View Full Version : The General Purpose "Camming Sucks Right Now" Thread
AliceFun
01-15-2014, 08:17 AM
This week i made very little money & all from small pvt's, NONE of my regulars were around, it will make sense they pay CC bills or are out of money, i really hope it picks up, same like them we spent more during holidays & we need money to pay bills and keep going.
Glamourmilf
01-15-2014, 09:34 AM
Cheer up! Tomorrow is a full moon, so I would imagine that it will be great to cam then, plus guys get paid today,as mentioned above.
Melonie
01-15-2014, 10:03 AM
Do You think it's become slow because this is the week everyone got their bill from credit cards they used over the holidays?
I'll go 'out on a limb' and point out the following. Since the first of the year ...
- higher state taxes are taking a bigger bite out of lots of US webcam customer paychecks ( the first of which may be just now starting to show up for bi-weekly payrolls )
- higher health insurance costs ( or new IRS penalty tax for not having health insurance ) are in effect
- higher 2014 property tax bills have just arrived, or rent hikes are taking effect
- higher utility rates / bills are in effect
- unseasonably cold weather has increased heating bills
- for self-employed webcam customers, the 1st quarter estimated tax payment is due today ( true for self-employed camgirls as well )
- monthly payment bills on Christmas purchases are now starting to show up ( credit cards, Rent-A-Center, etc. )
- end of year statements on investment income are arriving ... allowing some webcam customers to calculate how much they'll have to pay in higher cap gains taxes
- high earning webcam customers who exceeded their maximum Social Security tax partway through last year now have to start paying SSI tax again
For better or worse, it seems that almost everything on the tax and 'necessary' spending side is rising, while almost everything on the 'paycheck' side is not !!! And, unfortunately for camgirls, spending money on paid webcam must take a lower priority with most paid webcam customers versus paying ( higher ) taxes and paying ( higher ) bills for 'necessary' spending items.
Admittedly, some of this involves 'one shot' deals in January ... such as paying down credit cards, the first quarter estimated tax payment, lump sum property tax payment etc. But much of this is going to recur every month ... such as higher tax rates, higher health insurance costs, higher utility rates, higher rent etc.
Thus, IMHO, I wouldn't expect to see any major change for the better until tax refund season arrives / heating bills start to fall off due to warmer weather in April. However, due to last November's US gov't budget impasse / shutdown, the IRS has already announced that 2014 tax return processing thus refunds will be delayed by a month.
miamia4me
01-15-2014, 12:39 PM
The new healthcare reform tax penalty will not affect your returns for 2013. We are required to ask about health insurance for information purposes only but any penalty assessed will not happen until you file your 2014 return. I work in a tax office.
Melonie
01-15-2014, 02:57 PM
The new healthcare reform tax penalty will not affect your returns for 2013
That is true ... but it WILL affect estimated tax filings from April 15th 2014 forward. Thus self-employed webcam customers ( and self-employed camgirls ) should already be setting aside the additional % to cover the new IRS penalty tax if they don't have health insurance ... since the penalty tax for not having health insurance for 3 consecutive months will hit on March 31st, and will continue to hit every quarter throughout 2014. And setting aside more money for taxes means less money available for spending on non-essential items like paid webcam ! But true enough that paycheck receiving 'employee' webcam customers won't really see the impact of the new IRS penalty tax until they file their 2014 tax returns in the spring of 2015 ( unless their employers have increased their paycheck tax withholding to cover the additional tax burden of the new IRS penalty tax, in which case they will be seeing smaller take-home paychecks right now ).
However, in the grand scheme of things, the new IRS penalty tax is a comparatively 'small potato' compared to other tax increases and other price increases for 'necessary' items that many paid webcam customers are now dealing with.
islandsoutherngirl
01-15-2014, 03:03 PM
Ugggh SM why must you hurt my feelings again today. Hoping it picks up here soon the closer we approach to the weekend.
anonymous camgirl
01-15-2014, 03:26 PM
I know what you mean!!.. I ended up tearing up and thinking I have no future and I will have to work 7 days a week the rest of my life... logged off cried my eyes out and got some wine...haven't felt the need to cry for quite awhile!
