity and turn the living room light on. They can still see me enough with the overcast daylight coming in. I'm trying to remain positive. The other day I had to take my rabbit to the vet to get neutered. I woke up at 6am and had to drive 45 mins away to drop him off at 7:30am. The sun wasnt out, the fog was thick. I even got stuck in an accident on the way due to how thick the fog was. Imagine doing that every morning?!?! Sigh. Was nice to be home to and be able to give him his pain meds today to. I just wish we all could get a little something on here everyday. I wish we could come on and say I got my bills paid and bought a pizza! We all just want to live comfortable and have a little extra for that pizza or to go out and buy that cup of coffee with a friend. Rich is nice but I know us ladies in this thread just want some peace in our lives and the comfort of simply having our basic bills paid.
Midwest-Mistress
01-31-2020, 01:15 PM
I get the feeling that most of the 'men' running around SM are either unemployed or in prison. They really need to clean house. Its ridiculous.
Lmao I know the ones on in the afternoon are! I literally had a dude chilling in my room a few Months ago talking about he in prison, for what I don't remember... Using stolen CCs lol most he gave me was $15 tip between few weeks- a total of $15 within WEEKS, how generous of him. Like I wanted to give benefit of the doubt that he was playing & crossed fingers he'd be converted into a client but that was wishful thinking, he was nothing more than a negging ass scummy bum that ended up blocked LOL.
samuimoon
01-31-2020, 01:27 PM
Girl, the man spending all his commissary on you, must be love, lol
Guess I wont waste electricity and turn the living room light on. They can still see me enough with the overcast daylight coming in. I'm trying to remain positive. The other day I had to take my rabbit to the vet to get neutered. I woke up at 6am and had to drive 45 mins away to drop him off at 7:30am. The sun wasnt out, the fog was thick. I even got stuck in an accident on the way due to how thick the fog was. Imagine doing that every morning?!?! Sigh. Was nice to be home to and be able to give him his pain meds today to. I just wish we all could get a little something on here everyday. I wish we could come on and say I got my bills paid and bought a pizza! We all just want to live comfortable and have a little extra for that pizza or to go out and buy that cup of coffee with a friend. Rich is nice but I know us ladies in this thread just want some peace in our lives and the comfort of simply having our basic bills paid.
This exactly, i never wanted to get rich camming but have a comfortable life w.o worries that i wont have the basic needs covered and some extra for enjoying life. Is hard to even get that for some of us in here :(
PhatGirlDynomite!!!
01-31-2020, 01:43 PM
Lmao I know the ones on in the afternoon are! I literally had a dude chilling in my room a few Months ago talking about he in prison, for what I don't remember... Using stolen CCs lol most he gave me was $15 tip between few weeks- a total of $15 within WEEKS, how generous of him. Like I wanted to give benefit of the doubt that he was playing & crossed fingers he'd be converted into a client but that was wishful thinking, he was nothing more than a negging ass scummy bum that ended up blocked LOL.
Girl, the man spending all his commissary on you, must be love, lol
There's a guy following me on Instagram. He's bought a few clips in the past so I don't really mind when he sends me YT videos of old Usher songs. It's weird but funny. Finally I decided to take a deeper look at his Insta page and I noticed in most of them he's posing next to a toilet! Like huh, who does that? A prisoner that's who.
According to one of his post he's been in there for 19 years!!! Homie has a phone with apps and access to money. I've gotten phonesex calls from prison before but this is my first one to order custom clips.
As for daytime customers being unemployed..some of them perhaps. But it can be 11am and 11pm at the same time.
Miss_ShaSha
01-31-2020, 01:57 PM
Girl, the man spending all his commissary on you, must be love, lol
OMFG this...THIS made me laugh so goddamn hard. THANKS as it's so dead in my room. This brought life to my ass!!!
izshadow
01-31-2020, 02:04 PM
Ugh I hate peepers. Finally had a private come in and I didnt force him in to exculsive cause he wasnt requesting anything but for me to enjoy myself. Two peepers stopped by but left before they got charged. I feel peepers should be charged from the second they step in to a private. Only the first one who took you gets the option to dash out on you and not be charged before the site starts charging but everyone else must pay up.
^^^ I know right?! Empty room or in and outs and when u finally get a show is like all peepers wake up and come in to spy! Hate that myself!
NotANewGyal
02-01-2020, 12:54 AM
SM is super glitchy tonight which is making it slow. Grrr lol.
izshadow
02-01-2020, 09:43 AM
SM is super glitchy tonight which is making it slow. Grrr lol.
I gave up on SM last night due to that. The audio was the worst, it would take up to a minute for the audio to start when you entered a room. Guys wouldnt stick around waiting for your audio to work thats for sure. Bitrate was all over to and I would see girls pixel on and off who normally dont.
NitaBaby
02-01-2020, 02:22 PM
and this, class, is why i don't work on saturday's.
anonymous camgirl
02-01-2020, 02:32 PM
Today is worse than yesterday , I haven't had one pvt in 2 hours now. and just a handful of tips
izshadow
02-01-2020, 02:57 PM
I gave up after 2 hours and zero made on SM, CMD and NF. Going to shower, have dinner and sign back in to Indy as well as back on to my PSO lines. Even the TTM chat line was dead. Not sure if I'll try SM again later or not. Depends how the evening with Indy goes.
Cutie101
02-01-2020, 04:15 PM
Camming sucked. Yes, I have made my goal this month, but it sucked terriblky. It's been a freaking rollercoaster. 3 days in a row with $30- $60, then $600 day. Then again. Rinse and repeat. And that makes camming suck. Why it can't be fucking consistent?!?! It's irritating and mood swinging!!!
anonymous camgirl
02-01-2020, 04:19 PM
I gave up after 2 hours and zero made on SM, CMD and NF. Going to shower, have dinner and sign back in to Indy as well as back on to my PSO lines. Even the TTM chat line was dead. Not sure if I'll try SM again later or not. Depends how the evening with Indy goes.
What really sucks I feel I worked really hard , they were all so chatty I never got to sign on to any indy sites today.. they all just wasted my time and I played the ban cop all day like I am running a deranged daycare of sorts. .I feel really exhausted I didn't get one good pvt in almost 4 hours.. and I got a 48 second pvt on SM and a few tips ..