Ugggh SM why must you hurt my feelings again today. Hoping it picks up here soon the closer we approach to the weekend.
caramelDip
01-15-2014, 05:45 PM
wow! I'll just try again later
Smurfette
01-15-2014, 07:25 PM
Just made $12 in an hour.
I'm really kicking myself for being so lazy and never logging on during times when it's good/steady and I easily make $75+ an hour. You don't realize how sweet you have it until it's gone! :p
Countdown to panhandling... in 10... 9...
RaeRae
01-15-2014, 07:28 PM
2 bucks so far tonight. It's only been an hour, but a new reg just started having issues when trying to take me excl, Grr. He's rebooting as I pray that takes care of it and it's not sm's fault. That combined with my shittacular placement that isn't improving, I'm about to pull my hair our
MissQuirk
01-15-2014, 09:19 PM
I am SO OVER smart phones and windows 8 trying to sync everything
NO. I DON'T WANT THAT PICTURE OF MY BUTT ON FACEBOOK THANK YOU FOR THE KIND OFFER.
NO. I DON'T WANT TO SYNC MY TWITTER GODNOHELLNOPLEASENO. LITERALLY ANYTHING BUT THAT, PLEASE.
So terrifying and annoying and makes my life a big mess of paranoia and accidental overshares.
I don't care if people know what I do but I don't think my family members want to have it shoved in their virtual faces.
Stuff like this is making it SO hard to have privacy from anyone.
My google account with all my purchases on it is connected to an email that involves my real name, my phone wants to know what to call me. you are a robot you don't call me ANYTHIIIING.
Thanks for making this thread. My apologies for the capslock. >__>
Procrasturbator
01-15-2014, 09:26 PM
^ Yes, yes, so much yes! I don't even really do social media (personal or work related) but I still get paranoid as hell just with Google/Windows 8/my phone... Why must they try to sync everything :( :( :(
SarahTime
01-15-2014, 09:57 PM
In the past hour on streamate.... cannot reach anywhere reasonably close to my goal on a gold show, and no privates for 45 mins.... this is a new record low..... :(
Ms.Lacey
01-15-2014, 10:06 PM
I started camming in waves again instead of staying on for hours because it gets very depressing when you'er on for 2-3hrs and make what you normally make in 1hr. I go on and do a GS and a few pvts if I get them within 10min of my GS and leave if I don't get shit for 15min. This keeps me positive and worked in the past.
Monica_Lovely
01-16-2014, 12:26 AM
My landlords are doing some remodeling in my house, and the guys they hired to do it are SOOOOOOOOOOOO freaking slow I swear!! It's supposed to be going on for three weeks now and they are showing up at 7am and not leaving until almost 6pm every single day which is completely throwing off my camming schedule, and I freaking hate getting on at nights anyways!! They are really fucking up my mojo right about now! Then when I'm sleeping during the day, they come and knock on my bedroom door at least once an hour while I'm trying to sleep and they always have some stupid fucking excuse "Can you move your dog kennel??" "Your puppy is crying" No shit dipshit, she is a puppy and doesn't want to be in her kennel while she's sees people walking around and she's all cooped up. My puppy is a blue nose pit, so when I got up to get some water this morning this guy has the nerve to ask me "Would you mind leaving her collar and leash out so I can take her for walks when I get here in the morning??" Hell fucking no you can't! I don't know these guys from Tom Dick and Harry and now you're working on my place so you think you can take my dogs for walks and shit?? No hurry up and get the work done so I don't have to deal with you guys screwing up my camming schedule! Plus I take my dogs on multiple walks a day and they have a backyard they can run around in.
MissAnthrope
01-16-2014, 01:15 AM
Cripes... I must've gotten the full gambit today. Wednesday in January. The freeloaders were in full force. FIRST TEN MINUTES I get on cam a trans person comes in, tips a little and asks lots of questions about hormones, voice, and all these things. I take em seriously cause of course I like to help em out.
One of my Mods PMed me that this person was another model, and it turns out she'd been bullshitting me the entire time to steal my traffic. I was SO PISSED. Made me so angry. Then shortly after have this guy who like says to say a bunch of names of people watching me from his cam or some shit, tips 1 token. 5 cents, bah.
On top of that, loads of freeloaders or the quiet cheapskate custies with money. and at the end to top it all off had this person keep takin gme private and then cancelling it immediately. Probably trying to get a fuckign free show. Yeah.
Made $10 tonight. Officially at "Kill me now" level.
MissQuirk
01-16-2014, 01:52 AM
Men who come into my room and insult other models...that shit enrages me.
Dude has the audacity to say "I can say whatever I want, I spend to much to get in trouble"
We were having a perfectly normal convo, I mentioned I regularly creep ladies and tip, and it's easy to blow a paycheck on a beautiful girl! He asks my favorites, so I tell him. He proceeds to bad mouth a few.
GAH that makes me mad.
I ripped him a new bhole and blocked him.
Ugh. :< Made me want a group hug with my favorite ladies.
Rhiiannon
01-16-2014, 03:41 AM
It really bothers me how MFC has no report feature for members (and if there is, I can't find it). I hate the guys who come in and try to scam me (and of course other models) into "flashing their tits then I'll take you private" or "Show me X" *fake ___ has tipped you 1000 tokens picture*. I don't fall for it, but there's probably new models who do, and that pisses me off. You shouldn't be allowed to do shit like that. UGH. I was talking to another customer about it and he says he's seen models fall for it, which makes me just sad. I hate trickster assholes like that!
o0Pepper0o
01-16-2014, 09:38 AM
Lol ok I HATE blues [ premiums, you know guys who have at least one token in their bank] who think they're entitled to be total assholes because they "may" have tokens. I hav no problem banning blues or premiums so that's usually what I do in that scenerio...but fuck!! I hate that self entitled attitude of "she won't ban me because I might tip her!"
I DON'T WANT YOUR ASSHOLE JERK TOKENS!!!
Fitandpretty
01-16-2014, 11:51 AM
I hate when guys assume that I squirt. OMG!!! I'm so sick of that question especially since I have it stated in my profile that I don't. Even if I did I would save that action for my husband. Maybe I should just start pissing on these guys lol
audritwo
01-16-2014, 11:56 AM
I hate when I'm doing a gold show, and I have a bunch of people telling me to squirt.
WOMEN SQUIRT AND ORGASM ON COMMAND GUYS!
audritwo
01-16-2014, 12:00 PM
Also. I fucking hate that affiliate bot on SM. Post that link in my chat then bounces before I can ban.
SoloDesire
01-16-2014, 12:38 PM
Pardon my language...but fuck this. What a horrible week :(
ashley jane
01-16-2014, 12:41 PM
I hate when guys assume that I squirt. OMG!!! I'm so sick of that question especially since I have it stated in my profile that I don't. Even if I did I would save that action for my husband. Maybe I should just start pissing on these guys lol
I have no anal plastered everywhere and they still ask me!
Fitandpretty
01-16-2014, 12:53 PM
I have no anal plastered everywhere and they still ask me!
Haha even if you do anal, the guys ask " Got anything bigger BB?" Ugh I can't deal with them sometimes lol
Vlodina
01-16-2014, 01:06 PM
Also. I fucking hate that affiliate bot on SM. Post that link in my chat then bounces before I can ban.
I managed to ban one today, and felt an insane amount of happiness and self satisfaction. I almost hi fived myself. ;)
Fitandpretty
01-16-2014, 01:10 PM
25 bucks today in 3 hours >:( what the fuck is going on??? I was pulling teeth to get that
Blonde-Ambition
01-16-2014, 01:16 PM
what is going on with camming?! why is it sooo dead!?
Smurfette
01-16-2014, 01:58 PM
I'm not even bothering logging on to SM today. I'm 99% I can do way better with Cams and Adultwork!
edit: And I already have!! :)
Streamate. I am very disappointed in you. *shakes head disapprovingly*
Renton
01-16-2014, 02:14 PM
$10 in 2 hours here -_- I had dinner, chilled and now I'm trying again... fingers crossed ugh
bigbootyjudy1
01-16-2014, 02:30 PM
This weeks is super sorry.its so bad i took two days off and dreaded coming back on.Now i see why i didn't want to come back on. Deadville!!!!Trying to make as much as possible since i wont be on for a while ,due to my upcoming surgery. Ughhh. All the other sites suck balls also.Fuck this .I guess i'll stay on till a miracle happens.
IvyRose
01-16-2014, 04:08 PM
Keep strong girls! I where also truggling today, and in the end I had some pvts that made my day allright again!
Hope guys with $ will find you! They can come any minute, keep that in mind XXX
Fitandpretty
01-16-2014, 05:03 PM
Keep strong girls! I where also truggling today, and in the end I had some pvts that made my day allright again!
Hope guys with $ will find you! They can come any minute, keep that in mind XXX
I had a great day yesterday for once on a Wednesday. I had high hopes for today but all I got was "Ass BB or get Naked BB". Maybe tomorrow will be good since it will be Friday *crossing fingers and pulling out all the stops* lol
JaneBurgess
01-16-2014, 05:51 PM
All the glitches on SM are pissing me off. All this week it's been glitch after glitch after glitch. Fuck you CS for always trying to say its the performers. My computer and internet are both fast as fuck, it's your damn site. Fix it already!!!!!
Bubblegum1235
01-16-2014, 06:41 PM
I´m so sad! Sm is today slow as fuck for me, the best model on my niche is online, and I lost my best regular...he´s been with me almost since I started 3 months ago, he spends a lot every single day, and well, probably is how things are meant to be... I wont tell the whole story, but he finally threatened me with find me on facebook because he say he can do it. I´m not sure if I only feel bad about the money, but I liked to see him and chat with him...Camming so sucks days like this :(
LilyAnderson
01-16-2014, 07:12 PM
My gold show description is
(Hanging around/voyeur show. Sixteen videos for those that pledge and message me.)
Some dickfuck comes in and goes,
"YOU'RE WATCHING TV AND I PAID FOR THIS?"
Shut the fuck up you cheap, ignorant jerk. You paid to not read my description. That is clearly not my fault.
Procrasturbator
01-16-2014, 09:10 PM
^ Ughhh I feel ya... a while back I had this condescending daddy guy in exclusive for maybe 15 minutes. A month later he comes into my free chat, makes small chat, leaves, then comes back a few minutes later when I'm getting naked in a premium pvt with several people in it. If it was a new guy I would have stalled a little longer but since he'd spent money before and he'd greeted me back (which the peepers usually don't do) I went ahead and took my clothes off... he said "Mmmmm just wanted to pop in and see what you were up to ;) catch ya later" and bounced. 28 seconds. FUCK THAT FUCKING MOTHERFUCKER I am still so mad and if I ever see him in my room again I am banning him so fast. It's the entitlement that pisses me off. Oh sure, just pop into my show, take my attention away from the other guys and see me naked. It's on me. Because you own me, right?
Thymian
01-16-2014, 09:29 PM
I managed to ban one today, and felt an insane amount of happiness and self satisfaction. I almost hi fived myself. ;)
I have managed to ban two and when I checked my black list they were still allowed to post in chat. I had selected to also ban from messaging and that was the only option checked, so now when I get one I go to my black list to make sure they are really truly banned. Those accounts are like stink bugs in my chat and even though I am in classic anyone not logged in can see it. Bastards.
Procrasturbator
01-16-2014, 09:36 PM
even though I am in classic anyone not logged in can see it. Bastards.
Wait, people can see what other people are saying if they're not logged in? That's weird... I don't have a custie account and when I've creeped rooms in classic chat I couldn't see what anyone was saying or the number of people in the room, etc. Did it change recently?
AliceFun
01-16-2014, 11:11 PM
^^^ Yes they see the conversation when not logged in but watching as a guest IF member and/ or performer DO NOT type privately, means if it's an open chat. Performers can send private chat messages to members and members can go on Hidden status when typing to performers then the conversation becomes private, members have to use the little 'eye' icon on their chat window, that eye can be closed/ open.
annikah
01-16-2014, 11:26 PM
I am about to blow a fucking gasket! I had a NF caller the other day. He was a first time customer, and didn't send me a message before calling to discuss the show, nor did he buy my Skype ID. Whatever. Okay. Not how I like to do things, but I was just happy to get a call on my new listing, so I wasn't going to complain.
Right off the bat, he was talking about me moving in with him. Seriously, like right after I said hello, he went on and on about that shit, and then said that he was 30 something and still lived with his parents and that when I moved to California to be with him, he'd get me knocked up, and we could mooch off of them. Yada, yada, yada. Creepy, but whatever. I assumed it was a mix of fetishes, and because I like my shows to be as seamless as possible, and because I (wrongly?) assumed that anyone capable of finding me on NF (or dialing a telephone FFS) wouldn't be fucktarded enough to ever think that someone would take the offer seriously, I played along.
The call went on for about 12 minutes, and he hung up happy.
Three days later, right after I finish sending out free minutes to all of my recent customers, including him, he leaves me negative feedback on my brand new listing, making it ineligible to be featured! His feed back said "LIED TO ME AND SAID SHE WAS INTO ME. JUST WANTED EASY MONEY"
oh my god...
Oh My God!
OH MY MOTHER FUCKING GOD!!!
For serious!? You call a ppm fantasy listing and expect whatever girl you call to be absolutely smitten by your self-admitted pathetic mooching doucheary!? And in the first 5 seconds of the very first call, no less! Did I miss something? Well, I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was so incredibly desperate. Hang on a second while I pack my shit, drive across country, and camp out with you in mommy's basement.
And Jesus! I'm also sorry for being in it for the money! What was I thinking charging for a luxury service!? What a greedy bitch I am! Especially since its so easy! After all, how emotionally exhausting can it be to put up with beggers and assholes who are always looking to scam you? What kind of mental effort could it take to be johnny on the spot for whatever fantasy a customer has? How physically demanding can dancing around, humping, shaking your tits/ass and pounding your pussy several times a day actually be!?
Forget what I said in the "you know you're a cam girl when" thread about being able to manage my anger better since camming, because if that SOB was within reaching distance, I would rip out his toenails and gouge out his eyes with them, and then make him lick the eye/toe jam soup right the fuck off.
PrincessLavender
01-16-2014, 11:54 PM
Just made $12 in an hour.
I'm really kicking myself for being so lazy and never logging on during times when it's good/steady and I easily make $75+ an hour. You don't realize how sweet you have it until it's gone! :p
Countdown to panhandling... in 10... 9...
Ugh! Same here. Really regretting the times The I made $200 in 2 hrs then logged off. This $16 an hour average I'm getting right now is not gonna cut it.
MissAnthrope
01-17-2014, 12:49 AM
ANother 10 dollar day... even tried SM for the first time and even though I was placed 2nd on trans board STILL didn't really make anything. CB wasn't much better. Bah, It had BETTER turn around.
Vlodina
01-17-2014, 01:03 AM
I have managed to ban two and when I checked my black list they were still allowed to post in chat. I had selected to also ban from messaging and that was the only option checked, so now when I get one I go to my black list to make sure they are really truly banned. Those accounts are like stink bugs in my chat and even though I am in classic anyone not logged in can see it. Bastards.
I think that happens when you've brought up the pop up to ban them, but they leave your chat room before you can confirm. Then you have to go into your blocked list to finish them off. ;)
audrey_k
01-17-2014, 06:25 AM
I'm so fucking annoyed. I had a customer come in tonight he ended up tipping me $800... except he tipped me in funny money so not only did I get surcharged by the club, but they decided that because it was over 30% tip that they had to add fucking dances to charge me for... I had to tip on those as well, and because they knew I got such a big tip they were all expecting me to tip well.
I ended up doing well but I only ended up keeping 47% of what I made... 47%!!! WITH AN $800 TIP! UGH. I was so annoyed I could not even hide it, I just couldn't believe it worked out that way.
TheBrownFox
01-17-2014, 11:17 AM
Wait, people can see what other people are saying if they're not logged in? That's weird... I don't have a custie account and when I've creeped rooms in classic chat I couldn't see what anyone was saying or the number of people in the room, etc. Did it change recently?
When I used to log into my SM member account to visit a friend's room, a lot of the times when I had my eye open other members in the room still couldn't see what I'd posted. It was really frustrating because other members were trying to tell me hi (we all knew each other), and when I'd type hi back they couldn't see it. Only the model could see it. One of the screwy things about SM that drove me nuts.
TheBrownFox
01-17-2014, 11:43 AM
The MFC members who will just sit in your room, and then when they do speak it's to complain "I can't pm you, bb." Um, there's a reason for that...you're not on my friends list. MFC Mail me or put your oh-so-secretive comment in a tip note, if you want.
And then when you check your MFC Mail, it's just a message from them that starts out with "Mmmm."
AliceFun
01-17-2014, 11:50 AM
^^^ I was told by SM rep. before they introduced Gold Shows, when only the classic chat was available: "members need to focus on the model not talk to each other", while this is a good explanation i can still add: sometimes is just difficult to type privately to everyone cause if u type freely members dont know whom u address certain questions to or give answers, they get confused.
Also, not seeing each other texts in chat room makes room/ performer look 'not popular' therefore not worth it (for some); now having the party chat available too they get confused even more about why some rooms are full of people and some are 'dead'.
It's kinda bad chat system, it has more negative aspects than positive; in party chat instead u have it all open BUT jealous performers, studio bosses or simply trolls assume also u are going to perform gold shows so they come by to throw insults, spam & sabotage room/ performer just because they can, this is not nice & for this reason i work Classic chat.
I was thinking to work Party chat with the room topic as a disclaimer: "i dont do gold shows so dont bother to sabotage me" lol, not that i really care what they have to say but OTHERS care, sometimes people get into the 'sheep effect', follow each other's actions, not always beneficial for the performer.
Via Flaminia
01-17-2014, 12:03 PM
"I'll be right back." Um, first off, wtf do I care? I'm suspending reality and my chatroom for your possible return? Lol. Plus, what we all know-horseshit. The mouthy ones who announce everything..smh
I ignore these & take a sip of lemon water, but fuck...
TheBrownFox
01-17-2014, 12:20 PM
"I'll be right back." Um, first off, wtf do I care? I'm suspending reality and my chatroom for your possible return? Lol. Plus, what we all know-horseshit. The mouthy ones who announce everything..smh
I ignore these & take a sip of lemon water, but fuck...
LOL. It's funny to me when MFC members claim they'll "be right back" because they're buying tokens. I just smile and tell them "You don't have to leave the room in order to buy tokens. You can buy them while you're still in my public chat." But deep down I know they're most likely full of shit, and just said that so they can get away and move on to a different room...haha.